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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: secondstrade.com - scam [proof] on: March 09, 2016, 11:44:18 AM
I've alread started a thread about them but it seems his getting away with his scam BECAUSE MOST members here are very stupid ... No negative trust yet to that bastard  Angry

Here is a proof that secondstrade is rigged and its a scam please becarefull :


I used my site to send two bets at the same time automatically every 1/2 Seconds using the blockchain api and check the results :


Proof :



All my bets included in the SAME RECIEVING TIME (Check the seconds) while i didn't send them at the same time , (there was a 1/2 Seconds delay between evey bet).


If you are the secondstrade owner i ask you to refund my money or i will make sure to do something about this.

If this is a bug please fix it and refund my money.

Btc :1KtAUfVqKy8Te3ZjQ5tcEQp5v4F3cT7NXH  - Lost more than 1 btc in total.


EDIT:HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF:



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  Angry

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com even if there was a 2/3 seconds between every bet !!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money.

EDIT: The owner replied with a mind blowing answer that proves his game is rigged :



HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF:



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  Angry

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com!!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money, please help us admin or anyone strong here.

below is the  result of our site for  your transaction. there is no any problem.
you said delay is proof of scam. but we have published  about that on  Refund Policy of http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

Refund Policy
2. A delay Bet due to the delay of a bitcoin network is not a part of the refund. <---- Note: he is talking about the network Delay LOL! The money already recieved in his site as you can see in the pics above  Tongue


we also said "there is a batch program that handles incoming orders at a same time every seconds" on  the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

if you send  two orders each 0.5 seconds, it could deal with the same second.

which  is not a scam.  we can not change the any  result with the  delay.
and we have published for it




http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8





As you can see above he said clearly : "if you send  two orders each ---->0.5 seconds<----, it could deal with the same second. "

AND my transaction as you can see in the image above was 2/3 seconds delay (Check the txs above) but it was recieved at the same second!!, NOW IF THIS IS NOT A PROOF THAT SECONDSTRADE.COM IS SCAMMING PEOPLE THAN I DONT KNOW HOW TO PROVE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!!


Note: The owner is totaly ignoring me and gone offline with no explanation or refund : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.1140
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Ask for your refund (Proof inside) on: January 12, 2016, 01:10:40 AM
AN OTHER PROOF , STILL NO NEGATIVE TRUST YET , REALLY BAD PLZ ANYONE HELP:


HI..

i noticed that there's an outrage player accusing you admin of something that negatively affects trust.
but instead of examining on to his complain, I decided to look upon my files containing copies of my transactions that I am also secondstrade 5secondsdown gambler who's going under a program on how to have control of my gambling after losing about 27 or more bitcoins here. responsible gambling was it.

my bitcoin wallet address used on betting s seconds down was 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE,
what i have noticed was theres some txid's, 7 of them in particular that were unusual. first of all this where received by seconds trade and registered to be with in his position after having 7 bets at the same time exactly.
as a matter of fact they have the same Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117f.
and if that were the case they should have the same Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc61674. at first four transaction they have identical results of course they were accepted at exact same time, then what happen after that was tragic. 3 consecutive lose bets came up but they even have the exact start time and start seed convert SHA256 of those first four that where winning bets.
syatem give different end seed convert sha 256 that after i noticed it now makes me so disappointed,

i lose all money on my gambling, it dosent matter now, what matters were i would like a full payout of the transactions that were obviously change resulting to a disaster damaging my bet and start losing it all.

here are the transaction id follows by secondstrade website's gave me as to verify bets were made.

win (4 bets)
cd1e79cce21a481a77d4bd3374a29803c05698275752a70c2b149d20355fbd50
59b042e01cc1d2731a31ff83e26a346a2f8ed61f1fc389ef90554b3b8cf81f05
139ea51372cd85168edac4663b4ea7f7319d4212d12f8c6021a005fb1cf555ab
d75c7ce0f62b36c87f5e6909a47dada605e1a93deed714b53ad236d57376eac0

lose ( 3 bets)
42d2b5160270dce1d3612af0d17d0741495bd4d7dc1f55f5eff60756f45f1bd0
59dc2ebd494123c80d77d18d85517b80212b7c17a7023ccfd0d7a77ac4d2ea32
6d88d873ee116c06a0528afcdfbe830cb0f7c866f10dc39be939c57e5d60db3b

3 lose bets that i would like to have full payout admin of secondstrade with 0.5 bitcoin each
0.5 x 3 x 1.8 = 2.7 bitcoins of payout you should send back to my wallet as requested.

