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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: January 02, 2017, 05:05:39 PM
Hello guys, project update, after several months of work I can finally give real data.
I begin the project with three months of real tests, day after day I have tried to improve the setting and tipsters selection.
Some data: in the last 45 days, 1092 betting, 5.49% gain.
Now I'm here because I need to reduce costs and Splite the subscription fee.
I can send the real results and also send a some tip for a trial period.
Please contact me on pro.tip.331 @ gmail. com
cheers
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: July 01, 2016, 05:01:46 PM
I worked some day to tipster selection and record analysis.

I put together the last year record (start on 15/01/01) of all selected tipster and I calculate the profit and the drawdown.

That is result :
PIKCS : 6463
PROFIT : 3082,69 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -149,9 UNITS

To simulate the delay or odds variation, I reduce the odds in this way :
- Odd<2 --> -0,10
- 2<odd<3 --> -0,15
- 3<odd<4 --> -0,20
- 4<odd<5 --> -0,30
- Odd>5 --> -0,50
That is because more high is odd and more changes are possible

That is result :
PROFIT : 1200,55 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -211,63 UNITS

Using an algorithm * for the equity control that filter the activity and reduce the drawdown
*personal algorithm that connect the activity and moving average

That is result :
For the original odds:
PROFIT : 3500,75 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -50,67 UNITS

For the reduced odds:
PROFIT : 1928,23 UNITS
DRAWDOWN MAX : -54,64 UNITS

Chart here :
The record, chart and analisys are avaible on this link : http://dropcanvas.com/f7o1e (spreadsheet)
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 30, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
Everything is trasparent. You can download the record of the selected tipsters!
And really you trust of site that you link more than verifed tipster of blogabet? mmh I'm not understand
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 30, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
Why do you say this mkr?? Huh
Maybe you should read well the entire thread, you will not give the money to me, so it will not be possible to scam you! And m0glie is a hero member and he makes the escrow...If you are interested you are welcome!
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 26, 2016, 08:20:44 PM
don't worry, before we start I will make some montecarlo simulations that will help to figure out some important information on bankroll management.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 26, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
Awesome! +1 ! waiting for others!
I think that a good number to start is around 15/20 people!
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 26, 2016, 02:55:13 PM
Yes, it seems a good idea and a good compromise.
I have only one doubt: how do the first 1/2 months? I can not anticipate everything.
Maybe you can collect the money and pay the tipsters, and I give to all the tips for the following month.
Doing it this way I can not scam you because I will never have the money! Easy and transparent.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 26, 2016, 02:34:17 PM
Guys, believe me, I think all of you are right, I also would have the same doubts!
However, the point is that I'm looking for partners because I can not afford to buy all the tipsters alone, but at the same time, the key of the project is to have so many tipster to diversify risk.
This is the record of the tips from 03/01/2015

http://dropcanvas.com/oq1ps (pdf)

This is the profit chart: blue with the original odds, in orange with odds reduced of 0.15 (this is a simulation of the possible delays or odds changes).



Trust me, I'm an Italian guy ... hmmm, no this is not actually a good point! Roll Eyes
However, the start-up period is the most critical, you have doubts but I can not start without you!
If it is ok for you that you have written, we are already in 8, that means plus or minus € 30 euro per head. Maybe, for the first 1 or 2 month, we can do a lean startup selecting 3 tipster and not 4.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 25, 2016, 09:16:31 PM
Yes man, you are absolute right! But I don't want sell anything, I don't have the tips. Actually, my purpose is a serious cooperation. The goal for every one is earn some money, my idea is reduce the risk of loss.
Ok, is not a new idea, no magic, but also not scam. Only a project, maybe we'll fail, maybe we can do it!
I can provide the last year bets record if you want. Cheers
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 25, 2016, 06:17:15 PM
That is an projection of how much we could earn during last year, with a 20 people group.
The subscription it would cost €15/month and we could earn :

€200/month with 3 € units value on bets.
€336/month with 5 € units value on bets.
€672/month with 10 € units value on bets.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 25, 2016, 01:23:41 PM
The group is growing. Someone else wants to participate?
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tipster project on: June 24, 2016, 06:42:04 PM
Please give more details. €250 sounds like a lot to me.

