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1  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: selling drugs and money laundering: the potential downfall of bitcoin on: April 07, 2011, 10:50:35 PM
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I would suggest a test to show which group Nature favors.  A group of hard working farmers, and a group of LSD taking groupies. Give them exactly the same amount of land and starting implements.

What do the farmers work 24/7/365? LSD wont even continue to get you high if you take it more than twice a week, it builds a very strong short lasting tolerance. Twice a week is the most you are going to use LSD and get much effect from it, and even this is considered an extremely large amount of use. Most people who are 'users' of LSD (rather than people who just try it a few times in their life) take it once a month or so. More heavy users take it maybe once a week. Only the most heavy users of LSD take it twice a week.

So if the farmers take the weekends off....and the LSD users are the most heavy users in the world......I would say they will get the same amount of work done! On the weekend maybe the farmers listen to music and hang out with friends. On the weekend the LSD users take LSD and listen to music and hang out with friends. They get the same amount of work done, but the LSD users will enjoy the music more =).

Also testing for LSD use is not very feasible considering it requires sophisticated urine or blood analysis and all traces of use are 100% removed from the body in 24 hours or less.
2  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: selling drugs and money laundering: the potential downfall of bitcoin on: April 07, 2011, 10:43:56 PM
I do know one thing, we don't get to this future by everyone taking LSD, MJ, Alcohol, etc....  But I understand that people will want to try.

LSD is not addictive and the altered mind caused by LSD is not necessarily bad. If you going to take the drug, it's probably best to be monitored by doctors and other professional that know how to deal with it if you have a bad episode.

Not a bad idea but it is way over kill. LSD is an aplifier. It will amplify what you feel. If you take it in a good set and setting, chances of a bad trip are very slim. If you keep some benzodiazapines on hand you can terminate the mental aspect of the trip if you start to feel uncomfortable, or you could keep an antipsychotic on hand to terminate the entire trip. Trip sitters are a good idea, but you really do not need to be under medical supervision to take LSD. It is highly safe, the worst that will happen is a bad trip (very rare) that taking a small dose of xanax will terminate.
3  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: selling drugs and money laundering: the potential downfall of bitcoin on: April 07, 2011, 10:05:51 PM
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You need "help" to be introspective and philosophical, rather than just being able to do it yoursel

You need weights to build muscle? No, you could do push ups or sit ups! Why don't you build muscle by yourself? Do you need a hammer to pound a small nail into a wall? No, you could probably push it in. Do you need a vagina to orgasm? No you could just use your hands. Good for you if you are able to be introspective and philosophize by yourself. So am I! But I still use tools to help me. I am able to enjoy music by myself. But LSD and other drugs still make it sound much better. I am able to appreciate art by myself. Psychedelics still make it look better. I am even able to enjoy the world all by myself, but I still enjoy seeing things in super high definition every now and then. That is my favorite effect of LSD actually, the incredibly heightened senses. You wont even know what I am talking about unless you try it though. I compare it to the difference between standard definition television and high definition though. Everything in focus at once, everything super sharp, the finest details sticking out, the slightest difference in color between the smallest part of an object. Simply amazing! I actually can't do that by myself ;-).


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But assume you get some "bad" drugs and need hospital attention. Who should pay for your bill?  I think you should be wholly responsible. You apparently hate tax dollars, so you wouldn't take any of that money would you?

Of course you should be fully responsible. Also I would argue that all drugs are neutral considering they are inert powders. On the other hand, some drugs are also more prone to cause negative effects if they are over used. It is very very rare for a single use of any recreational drug to cause any significant long term effects, if used in proper dose and the purity is high.

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Yea, better get another dose, we are coming, we are coming. We are going to get you. We are watching.

I actually am not paranoid at all. It is nice to see that you believe the stereotypical image created by the propaganda masters, further showing that your opinions on drug use are not your own but have actually been implanted in your brain via corporate sponsored psychological operations.

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Color me stupid then, and like another stamp. For all I care, you can take all the LSD you want.

I plan to ! I also do color you stupid because you obviously talk about things you know nothing about just like a good useful idiot. How about you actually read about drugs from non-biased source of information? You have clearly obtained the majority of your drug knowledge from the government or the mainstream media or one of their various fronts.
 
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Irregardless of the "drug", nature seems to deal with excessive use or chemical addictive behavior in simple ways. It will destroy you.

Dependence means that you come to rely on object A for effect B. Many drugs can be dependence forming, just like anything else can be. Some drugs are more dependence forming than others. You may become physically dependent on heroin to prevent getting sick. Object heroin is required (depended upon) to prevent sickness (effect B). Soft drugs have less severe dependence related issues. You may become dependent on marijuana to be entertained. With out marijuana (object A) you feel bored (effect B), therefor you require (are dependent on) marijuana to be entertained. Not many people become dependent on soft drugs unless they have no other mechanism to achieve the desired effect to begin with. Also, many soft drugs, like all of the psychedelics save for maybe ketamine, cause dependency in only exceptionally rare cases. Usually psychedelics are 'enhancers' rather than 'replacers'.

No, drug use will not likely destroy you if you are responsible. Prohibition will destroy you. The government will destroy you for using drugs. Please stop spewing your hyperbole bullshit lest I mistake you for a government sockpuppet instead of a confused fool: www.motherboard.tv/2011/2/19/ones-zeros-021811-the-government-s-sockpuppet-army--2

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Now I am not saying taking a hit of MJ every-once in awhile will kill you, it is when a drug consumes you. When it changes your natural instincts for survival, you are on a road of destruction.

