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$500 to ship to the US?!?!?!? wtf that is a load of Sh!7
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WTF IS A TENDLINE? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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I can troll too. thekazu4u: WHENEVER I GET BANNED THE PRICE OF BITCOIN GOES UP. system: thekazu4u was banned for 180m by Simplyfun ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Winning
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This guy flip flops more than Mitt Romney! Amirite?
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forrast86: Is Gox under attack?
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Wekkel: BTC ging to $20 fast or slow, suiker bullshit still strong
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I apologize but I am withdrawing my offer. I found a local person selling their avalon for a better price.
I am sorry for the inconvenience
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I can do 35k ish, but would want to have it picked up ASAP, ie. within a few days - I would be coming from Victoria. Would just want to see it running in person, then a quick turnaround ideally.
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I would be In for 1000 usd but this is too short of notice if the units go on sale in a few hours.
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And nobody is bitching about them delaying and building a mining farm for themselves.... wow...
Honestly l am not happy about the price of batch 3 avalon but did you actually read the newsletter? It said they would either farm for a month OR raise the price of the units and leave it up to the community. Realistically they could mine new each unit for 1 week and call it ' testing' then ship selling them at $2000 usd and be in just as good of a cash position.*I wish they would do that*
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This website is gimpy.... if I add a unit to my cart the checkout says I owe 9012.30 BTC.... Lol wtf
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Dear Bitsyncom, I am completely taken aback on this. I can not see how this investment now makes any sense whatsoever. The only way I would see this being worthwhile is if you were shipping the units right now but you are not. You have now taken the risk factor of your product to a whole new unprecedented level. Let me make some points. 1. No confirmed shipping time 2. Not even all of batch 1 has been received 3. 0 guarantee that the unit will work upon arrival. 4. As stated on the website no tech support. 5. No refunds. 6. No returns of non working units. 7. Good chance difficulty is going to be above 10mill(batch 2 alone will add over 40 TH/s) 8. BFL may one day actually ship 9. BTC could crash after unit is paid for now costing buying a ton more and Roi becomes non existent. 10. If BTC continues to go up before product orders it is costing even more. 11. There is absolutely no guarantee I would even receive my unit(s)
So *if* a unit was received and *if* difficulty is less than 10 mill and *if* BFL does not ship...... ( could go on with the *if*s but will not) You are now asking customers to take on a substantially larger risk than before at a much lower Roi. I thought I read somewhere a few months ago that the idea behind avalon was not about making money but an attempt get get more people into bitcoin and helping secure the network. This move served to the exact opposite effect. You are putting the units in to the hands of a select few allowing them more hashing power and turning your back on people like me who are new to bitcoin. I had a genuine interest in running these machines with the hope I would at least my initial investment back and any money on top was a bonus but not expected. Some friends and I were going to buy up to 4 units expecting them to cost between 2000-2500 but now we are all backing out. I did attempt to purchase back in batch 2 but was unable to secure enough BTC in time to make even a 1 unit purchase. You talk about people not trusting you and saying you are going to fail but why would they trust you? You had no delivered product until recently, and provided no guarantee to any customer of working units or refund. I had faith in your product and was willing to go all in with what I can afford being a father of 4 kids under 6 years of age but now you have shattered my faith by asking this much money per unit. Being of sound mind I cannot logically justify buying a unit under these insanely risky conditions. You talk as though the people here are greedy for wanting a reasonable price on one of these units but fail to see how much it makes you look greedy for asking such a price. It almost seems you expect everyone to be ok with the fact that they may never see an ROI and to solely do this for the good of the network, forgetting that monetary gain is a primary factor that will allow this network to become strong. As I said earlier I would be absolutely content running 1 or multiple machines and only getting my invested amount and power costs back because I have found bitcoin fascinating. Unless another company comes out with a reasonable product and price I am out if bitcoin for good.
No offense but I can't help feeling you have turned around completely and are now driven solely by monetary gain.
I do respect what you have been able to accomplish with avalon and hope the best for your future endeavors.
(p's sorry about the formatting ad I typed this on my phone)
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Better ASICS, that's like saying oh someone made the first computer with 256MB of RAM what's next
+1
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This is madness...
Waiting for it.......
THIS IS SPARTABITCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIN! We're going parabolic, $60 by tomorrow? Aaah thank you Sooooooo go bitcoin.
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This is madness...
Waiting for it.......
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3rd purchase with velacreations. Just as smooth and painless as the last 2.
Thanks again.
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Another smooth purchase.
Thanks again!
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There have been scores of threads over the last couple years about selling bitcoins through paypal. The consensus is that it there is no way to avoid being burned. I'm going to assume that you either haven't read them, or you don't care. I think the most successful seller was able to weed out enough scammers to make a profit (he required a phone conversation with every buyer), but was eventually shut down by paypal.
BTW, a verified Paypal account won't stop protect you from scammers that use stolen accounts.
You may be right but I appreciate what he is doing and for selling me one today.
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I have to say I am very happy, been having a hard time to fins someone to sell me 1 BTC and BitBears has done it well. Been trying for 5 days now and even signed up for BTCQUICK 4 days ago yet they have not processed my transaction. No reply yet from BTCBuddy1 either. Took no time at all and BitBears has been a phenomenal seller. Great transaction and very satisfied. Thank you, ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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