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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: November 11, 2017, 03:17:06 PM
I Will not. What I will do is I will open businessess because that is where I can make sure that my money will grow instead of spending a lot of them to gambling. I think the reason why rich people still gambles because they have don't something to spend their time where they will feel their true purpose.
- Of course not, this is probably the best answer because gambling can turn a very wealthy person into a poor person in a moment, so if we have become rich and money is no longer a problem for us, we should seek out new joys and travel around the world with our families.
- I think most of our goals when we come to gambling are that we hope to have a richer life, and when we are rich, gambling is no longer valid for us, it's just a waste of time and money, so there is no reason for us to continue playing gambling unless we are a gambling addict
2  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: November 11, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
why so many people store their bitcoin in their wallet for a long time, whether the benefits will they get?

Come share your thoughts

I think the reason why people just store their bitcoin in their wallet is because they are waiting for the price of bitcoin to increase so that if they convert their bitcoin in their wallet, they can earn profit. Also, their bitcoin in their wallet is safe unless theres a hacker that hacked their account or they accidentally given their password to someone.
- Well, most of them have only one reason that is to wait for the price of bitcoin to rise higher and higher, when the price of bitcoin reaches at the highest price possible, they will sell to receive a huge profit margin, they always believe the price of bitcoin will always increase over time
- Although they have a belief in bitcoin is a good thing, but I think they have put too much faith and their time for the wait, the future of Bitcoin is still a big question, no one can predict, if they wait for a long time and luckily, they will have huge profits but if they are unlucky, they will waste a lot of time, so I think if someone is in this situation, they should have a plan to invest and optimize the profits, time is money, should not be wasted too much.
3  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: November 11, 2017, 02:45:36 PM
The price of bitcoin is falling down and i think that the price that is going to $50,000 will be on a delay and i think we should just wait for another rally and hope for the price to reach at least 1/4 of it and i believe that next year, it is really possible to happen if we will just believe in bitcoin.
- Yes, at present, the price of bitcoin is decreasing because some bad news and disadvantage for bitcoin, people have stopped pumping the price of bitcoin, however, this is only temporary, bitcoin needs more time to accumulate and return strongly, the next target of bitcoin is probably $ 10000
- $ 50000, I think this is a terrible number, however, in the past, many people never thought the price of bitcoin would be more than 7000 dollars but now it is true, that tells us that nothing is impossible with bitcoin, we just need to trust and wait, bitcoin will satisfy us but we will need to wait a very long time if we want to see the price of bitcoin reach $ 50000
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'll never stop buying Bitcoin on: November 11, 2017, 02:29:08 PM
Do not be greedy, man! You should set your clear target. We invest, we don't gamble. Good luck to you!
That is true. Every investors should set a target or limit on when they are going to stop investing and if they will hold it for a longer time or not. A good investor plan all the things first before investing and not just buying endlessly because that is not a good idea and it will just lead you for getting losses and in the future, you will not become successful because of the losses that you will get.
- Agree, we should set limits for ourselves, there should not be blind faith in bitcoin, although we know bitcoin is good but the price of bitcoin is gradually increasing, investing in bitcoin will be more risky, we buy more bitcoin at higher prices, our risk will also be higher, so we need a limit to us to stop before it's too late
- A good investor will always have a clear plan and a specific strategy, they never let emotion take control and make hasty decisions, they know when they should stop, when they should go forward. Personally, I stopped buying bitcoin for a long time because the price of the bitcoin is too expensive, and the risk is higher than ever, I do not want to take my money to bet.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: November 11, 2017, 02:14:01 PM
Guys I know that there are previous posts and polls regarding the highly suggested source of bitcoin but things always change do I want to know what is the current best source of bitcoin nowadays. Please participate on this poll and kindly tell us why that's your choice. Thanks in advance and God bless us more Wink

I think the best source of bitcoin nowadays is a signature campaign. In sig campaign there is a lot of people who get involve here because you don't need to take out your money. You don't need an investment for you to earn a lot. Also, signature campaign is the best way to earn a lot because it is trusted and legit.
- I think that's just the safest source, it's not the best source because the income from the signature campaign although it is quite good but it is also at a certain limit, in short, until one day, when our ranking reaches the highest level, the income from the campaign will be fixed, it does not have too much volatility
- The best source to earn bitcoin, I think it is trading although it is quite risky but the income can be said to be huge, if we have accurate predictions about the market. In addition, I also think that mining is also a good place to earn bitcoin but it depends a lot on our capital, and competition in this field is fierce, hopefully we should researched before joining this field
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people still play dice? on: November 10, 2017, 02:17:10 PM
In dice game there is no other play with more skills than you to defeat you. All you have is a dice which you need to roll and if results come in favor of you then you win. Another reason is that dicegames are provably fair so there are very less chances of cheating.
- Dice game is a game that does not require too much skill, everything we need to do is just click and bet, the results will appear in front of us in a moment, in short, dice games are simple, easy to play, easy to win and easy to lose, it is suitable for everyone, so people always choose dice game
- However, I want to say one thing dice game is not a fair game, cheating always happen to us, I believe that anybody here playing dice games also face a string of losses, casinos are watching and controlling all our gambling activities in the dice game, we can only play for fun, if we want to make some profit from the dice game, I think it will be very difficult.
7  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: November 10, 2017, 02:02:29 PM
Does anyone have any idea how many people are using gold as a store of value vs btc?  And how long do you think until we have the same user Base as holders of gold?

