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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 14, 2017, 11:56:30 AM
SEC only applies for US citizens and ONLY for buying or creating their own funds - it is not related to holding ICN, not even for US citizens.

FACT #1: ICN tokens are classified as Unregistered Foreign Securities.

FACT #2: ICONOMI broke SEC law by advertising & selling foreign ICN security tokens to US citizens during the ICO.

FACT #3: KRAKEN.com is currently breaking SEC law by offering trading of unregistered foreign ICN security tokens to US citizens.



Any US person who was scammed & defrauded by Iconomi team for investing in unregistered US securities during the ICO, should file a complain here:
https://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml


Warning: US investors are not allowed to use Iconomi site, which also means Iconomi can confiscate your ICN funds on ico.iconomi.net at any given time.

It's gonna be a Black Monday indeed.
I see lot of bag holders in the making.
I see another Paycoin/Paybase in the making.
Soon we'll be under 0.0001
US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use.
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
 

This is not fud. This is the reality. So deal with it:
ICN tokens are a Security, therefore they cannot be listed on Poloniex & Bittrex
Kraken exchange will soon delist ICN when the SEC come knocking on their doors.


https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 14, 2017, 07:50:26 AM
I'd be careful how you talk to people around here...
One phone call to the SEC & they'll shut down Kraken.com for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities.
Any US person who was scammed & defrauded by Iconomi team for investing in unregistered US securities during the ICO, should file a complain here:
https://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml



Repost this when SEC office opens in next few hours so people can call them to suspend ICN trading on Kraken or shut down Kraken.com all together for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities..

Alright then... I will make it my part time job to report it to SEC.
Soon you will all be left with Liqui to sell your ICN bag.


Liqui operators will be very interested in seeing Kraken suspended by the SEC for trading ICN security tokens.

When Liqui becomes the only exchange to buy/sell ICN, their trading volume will increase significantly.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 14, 2017, 06:37:58 AM
I'd be careful how you talk to people around here...
One phone call to the SEC & they'll shut down Kraken.com for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities.
Any US person who was scammed & defrauded by Iconomi team for investing in unregistered US securities during the ICO, should file a complain here:
https://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml



Repost this when SEC office opens in next few hours so people can call them to suspend ICN trading on Kraken or shut down Kraken.com all together for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities..
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 14, 2017, 05:34:48 AM
A maximum of 1,250,000 MLN will be created before the final version of the Melon protocol is deployed to the live network. Following the live deployment, a fixed amount of new token will be created periodically and be distributed towards the most widely used Modules of the Melon protocol. This incentivises maintenance and development of the Melon protocol even after its final version is deployed to the live network.


I agree with your calculations that the maximum of 1,250,000 MLN will be created before the final version of the Melon protocol is deployed to the live network... but the main thing to consider in this comparison is that I don't give a fuck about neither MelonPort nor Iconomi, so keep on advertising other competitors here all you want.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 14, 2017, 04:51:40 AM
Jani & Tim were not allowed to speak at the conference because ICN is a Security Token & Iconomi team broke many SEC laws by soliciting money from US investors during the ICO
Even after they launch their platform, I highly doubt people would trust their money with such shady fund managers in Slovenia... maaaybe few thousands of dollars, but nothing much that would make dividends any significant.
They can fool people sometimes, but they can't fool people all the times.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 14, 2017, 04:37:47 AM
Warning: US investors are not allowed to use Iconomi site, which also means Iconomi can confiscate your ICN funds on ico.iconomi.net at any given time.

It's gonna be a Black Monday indeed.
I see lot of bag holders in the making.
I see another Paycoin/Paybase in the making.
Soon we'll be under 0.0001
US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use.
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
 

This is not fud. This is the reality. So deal with it:
ICN tokens are a Security, therefore they cannot be listed on Poloniex & Bittrex
Kraken exchange will soon delist ICN when the SEC come knocking on their doors.


https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 11:49:03 PM

Add Iconomi to the long list of ICO scams from East Europe where Devs slowly fade away with funds while hiding behind delays & regulations.
ICN will soon drop below 0.0001
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 11:20:33 PM
lol, no news about the conference in florida
no one even knows if they talked or what they talked about
could be a giant scam, price fell 40 points today
only up because bagholders are desperate to keep the ship afloat

Jani & Tim were not allowed to speak at the conference because ICN is a Security Token & Iconomi team broke many SEC laws by soliciting money from US investors during the ICO
Got proof?
People who attended the conference have confirmed that Jani & Tim were not allowed to speak.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 08:55:15 PM
Warning: US investors are not allowed to use Iconomi site, which also means Iconomi can confiscate your ICN funds on ico.iconomi.net at any given time.