Smoking weed on a regular basis is not likely to have any serious negative effect on you, although it will minorly increase your risk of lung cancer and could act as a trigger for latent mental illness in less than 1% of the population (although this is still debated).

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And for someone that hates the Government and its Machine so much; Why LSD, a "Government created drug", to "control" you.
Wouldn't you be better off taking "shrooms" from cow shit.

LSD was not created by the government it was created by Albert Hofmann. LSD was outlawed in the 60's following the psychedelic revolution as a way to combat the hippie movement, which was actually quite counter cultural and anti-establishment. The paranoid CIA did not start to experiment with LSD for mind control until some time later. If you ever use LSD you will see that it is actually not effective at all at mind control but rather at freeing your mind from the information prison you are contained in.  The CIA had far more luck with MDMA as a truth serum because on MDMA you feel like everyone is your best friend in the whole world, including the nice CIA man who jammed it into you with a dart.

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And BTW can you read:  Do you think "tax" money should pay for people that take "drugs" so much and to a degree that they need to use "public" money?

I am fully against all taxation as it is theft.

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You seem to be in a kind of Catch-22 here;

If you say yes, you defeat your own argument.

If you say no, you agree with me, and you counter statement makes no sense.

Maybe, you should take another hit, and figure it out.


I am against taxation and against prohibition. I do agree with you, no taxation no prohibition. I am merely trying to enlighten you as it is painfully obvious that your mind has been poisoned with lies, and you are missing out on a life enhancing drug. If your eyes were sewn shut I would tell you as well, so you don't miss out on seeing.
4  Other / Archival / Re: Silk Road: anonymous marketplace. Feedback requested :) on: April 07, 2011, 10:11:56 AM
Oops, somebody forgot their whois privacy when they renewed their domain.
talk about amateur hour

Yeah it isn't like they could have I dunno. Loaded bitcoin with WU with a fake ID via an exchanger in Russia, sent it through a mix, cashed it out to pecunix, bounced it to liberty reserve through an online casino, cashed it out to an anonymous domain name registrar in some third world country through a different exchanger and have a random name with no tie to them in the Whois? Seriously do you think they are so retarded as to ever have their real name anywhere near the hosting or domain registration?

Second of all, oh no the FBI might get the hidden service!! Well that isn't very hard considering they could just add some nodes to the Tor network and open an infinite amount of circuits to the hidden service then send a pattern of modulated packets over the circuits until they detect that pattern going to the entry guard. Detect all of the entry guards and then compromise one to find the hidden service. Tor hidden services are better than nothing but they are not that anonymous, although clients are.

But the thing is why would the FBI do this attack to locate the hidden service (assuming they even can which is doubted since they are a bunch of noobs who can't even trace CP hidden services with the same attack) to locate a server that has nothing but asymmetric encrypted orders on it?HuhHuhHuh? Compromise of the hidden service, although not that difficult to do, is of close to zero benefit to an attacker.
5  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: selling drugs and money laundering: the potential downfall of bitcoin on: April 07, 2011, 09:13:27 AM
I'm not debating if drugs should be illegal or not. I think people should be able to ingest anything they want. Regardless of whether it should or shouldn't be illegal, it is illegal. The government you want to over throw could buy all 5 million bitcoins in existence without batting an eye, instantly destroying the network. Don't tempt them. If you want this to succeed you have to make it something the powerful people want a piece of, not something they want to crush.

I would agree with that as long as I don't pay for their stupidity.  If someone wants to drink acid, go for it. Just don't let public money or systems pay for their health care.


I'm not debating if drugs should be illegal or not. I think people should be able to ingest anything they want. Regardless of whether it should or shouldn't be illegal, it is illegal. The government you want to over throw could buy all 5 million bitcoins in existence without batting an eye, instantly destroying the network. Don't tempt them. If you want this to succeed you have to make it something the powerful people want a piece of, not something they want to crush.

I would agree with that as long as I don't pay for their stupidity.  If someone wants to drink acid, go for it. Just don't let public money or systems pay for their health care.



Brainwashed by government propaganda much? The overwhelming majority of drugs are tools to explore your mind. The second largest group are drugs to have fun that cause little to no negative effects and can also be used to get over problems like PTSD. Then there are also drugs to help you study and drugs to kill pain. Only a small number of illegal drugs cause significant negative effects and these drugs tend to only do so if used in large amounts over a significant period of time. I smoked crack once in my life. Didn't care for it, but it caused me no harm at all. I havn't tried heroin and don't plan to, but I am sure I could try it once. I tried meth a few times even, and then decided to stop. Although I do use some amphetamine very rarely to study. I am not a fan of hard drugs though and these days I only use tons of LSD. I have used LSD several hundred times and have never had a flashback or a bad trip, although I have had several amazing positive life changing experiences! Amazing that I have used oodles of softdrugs and even tried hard drugs a few times and I am perfectly healthy and I don't cost you any money or cause any problems! But I still have the fucking fascist police thugs to worry about throwing me in prison so they can use your stolen tax dollars to pay the private prison industry and benefit all the other corporations that benefit from this war.

Automatically assuming that using drugs = stupidity only shows that you are stupid. You automatically refuse to use any of these tools to expand your mind simply because you have been indoctrinated by government-coporate propaganda into thinking badly about them.

People who don't try drugs are really missing out, particularly psychedelics. It is like you are blind and so afraid of opening your eyes because you are told that it is so bad to see. But once you open your eyes there is no turning back =). Anymore than you would pluck your eyes out from your head. And the risks are so low. LSD is one of the safest drugs on earth!
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