-------------------------WIN
Betting Transaction id : cd1e79cce21a481a77d4bd3374a29803c05698275752a70c2b149d20355fbd50
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.49927


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc616745dc032f2c41d35fa664d42b9bcee708a12


Betting Transaction id : 59b042e01cc1d2731a31ff83e26a346a2f8ed61f1fc389ef90554b3b8cf81f05
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc616745dc032f2c41d35fa664d42b9bcee708a12


Betting Transaction id : 139ea51372cd85168edac4663b4ea7f7319d4212d12f8c6021a005fb1cf555ab
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc616745dc032f2c41d35fa664d42b9bcee708a12


Betting Transaction id : d75c7ce0f62b36c87f5e6909a47dada605e1a93deed714b53ad236d57376eac0
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 0
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 0dc3a9f403294f99cfdbe4ebc616745dc032f2c41d35fa664d42b9bcee708a12

----------------------------------------------LOST
Betting Transaction id : 42d2b5160270dce1d3612af0d17d0741495bd4d7dc1f55f5eff60756f45f1bd0
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 9
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:36:595+225.41+7+1.12629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 932b6b6233b7c8b5ccc29df61432dffade0d579b8eac1422f5666a6a7915a221


Betting Transaction id : 59dc2ebd494123c80d77d18d85517b80212b7c17a7023ccfd0d7a77ac4d2ea32
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 9
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:37:622+225.41+0+1.12632
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 932b6b6233b7c8b5ccc29df61432dffade0d579b8eac1422f5666a6a7915a221


Betting Transaction id : 6d88d873ee116c06a0528afcdfbe830cb0f7c866f10dc39be939c57e5d60db3b
Betting address : 15UExtKxSJmNxxFDZvB6CiYcqVHqAK1MLE
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.5


Betting price : 2
Betting expire price : 9
Betting start seed : 12:33:31:373+225.41+5+1.12609
Betting start seed convert SHA256: ace26f313f3ff6a8097cc31cd4117fe1eeec86c2e78fd17e59074a06d1d2c258
Betting expire seed : 12:33:37:622+225.41+0+1.12632
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 932b6b6233b7c8b5ccc29df61432dffade0d579b8eac1422f5666a6a7915a221


I repeat payout request of 2.7 bitcoins seriously requested as soon as posible admin.
this will proves that you really are fair and can always be trusted if you will soon make the pay out for all i ask

remember that I lose a lot of money but  thats my destiny so im just claiming what was rightfully mine.

will you please reply to me here,

god bless you.




AN OTHER PROOF:



take a closer look on txids and seed genereted by sha 256, did you see it below what went wrong?
of course admin will check this, then after checking he will refund.

admin pls refund me ( 0.4 btc - 0.20974302) amount requested---0.19025698btc

----- should be a ''win'' the true results on start is 3, end 3, i bet 5sec down, so?
Betting Transaction id : d2d4080a76667d808e8889ded57035966096ca9fad2546c1d4afcef0f047ff86
Betting address : 192XS8zybWUgefRMs1jPKF4iQrfqUn41iS
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.4

Betting price : 0
Betting expire price : 3
Betting start seed : 13:44:30:767+268.33+0+1.10642
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 3d9724348a316abc50232d5e010691c066bdd0aa3a04805e6aea8809cdfc91c4
Betting expire seed : 13:44:36:931+268.33+2+1.10629
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 338e0e847a38d7da15cc0f829f41aaca5788678dadcd75f294af430cae5e7f7b

----lose on this admin you recognize it as a win
Betting Transaction id : 1a6d148c8c6bb65abb7275a743d707c000a93ccf3ba76b8afff50a41d57338f5
Betting address : 192XS8zybWUgefRMs1jPKF4iQrfqUn41iS
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.20974302

Betting price : 8
Betting expire price : 7
Betting start seed : 11:55:33:513+269.4+1+1.10425
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 1178facd3dfcae099a0ffc216e25eb15c4b40ecec90fb73ecf5dc931e65be4bd
Betting expire seed : 11:55:39:656+269.4+1+1.10425
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: a75cba8ad24e6ce93fed6ab0470892dc9f2868a5f628da2a863c21aecd632d44


final bitcoin refund request ---------- 0.19025698btc
kindly admin... waiting for answer
3  Other / Off-topic / moved on: January 11, 2016, 10:00:22 AM
yesterday i received i bank transfer from ANZ bank than after one day my account got frozen, what do i have to do ? i lost my money now Embarrassed
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Ask for your refund (Proof inside) on: January 11, 2016, 08:43:26 AM
omg, please you're claiming that they stole from you is 1BTC but you're only providing a tx hash that only contains .002BTC bets.  Roll Eyes
why won't you provide all the details, all of the tx that amounts to 1BTC.
your proof is weak thats why nobody gives a fuck about your tantrum.


