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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John Mcafee on: January 23, 2019, 12:05:13 AM
He’s a noisemaker. Nothing more.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: April 02, 2018, 04:40:49 AM
Well I believe DeepOnion is technically way better than all other privacy coins. Lots of unique features, constant development and improvement with wallet software updates coming out on a regular basis. Lots of communication from the team.  Yes, this coin has a premine but these are distributed to the community by airdrop to the ones who are willing to participate. This was clear from the beginning. There are tons of coins out there with a premine.

I don't think this is a scam at all.  I think 95% of all ICO's, if not all of them are the real scams. Most ICO's have nothing more than a token that does nothing really. A token that is used simply for collecting money from people that will start speculating on a rise of price of the token when a company tweets that they are announcing an announcement that will happen in the near future.

So a unique coin with a massive community, that is totally private, that you can mine and/or stake with it's own blockchain is worth way more than a simple ERC20 token that you cannot mine or do anything else with. Today there are a total of 48178 Erc20 Token contracts according to Etherscan.io

So no, DeepOnion I think is NOT A SCAM, but hey that's my opinion. I'm collecting this one. After the airdrop period ends this coin will be allowed to be listed on the bigger exchanges since most exchanges never list coins in airdrop-phase because of changing circulation of coins. I hope this coin will do well this year. We will find out. I'm excited for this one

It's not a privacy coin.  It has zero privacy features.  How could it be better than any actual privacy coin?
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: January 07, 2018, 04:05:23 AM
Well, that whitepaper is just a list of options other coins implemented. It does not include anything that they may consider to implement, or worse, what they eventually would understand. It's just a piece of nicely formatted marketing rubbish.
The whitepaper you keep referring to is the alpha version, so we can expect it to improve until the final release. Smiley

Why bother writing a whitepaper?  There's been no development in the last 20 weeks, why would there be any in the future?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: January 07, 2018, 04:04:43 AM
I dedicate this to MadMac, Other Trolls, Conspirators and Bystanders watching this thread:

When both NEM and Ethereum were babies, people cried foul just like in this thread. Especially for NEM, and it turned out the original creator of NEM actually even abandoned the project, after it was found out he had claimed several NemStakes. Nem back then had nothing to it, but just a wall of text and egalitarian principal, which sounded pretty nice at the time.

Ethereum relatively the same, they had no working platform at the time of their ICO, and we all cried foul towards it. Little does anyone know, but Ethereum was actually endorsed by Goldman, or they had some type of direct involvement with it. (i won't get too much more into that, you can do some major digging with this claim).

Now, ETH i was like you boys, i cried foul and made several remarks about it.

Comes years later ( i had 3 NEMStakes btw), NEM became a legit platform and ETH is bigger than i could of ever expected.

Multi-million lessons were learned out of ETH, i invested 5btc into Syscoin, instead of ETH (which turned out to be a scam through the whole MOOLAH incident), Syscoin isn't a scam itself, their escrow was though (Moolah).



Part II

While DO may have some shady shit, you're just picking on it because it's an airdrop coin and you probably missed the boat/got banned by their highly eforced staff, which i condone, because it makes shitheads like MadMac and others.

DeepOnion isn't a technically advanced coin, and may as well be ran by amateurs (who are now millionaires that can't cash out due to volume), and that's why they will continually work towards building a coin. DeepOnion isn't the best coin, but it isn't a scam or even bad. Shittier coins have been bigger than this, and i don't see you cunts roaming those forums. There are coins out there so fucking scammy and so not-legitmate, DO is a saint compared to that shit.

Don't come to these forums preaching a philosophy about "scams and pyramids" because guess what cunts, 99% of all coins behave in exactly the same fashion. Deny or it not, this is the hard truth. Crypto is about making money, this forum is about making money, sometimes you braindead retards lose sight of that, or utter fucking hypocrites or trolls (that's ok too, i like trolls). Sometimes i see these trolls promoting the shittiest coins imaginable, just look at peoples profiles whenever you disagree with what they say.

I know you like to troll and attack easy targets, fine, i get that. Not telling you to stop trolling, because you will breed a stronger DO coin.


Despite all this,  I really really fucking doubt the creators of DO will do anything to harm it. Their money is at stake, and yeah they do work pretty hard on it. DeepOnion has the biggest potential out of any coin upcoming (aside from 1-2 which i'm not going to name, i need to build a position on them asap). But certainly the best non-ICO coin to launch since NEM itself. I do believe that, because i became active on these forums again directly as a consequence form seeing DeepOnion, i was impressed by this airdropcoin. I haven't seen anything like it since NEM, and i still haven't seen any airdrop coin come close, funny thing is, a lot of those scam ICO'S and shitty airdrops are worth more than DO and they were real tangible scams or infinitely more shady then DO.