Now, holding gold is very safe I should say, you know that you will never lose your investment no matter how long you keep them, on the other hand, bitcoin cant give you that kind of assurance, but it can make tou a really big amount of profit in time, but the risk is very high and it may lose its high in a blink of an eye.
- I agree with you that holding gold is very safe and I can say that you will be getting long term profit with gold, however, profitability can be said to be very low because price of gold have been stabilized by governments around the world, it will not have too much fluctuation.
- Bitcoin has many other points with gold, the government can not control and manage the price of bitcoin, that makes Bitcoin have more volatile and gives us a very big source of profits, although it has huge risks, but if we've determined investing, risk is unavoidable and we need to take risks. Current, holding Bitcoin is better than gold, profits are huge, the purpose of investing is profit, there is no reason for us not to choose bitcoin
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you USE your BTC? on: November 10, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
Yes, I use my BTC on trade.Although sometimes BTC price is up and fall down.But I don't care.Because i don't follow BTC price in dollar.I always follow satoshi price.I don,t worry cause i know bitcoin price again increase.My county wasn't accept bitcoin.So my country shop and other place do not accept bitcoin.
- I also often use my bitcoin to trade, rarely I use my bitcoin for other things because I know the price of bitcoin will rise higher in the future, use my bitcoin right now for unnecessary things, that would waste a lot of my money in the future, I do not want to have any regrets in the future, so I always save and use bitcoin to trade, trading helps me earn more bitcoin
- My country is similar to your country, government banned the use Bitcoin as a payment method, if anyone violates this, they will be fined a lot of money, however, storage and use for trade is still allowed, I think they will soon remove this ban in the future when they see the value and potential of Bitcoin can help the economy
9  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Loss almost 40%, should stop trading or not ? on: November 09, 2017, 04:21:36 PM
Trading with btc - eth, I buy too high ( 0,082 ) and today I sell all on 0,077. Before that trade btc - ripple ( xrp ), make mistake buy 0,0002150 so today I sell with price 0,0001200. I decide to sell all because my patience is finish. I have loss almost 40% from my money, my question is simple ................. stop or continue?

No you should not stop trading, that would be the worst decision that you will make. How would you regain those 40% loss if you quit trading, you need to win back that money. Losing momey is just a part of being a trader, now you have learned some lessons sp you would not do it again next time. Trading gives a lot of profit it just needs a lot of patience in holding some coins because not all coins are successful especially those coins that are not that famous. But as time goes by the value of it will rise. So in order to get that money back just continue trading
This is correct which losing money is always been part of trading specially when we are still new on this field.We do commit mistakes since we do easily panic when we saw price decrease and as being adviced we should not give up to early because theres always a lesson on each mistake we do made just be sure that you would really do your best not to commit those mistakes again and it will really benefit you on your future trades.
- Yeah, loss is a normal thing in trading, every time we lose, it will be an experience and a lesson for us, help us succeed in the next trade, if the loss is too great, it will engrave in our minds and make us unforgettable, it will always remind and we will not make the same mistakes.
- And really if you lose nearly 40%, you should stop but it is only temporary for a short period of time, you should use that time to think about mistakes, analyze the reasons and keep your emotions calm, then return, continue trading, loss will not be too scary if you dare to face it, but if you do not overcome the fear of loss, you will never be able to succeed.
10  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining coins save or sell it? on: November 09, 2017, 04:06:59 PM
I think when mining is better the coin directly to sell if it's profitable, because we have to cover the operational costs of mining. because if saving then the price fall and you will be a loss.
 