The way you talk means you're mentally sick anyways the Txs above and this thread is to pove that secondstrade.com is rigged after he admit and want to start refunding i will post all my transactions here.

I hope after creating this thread you take your time to send secondstrade a short message to let him know that you opened a thread against him to give him a chance to air his side of his story. I sen't him a PM and a link to this thread so he can answer.


I did instantly after i started this thread but he have no respect to this forum and also he is busy making BIG MONEY SINCE 2014 WITH NO RED TRUST UNTIL NOW.
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 11, 2016, 08:24:06 AM
@scondstradescammers please  stop do this . I explained  it.  What you said is not proof.  We  have always refunded , if we have problem.  But  this is not the case.


THE GAME IS RIGGED SEE:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1320587.0

TO the OP, I will not stop until i get my money back.  Angry  You scammed me more than 1 BTC in total.
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 10, 2016, 11:56:08 AM
What are you talking about ?? The problem is not the delay cant you see the pic ? the problem is that secondstrade.com editing the recieving time, Look at the pic:



I've sent two payments from my server with a 1 second delay AND it was recieved correctly THAN i've sent two payments again but this time with a higher delay 2/3 seconds , the results were mind blowing BOTH bets recieved at the same second witch means Secondstrade is editing and faking the recieving time , READ AGAIN BEFORE YOU TALK PLZ.



SECONDSTRADE.COM IS A SCAM - DO NOT PLAY THERE UNTIL THIS Scam Accusation GET SOLVED :


SCAM ACCUSATION THREAD : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1320587.0



AGAIN DO NOT PLAY AT SECONDSTRADE YOU WILL GET SCAMMED, YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD.

I read your post in the other thread but I don't think its the sites fault that your bets were registered with a slight delay. I do mostly bets with the currencies and sometimes it registers in 1 second after I hit send on my bitcoin program and sometimes it takes 5 seconds, sometimes even 30 seconds. Its network delays and there is nothing you can do about it.

One way to fix this would be to make the site have a user portal so you can keep your finds in a balance and make bets instantely without delays.
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 10, 2016, 09:38:11 AM
SECONDSTRADE.COM IS A SCAM - DO NOT PLAY THERE UNTIL THIS Scam Accusation GET SOLVED :


SCAM ACCUSATION THREAD : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1320587.0



AGAIN DO NOT PLAY AT SECONDSTRADE YOU WILL GET SCAMMED, YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Ask for your refund (Proof inside) on: January 10, 2016, 09:30:23 AM
I see you people are giving negative trust only to other members so you can feel powerfull on them anyways i did all i had to do ive exposed secondstrade.com , I'm done.

Well they said you were using double spend transactions. That explains why you need to create a newbie account to post this accusation..


Members will laugh at your stupidty as soon as they see your reply, Dont you know that anyone can see if there is a double spend in the blockchain using the TXs hash above ? well i think this is one or your ALT accounts ? or a sig money member ?  anyways just to lets you know secondstrade.com doesn't accepte double spend and pays only after 1 confirmation Kiss




Edit: Also You cant even read a fucking quote, He replied to amaclin and not me Wow i see why he keeps scamming really stupid members  Angry   i'm done!
F***k Where is VOD.


please stop do this @scondstradescammers
we have don't  any scam since our site launched.

if you give us reasonable proof,  we will refund . but what you said will not be proof.
thank you.

My win bet was not payed even tx got confirmations
bet: https://blockchain.info/tx/3dffd0a4da4e5555fe5416ca8e44cc1a699af978b7d568c506f3a636104206a4

secondstrade page no longer available
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=3dffd0a4da4e5555fe5416ca8e44cc1a699af978b7d568c506f3a636104206a4

google cache

we will check about that.  it will take some time for investing about that.
please wait some hours.  if there was any problem,we will pay you. thank you.

We ended checking your transaction.  At the time, you used double spending so many trading and you steal our money.
So, The  transaction will not be paid.

