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已投IPO，地址在签名，而且也PM作者了  must member. I am in, and already anded my signature. Thanks |
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come on guys,lets vote  |
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Dear Dev,
I'd like to join in but I'm not Member yet. So what will happen to those 'pending' accounts in your list? Will all be rejected?
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We have crossed 5000 votes in mintpal. Proud to cast the 5000th vote.  Lets get to 10000 now. come on guys,lets vote  |
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Pure PoS Coin? WoW,really nice idea. I think COMM would be better than peercoin. |
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If the powers that be wanted to stop bitcoin they would just buy a lot of hardware and do a simple 51% attack and be done with it.
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LOL, I love time travel investing schemes. Might as well buy lottery tickets if you are going to time travel, though. You'll get a better return, even after taxes.
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Everybody was pretty much right on this one.
what do you mean? are the banks now open? LOL, no, I mean everybody was right when they said that the banks opening wasn't going to directly effect the bitcoin markets all that much. |
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Everybody was pretty much right on this one.
The momentum continued, mostly unchanged after a bit of a dip over the weekend. We finally broke $80 US today, which we were hovering around for a while, so that was no huge surprise. There wasn't some ridiculously huge 50% spike in value when Cypriots all ran to spend their last Euro on bitcoins.
Moral of the story: Individuals in the speculation forum might be crazy, but if you poll opinions the wisdom of the crowd seems to be pretty good here.
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The argument I see Germans making is that Germans shouldn't have to bail out other people who work with the same monetary system as them because Germans aren't responsible for anybody but Germany. That is socialist nationalism. If the Cypriots were German then yeah, they would bail them out, but they are from Cyprus so the Germans won't bail them out. It is socialist, but only applying to people within Germany, which makes it nationalist as well.
No the argument is that Germans should not have to pay the profits people made by putting their money into (indirectly) into high risk investments. You understand the words high and risk, do you? Cyprus Banks paid outrages interest rates compared to other European banks. Due to their high risk investments and all depositors provided from this. Why should German Taxpayers pay this? Wow and the nazi club, did you came up with this all by yourself? Cause this is brilliant, seems to always work against Germans. Come on, I never called you a Nazi. That's ridiculous. As far as why you should pay, I'll reiterate: You formed a union with your neighbors to work within a single financial system and a single currency. You are all mismanaging it together so you should all pay together. Not only because you all caused the problem together (so you deserve to share the loss), but because if any of you go down you all go down. You don't have to like each other, you just have to keep each other afloat when things get bad. If you didn't want to pay for things like this then you should not have set up such an insane arrangement in the first place. |
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I would call it bitcoin fortune tellers.
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I really shouldn't feed the trolls, but I just can't resist. You are so stupid I simply can't ignore you. Check out the following definitions: Share HolderDepositorYou seem to be confusing these two terms. If the EU didn't want to bail out banks then they should allow them to fail, but they still need to pay what they owe to the people whose deposits they insured (there is some kind of deposit insurance in Europe, isn't there?). If you want to bail out banks then you need to bail them out and forget your idiotic, suicidal nationalism. In the US wealthy states like New Hampshire have been picking up the tab for poor states like Mississippi since forever. Yeah, they have cultural differences. Yeah, the people in New Hampshire and Mississippi might not like each other. That doesn't matter because we have one financial system. We aren't going to allow one state to fall because another state doesn't want to pay because they aren't from New Hampshire. Nobody would ever hold it against Mississippi that they are poor so they need more handouts from the Federal government. We understand contagion and externalities. Europe doesn't. The argument I see Germans making is that Germans shouldn't have to bail out other people who work with the same monetary system as them because Germans aren't responsible for anybody but Germany. That is socialist nationalism. If the Cypriots were German then yeah, they would bail them out, but they are from Cyprus so the Germans won't bail them out. It is socialist, but only applying to people within Germany, which makes it nationalist as well. If Europe can't act like a single financial system and if they want to keep holding these bailouts against countries who do not flourish under the management (or mismanagement) of the EU, and retaliating against each other by destroying each other's economies with austerity then fuck it, you all deserve the recession that is coming. I'm all for the EU working out and Europe prospering, but if it's not going to work then dissolve the EU and be done with it. Stretching it out by stealing people's pensions isn't going to help anybody. |
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Conclusion: What I did is just a precaution. The bank does not pay me anything for keeping my money. I lose nothing if I take it out. I will spend it in my business in approx. 3-4 weeks even if nothing happens. If everyone did the same, there would be same hell here as in Cyprus.
Are you saying that banks don't pay interest in Finland or that the interest is at or below the rate of inflation so the interest doesn't stop the real value of your savings from decreasing? |
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You people think the depositors deserve it? ROFLMAO, that's insane!  |
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So that's why the Kremlin didn't jump in to bail them out, LOL. They didn't have any assets left in the banks to protect.
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They are outright lying about the ISPs not sharing specific information. The 6 strikes rule the ISPs are currently enforcing, combined with Obama's cybersecurity executive order means that the ISPs will give the feds everything and I fully expect them to use this information to go after innocent people like they went after Aaron Swartz. Stay paranoid. Get a VPN, run BSD and use encryption. |
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I consider the belief in intrinsic value to be a form of magical thinking at best, or a self-serving strategy of inflating the exchange rate for gold at worst.
+1 for the self-serving strategy of inflating the exchange rate for gold. |
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STOP THE FUD! You are making a lot of people believe something that is not real... if Cyprus bank issue will have an impact in bitcoin it will be long term... years will pass first before big herds come and use bitcoin as a bank.
I didn't mean to spread FUD at all. I was interested in seeing what the community here thought about what would happen when the Cypriot banks open. When the Cyprus situation blew up last week, before we knew the banks would be closed for so long, I remember a lot of posts on the bitcoin subreddit saying "it will be interesting to see what happens when the banks reopen," then the price shot up another $20 US or so over the next few days. Add to that the mainstream press discovering bitcoin and saying that Cyprus is driving the bitcoin boom and well... this seems like it might be a useful conversation to have. Me, I'm new to this and I'm still wrapping my head around how the market moves. I can't forecast this at all, but I'm guessing that other people here can. If anything this thread is removing some FUD. I don't see a single person here saying that they expect everybody in Cyprus to convert fully to bitcoin and drive the price up over $100 US in a day or two. That makes sense to me, because I wasn't really buying the whole Cyprus is driving all the gains story either. Like I said, though, I'm new, so I'm not really in a good position to forecast. Full disclosure: I own no bitcoins, bitcoin derivatives or cryptocurrency assets at all right now. Today I plan to make a Linux partition with TrueCrypt, install the software and buy some BTC in order to buy VPN service with bitcoin because my current VPN provider is not that great, but I don't plan to invest until I've watched the volatility recede and have a deeper understanding of what I'm buying. |
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