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Well the guy who did spacemint does work for me  The actual lead developer of Spacemint is with you where? At IOHK? Is he also working on Ethereum Classic? @xxmetalmartyrxx. If you want a proof of space cryptocoin then you have to wait. I heard the creator of Bittorrent is making one based on proof of space and proof of time. They say it will be more efficient and would waste less resources versus all the energy wasted in proof of work. I heard it too, but he also said that he doesn't think a new coin should be created for that. Is he really dreaming that Bitcoin would adopt his concept? Depends on when you quote him. Pre April, you'd be correct. Recently he says that Bitcoin adoption would be impossible, therefore he will create his own coin |
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Nothing interesting about timing at all. It is new! See source date of white paper https://www.iacr.org/news/Also Bram says that this is just the "space" whitepaper. The time bit could take months or years to accomplish. |
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Does anyone know what Bram's coin would be called and when it could be out. It doesn't have to be perfet on launch.
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following details of switching and the strings on use with the occupation as disputes on change as the work on scripting with the personal projects of the miners,
that different programmer to work with decision as running of function with the use of the selection of commands,
that is as to differs the use of FTP request, HTTP request of InetReq request to calls of value as the release from the developer.
And in English please. This makes no sense |
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i dont know why yobit still listing altcoin with zero network, seem its bad for trader, but for pumping group its easy to make moneyw with altcoin without network, so he can buy a lot altcoin then pump it and not woried about new deposit :: )
Personally I think it's unethical to sell a coin that has no way of being withdrawn. What value is a coin if if cannot be transferred. It's pointless unless you feel that selling people something they cannot own is okay. Sounds more like fraud to me |
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Just lost £600 to Yobit scammers. They're under investigation by Russian Authorities. I'm hoping they take my wallet out of maintenance mode, so I can withdraw my money but I'm not counting on it from what I've been reading
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Hello, my friends,
sorry for the late responce i was busy the last days.
@cryptoslave
i had tried it after your post ANC works there, open a ticket @ BTC38 so they can fix that lag? on your account.
@ ysell i had no problems with yobit and their service in my case was fine, can you please explain in detail what the problem was
sind i did not understand it. (Coins you bought where vanished?)
No you can buy coins, but cannot withdraw. So your coins are stuck on their exchange. They are using old wallets. Developers have tried to resolve the issue with Yobit.net to no avail. Search for Yobit.net on bitcointalk.org and I'm not the only one |
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Just a headsup Yobit.net are a scam. Just tried to buy a few other coins to see what the deal was regarding ANC and Yobit.net: their response is, sorry we need to do maintenance in future. Your wallet is not working." Just did a search on other alt coins and it seems it would be the case on almost all alt coins. Beware anyone pushing you onto the Yobit.net site. Very dodgy
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Hey guys,
Is our i2p chatroom still active? Any news on meeh?
I've tried talking to Meeh a few times with no luck. It's still active though |
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Thank you it's catching up now!!!! So it seems the bootstrap helped get me about a 1/4 of the way caught up but now I'm stuck at 2 years and 15 weeks behind. At this point I'm not sure what to do, switch over to I2P?? No need. It will complete on clearnet. I left mine to complete overnight, and by the morning it was complete. Stop screen timeout /saver. Try it again. It should work |
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Hi all,
I will start putting together some ideas and structure for the crowdfunding. Ysell was able to speak with some developers and was given $20k as a target. If we are trying to raise money this way, we need a fully costed project that will integrate zerocoin including a revenue stream to pay for continuous development. Suggestions on what we should target? We don't need to reach the objective to get what we have raised.
The first thing we need is for the community to donate some ANC's to give away to the crowdfunding donors as a thank you. If the crowdfunding doesn't go ahead, donations will be returned. CS, can you please co-ordinate ANC donations and then send it to the crowdfunding donors? I was thinking we could give 1 ANC as a gesture of gratitude per donation. Any suggestions?
Finally, we need ideas for making money after zerocoin has been fully integrated to pay for continuous development. The initial idea was to try a second crowdfunding for an exchange and give away some of the equity to donors. Ysell suggested we raise money via transaction fees which could also work as well. Any suggestions?