9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Ask for your refund (Proof inside) on: January 10, 2016, 06:54:26 AM
I see you people are giving negative trust only to other members so you can feel powerfull on them anyways i did all i had to do ive exposed secondstrade.com , I'm done.
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 10, 2016, 06:33:37 AM
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT Huh??   YOU're GIVING AN ANSWER THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY PROVES, THERE IS NO NETWORK DELAY AND THERE IS NO 0.5 SECONDS DELAY WTF!!!!!  HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN THE IMAGE PROOF?Huh THIS GUY IS A CRAZY SCAMMER , AGAIN REFUND MY MONEY Angry


As you can see above he said clearly : "if you send  two orders each ---->0.5 seconds<----, it could deal with the same second. "

AND my transaction as you can see in the image above was 2/3 seconds delay but it was recieved at the same second WOW!!, NOW IF THIS IS NOT A PROOF THAT SECONDSTRADE.COM IS SCAMMING PEOPLE THAN I DONT KNOW HOW TO PROVE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!!


HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF:



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  Angry

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com!!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money, please help us admin or anyone strong here.

below is the  result of our site for  your transaction. there is no any problem.
you said delay is proof of scam. but we have published  about that on  Refund Policy of http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

Refund Policy
2. A delay Bet due to the delay of a bitcoin network is not a part of the refund.


we also said "there is a batch program that handles incoming orders at a same time every seconds" on  the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

if you send  two orders each 0.5 seconds, it could deal with the same second.

which  is not a scam.  we can not change the any  result with the  delay.
and we have published for it




http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8



11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Do NOt Play There!!!!!!! (Proof inside) on: January 09, 2016, 04:19:39 PM
I wonder how much money he scammed ..., waiting for refunds ... Cry .
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 09, 2016, 04:13:24 PM
HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF:



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  Angry

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com!!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money, please help us admin or anyone strong here.
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 09, 2016, 03:13:04 PM
THAT's AN OTHER PROOF BELOW, THE GAME IS TOTALY RIGGED I WONDER WHY HE HAVE NO NEGATIVE TRUST YET ?? ANYWAYS I WILL REPORT HIM EVERYWHERE INCLUDING AFT INTERNET POLICE W'LL SEE   Angry


hi? everyone?

there is a really interesting article on secondstrade.com.
i am very thank you  about this article.
this all is because  our client  have loved  our site.

this article is  below.

http://bitreview.com/binary-options/seconds-trade



thank you.
as i read about aboves link, i decided to post my transaction that i noticed to have an error but this has different case than those who were answerd by you and what was this txid will even surprise you secondstrade admin.

expire price was change and at first glance you cant see an error but when you calculate it with sha 256 generator, the real expire price will be revealed right?

Betting Transaction id : 1b8c293928d5ebfc03867ac3c5483d876b045cff0e6ee046723abd99b0d23891
Betting address : 1JLczkK6fTYiN7zjUHp5NhjnnvnYFQ6T6k
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.3

Betting price : 5
Betting expire price : 8

Betting start seed : 12:33:1+225.6+0+1.13248
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 57887aae1fd30a7611d28c8ead9324f39c375e7c4a96554a1adbba1ae2073741
Betting expire seed : 12:33:6+225.58+6+1.13226 ( da588ef3e046d998b8837271925e2b6abb4173601feff2079fbbaa8a92945f78 )
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 89499887d5cae76f7f16b9b80a82b8081cc748a6b852fb0b75cb4bac68f799c6
Result : LOSE
Sorry buddy Sad


start price was 5 and ending seed would be 5 too as generated not 8. making this bet a winner..


i have to request refund at this one admin of secondstrade.com




we refund you  about this.

txid is https://blockchain.info/tx/f69a93e20e98b8a1650a63b6bbb7cc6d7864ff3ab8dbec7933cac3877e6971ba
sorry for your inconvenience.


14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Do NOt Play There!!!!!!! (Proof inside) on: January 09, 2016, 02:51:01 PM
Can you give more details about this if you are telling the truth the blockchain transaction can you give us to prove that you are betting in that site?



Sure check all bets here (First wallet): https://blockchain.info/address/1C5yK8Y5fZukmUqZEcz7QivHtkx6EsKa5u

(Second wallet): https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1AsBr17GSZ2vNy6gABi8NVfDnbCm7825BK


I hope a green trust member will give him a negative trust until he solve this.


Thank you.



