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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help NEEDED, bitcoin wallet was send to Nirvana. on: March 07, 2016, 09:11:45 PM
Hey vlamer,

having the same probleme here. How did you actually solve it?

If you have the file i can help you, but if not you need to start worry. try to recover the file than.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help NEEDED, bitcoin wallet was send to Nirvana. on: March 07, 2016, 09:36:45 AM
So i assume right, that the bitcoin core deleted the wallet.dat, that was renamed from .bak before it creates  new wallet.dat?


Or where did it went, i still hope that this file is somewhere, i reconstructed the situation again and again to understand on my other computer.

so, can i use data recovery programms or should i use a company?
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help NEEDED, bitcoin wallet was send to Nirvana. on: March 07, 2016, 07:21:49 AM
BTW

if i find this file, this wallet.12312123.bak

how to make it working again?
copy that to bitcoin dir change again to wallet.dat and try to run Core, if you sure bak have your money save original file in other backup folder.
let see what happen ,do you set wallet passphrase before?


what is bitcoin dir?
 how is this working, if i add this to the folder where core load the wallet file it wonīt find it as BAK right?
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help NEEDED, bitcoin wallet was send to Nirvana. on: March 07, 2016, 06:46:12 AM
BTW

if i find this file, this wallet.12312123.bak

how to make it working again?
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help NEEDED, bitcoin wallet was send to Nirvana. on: March 07, 2016, 03:49:24 AM
the question is still where is the file gone, if i find it, than i could maybe recover it?
obviously the software deleted the renamed file and then it startet with block verification and then it created a new wallet.dat, because the old one was send to somewhere.

I know now what not to do, but it was happened and there are lots of money on it. Hopefully somebody have an idea where to search the file and what program is out there to recover wallet files (if we find it)
Why is this program deleting the wallet.dat file (what was the wallet.timestamp.bak before)
and if the program really deleted it, where did it put it.
does it makes sense to hire a data recovery company to find those files? or was it renamed and send to some folder again?
I checked already with easeus data recovery but could not find the old wallet.
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help NEEDED, bitcoin wallet was send to Nirvana. on: March 07, 2016, 01:31:09 AM
I wanted to start new because of the confusion in the first, this is more clear now...


ANYWAY to all that see this

The Wallet.dat file, was created by me, then i copied the btc receive address out it renamed it and then closed the client, so this wallet.dat then maybe could not be completet.

If i create a new wallet, wait for 10 min then do the same thing, then bitcoin core seems to "complete" this file, if i then rename it and then close the bitcoin core, and then rename it back to wallet.dat, if i then start core again, the file is fine and working

So i think, but i am not an expert, that the first wallet.dat was not ready?? because it took me only a few seconds to open new wallet, copy address and then rename and close it, maybe it was to fast anyway,
7  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 07, 2016, 01:24:36 AM
Right, but there are differences at OS level when it comes to handling of files. In any case, there are no traces of .bak file on my computer.

If there are no traces of the "wallet.XXX.bak" file after being renamed to "wallet.dat" (assuming you deleted the empty "wallet.dat" first) then it is because Bitcoin Core didn't find a problem with it when it restarted (i.e. the file wasn't corrupt).

There is no wallet.dat file at the stage when you are renaming .bak file to .dat file.
I was creating the new wallet.dat, i copy the receiver adress and then renamed it, i think even if i find this file, it might not contain data??? or will this file have all data then, even if the bitcoin client was open only for 1 min not even?
i checked it, if i do it with another wallet and i leave the program open for 10 min and then rename it, even if programm is running, than the wallet.dat is still OK

8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Help NEEDED, bitcoin wallet was send to Nirvana. on: March 07, 2016, 01:10:35 AM
I i reconstructed the error and made a Video out of it.

Th.e biggest question now is, what did bitcoin core with the wallet.dat, that disappeared from the folder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOxflDzhgU
9  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 10:23:04 PM
Hello,

thanks for all help but here a Video what happened so you can see more detailed what the problem is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6veuKuCl2k

10  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 07:53:53 PM
There is no wallet.dat file at the stage when you are renaming .bak file to .dat file.

 
Are you sure your .bak file is a corrupt wallet?



i donīt have the bak file at all. i renamed it and then it was deleted or moved by the programm
11  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 01:28:52 PM
5. Start Bitcoin Core again, it will detect corrupt wallet.dat, rename it to wallet.(random numbers).bak and exit.

Those are not "random numbers" but instead the current time stamp (as you can see clearly in the code I posted previously).

And Bitcoin Core does not delete this file anywhere (please show me the code where it does).

So if you deleted the empty "wallet.dat" and renamed the "wallet.XXX.dat" back to "wallet.dat" and restarted you'd just end up with a new empty "wallet.dat" and now a new "wallet.YYY.dat" (because the file is still corrupted and can't work as a valid wallet).

The file "wallet.XXX.dat" and "wallet.YYY.dat" would actually be identical (as it hasn't deleted anything).