It's gonna be a Black Monday indeed.
I see lot of bag holders in the making.
I see another Paycoin/Paybase in the making.
Soon we'll be under 0.0001
US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use.
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
 

This is not fud. This is the reality. So deal with it:
ICN tokens are a Security, therefore they cannot be listed on Poloniex & Bittrex
Kraken exchange will soon delist ICN when the SEC come knocking on their doors.


https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 08:40:47 PM
All the trolling and FUD around here makes me laugh. The price is dropping or rising based off of such a tiny amount of ICN holders freaking out and selling or buying based off of predictions, rumors or lies. The core of ICN holders are in it for the long term it seems. Just look at the etherscan.io iconomi toke holdings.  60% of all ICN is still unmoved by the many investors which can be seen by the largest account. I look at this number to see how strong or weak ICN is, at the moment rock solid.



https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI#balances

Warning: US investors are not supposed to use Iconomi site, which also means Iconomi can confiscate your ICN funds on ico.iconomi.net at any given time.

Monday Feb 13 = "BLACK MONDAY"
The writings are on the walls, don't say you were not warned.
LOL... It's gonna be a Black Monday indeed.
I see lot of bag holders in the making.

I see another Paycoin/Paybase in the making.
Soon we'll be under 0.0001

US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use.
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
 

This is not fud. This is the reality. So deal with it:
ICN tokens are a Security, therefore they cannot be listed on Poloniex & Bittrex
Kraken exchange will soon delist ICN when the SEC come knocking on their doors.


https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 06:03:11 PM
Monday Feb 13 = "BLACK MONDAY"
The writings are on the walls, don't say you were not warned.
LOL... It's gonna be a Black Monday indeed.
I see lot of bag holders in the making.


I see another Paycoin/Paybase in the making.
Soon we'll be under 0.0001

US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use.
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
 

This is not fud. This is the reality. So deal with it:
ICN tokens are a Security, therefore they cannot be listed on Poloniex & Bittrex
Kraken exchange will soon delist ICN when the SEC come knocking on their doors.


https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf

Warning: US investors are not supposed to use Iconomi site, which also means Iconomi can confiscate your ICN funds on ico.iconomi.net at any given time.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 11:32:47 AM
Monday Feb 13 = "BLACK MONDAY"
The writings are on the walls, don't say you were not warned.
LOL... It's gonna be a Black Monday indeed.
I see lot of bag holders in the making.


I see another Paycoin/Paybase in the making.
Soon we'll be under 0.0001

US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use.
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
 

This is not fud. This is the reality. So deal with it:
ICN tokens are a Security, therefore they cannot be listed on Poloniex & Bittrex
Kraken exchange will soon delist ICN when the SEC come knocking on their doors.


https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf

Warning: US investors are not supposed to use Iconomi site, which also means Iconomi can confiscate your ICN funds on ico.iconomi.net at any given time.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 11:07:27 AM
In a way, all this fud and dump is giving strong liquidity for new people to enjoy the next bullish wave.

I'd be careful from buying ICN right now.
Kraken may delist it if they re-evaluate it as a Security Token or if the SEC orders them to suspend ICN trading.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 08:10:47 AM
ICN will dump to .00030s, then continues dumping to .00020s when Devs launch the platform with just ICNX trading, with no OFM in sight. Then will drop below ICO level like the majority of ICOs.
No, I'm sorry. I don't plan on buying back AT ALL.
I rather invest in another ICO and make a quick x4 or x5 return, than go down with this ship back under ICO level.
With so many competitors showing promising prototypes (MelonPort, NeuFund.org, Equibit, TaaS, etc...), Iconomi's value proposition has "gone out the window".
As I said:

Iconomi had potential back in Q3/Q4 2016 but unfortunately the delays, the lies, the woes are starting to unravel in their business plan, especially with the legal barriers & OFM delay to end of 2017.

