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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

on: October 16, 2017, 02:38:01 PM

Quote from: robbylove on October 10, 2017, 10:55:45 PM .... Yeah but they are 20 times greeeeener and we all love Wind Turbine Shadow Flicker and Noise I much prefer living in a valley with a coal powered plant and watching my family all die from lung diseases

Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 1337 [MANDATORY UPDATE] 167% APR| FORK ON THE 25TH OF NOVEMBER

on: February 17, 2017, 07:21:56 AM

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Economy / Exchanges / Re: C-CEX.com Trusted, Secure & Friendly Exchange Since 2013. 100+ Alts,USD,Low Fees

on: February 17, 2017, 07:12:40 AM

PIEcoin has a 400 million coin ICO on c-cex. The address with 400 millcion coins is staking. http://piecoin.thecryptochat.net/address/PBuRbnexWbe7pVtZnKcofR1EmmUJa2BxRA Is this a coincidence?

Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Core or Classic?

on: March 15, 2016, 04:06:33 AM

Classic vs Core. at some point, they may become different forks. A fork indicates where the database or record of all transactions no longer agree. So, any transactions before that fork are still agreed by both forks. Quote from: Ashdad on March 13, 2016, 08:27:34 PM ... I have started reading about coins being destroyed, and miners choosing the wrong fork? and losing all their money....So.... Does the wallet I choose represent a choice I have made? If I do nothing but wait and see, will that affect my bitcoin? ... If you have some BitCoin in an address, and there becomes a fork after, your transaction is still valid on both forks. But, the two forks are no longer compatible. So if you spend coins on one fork, they still exist on the other fork. lol But only one chain of that fork will become official. Core vs Classic represents a dilemma, when they fork, which one will be the official fork?? That is why value down etc. People are scared. But your coins will still be in your address.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison

on: March 11, 2016, 06:36:41 AM

Quote from: BADecker on March 08, 2016, 01:01:53 AM Quote from: anon_giraffe on March 08, 2016, 12:22:57 AM Quote from: BADecker on March 07, 2016, 03:26:05 PM Quote from: anon_giraffe on March 07, 2016, 09:25:29 AM Your vision of God is weak and small minded and therefore corrupt. If I was raised in your sect and could find no other truth in your cesspit of ignorance, I would become an atheist too. How silly of you. You want to go from weak understanding to complete blindness. Just because you are sick in the head, doesn't mean you have to commit suicide like this. Rather, learn more about God through the only things that teach about Him - nature and the Bible. There are some who are only exposed to a weak view of God that when compared to the glory of simple nature, will chose nature over the weak and corrupt. Their view of God would be of poison. Even if many apparent Theists accept that poison, the true path would be to reject that poison. If you worship a false idol and claim that as God. Then the correct choice is to worship no idea as God. The Bible is as corrupted by the many conflicting views as Christianity. God has no religion except himself. God is not the Bible and the Bible is not God. If you read the Bible, know that man is fallible. In addition to understanding God through nature, your whole post here is more or less why theists reject your self-god declaration, which is somewhat hidden in the wording of your post I quoted above. Self-god? What do you mean? You do not seem to be addressing my post. If one is to be exposed to two falsities, the lesser seeming falsity can be often accepted as truth through ignorance. Hence many Theists worship a false God out of ignorance, and many Atheists reject a false God out of ignorance. Although there being only one God, both Theists and Atheists can't but help worship minor aspects of the same true God. The corruption is present in claiming wholeness within the minor aspect.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison

on: March 08, 2016, 12:33:53 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on March 07, 2016, 03:16:21 PM Quote from: anon_giraffe on March 07, 2016, 09:09:22 AM It's an interesting metric, you are mis understanding it. As used it is an indicator of physical health, but we both agree it is not useful in this case as western atheists generally choose their own fertility rate rather than let nature take its course. A neutral 3rd party observer might have difficulty distinguishing between the voluntary adoption of an 'intellectual structure' whose adoption drove total fertility to zero and a spreadable physical ailment that did the same. Voluntarily choosing sub-replacement fertility is a rational choice when resources are insufficient to properly raise a additional child. It is also a rational choice if one foresees such a shortage in the future and acts preemptively with a discrete plan for ones descendants to return to at least replacement level fertility. Finally it is a rational choice perhaps a heroic one when an individual is a known carrier of severe genetic disease and chooses not to pass that to the next generation. Absent these conditions voluntarily choosing sub-replacement fertility is not rational as it is not synonymous with sustained existence. So you're claiming fertility rate is also a sign of psychological incompetence? Only within a limited framework. You seem to be basing the desired fertility to be based on survival. We are intellectual beings and survival is not be our raison d'etre. If you want to be an animal sure. We in the Western World live in a time of plenty, there is no threat to our sustained existence, only to our personal set of genes. One reason you might consider it a necessary in this time of plenty, is if you think your particular cult/tribe needs to outbreed another cult/tribe. (as was more important in the stories of the Old Testament)

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison

on: March 08, 2016, 12:22:57 AM

Quote from: BADecker on March 07, 2016, 03:26:05 PM Quote from: anon_giraffe on March 07, 2016, 09:25:29 AM Your vision of God is weak and small minded and therefore corrupt. If I was raised in your sect and could find no other truth in your cesspit of ignorance, I would become an atheist too. How silly of you. You want to go from weak understanding to complete blindness. Just because you are sick in the head, doesn't mean you have to commit suicide like this. Rather, learn more about God through the only things that teach about Him - nature and the Bible. There are some who are only exposed to a weak view of God that when compared to the glory of simple nature, will chose nature over the weak and corrupt. Their view of God would be of poison. Even if many apparent Theists accept that poison, the true path would be to reject that poison. If you worship a false idol and claim that as God. Then the correct choice is to worship no idea as God. The Bible is as corrupted by the many conflicting views as Christianity. God has no religion except himself. God is not the Bible and the Bible is not God. If you read the Bible, know that man is fallible.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison

on: March 07, 2016, 09:25:29 AM

Quote from: BADecker on March 06, 2016, 10:59:50 PM Quote from: BlueStackz on March 06, 2016, 09:25:25 AM Quote from: justdimin on March 04, 2016, 01:05:25 PM Atheism can send the wrong message across to people, especially those weaker in faith but brushed off and laughed at by every religious sect out there. It is not a religion, just a group of non believers. Yes you are right. People should realize that Atheism comes from a lack of knowledge and information and misinterpretation of their understanding of what is and what is not. But mostly, atheism comes from corrupt people, who know that God exists, but think that they can get away with going their own presumptuous way, and that they sill somehow get away from God. Silly atheists. Their doom is all wrapped up. It is theirs... if they do not change. Only a few years more, and they will die, only to face God in the resurrection. Even now God laughs at their pitiful attempts to disregard Him. I believe many Theists to have a corrupt view of God. The obvious answer to being exposed to such corruption is to declare it as folly and become an Atheist. Ignoring the obvious issue of a particular sect of Christian God vs all the other potential versions of God. It seems your view of God is corrupt. What is God such that God would laugh at an atheist? Your vision of God is weak and small minded and therefore corrupt. If I was raised in your sect and could find no other truth in your cesspit of ignorance, I would become an atheist too.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison

on: March 07, 2016, 09:09:22 AM

Quote from: Melech on March 07, 2016, 07:08:27 AM Quote from: CoinCube on March 07, 2016, 05:20:15 AM Quote from: Moloch on March 07, 2016, 04:17:43 AM Quote from: CoinCube on March 07, 2016, 02:49:45 AM Low Fertility (only one child) I think you confuse, "Low Fertility", with choosing to not have lots of children... I don't believe there is a scientific study showing Atheists produce lower sperm counts, or any such indicator of fertility Since when is having 1 child instead of 5 a bad thing? I don't even see how this is a negative trait If it were a race to have the most children... anyone with less than 20 children loses, right? This issue came up earlier Quote from: CoinCube on February 29, 2016, 04:26:17 AM Quote from: anon_giraffe on February 29, 2016, 02:26:00 AM But artificial manipulation of fertility through contraception or other practices would make it only useful if you managed to discount those practices. Just because an intelligent couple choose to have no children has no necessary meaning to their true "biological fitness"? Biological Fitness is an empiric not a moral measurement. There are two accepted empiric measures of biological fitness these are Absolute Fitness and Relative Fitness. Both of these are directly proportional to fertility unless there is a large differences in infant mortality between the groups. As all of the data comes from one country USA there should be no large differences in infant mortality. Now the case can certainly be made that Biological Fitness is an irrelevant metric. However, it is likely that some readers will feel this metric to be important and that makes the data relevant. As I mentioned in my response to anon_giraffe fertility rate like biological fitness is an empiric not a moral measurement and its relevance to this discussion can certainly be disputed. There are multiple definitions of fertility. The most relevant is the Fertility Rate. Deciding if sub-replacement fertility is a good or a bad thing is a deep topic and beyond the scope of the the arguments in the opening post. I am content to leave this decision up to the reader but have no objections to anyone who wishes to promote their views on the matter. Blah, blah FIRST, you have to show/prove that the rate of children Atheists have is a bad thing I could argue that fewer children is a good thing... If you have $100,000 inheritance, it goes to 1 person, instead of 5 people each getting $20k... fewer children = better I would also argue that parents who have 5+ children tend to be on welfare their entire lives and are a huge drain on the system, providing nothing, taking everything Humans are not horses used for breeding and you cannot possibly justify using a "fertility rate", even misnamed such as you are, against Atheists Your arguments against Atheists are super thin... they are tall, smart, athletic, etc... oh noes... better kill those poisonous assholes! This entire thread is nonsense, as most religious threads are It's an interesting metric, you are mis understanding it. As used it is an indicator of physical health, but we both agree it is not useful in this case as western atheists generally choose their own fertility rate rather than let nature take its course.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

on: March 07, 2016, 06:58:03 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 06, 2016, 05:44:28 AM Unfortunately for you, the argument that was made, by me, was precisely and accurately stated as to being referential to one data set. The blind arrogance in ignoring that claim and it's statistical verification was ignored by the Warmers resident here whom then I can only call Deniers on the basis of their actions. Frankly I don't know that 0.18F rise in 18 years rises to the point of statistical significance, but you are welcome to show that it does. Your several other disjointed arguments thrown out are unrelated to the actual claim made. Unless you would like to misrepresent the claim made and then proceed with a strawman argument? lol... Some people on this forum deny "the fact that there has been no warming in 19 years" , therefore "Warmers are Deniers"? Claiming "warmers are deniers" is not a logical conclusion. Perhaps "some warmers are deniers" is a more useful statement. I assume you accept the obvious truth of "all warming-deniers are deniers". I have some questions about your "precisely and accurately stated" argument that was based on one data set You claim a single data set as to be decisive proof? Why do you think such a single data set to be decisive enough to be unequivocally accepted as proof of non-warming? Now that particular data set has been shown to be incorrect and has been adjusted. Is your "precisely and accurately stated" argument still relevant? Whether or not "0.18F rise in 18 years rises to the point of statistical significance" is important is probably less relevant than the justification for your argument is no longer useful. No-one should claim global warming to be 100% predictable or linear. Meterologists often can't even predict tomorrow.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