Bitcoincore is not deleting
it
of course
but as i said its removing it
from the wallet.dat folder to somewhere
and this is a bug

please read carefully, or please please please, try yourself you will see

go step by step as i told you and you will see the file will disappear even if its not in the code.
you wil get a new file from the system, a new wallet
without the money OR receive adresses that was in the first one.
12  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 01:09:58 PM
No - that is not what happens (please read the code and if you can't then take my word for it or ask another programmer to read it and explain it to you).

It is failing to correctly the open the "wallet.dat" file which is (most likely) due to it being corrupt (there may be other reasons I guess of course).


but where is my file gone than, why the receiving adress is not in there and why the money is gone what ruins me and my family?

the code may say something different, but i am sure what i saw... maybe the whole chain is stil in the wallet, but i can not see it

anybody can repeat this error easy on his mac
its always the same
i start the bitcoin core, the wallet.dat file (only if i before converted it from the generated system file back to wallet.dat) disappear
then short before bitcoin core is up it creates a new wallet.
but the old, that was gone is having the information
13  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 01:02:38 PM
So - it is not "sending your wallet somewhere"*** but renaming the corrupt wallet.dat to wallet.XXX.dat (as it can't open that wallet).

It then will create a new empty wallet and continue. Your old wallet is still there (just renamed to wallet.XXX.dat) but that file is corrupt - so if you rename it back to wallet.dat you are of course going to just go around in circles (as renaming isn't going to magically repair it).

it can only create a new wallet.dat, if there is not wallet.dat, but there was a wallet.dat, because i renamed the wallet.xxx.bak to wallet.dat
but the new fresh renamed was then removed and replaced
14  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
Okay - so here is the relevant code to what is actually going on:

Code:
bool CWallet::Verify(const string& walletFile, string& warningString, string& errorString)
{
    if (!bitdb.Open(GetDataDir()))
    {
        // try moving the database env out of the way
        boost::filesystem::path pathDatabase = GetDataDir() / "database";
        boost::filesystem::path pathDatabaseBak = GetDataDir() / strprintf("database.%d.bak", GetTime());
        try {
            boost::filesystem::rename(pathDatabase, pathDatabaseBak);
            LogPrintf("Moved old %s to %s. Retrying.\n", pathDatabase.string(), pathDatabaseBak.string());
        } catch (const boost::filesystem::filesystem_error&) {
            // failure is ok (well, not really, but it's not worse than what we started with)
        }

        // try again
        if (!bitdb.Open(GetDataDir())) {
            // if it still fails, it probably means we can't even create the database env
            string msg = strprintf(_("Error initializing wallet database environment %s!"), GetDataDir());
            errorString += msg;
            return true;
        }
    }

    if (GetBoolArg("-salvagewallet", false))
    {
        // Recover readable keypairs:
        if (!CWalletDB::Recover(bitdb, walletFile, true))
            return false;
    }

    if (boost::filesystem::exists(GetDataDir() / walletFile))
    {
        CDBEnv::VerifyResult r = bitdb.Verify(walletFile, CWalletDB::Recover);
        if (r == CDBEnv::RECOVER_OK)
        {
            warningString += strprintf(_("Warning: wallet.dat corrupt, data salvaged!"
                                     " Original wallet.dat saved as wallet.{timestamp}.bak in %s; if"
                                     " your balance or transactions are incorrect you should"
                                     " restore from a backup."), GetDataDir());
        }
        if (r == CDBEnv::RECOVER_FAIL)
            errorString += _("wallet.dat corrupt, salvage failed");
    }

    return true;
}

That would seemingly indicate to me it had already found an invalid "wallet.dat" and so had renamed it (to allow you to try and recover it later) and started again with a new wallet.

It never "sent" your wallet anywhere but the corrupt "wallet.dat" became the new file "wallet.XXX.dat" (where XXX was the time stamp when this occurred).



so, if you go the steps i told you (i just a minute ago tried again after your post) then you will see.
the program starts, removes the wallet.dat ( and replaces it for a new one)
the wallet. dat is the one that is then from me renamed from the .bak file

to it happens all over again
and again
15  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
but the system, send the file to somewhere and put a new wallet.dat in there.

It doesn't do that so I think you aren't going to find any help here whilst you keep on insisting that Bitcoin Core does things that it simply doesn't do.


It is doing that, did you try it?

i mean with send not send by mail or what ever

so, if you change the file name from wallet.123123123.bak to wallet.dat
then if you start the software again, the software will let your fresh renamed file disappear and will create a new, useless one.
with sending i mean in what folder that put it, because if they create a new one, they should put it somewhere right?
if you, yourself add another file, than your filemanage will ask you, replace, keep both or cancel.
but here not, the botcoin core just add a new one after it deletes the one that is possibly broken"
16  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 12:30:17 PM
As Bitcoin Core does not "send wallets" anywhere either the OP is being purposely dense (or worse) or this whole topic is actually a joke (the fact that he doesn't even bother trying to restore his old backup suggests the latter to me).



