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the shares there devalue over time, so the shares i mined the day before, if you solve a block while i'm offline, will not be worth as much as if i'd done the same amount of work in the block but had been on when it'd finished as you devalue the shares over time.
But the end of a round is indeterminate, so, if you leave 9 times, the on average: 3 times will be at the beginning (worth not much), 3 will be in the middle (worth a little), 3 will be at the end (worth a lot. Enough to make up for the other times where you were devalued). It averages out over time. but each time i leave over 9 times with bitcoinpool all 9 times i will get the same amount no matter the average of when i leave, the only thing that will change it is how many shares i have entered vs the total number, and the only way to stop that is to not leave. Where you need to then factor into such an evaluation what time periods in a round you would call beginning, middle, and end and shares entered vs total shares vs payout comparisons which i really don't want to get into as i'm not good at that kind of thing, all i can quite happily say is with this pool my X shares into a round with a total of Y shares always gives me X payment using the same equation no matter when the shares are entered. If anyone wants to work out the maths to back me up or disprove me feel free to do so |
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Excuse me, but this is not correct. You're also 'penalized' (well, I don't think it is penalty, but call it for now) when you're connecting in share-based pool in middle of the round; your round reward will be always significantly lower in those rounds. Did you realized that after connecting in the middle of score-based pool, your round reward is going up (to expected value as for all-time mining) very fast?
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I agree slush, it's not a penalty, if i connect in the middle of the round i've not mined for the first x% of the shares, and so i don't recieve any payment for that, i am happy with that and would expect it, i used you'rs as an example as it's the only other pool i really looked into much and the shares there devalue over time, so the shares i mined the day before, if you solve a block while i'm offline, will not be worth as much as if i'd done the same amount of work in the block but had been on when it'd finished as you devalue the shares over time. Im not saying one pool is better than the other, i'm just saying in my position and by my own opinon, i'm happier working this pool than i would be yours. That said i have a low efficency even with the polcbm-mod so will have to look into getting that improved else i won't be in this pool much longer anyway.
But now, to work!
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just restarted my miner and working away again, and just wanted to say something on my opinion of people jumping off the mining pool for another. i will admit i stop mining with you from time to time, to turn my pc off, i don't own a dedicated mining rig, what i use is my everyday gaming rig that i just so happen to mine on. This sits right next to my bed and has several fans running on it meaning there are nights that i can't sleep due to the constant noise and so it all goes off. While i realise you want to make sure people are mining for the whole length of time, and i have discussed with you before my very strange and ongoing efficiency problems, i joined this pool as the payout was based on what work i'd done in the pool, whether i'd had to turn my rig off or had it running the entire time instead of one like slush' where my down time would have me penalised. So while i'd like to see people staying with you're pool the entire time and i agree with you're points on the mathematical 'proofs' being mentioned in here, i'd rather not be punished for having my pc off one night and not getting any coins from a block because of it
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yeah, i sure seem to have started at an opportune time, 8 wins since yesterday.......
That's crazier than carltons dancing!
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I don't plan to bob, so long as i can get these issues i'm having worked out.
And to be fair the only reason i joined so late is becuase i'd just heard of it and thought i'd try contributing right away
For those still confused as i am about the issues i've been having i saw an increace in my efficiency but not by much, any further ideas and suggestions are always welcome
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link's not working geebus, will try again in the morning, need sleep
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done as you've suggested geebus, and using the same setup, and still the same efficiency.... clearly something doesn't like me.......
Any other suggestions welcomed, running as
C:/poclbm-mod-03.21.2011/binaries-win32/poclbm-mod.exe --user=Drazar --pass=Hidden -o bitcoinpool.com -p 8334 -d0 --verbose -v -w128 -f 120
....... not sure where the -f 120 comes from, may try removing it if things don't improve....
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Really new to bitcoins in general and no knowledge or programming, decided to join you're pool and downloaded Kiv's version so as to not deal with it but been having very low efficency ratio's, 9% atm and wondering if there's any suggestions on how to increase it, have tried adding the
-workrefershms=20000 and -d for the extra flags but both stopped it from working, currently running with -v and -w128 on my geforce 9600gt at about 9-10 Mhash/s but wondering if anyone has any suggestions for increacing my efficency
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