Edit: THAT's AN OTHER PROOF BELOW, THE GAME IS TOTALY RIGGED I WONDER WHY HE HAVE NO NEGATIVE TRUST YET ?? ANYWAYS I WILL REPORT HIM EVERYWHERE INCLUDING THE INTERNET POLICE W'LL SEE   Angry


hi? everyone?

there is a really interesting article on secondstrade.com.
i am very thank you  about this article.
this all is because  our client  have loved  our site.

this article is  below.

http://bitreview.com/binary-options/seconds-trade



thank you.
as i read about aboves link, i decided to post my transaction that i noticed to have an error but this has different case than those who were answerd by you and what was this txid will even surprise you secondstrade admin.

expire price was change and at first glance you cant see an error but when you calculate it with sha 256 generator, the real expire price will be revealed right?

Betting Transaction id : 1b8c293928d5ebfc03867ac3c5483d876b045cff0e6ee046723abd99b0d23891
Betting address : 1JLczkK6fTYiN7zjUHp5NhjnnvnYFQ6T6k
Betting asset : SECONDS5 DOWN
Betting BTC : 0.3

Betting price : 5
Betting expire price : 8

Betting start seed : 12:33:1+225.6+0+1.13248
Betting start seed convert SHA256: 57887aae1fd30a7611d28c8ead9324f39c375e7c4a96554a1adbba1ae2073741
Betting expire seed : 12:33:6+225.58+6+1.13226 ( da588ef3e046d998b8837271925e2b6abb4173601feff2079fbbaa8a92945f78 )
Betting expire seed convert SHA256: 89499887d5cae76f7f16b9b80a82b8081cc748a6b852fb0b75cb4bac68f799c6
Result : LOSE
Sorry buddy Sad


start price was 5 and ending seed would be 5 too as generated not 8. making this bet a winner..


i have to request refund at this one admin of secondstrade.com




we refund you  about this.

txid is https://blockchain.info/tx/f69a93e20e98b8a1650a63b6bbb7cc6d7864ff3ab8dbec7933cac3877e6971ba
sorry for your inconvenience.


15  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 09, 2016, 02:39:51 PM
please stop do this @scondstradescammers
we have don't  any scam since our site launched.

if you give us reasonable proof,  we will refund . but what you said will not be proof.
thank you.





YOU SCAMMED ME THE PROOF ALREADY POSTED ABOVE SEE THE PIC.


I SENT MY BETS in different TIME AND THEY WERE RECIEVED AT THE SAME TIME WTF!?? WHILE I DIDN'T SEND THEM AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WAS 1/2 SECONDS DELAY BETWEEN EVERY BET .


AGAIN REFUND ME , YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD.
   Angry








16  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 09, 2016, 02:28:10 PM
Anybody knows what happens if a payment is sent without a miners reward? Does it still count as a valid trade or is it delayed until confirmed?

it is going to bet  at the 0 confirmation, but  if you win  at the bet, the payout will be paid after  the 1 confirmation.
thank you.


SCAMMER! WOW I CANT BELIEVE THIS GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK, INFACT GIVE ALL MONEY YOU SCAMMED MOTHERFUCKER I WILL CALL POLICE ON YOU PEACE OF SHIT YOU WILL SEEE  Angry
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Do NOt Play There!!!!!!! (Proof inside) on: January 09, 2016, 02:00:06 PM
I've contacted him and all he said is this (Like every other scamming sites):

"I dont know what you are saying. We have always  been honest about every thing. When you lost, we became scam??"


maybe the owner was away on vacation. try to contact support bro

this owner : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=381676



AGAIN HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF:

I used my server again to send two bets at the same time in every 1 second (The first bet : 0.002 BTC  Secondstrade SEC DOWN  and the second bet Secndstrade Sec+1 UP) And the results were mind blowing :


all my bets got included in different time!!! even if i used the same sending time as the first one .

 

18  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 09, 2016, 01:39:40 PM
LOOK YOU ARE A SCAMMER AGAIN HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF:

I used my server to send two bets at the same time in every 1 second (The first bet : 0.002 BTC  Secondstrade SEC DOWN  and the second bet Secndstrade Sec+1 UP) And the results were mind blowing :


all my bets got included in different time!!! even if i used the same sending time as the first one .

 
AGAIN SECONDSTRADE SEND MY MONEY BACK, YOU TOOK LOTS OF MONEY FROM PEOPLE AND ITS TIME TO STOP, I WILL POST AND RECORD MORE AND MORE PROVES JUST TO MAKE SURE YOUR SITE WILL BE CLOSED , I KNOW YOU ARE PAYING MEMBERS HERE THATS WHY SOME ARE SUPPORTING YOU BUT I PROMISE I'LL DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS IF YOU DONT REFUND MY MONEY.




