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1  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Beware bitZino shuffling algorithm leaves much to be desired... on: February 25, 2016, 09:04:29 AM
I'm really annoyed with all of you and everyone discussing this issue on other sites like reddit.

How can you all be so daft? He admits, and I quote: "The other difference is that rather than shuffling a fresh deck, we shuffle the deck once on the server first (the initial_shuffle)."

Are you guys seriously so computer science stupid as to not see how that is more or less proof that he is cheating people. If not, it's at the very least a 100% proof that the algorithm is not "provably fair"

He does an initial shuffle.

Think it over.

Never mind. If I'm the only one who figured this out then I probably need to explain it.

You have your client and server seeds that combine to do a shuffle. That's all perfectly above board. He sends you a hash of the server's seed from the start so you can verify it when he gives it to you later. And you can monitor your client side seed, set it manually, or just check that fair jvs is running for the generation.

But HE DOES AN INITIAL SHUFFLE. HE FREAKING ADMITTED IT RIGHT THERE MY GOD

I called him out on this and he INSTANTLY stopped defending his site on reddit. He was responding to all comments with such haughtiness and faux pride and as soon as someone was smart enough to see through his shit, he vanished like a snake oil salesman as soon as you go around the corner.

All he needs is a lookup table with 4 billion entries (2^32 since the effective combined server+client shuffle seed is only 32-bits (a well kown problem since there are far more than 2^32 shuffles. fuck him. fuck him to death))

But all he needs is a 4 billion entry lookup table for each possible server+client seed and a corresponding "initial shuffle" that will benefit the server.

How did none of you see this? I don't do this for a living. I had to look up what hashing and seeds were when I read his bullshit.

He IS cheating. I didn't lose much $. About .2 bitcoins. But I was still enraged by how ridiculous the statistics were panning out. I didn't play enough hands to make any statements on the issue.

Use your heads people. He fully admitted he's cheating and he deserves to be in prison.
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