It is not a joke,

my old file are restored, the backup that i have is only for the old wallet, and this is empty since i tranfered it over+
the focus is on the new one

If you read the steps and follow them you will see what i mean
i did it 20 times to really be sure that the system is sending or deleting or replacing the wallet.dat that one that is freshly renamed

mates, this problem is really serious for me and i really are f.... in trouble without solution. so please, take a careful look at it, go a bit deeper, if i would have the file or backups i would have no problem,
but the system, send the file to somewhere and put a new wallet.dat in there.
17  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
So you do not have backup of a new wallet nor backup of wallet.1457257429.bak?

NO,

i renamed the bak file to wallet file
so it is normally not lost
but the system replaced it with a new wallet file
the normal procedere is that the system will only replace if in the folder is no wallet.dat available
in my case the system see a wallet.dat, but knowing that this was a wallet.2314234.bak before and then removes it
(not really replace, because it goes away a second after start the app, and the new one is coing after all the checks.)

so, where the system send the file, is htere any backup or so,
i think here we need experts in the software itself right, is there any support for bitcoin core that is highly advanced, i even will pay them 500$ per hour for that. i need it to be solved.

First of all, do not mess with partition and HDD where you have Bitcoin wallet.dat files! Second, download Recuva https://www.piriform.com/recuva or some other file recovery software to different computer, install it there then shutdown your computer with Bitcoin wallet.dat files. Remove HDD from it, attach it to computer with file recovery software and do a full deep scan of HDD. All found deleted files must be copied to different HDD, not the one that have Bitcoin wallet.dat files! Unless you are perfectly aware of what you are doing better just take HDD to file recovery specialist or service.

Bitcoin Core simply deleted your new wallet.dat (wallet.2314234.bak) file but possibly there is a chance it is not unrecoverably overwritten.


Hi, thank you

but the file is not really deleted, the bitcoin core system send it somewhere, i dont think they delete it.
if you follow the steps you can see it in your wallet happen, its a Bug maybe

the bitcoin core app creates a new wallet.dat file and there is not my money, the bitcoin core program send 1. the wallet.dat (what was renamed to wallet.dat from the wallet-4343.dat) to nirvana, and i donīt know where it is
18  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 11:52:44 AM
So you do not have backup of a new wallet nor backup of wallet.1457257429.bak?

NO,

i renamed the bak file to wallet file
so it is normally not lost
but the system replaced it with a new wallet file
the normal procedere is that the system will only replace if in the folder is no wallet.dat available
in my case the system see a wallet.dat, but knowing that this was a wallet.2314234.bak before and then removes it
(not really replace, because it goes away a second after start the app, and the new one is coing after all the checks.)

so, where the system send the file, is htere any backup or so,
i think here we need experts in the software itself right, is there any support for bitcoin core that is highly advanced, i even will pay them 500$ per hour for that. i need it to be solved.

19  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 11:38:49 AM
quote author=SISAR link=topic=1389123.msg14113632#msg14113632 date=1457263706]
and the programm created a new wallet and send the old 94kb wallet, what was renamed back to wallet.dat to SOMEWHERE.
Where can it be?

2016-03-06 09:43:49 Renamed wallet.dat to wallet.1457257429.bak
2016-03-06 09:43:49 Salvage(aggressive) found no records in wallet.1457257429.bak.

Clearly, wallet did not send old wallet.dat anywhere but renamed it to wallet.1457257429.bak
[/quote]

YEs, but then i renamed it to wallet.dat
then starting again and system removed it to "nowhere" or to a safe place i donīt know
and created a new wallet, where my money not is.

----------------

everybody can easy do the same to test ist.
I will increase my reward to 5000$ if somebody finds solution for it

just bring all your wallets to safe place
then let sytem create a new one.
then rename it
then close program
then rename it back to wallet.dat
then start system
it will rename it to wallet.timestamp.bak and put out error message
then you rename it from that again to wallet.dat
then you start the system (bitcoin core)
then the bitcoin core will delete it or this is the question send it to somewhere
and then it takes a while until the sytem is up and then it creates a new one.
where is the one gone?
20  Other / Archival / Re: HEEEELP ME, 2000$ R E W A R D FOR the right solution timestamp .bak wallet away on: March 06, 2016, 11:27:07 AM
Did you make a copy of your wallet.timestmap.bak before renaming it back to wallet.dat and did you know the address you used to receive the coins if your answer is no then the coins are gone. learn to use the the pywallet.

No, i did not safed the bak file before, i did not expect that the system will remove the renamed wallet.dat
and yes, i know the adress, i have a backup of the old wallet.

It was, the system saw my renamed file from bak to dat and then then instead of using it, or giving another error, it created a new wallet.dat file
but before it created it, it deleted or moved it, i can not see any reason why this program will remove it to nowhere, i guess and hope its safed somewhere.
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