The financing looks good. My gut feeling is that the payout should be dynamic based on it's current FIAT value. If you come up with a list of questions. We could have one set of questions for short term development strategy i.e. Zerocoin implementation and one set of questions or suggestions for longer term projects such as, feasible financing /development. I would suggest a short term strategy would be to encourage a regained interest in the project via your crowd funding proposal Machico. This would support the longer term strategy. With more developers on board, they could work on the longer term business model, the business model deliverables would be strengthened with extra crowd funding projects. One such project could be to extend financing past the initial crowd funding stage. So it's self financing without a requirement for our intervention. We could make it automatic and democratic by getting a developer to set voting systems, so that future development can be prioritised based on stakeholders interests. And these project developers get paid when "n" stakeholders agree that the work is completed. This would boost the coin as developers increase the value of their ANC and they get a double whammy of being paid for the project they've undertaken. As the ANC becomes more established on exchanges we could pay developers in ANC rather than in FIAT making the payment systems more integrated with the coin itself. |
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Interesting... this thread has woken up and also cryptopia seems to be recovering in terms of volume and price
Meeh has done some amazing work on i2p recently and the encrypted Internet traffic is having negligible impact on performance. A year ago, the extra load was definitely noticeable. Now I'm continually checking to see if i2p is active because it's so fast. There is more interest in i2p cryptocurrency now as it is performing better. There are worldwide political and economic reasons why coins such as Anoncoin are becoming more saught after. |
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After all the Windows based issues in the news regarding hacking. A more secure Linux wallet would be ideal. I've created this tutorial in making a portable, wallet, with a flash drive bootable Linux OS. I've tested it thoroughly and see no issues with it. Please give me feedback http://www.docomputing.co.uk/running-the-anoncoin-wallet-on-a-flash-drive-usb/index.htmlIt's a super fast wallet, i2p and Operating system and the great thing is you can set it up as cold storage. Exposing your wallet to limited Internet time reduces the possibility of hacking. Going to ask the development team if they want to include my version on the Wiki. Next job is to get zerocoin configured. Going to check over the existing zerocoin code in the next few weeks and see what can be done. If there's any developers not on irc2p that want to contribute, please get on irc2p and let the team know if you're available to contribute. Machico, could you please give me your thoughts on crowd funding. I will ask the developers what they think a fair price for creating a zerocoin solution would be. I was thinking if the crowd funding price was high enough, it would gain more interest, and possibly lead to greater PR, an attractive solution for new developers etc. If we propose a complete zerocoin solution rather than broken down deliverables it may incourage a team of developers to get involved, work together and they can then divide the proceeds between themselves once a zerocoin solution has been established. What do you and X68N think? |
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i think at the start there should only 3 coins added: BTC (most known, but slow as fk) , LTC (second oldest succsessful way faster) ETH newcomer but already traded on many Exchanges. Coinmarketcap is not a very unbiased indicator* so i made a research on how many exchanges the coins are traded and how the moneyflow is distributed on all exchanges where the coin is traded. *some coins in the Top10 have only 1-3 exchanges with massive volume, but imaginge if that exchange vanishes (hack,fraud,gov regulation fail,DDOS) like MtGox.Cryptsy and so on. The The coin will drop instant out of the Top ten. So here is my research:  i think monero should not be added at the start since it will give them a feature "for free". Give me some counter arguments to that statement pls does anyone know if Digibyte of bytecoin have some "anon" features? I have used exchanged.i2p and thought it was pretty good. There are some improvements that could be made, but considering it's up and running already it would be great to continue using it. Personally I don't think it's a good idea to single out competitive currency as it removes portability for those interested in crossing over from inferior privacy tech like zcash. Cryptoslave : I don't know if this has already been considered but could we possibly fork the zcoin project and bolt on the i2p infrastructure afterwards, saving time trying to integrate zcoin code into existing Anoncoin code? The fact that Meeh is still working on i2p integrations for other coins means he would be the man for this job. I tried to contact Meeh last night, but he wasn't around. What do you think Cryptoslave? |
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Can someone with some developer brains compare https://zcoin.io/get-zcoin/ implementation of zerocoin with ANC Anoncoin zerocoin work. It looks like the zerocoin content could be downloaded from github.com and added to the ANC to create a hardfork https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin. ANC has the added benefit of having and integrated i2p tunnel. With my limited coding knowledge I've just gone through a bit of code and it looks very similar to ANC. I can't be the only one to have seen this? I'll get on irc2p and talk over the code. If this is the case, there is no need to crowdfund the zerocoin elements, but rather fund the integration of this existing zerocoin code into the ANC system. I'm struggling to see how it's much different than a cut and paste. Okay that's a bit exaggerated, but surely there must be a developer able to do this? |
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Ysell - Good job mate.
X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.
Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we, as investors want results. I agree ysell. CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward. To developers Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement. It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts. I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p. Thanks CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p. Gnosis lunokhod Meeh Ssuag I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks Do they use the same name? Yes. The feedback about crowdfunding was extremely positive. There are some complexities that my brain cannont comprehend at this point in the night. It will take 2-3 developers to complete the Zerocoin element. If we crowdfund one component part of zerocoin for example "RPC create spend", this part interacts with "RPC get seeding spend proofs", it will likely need changing later on, test more and on it goes. Therefore there is no easy way of crowdfunding component parts as each part interacts with another, thus there are interchangable cogs to get the zerocoin system moving, each involving more than one developer continually configuring and testing collaboratively to produce a Zerocoin solution. I am not so clued up on crowd funding, so how could this sort of development be crowdfunded? Machico - rather than filling up the forum pages with our crowdfunding drafts, could we possibly PM each other and post a final draft that others can analyse and feedback on. I'm just a bit concerned about filling the forum's with too much noise. I've told the guys on irc2p that I would be sending our draft proposals for checking in a few weeks. I've never been so excited about Anoncoin. Hi ysell, machico, and others, as an anoncoin holder I appreciate your efforts. But I wonder: a) how do you intend to incentivize the crowdfunders to spend money on this project. I mean, there are no anoncoins available that could be distributed to them in return for the money they provide (like in an ICO). b) to my understanding, most of the Anoncoin developers are anonymous and intend to stay so. How would you make sure that they don't take the money and then simply disappear. (If I remember right, it happened before that Anoncoin was pumped by announcing Zerocoin and then the responsible developer suddenly never was seen again.) c) most of the Anoncoin developers probably hold a considerable stack of Anoncoin. Given that currently there's no real anonymous currency (most ZEC transactions use t-addresses, most Monero transactions turned out to be linkable), they could make a killing by implementing Zerocoin. So, the financial incentive is alread there. The fact that there's still no Zerocoin suggests that the developers simply are not able to implement it. For this reason, an additional financial incentive probably won't have much of an effect. Gnosis is not around to finish zerocoin. The response on irc2p was that the final stages of zerocoin will involve 2-3 developers. The problem seems to be; *how do you check Zerocoin is complete without thorough testing *who checks authenticity (I'm no developer) *how do you fairly pay those developers contributing so that they are paid for their contributed efforts Your questions A) The starting 3 years of mining coins was producing a 10% income for developers. This is bound to stifle innovation and development after the 3 year period. Personally I see crowd funding as the best option. Payment can be made in FIAT or Bitcoin as there are not enough Anoncoin mining to continue the ICO type scenario B) a bag and run would be prevented as the checks on authenticity of the zerocoin would be carried out before payout. A delay on payout could be set after a set period of positive testing. C) financial incentive for zerocoin is not as prevalent as you say as the Zerocoin element is crucial to it's increased value. Therefore new zerocoin developers would be required to increase value and they may not hold ANC. Thus The incentive to new developers of completing Zerocoin is the problem we wish to solve with crowd funding. This would lead to current holders ANC assets increasing in value, and miners incentivised to continue mining etc. Just as a side note, I would suggest developers of zerocoin buy large amounts of ANC in order that when they complete the crowd funding project, they receive a double whammy of finance as their ANC holdings increase and they receive a payout from the crowd funding. |
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Ysell - Good job mate.
X68N - Thank you for that. I will wait for yobit.net to reply and then we can update the registration with the payment.
Regarding the crowdfunding, the first thing we need to think about is how much we need to raise to take Anoncoin forward as the best Altcoin.
Thanks Cryptoslave & Machico It would probably add to the strength and backing of the coin if some of the main developers were to give their support of the crowd funding and provide some indicators of deliverables they themselves prioritise as essential for the coin's prosperity. We could get this via irc2p, but for the initial purpose of authenticity, most people would prefer to read it first hand here. When crowd funding, I propose a seperate crowd fund for each deliverable? This way, if a developer were to inform us of a crucial element and put forward zerocoin, and another were to prioritise marketing we could put our money where we, as investors want results. I agree ysell. CS - After the Yobit listing request, can you list your priorities at the moment and future deliverables so we can start planing a strategy to move forward. To developers Can I also add that It would be advantageous to put the costings for what you feel would be a proportionate financial goal for each deliverable. We all have to earn to put food on the table, pay bills etc so it's only fair that you are paid for the amount of days, weeks or months this will take to implement. It is understandable that you would choose paid work over non paid ANC work, so I think it's only fair that you are provided with appropriate donations for your ANC efforts. I know it's a weekend and there's not going to be lots of chat happening on #Anoncoin, but there are only 5 members logged in at the moment. Could someone tell me all the usernames of developers on irc2p so that I can point them to this discussion? I guess their usernames maybe different on irc2p. Thanks CS has mentioned their names on here but as you said, they might have different names on irc2p. Gnosis lunokhod Meeh Ssuag I was logged into the wrong network. All sorted now. Thanks Do they use the same name? Yes. The feedback about crowdfunding was extremely positive. There are some complexities that my brain cannont comprehend at this point in the night. It will take 2-3 developers to complete the Zerocoin element. If we crowdfund one component part of zerocoin for example "RPC create spend", this part interacts with "RPC get seeding spend proofs", it will likely need changing later on, test more and on it goes. Therefore there is no easy way of crowdfunding component parts as each part interacts with another, thus there are interchangable cogs to get the zerocoin system moving, each involving more than one developer continually configuring and testing collaboratively to produce a Zerocoin solution. I am not so clued up on crowd funding, so how could this sort of development be crowdfunded? Machico - rather than filling up the forum pages with our crowdfunding drafts, could we possibly PM each other and post a final draft that others can analyse and feedback on. I'm just a bit concerned about filling the forum's with too much noise. I've told the guys on irc2p that I would be sending our draft proposals for checking in a few weeks. I've never been so excited about Anoncoin. |
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