on: March 06, 2016, 03:55:49 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 05, 2016, 01:53:48 PM When even mainstream scientists discuss "the pause," "the hiatus," the fact that there has been no warming in 19 years, and posters to this forum deny that very fact, and refuse to look at the raw satellite data behind it, whatever you want to call it, it's a problem. If it's a strong opinion, it's such by denying the facts. Hence, I cannot do other than to conclude Warmers are Deniers. This does not seem congruent with the observed facts. This of course suggests that reliance on one set of data may be problematic when compared with other data that does not support it. If satellite data and ground based data disagree, you cannot simply choose the one which supports your belief system. (see bottom link for new info regarding that particular satellite data) Also simply looking at temperature records alone (and not considering such things as sea level/ice mass/CO2 levels) is myopic. Any complex and large system is not going to behave in a totally predictable manner, nor constant. The mere idea of assuming that there should be a linear relationship between any two or three variables in such a system as the entire earth is absurd. rise in sea level http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/ "Global sea level rose about 17 centimeters (6.7 inches) in the last century. The rate in the last decade, however, is nearly double that of the last century." global temperature as "relative to 1951-1980 average temperatures." http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ "The 10 warmest years in the 134-year record all have occurred since 2000, with the exception of 1998. " Revamped satellite data shows no pause in global warming. http://phys.org/news/2016-03-revamped-satellite-global.html "The Remote Sensing System temperature data, promoted by many who reject mainstream climate science and especially most recently by Sen. Ted Cruz, now shows a slight warming of about 0.18 degrees Fahrenheit since 1998. Ground temperature measurements, which many scientists call more accurate, all show warming in the past 18 years." "The change resulted from an adjustment Mears made to fix a nagging discrepancy in the data from 15 satellites. The satellites are in a polar orbit, so they are supposed to go over the same place at about the same time as they circle from north to south pole. Some of the satellites drift a bit, which changes their afternoon and evening measurements ever so slightly. Some satellites had drift that made temperatures warmer, others cooler. Three satellites had thrusters and they stayed in the proper orbit so they provided guidance for adjustments."

Other / Politics & Society / Re: North Korea: Kim Jong-un orders nuclear weapons readied for use "at any time"

on: March 05, 2016, 01:39:25 PM

Do the Saudi's now also have nuclear weapons? "“We have nuclear bombs”: this is what was said on February 19 on Russia Today by the Saudi political analyst, Daham al-Anzi, de facto spokesman for Riyadh." http://www.globalresearch.ca/nuclear-red-alert-saudi-arabia-equipped-with-nuclear-bombs/5511402

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

on: March 05, 2016, 01:36:03 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on March 05, 2016, 01:32:36 PM Quote from: anon_giraffe on March 05, 2016, 01:24:53 PM Quote from: cryptasm on December 17, 2013, 09:39:51 PM Quote from: Wilikon on December 17, 2013, 09:24:26 PM So banning should re enforced for the non believers then. Get it. Should we ban all of those who not only do not believe in bitcoin or all of those creating altcoins on bitcointalk? No they shouldn't be banned, reddit should setup a tinfoil section for the anti-science brigade. It's not anti-science. It's alternative science offering other hypothesise for the same observations. Try to explain this to the believers of the Global warming Faith. Try to explain to this to any one with a strong opinion. It's not an attribute only shared by one side of any large argument.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Money and people

on: March 05, 2016, 01:33:41 PM

Another consideration is physical effort. Some hard manual jobs create major stress on bodies that can prevent long term dedication to that job and cause long term physical damage. Quote from: mrflibblehat on March 05, 2016, 12:00:44 AM Quote from: popcorn1 on March 04, 2016, 11:54:50 PM What would be the right way of dividing money in the world? give everybody the same amount a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it the more you work the more you get Give everybody 15k a year for free .Then the more you work the more you get rule included.. if your worth more than 3 million you don't get the 15k any more.. With the 15k poor people will pay there own rent then live of the rest if you have loads of children its your own fault you only got 15k .still go out and work tho and earn more.. and you don't get the 15k till your 21 years old Also free education and free health..my ideal world and it would work Yes but where would these "free" money come from? Guaranteed Minimum Income is a well known concept. The base idea is that all people have the ability to care for themselves no matter what employtment circumstances they're in. Having a relaxed confident core of workers theoretically creates a more unified and prosperous society. Any person can view themselves in regard to employment, and take whatever time is necessary to shape themselves to fit their employment views. However, there is a need for education such that a welfare state of dependancy is not created. Such GMI is not necessarily of benefit to a psychologically ill culture.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

