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Now the ICO is over, can you show us the BTC address with the BTC you collected during the ICO?
Each transaction has a separate BTC address. There was a video not too long ago showing the balance of all the transactions in their Coinbase account. |
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Congrats to everyone who was able to get into the ICO. Also great job to Max and Oliver. I'm excited to see where everything goes from here. In the grand scheme of things April 11th is just around the corner but it's going to feel like an eternity waiting  |
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I was gone most of the day and come back to all kinds of crazy stuff. Where did all the people come from and most of all how the hell are we at 13k btc  |
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We asked for decentralization, so this is what we get. Welcome to the wild west. buckle up and enjoy the ride |
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Someone just invested a CRAPLOAD. My 37,000 LISK is now down to 32,000 in a matter of seconds |
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That's not a very useful comparison for an ICO speculator. Interesting number is how much you would have made in first month of trading. If it's not significant you're better off waiting for trading to start.
*snort* I call this bullshit as some of the coins were still mined therefore market cap increased over time
*double snort* |
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Here you go. compare. First number is total during ICO, second number is current market cap in btc, and their % increase/decrease, 4th number is if you invested 1 btc and are still holding today how many btc you'd have:
Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)
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is there a coin which rose in value just after ico?
in my memory the price always dropped first
Hey bubba, have you seen the figures we've posted several times on the ICO coins and current market caps? |
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Just bought more. I'm up to 39,000+ LISK. That is like little bit less than 3 btc invested? Am I right? nope. exactly 3 btc. Right now I have 39434.40930390 LISK but it's being depleted by the minute LOL |
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Just bought more. I'm up to 39,000+ LISK. Nice! How much did you pay? 3 btc. I am sure my LISK count will drop a bit over the next couple days... |
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Just bought more. I'm up to 39,000+ LISK. |
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Buying more Lisk today woop woop!  |
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This forum is blowing up. From the comments and questions, it's obvious people are not reading the Lisk website and the information provided. I support Lisk. However, I do not compare it to ETH. Let's keep our heads screwed on tight and take a look at statistics from the past on other coins who did an ICO. It's easy to get emotionally attached to your own investments. The numbers below are translated into BTC and the first number is the amount raised during ICO and the second number is the current Market Cap in BTC. Lastly, you'll see the amount they've increased/decreased. Use history to be your best judge. Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap- 835% increase Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase |
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Based on these figures, if you invested 1 btc in any of these and are still holding on today, this is what your 1 btc would be worth right now (don't laugh, some people don't know how to do the math):
Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)
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using 10 BTC as an investment volume (a number easy to multiply all values by) what is the realistic expectation of the rate of return on this gig and over what period of time? no hype merchants please.
I'd use this list for predictions: Ripple - Over 30M USD from VC's - 676,227 BTC market cap Ethereum - 31,531 BTC from presale - 2,462,284 BTC market cap MaidSafe - around 12,200 in BTC from presale - 104,696 BTC market cap Stellar - 3M USD from Stripe - 27,803 BTC market cap Bitshares - 500,000 USD from investors + 5625 BTC in donations (via BTS AGS) - 38,981 BTC market cap Lisk - around 5100 BTC and 64M XCR from presale. 4 and a half days to go. Factom - 2287 BTC from presale - 43,194 BTC BTC I don't see Lisk market cap lower than 15,000-30,000 BTC. I strongly believe it's going to be somewhere between 50,000-100,000 BTC by the end of Summer. And I hope to see it over 500,000 BTC by the end of 2016. To give you a better breakdown, I converted everything into BTC and then determined the % increase from the ICO to current Market Cap figures (with the exception of Lisk since we don't know yet). Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap- 835% increase Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase |
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I'd like to see what the Devs are planning to use the funds for. What does the community think the top priorities are, in regards to how to spend the funds from this ico?
I'm sure they are working on the document. They still need to know what total they will get at the end of the ICO to do a comprehensive breakdown. Patience, I doubt they spend it on cocaine and hookers....right away. I agree they will at least build a fancy web site first. How about a Lisk yacht!? |
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Usually I hate FUDers but honestly, I find LISKisSCAMs' posts entertaining. I feel like this just doesn't come naturally to him, and has to put a lot of effort into every one of his posts. Every time I have an urge to pat his head and say "there, there keep it up, you'll get better at this". I think he uses google translate to translate English into BTT FUD. Anyway he is our Jester, he is here for our entertainment. Where can we send tips. now we need a mascot! |
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DEVS DO NOT REPLY MY QUESTIONS AND THE OTHERS ABOUT MANY USERS ASKING THE SAME THING.
They have been answered over and over and over and over again. Check out their website.
DEVS LEFT AND DUMPED XCR TO SWTICH TO THIS BTC-STEAL MONEY (4000+ BTC WITH NO HARD CAP = JOKE THE INVESTORS!!!)
Not a legit argument. Old coins are exchanged for the new. If they were to steal money they would not allow this.
DEVS ARE JUST HYPING UNTIL PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT IS ONLY A PONZI LIKE SCHEME AND IT WILL COLLAPSE
Not sure how you can build a ponzi scheme here unless there is fake money from one investor and given to another. Do you know what a ponzi scheme is?
DEVS AND THEIR TEAM: WHOEVER MET THEM IN REAL LIFE?
I have not met in person the team from Google, Microsoft, or many other large companies. However, I have bought these stocks.
LISK LAWYER: WHICH IS THE LAWYER STUDIO WHERE HE WORKS? WHERE IS THE LEGAL CERTIFICATION ABOUT IT'S JOB?
That might actually be helpful to see.
WHY MAX-SCAMMER DID NOT IMPROVED CRYPTI AND STARTED NEW ICO STEALING COIN?
It sounds like the team may have had disagreements or simply needed a rebranding campaign. It's common to see restructuring efforts in all industries. It's what drives growth. I'm not certain how this is stealing though. 4000+ btc is not in the hands of the devs. Not sure where you are getting this. These are going to be issued back to investors in the form of LISK coins and placed on an exchange.
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Actually what you're saying here doesn't hold much merit. First, you can exchange your old crypti coins for new Lisk. If it was a scam you'd be SOL on that. If you sold them all, well that's not Lisk's problem.
I personally invest in companies. I see this all the time where executives wrap up an old biz to restart a new one. Current investors who are still invested are carried over. They aren't cutting them loose. It's a bit different in the world of companies, as investors tend to be controlling much of the say, but if you own a stock in a company, you typically don't have a say as to how things are restructured. You do have a say in whether you want to sell your stock based on the news, hold, or buy more. It's really the same idea.
Take the information. If you think moving to a new project and transferring old coin holders to the new is not "fair" then you should probably not invest in the project. If you see innovation, a better future based on restructuring efforts, and think there is value in the project then you should invest. It's your call. But to keep going around and calling it a scam is a bit silly.
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