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Named as Peter Todd... but Todd denies he's Nakamoto.
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They distributed the coins today.
Do you know how many tokens we should receive per 1 ETH? 6093/ETH I believe. |
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They distributed the coins today.
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How long does the sale go on for? That's assuming it doesn't sell out quickly.
How much was raised in the presale? So how much of the $25M cap is still available for the public sale?
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These are listed as BBB, not BET, in Parity.
Has anyone tried transferring them yet? I don't read Solidity good enough to tell if they're transferrable yet (I know that doesn't normally happen till the end of fundraising).
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When do the tokens become transferable? Your blog articles seem to suggest anything from within 48 hours of the sale to August.
- The Parity and MyEtherWallet articles say: "The PAY tokens will be released 48 to 72 hours after the token sale."
- The FAQ article says: "We are planning to have our token trade- and moveable by August 2017." The Foolproof Guide article says "You can then check your PAY tokens directly on the TenX website — you will only receive the PAY tokens into the wallet you sent it from once the PAY tokens start trading (which should be within 3–5 weeks)."
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OMG, one finally went through!
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Have people had success getting through with Parity? The error message never goes away but I keep on sending anyway.
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That's suspicious. The only ones that would buy SNM from HitBTC at that price is... HitBTC. |
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lately they do have ZrCoin too which isn't released yet. are they doing IOU for this SONM? after zrcoin was listed to hitbtc, the zrcoin team announced that the zrcoin on hitbtc were fake. this SONM from hitbtc must also be fake.
It is possible they're selling something they don't own yet, like a futures contract. |
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true! how come hitbtc already has snm where in fact the ico just started.
They buy during the ICO then sell IOUs. At least that was Patientory's explanation for how HitBTC traded them before the tokens were tradeable. Beware: PTOY tokens traded a lot higher on HitBTC than they opened on Liqui during real trading. |
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267.434.959 tokens sold out of 331.360.000 according to their site. 81%.
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So it sold out already? Wow, faster than BAT!  |
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Yes, thanks, there's some interesting stuff in that thread too that isn't intuitive and I didn't understand at first: ... here's the thing that catches most people because they don't realize how Bitcoins work, first of all, a tl;dr, "When you spend any amount of money, the money will probably no longer be in the same address".
Longer version:-
It's impossible to spend less than the amount you received in a previous transaction, but, obviously, the majority of the time you won't want to spend the exact amount of a TXIN (or multiple ones combined), so, what do you do? You send the amount you want to spend to the receiver, then, you send the remainder ('change') back to yourself, normally, on a different address, meaning the private key for the last address is now worthless.
Personally, I recommend Armory (Or any other client that uses a pre-saved seed to generate keys), as, it fights this by using a seed which you print off to generate all addresses, this means even if you receive money on an address after paying, or, send change to a new address, that printed wallet two-line long string still saves all your funds.
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I've heard of people losing bitcoin because they threw out a hard drive. And I've heard that you can control bitcoin with just a brain wallet (a memorized passphrase). Do you need just a passphrase, or do you also need a wallet.dat file (if you're not using an online wallet)? If someone could provide a simple explanation or point me to one I'd appreciate it.
A wallet holds one or more private keys. It does not hold bitcoins. Holding a private key allows you to send bitcoins from an address. A brain wallet is simply the case where you memorize a private key. In this case, your brain holds a private key so it is a wallet by definition -- a "brain" wallet. However, in this case you memorize a passphrase that is used to generate the private key and not the actual key. People lose bitcoins when they lose a wallet file because they haven't backed up the wallet file or the private keys that it contains. Please note that the passphrase used to unlock a wallet is simply the passphrase used to encrypt and decrypt the wallet file. It is not the same as a private key or a brain wallet pass phrase. Good answer, thanks. So, as I understand it, you only need the private key to send bitcoin from an address, whether that private key is stored on paper, in a wallet file, or in your brain. I was just reading the bitcoin wiki and it said that the address can be generated from the private key, so apparently you don't even need to store the address somewhere if you have the private key. |
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I've heard of people losing bitcoin because they threw out a hard drive. And I've heard that you can control bitcoin with just a brain wallet (a memorized passphrase). Do you need just a passphrase, or do you also need a wallet.dat file (if you're not using an online wallet)? If someone could provide a simple explanation or point me to one I'd appreciate it.
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Uruguay  And it's looking good! Weren't they previously talking about a Caribbean location? |
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