€250 is a sum of 4 tipster service and Yes, €250 it's a lot for me too! For that reason I want share the tipster subscription, in other words, I want create a group where every one pay the own part. If we are in 20 we pay €12,50 each one, if we are in 50 we pay 5€ etc.
How work?
I receive the tips and I send instantly the info to group with email, telegram, or something else.
I'm looking for partecipants!
what do you say?you join?
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Tipster project on: June 24, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
Hi international friends,
I want to start a tipster project, the idea is share a tipster subscription, reduce cost and diversify the investment.
This is the equity curve that result with 4 different tipster.


Profit: 1009,50 units
Max drawdown : 54 units


The total cost of tipster is 250 €, I want split the subscription, so more people mean less price.
I know, I'am a newby, but I need your trust for this  start up period.
Write me to f_leap@outlook.com for more details like tipster name, record, ecc.

Sorry for my bad english, I'm working on!

14  Local / Progetti / Progetto tipster on: June 24, 2016, 01:10:41 PM
Ciao a tutti,
vorrei presentarvi la mia idea legata al mondo del betting, so che da molti viene visto (giustamente) come un passatempo dispendioso, ma se ci si stacca da questa idea, il betting non è altro che un altro mercato dove si investe denaro per ottenere un profitto, non scopro di certo l'acqua calda.

E' chiaro che si ha a che fare con la matematica e che quindi i conti devono tornare (sia che ci si trovi contro un bookmaker, sia che ci si trovi in un gioco a somma zero contro altri giocatori), la buona notizia però è che si ha a che fare con eventi reali e tangibili e che quindi, con le giuste informazioni è possibile ottenere un vantaggio nel sistema, in altre parole, effettuare pronostici corretti.
Ora, esistono servizi tipster dove, cercando bene, è possibile trovare valore in mezzo ad un mare di fumo.

Per un investimento serio non è saggio affidare la propria sorte ad un solo tipster, ma è molto più razionale e conveniente diversificare il rischio fra più pronosticatori.
Chiaramente la qualità si paga, e in fase di avvio i costi non sono sostenibili, per questo motivo vorrei organizzare un gruppo per condividere l'iscrizione a servizi tipster, in modo da abbattere i costi e ottenere una buona diversificazione del rischio.

Per farvi un'idea di cosa intendo, ecco una proposta reale di quello che potrebbe essere :

Selezione tipster
Sono stati individuati 36 tipster

I criteri di selezione:
- Yield
- Drawdown
- Storico (tempo di attività)
- Profitti

E altre caratteristiche quali :

- stake utilizzato
- quota media
- live/pre live
- numero di pronostici
- prezzo abbonamento

Da 36 tipster, ne ho poi selezionati 4.

Ho scaricato lo storico, e ne ho estrapolato il grafico complessivo dell'ultimo anno e mezzo, per la precisione dal 1 marzo 2015.

Quanto si guadagna
Questo è risultato : 1009,50 unità
Max drawdown : 54 unità



Il contributo di ogni tipster è distribuito in questo modo :



Quanto costano gli abbonamenti
Il costo complessivo degli abbonamenti è di 221,00€

Come vengono inviati i pronostici?
Una volta distribuiti i pronostici vengono poi distribuiti via mail, skype e whatsapp.

Come e quanto si paga?
Più siamo e meno si spende. Si distribuisce il costo complessivo in parti uguali e ognuno paga la propria quota in anticipo. Posso raccogliere i soldi personalmente oppure è possibile utilizzare qualche servizio di colletta online, in modo che tutto sia trasparente.

Periodo di prova
Non tutti i 4 tipster offrono un periodo di prova, ma per iniziare possiamo sperimentare il meccanismo selezionando qualche tipster con free trial o gratuito.

Ovviamente i tipster possono essere rivisti e valutati insieme.

Spero di trovare qualche interessato, potete scrivermi qui oppure contattarmi a f_leap@outlook.com
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