Don't say I didn't warn you!
The next dump will drop ICN below ICO level.




Meanwhile, Iconomi shills keep shitposting while insiders keep dumping on the noobs.

The BIG DUMP is coming...

Looks like the dumping is about to begin...
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 08:09:02 AM
Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?




You're repeating yourself over and over and you just demonstrated your stupidity again by entirely missing the point.

- Kraken's securities-expert lawyers approved ICN listing

- Bittrex owner debunked the fud that there was any regulation problem with listing ICN.  
He verified that the reason it was listed on Kraken and not other exchanges is because ICN devs gave Kraken green light, but not yet any other exchanges.

Most major exchanges don't list a coin/token unless they get approval from the devs.

Bittrex owner said ICN is "not getting listed soon" because it's a Security Token you moron.
ICN founders said repeatedly that they tried to list ICN on Poloniex & kept hiding behind NDA's because Poloniex refused to list ICN because it's a Security Token.

Bittrex owner said they're "working on other things" meaning ICNX trading, which will only accelerate the dilution of ICN price & market cap since dividends from ICNX will remain minuscule for months.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 07:56:15 AM
Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?
When Kraken delists ICN after they find out that it's a Security Token, only Liqui will be left.

17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 06:42:46 AM
ICN will dump to .00030s, then continues dumping to .00020s when Devs launch the platform with just ICNX trading, with no OFM in sight. Then will drop below ICO level like the majority of ICOs.
No, I'm sorry. I don't plan on buying back AT ALL.
I rather invest in another ICO and make a quick x4 or x5 return, than go down with this ship back under ICO level.
With so many competitors showing promising prototypes (MelonPort, NeuFund.org, Equibit, TaaS, etc...), Iconomi's value proposition has "gone out the window".
As I said:

Iconomi had potential back in Q3/Q4 2016 but unfortunately the delays, the lies, the woes are starting to unravel in their business plan, especially with the legal barriers & OFM delay to end of 2017.

Don't say I didn't warn you!
The next dump will drop ICN below ICO level.




Meanwhile, Iconomi shills keep shitposting while insiders keep dumping on the noobs.

The BIG DUMP is coming...
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 06:41:47 AM
Monday Feb 13 = "BLACK MONDAY"
The writings are on the walls, don't say you were not warned.
LOL... It's gonna be a Black Monday indeed.
I see lot of bag holders in the making.


I see another Paycoin/Paybase in the making.
Soon we'll be under 0.0001

US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use.
4.1 THE WEBSITE AND ITS PRODUCTS ARE NOT OFFERED FOR USE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (“USA”) REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION
 

This is not fud. This is the reality. So deal with it:
ICN tokens are a Security, therefore they cannot be listed on Poloniex & Bittrex
Kraken exchange will soon delist ICN when the SEC come knocking on their doors.


https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 05:01:15 AM
So many Iconomi shills on this threads.
This is always a sign of a dying project.

if it's dying, why the fuck do you care?

fudding cum guzzling faggot

I'd be careful how you talk to people around here...
One phone call to the SEC & they'll shut down Kraken.com for offering trading of ICN tokens that are unregistered US securities.

+1

Any US person who was scammed & defrauded by Iconomi team for investing in unregistered US securities during the ICO, should file a complain here:
https://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml

20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: February 13, 2017, 02:44:52 AM
ICN will dump to .00030s, then continues dumping to .00020s when Devs launch the platform with just ICNX trading, with no OFM in sight. Then will drop below ICO level like the majority of ICOs.
No, I'm sorry. I don't plan on buying back AT ALL.
I rather invest in another ICO and make a quick x4 or x5 return, than go down with this ship back under ICO level.
With so many competitors showing promising prototypes (MelonPort, NeuFund.org, Equibit, TaaS, etc...), Iconomi's value proposition has "gone out the window".
As I said:

Iconomi had potential back in Q3/Q4 2016 but unfortunately the delays, the lies, the woes are starting to unravel in their business plan, especially with the legal barriers & OFM delay to end of 2017.

Don't say I didn't warn you!
The next dump will drop ICN below ICO level.




Meanwhile, Iconomi shills keep shitposting while insiders keep dumping on the noobs.

The BIG DUMP is coming...
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