Here is a proof that secondstrade is rigged and its a scam please becarefull :


I used my site to send two bets at the same time every 1/2 Seconds using the blockchain api and check the results :






All my bets have been included in the SAME RECIEVING TIME (Check the seconds) while i didn't send them at the same time , (there was a 1/2 Seconds delay between evey bet).


If you are the secondstrade owner i ask you to refund my money or i will make sure to do something about this.

If this is a bug please fix it and refund my money.

Btc :1KtAUfVqKy8Te3ZjQ5tcEQp5v4F3cT7NXH

I dont know what you are saying. We have always  been honest about every thing. When you lost, we became scam??
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: January 09, 2016, 12:32:55 PM
Here is a proof that secondstrade is rigged and its a scam please becarefull :


I used my site to send two bets at the same time every 1/2 Seconds using the blockchain api and check the results :






All my bets have been included in the SAME RECIEVING TIME (Check the seconds) while i didn't send them at the same time , (there was a 1/2 Seconds delay between evey bet).


If you are the secondstrade owner i ask you to refund my money or i will make sure to do something about this.

If this is a bug please fix it and refund my money.

Btc :1KtAUfVqKy8Te3ZjQ5tcEQp5v4F3cT7NXH
20  Economy / Scam Accusations / Secondstrade.com is a SCAM - Ask for your refund (Proof inside) on: January 09, 2016, 12:25:45 PM

Here is a proof that secondstrade is rigged and its a scam please becarefull :


I used my site to send two bets at the same time automatically every 1/2 Seconds using the blockchain api and check the results :


Proof :



All my bets included in the SAME RECIEVING TIME (Check the seconds) while i didn't send them at the same time , (there was a 1/2 Seconds delay between evey bet).


If you are the secondstrade owner i ask you to refund my money or i will make sure to do something about this.

If this is a bug please fix it and refund my money.

Btc :1KtAUfVqKy8Te3ZjQ5tcEQp5v4F3cT7NXH  - Lost more than 1 btc in total.


EDIT:HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF:



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  Angry

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com even if there was a 2/3 seconds between every bet !!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money.

EDIT: The owner replied with a mind blowing answer that proves his game is rigged :



HERE IS AN OTHER PROOF THAT THE GAME IS RIGGED :


PROOF:



You are in big troubles SCAMMER.  Angry

Transaction proves (The 1 second delay recieved correctly in secondstrade.com):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2

Transaction proves (The 2/3 seconds delay that proves secondstrade.com is rigged - Both Recieved at the same second in Secondstrade.com!!!):

TX 1: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
TX 2: https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8

Again this is a call to all members that they care about the safety of bitcointalk's members to give Secondstrade.com a negative trust until he refund all the scammed money, please help us admin or anyone strong here.

below is the  result of our site for  your transaction. there is no any problem.
you said delay is proof of scam. but we have published  about that on  Refund Policy of http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

Refund Policy
2. A delay Bet due to the delay of a bitcoin network is not a part of the refund. <---- Note: he is talking about the network Delay LOL! The money already recieved in his site as you can see in the pics above  Tongue


we also said "there is a batch program that handles incoming orders at a same time every seconds" on  the http://secondstrade.com/notice.html

if you send  two orders each 0.5 seconds, it could deal with the same second.

which  is not a scam.  we can not change the any  result with the  delay.
and we have published for it




http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=ca638e5bfae469b34c58cb1207c5a76188964c9e95f7feb31d11f984758d26c8
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=bef5130663e790ae8b28b7f3433eb39a2da1d90b91981738a5a4ee7ca2094bb2
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=4e0de8c25e2bf380d705b5f78768027b950bfd00c125b3c872acc89dd0a8b279
http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=8909483360fed6f13b7c890ac24657d97ac998c55de1ca9337b4542b6f721eb8





As you can see above he said clearly : "if you send  two orders each ---->0.5 seconds<----, it could deal with the same second. "

AND my transaction as you can see in the image above was 2/3 seconds delay (Check the txs above) but it was recieved at the same second!!, NOW IF THIS IS NOT A PROOF THAT SECONDSTRADE.COM IS SCAMMING PEOPLE THAN I DONT KNOW HOW TO PROVE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!!


Note: The owner is totaly ignoring me and gone offline with no explanation or refund : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.1140
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