- I think depending on the situation and our analysis, not when it's profitable, we should sell because sometimes if we wait, profits will be greater, we should analyze the news and market to make the most accurate decision, should not be too hasty
- Talk about the cost of maintaining the mining operations, I think right from the start, we should calculate about that before we start mining, should not invest in mining when we do not calculate the costs, that just makes us fall into bad situations
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: November 09, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Many cryptocurrency have tried and did their best just to replace bitcoin. But the thing is that bitcoin has a much stable foundation than theirs. If there are any crypto that can replace bitcoin i would believe it will be Ethereum.
- Bitcoin really still is a powerful monster, it never lost the appeal for investors, it always has a strong supporter community, and the potential is still too big in the future, want to replace it, this is not a simple thing, we will need to wait for a long time
- Many people say ETH will replace Bitcoin in the future but I think it is very difficult, Bitcoin is still too strong, however, technology will always grow every day, someday, a technology will grow stronger and replace bitcoin, but perhaps that will be a very distant future, hopefully we can see. Now, this is still the world with the domination of bitcoin
12  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: November 08, 2017, 04:50:29 PM
Loss is the bad thing and noone want it to show up. But the key thing is , if there is exist a winner so it must has a loser with it. So When you're losing , someone else is winning. So learn how to become that winner is the way to deal with loss.
Everyone wants to be the winner so who are the losers? Accept yourself as the loser and you will learn how to win.

In trading not everyday you will predict it right, just keep learning so you will be consistent and be professional in dealing
with your loses and always look at the bright side, when to quit you will not succeed so be strong and focus on your goal to be profitable in trading.

That's the main thing. You always have to have a positive attitude towards trasing whether you win or lose. Keeping your losses for a long time will shake your better judgement and thus may lead to ever more and bigger losses. If you can't stay positive, then stay away for a while
- Well, exactly, trading is a predictable game, no one can win forever, even the professional traders, they still fail regularly but the special thing is they always accept loss, accept failure, they never depressed, they are always looking for reasons they fail so they avoid similar mistakes
- And a positive attitude is essential for us to think clearly when we want to make the next decision. And if we had a good and calm state, we should determine that we should cut losses or continue to wait based on the analysis of the information around the coin we invest, loss is a normal thing in trading, do not worry too much and fear it, get used to it
13  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: November 08, 2017, 04:36:55 PM
Gold have history for more long time than Bitcoin and this is a real asset, not virtual and very rare. The value of Gold more stable than Bitcoin and this is the best choice for people who want to save money and don't have any risks about decreasing value.

- Although the value of gold is more stable than bitcoin and it is a real asset but the profitability of gold can bring is very low, it is no longer a potential place, in short I think investing in gold only helps us to be safe, profit is negligible, gold is only suitable for people who do not want too much risk in investing
- With people who want to have a better life, get richer and accept the risk in investing, Bitcoin will be the right choice and the best for them because profit of bitcoin can bring is huge, bitcoin is only growing, it still has a nice future waiting for it. Between gold and Bitcoin, I will choose Bitcoin, the purpose of investing is to make money, Bitcoin suitable for that purpose than gold, investment that is too safe and stable can not help me become rich
14  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: November 08, 2017, 04:22:42 PM
true plenty of times or case happen that banks are being close...one of the banks here in my country is being closed and my parents put their savings there   bad happen that it was close because of being bankrupt and until now they did not refund my parents..sometimes it is really hard to trust even big names of banks.
- Yeah, in some countries, banks are really unreliable, sometimes they will lock up accounts and then the money in our account disappears absurdly, and when we complain to them, they always delay in the settlement, we will need to wait a long time
- In my country, banks are not so good, every year there is always news that says a large amount of money in the bank accounts evaporate, then the bank declared bankruptcy, people did not get back the money, many people are living a good life but in just a moment, they become poorer than ever. I never trust and send money to the bank, I'm scared someday, my money will disappear without reason, I do not want to live in a state of anxiety every day
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: November 08, 2017, 04:08:47 PM
In long-term, it is never late to buy Bitcoin. But in this case, maybe Bitcoin price is so high now. If you wanna invest in BTC, you should wait after hard folk.
- Bitcoin is a good investment and the potential of bitcoin has not been fully exploited, in the future bitcoin can continue to increase prices, so it's not too late to buy bitcoin. However, the price of bitcoin is becoming more expensive and the risk is also higher, we will need a specific plan if we want to buy bitcoin.
- As you say, the price of bitcoin is now too high because people are accumulating a large amount of bitcoin before the fork occurs, so we should not buy at this time, we should buy after the fork occurs. Personally, I stopped buying bitcoin for so long because I felt I had accumulated enough, now that I just hold and use a little to engage in trading, my profits will grow over time.
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it risky to turn all my money to bitcoins? on: November 08, 2017, 03:49:11 PM
Absolutely. For all the reasons mentioned already. You never know what's behind the next door so you have to think if Bitcoin crashed tomorrow, would you be okay? Any investor will tell you to have a diverse portfolio.

that's right, everyone knows bitcoin has a high risk. so don't ever put all the money in one basket. Although it looks very profitable but we also have to think about a loss. because bitcoin price is not always increase.
 