on: March 05, 2016, 01:24:53 PM

Quote from: cryptasm on December 17, 2013, 09:39:51 PM Quote from: Wilikon on December 17, 2013, 09:24:26 PM So banning should re enforced for the non believers then. Get it. Should we ban all of those who not only do not believe in bitcoin or all of those creating altcoins on bitcointalk? No they shouldn't be banned, reddit should setup a tinfoil section for the anti-science brigade. It's not anti-science. It's alternative science offering other hypothesise for the same observations.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On

on: March 05, 2016, 01:22:16 PM

What's dangerous is a room full of people with no idea spouting opinion as factual usefulness. All the hate doesn't mean anything but hate. Whether or not pedophilia has any usefulness is a conversation that is not possible. Whether it is possible to be a respectable pedophile is another converstaion that must not be had. These conversations must never be had, pedophilia must be destroyed by my internet powers! readmyblog : myawesomeopinion-yetanotherignorantasshole.com/fuckyoupedofile-i-have-a-blog

Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proof that Proof of Stake is either extremely vulnerable or totally centralised

on: March 05, 2016, 12:42:14 PM

How many possible staking inputs do these addresses have? What is the min/max staking age of this coin? How long a chain will they need to create to be longer? Any such addresses need to have enough inputs to support not just a functional chain, also with enough aged inputs to generate a long string of blocks with obscenely fast transaction time, and also be "young" enough to ensure the chain necessary is not very long. Not forgetting many PoS coins already have centralised checkpointing hard coded, and that active coins have regular checkpoints added to the source - so such centralisation is already a given.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison

on: March 03, 2016, 03:36:36 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on February 29, 2016, 05:12:41 PM Quote from: anon_giraffe on February 29, 2016, 02:32:11 AM ... Suggesting that intellectual mindsets are necessary to create behaviours relies on our intellect being our ruling aspect. This does not seem true. The intellect is never a truly objective entity and will always interact with subjective reality. ... On reflection, it seems some arguments are based on the assumption that the intellect is the base cause for behaviour or morals. This seems a weak point and has no necessary validity. ... Let's examine base human behavior and morals when you strip away all "intellectual mindsets" In a base state each person would have a right, or license, to everything in the world. There is no centralized authority and no external recourse against violence, coercion, or defection. Thomas Hobbes envisioned this as, a "war of all against all" Quote from: Thomas Hobbs Leviathan 1651 In such condition, there is no place for industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving, and removing, such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. Now it is likely that we do have a 'built in' primitive moral code that allows us without any preconceptions to escape Hobbs baseline. This code is one of tribalism. One only has to look at how non-intellectual life exists to see the wrongness of an apparent "war of all against all". There are myriad examples of cross-species interactions and non-parisitical behaviours, also inter-species interactions which are benevolent. I also say you cannot escape the nature of mankind as being intellectual. Any "tribalism" is an intellectual construct, that any society which may exists as tribal, does so intellectually. Before Newton "discovered" gravity, no-one noticed it. Before the 4 minute mile was broken, no-one could do it. But once these realisations became public knowledge it was not possible to undo these. Your idea of tribalism should be expanded to acknowledge major social/cultural advances that have occurred. But I suggest it is impossible to do anything but hypothesise an unknowable base level - possibly useful for amusement but of no real use as it's too abstract to become useful. What Hobbs describes is a war of survival. Obviously when there is lack there will be competition. This does not require a base level of survival war as the root of man's behaviour.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison

on: March 03, 2016, 03:27:47 AM

Is it possible to have a discussion about atheism or religion without it denigrating into the same same arguments rehashed? Is it possible that there are actually intelligent people left alive who can actually accept the notion of free speech without needing to smash someone's ignorant head in? If any of these arguments presented were actually useful then there would be no need for ignorant behaviours.

Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists

on: February 29, 2016, 03:49:54 AM

Any proof of existence of anything relies on prior assumptions, the seeming least of all is that we exist such that we can observe. There is no definitive proof of anything that is not reliant on our subjective reality. Scientific objectivity relies on this too, it cannot exist without our subjective acceptance. Any claims that reality exists independent of us is unprovable.

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