- Agreed, the risk from bitcoin can be said to be huge and unpredictable, if we put all our money into bitcoin, we will fall into dangerous situations and can not know when risk will come to us, no one can be sure the price of bitcoin will always rise
- Although many people have always said, and predict the future of Bitcoin will grow and achieve a higher price than ever but these are just predictions based on historical data, there is no clear evidence that this will come true, so we always need to think about the worst situations and always keep some money to prevent this situation
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: November 07, 2017, 04:46:45 PM
Gambling cannot turn into profitable activity if you don't own a casino,gambling site or gambling place. If you are just a regular gambler its not possible because Im sure all your winnings will be use to gamble even more there will be no profits left if that the case.
I agree, actually it's impossible to make gambling as a profitable activity, In fact it was very difficult to do. If you're lucky enough you might be able to minimize the defeat as small as possible. But gambling is still not for making money but just to enjoy our free time and get fun with our money. So spend always small amounts to get these fun and if you want to make money then invest in some other businesses.
Right we can't make a stable income from gambling this is just for our time pass. here we only expect fun and entertainment apart from this if you expect money then surely you will lose your investment. You can't turn gambling into a profitable activity you want to earn money then stop gambling and try Trading or Investment.
- Yeah, the purpose of gambling is to give players entertaining and relaxing, not to make money, people really make money is the owner of casinos, if we turn it into a profitable operation, I do not think any casinos will open
- Because casinos will losses, they open casinos for business but they are not profitable, I believe they will not do that stupid thing, so really any casino, they are always cheating, we will not realize that, luck is not effective, casinos control all our activities. Casinos are just where to kill time, not where to make money, we should know that
18  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you see trading as fun and games? on: November 07, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
No, I treat tarding more seriously. We can't play with our hard earned coins, if we like doing so we can simply gambling, just for fun, with small amounts. But when dealing with trading we look for making money and earning usually.
- In short, trading not as a game, it is a very serious job and it involved a lot of money, and if we think it is a fun game, psychological will too comfortable, that just makes us easy to make mistakes and in trading, we just need a mistake, it can also make us fall into the worst situation
- I think people who look trading as a fun and game, they are just gamblers, they do not have the knowledge and experience about trading, that makes them think trading is a game based on luck and they do not need to be too serious with it. Sorry but if anyone has this thought, i believe they will soon lose all the money in trading, trading is a real job, not a game, it can not be fun if you can not make money and lose money
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How did you first hear about bitcoin? on: November 07, 2017, 03:51:34 PM
Are you a bitcoin fan?
Do you spend a lot of time on bitcoin? Reading news, trading, or even writing your own analysis.
But how did you first hear about bitcoin?
Is it some articles you read about? Or just from a friend who has traded bitcoin for a long time?

Share your experience with us. Grin
I know bitcoin thanks to a video on youtube. When I saw them holding a lot of money, they said that this is their results when investing in Bitcoin
Well I heard about bitcoin from one of my friend because he was using a bitcoin and he has change his life through bitcoin so I ask him how did you buy these things so he told me that he have a bitcoin so I ask him to teach me and since I join bitcoin my life is also changed and now I have everything which was a dream for me to buy.
- I do not have a great friend like your friend, I know bitcoin through online money making forums and groups on facebook, however people in my country are quite selfish, they never guide me too much, that makes the path leading me to the knowledge about bitcoin more difficult than ever, fortunately I have overcome that
- At present, my life is quite good with bitcoin, although I do not have a great friend but I am becoming a great friend when I guide my friend earn bitcoin, he is very grateful to me, sometimes I feel quite annoying because he asked a lot of questions, but I still try to answer, I believe that today I help him, the future he may be able to help me
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: regret by not believing in BITCOIN? on: November 07, 2017, 03:34:54 PM
who among you here heard bitcoin back in 2009 and 2010? I was one of the people who is very skeptical about it and I really regret it. Sad I missed the best opportunity for a lifetime.

actually not only you who missed this opportunity, many people who used to not take seriously about bitcoin, and now many who join bitcoin, there is no harm when you know bitcoin just chance not come for the 2nd time.
My regret about bitcoin is when i miss the chance to earn from it when i refuse to use it wayback 2015, because for the past year bitcoin is still unknown and mostly feedback i heard about it is negative. But now bitcoin is become popular and its value is increasing everytime.
- I think not only you, almost all of us here feel very regretful because do not believe in Bitcoin, if we believe in bitcoin sooner, I think we have become the new riches with bitcoin. Personally, I also miss many opportunities with bitcoin, I also regret but I also quickly recovered the spirit, this lesson helped me believe in bitcoin more than ever.
- Actually I know bitcoin is quite early but I constantly ignore it when I see the price of bitcoin increase sharply because I always think it is too late and too late, the result is I always regret and regret. With Bitcoin, nothing is too late, we should believe it although believing in bitcoin is quite late but I still quite satisfied with the current income from bitcoin, which has changed my life very clearly.
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