In summary, don't listen to people who cry foul without any proof or basis. There are a great many claims, and yeah sure some are true in regards to how the team operates, but DO isn't a scam, and the developers are looking for the long-term to cashout millions. That's the great cycle of all coins, every dev hopes to cash out their money at one point or another, or else they wouldn't have started in the first place.

I wrote this to educate anyone watching this thread now or in the future about any coin, and mistakes i've made myself.. particularly with not investing those 5 BTC in Eth during the ICO because i was blinded by what other people were saying, and didn't research it myself well enough.



I was not endorsed or apart of DO's shitty dominate shit, i don't sacrifice my personal dignity for 2 coins like some of you fags do

Who "works hard on it"?  There's nobody doing anything but marketing on this coin, and that only in the hope of getting accepted to the "airdrop" that they exclude everyone but their friends an sockpuppets from.

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DeepOnion Spamming on Forums and Social Media on: January 07, 2018, 03:55:27 AM
Well, maybe it's part of their strategy for their marketing if they find it more effective than usual way of advertising then why you're bothered? It's their business so if you hate it just move on otherwise just get on with it
There's a lot of cryptocurrencies today with different ways to promote their coin or ICO to attract investors and I think that's normal.

You're not getting the point here, they are focusing on MARKETING and not on coin development. What has this coin brought into the table yet? Privacy via TOR? XVG done that already. Both are pieces of shit lol


Well, tor isn't private.  XVG has some other tech also, but Onion is definitely a scam.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 29, 2017, 02:23:17 AM
All Cryptos are ponzis.  Heck the stock market is too. What's wrong with that?  We like people paying more than we did.  Gold bugs are always pumping their metal trying to get buyers.   Musical chairs are fun!  Enjoy the ride!

That is probably the best comment of this whole thread Smiley))
For a matter of accuracy you could have mentioned also the whole FIAT monetary system as the Father of ALL Ponzi schemes.

It's the dumbest post of this whole thread, that's for sure.

7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 29, 2017, 02:22:08 AM
When we see >100 Mio Market Cap than I want to see MadMacs face Tongue

New Woo Plugin in implemented. DO commerce link, to integrate DO as payment method. We dominate!

lulz.  Which coin did you copy it from?
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: {DeepOnion?} (Merry Xmas) Deep-Sh^t $20M Credits Air Drop Do Not Miss This One! on: December 24, 2017, 03:22:18 PM
lol
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 24, 2017, 03:19:21 PM
As a part-time observer, I thought DeepOnion had a huge amount of community support, thanks for showing me the other side.
It absolutely has, no doubt. One of the strongest community in crypto. Can only think about Steemit somewhat comparable, but they play in a higher league.

Problem with DO is not the community but the shady business behind. It has technically none of the features it is advertising, there are no developers (ok they hired one for Android now), but graphic designers, and the only guy that pretends to be is crypto-rainbow. A chinese scammer. And 18 million of premined coins to be dumped.

So short term money, based on community support, sure. It's a gamble as all Ponzi are. Long term? Absolutely not.

Again please show the arguments that support yous statements, as long as you just claim this without any further information, you are the scamer type of person. I asked this so often in this thread! Please bring the facts on the table, but you never did!

Anyone following the project for any length of time knows what he's saying is true, it's your own statements throughout.  There's nothing to prove, it's all proven by your own comments. 
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: December 23, 2017, 04:46:54 PM
IOTA may be the next big thing in the year 2018 but it has a potential of being a disappointment for 2018.

Its tangle technology is good for theory but it is brand new, moreover it is not tested comparing blockchain and it does not still have a working wallet.

It can increase huge but it has a high risk also

It will be the next big thing. Every crytopgrapher analysis I've read agrees. Tangle theory isn't that new and things are moving fast as it's been worked on all the time, for example they just released a new version of their wallet on github a few hours ago: https://github.com/iotaledger/wallet/releases/tag/v2.5.6

Guess we will leave for the moon without you?

You haven't read much analysis then.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: December 22, 2017, 11:13:07 PM
@Joshki you can wait for this https://blog.iota.org/iota-foundation-hires-cybercrypt-615d2df79001 if you can't trust the iota mathematicians, but then what will you do? I suggest you start researching more fud.

I don't know what you think I'm waiting for -- I won't invest a dime in this.  It makes no sense to play this game -- it's a fundamentally broken coin based on a broken concept. 
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: December 22, 2017, 10:03:32 PM

Is there anyone that does not believe using purposefully broken crypto (that may or may not have been written by an AI, LOL), in order to create a backdoor in the code is stupid and antithetical to the ideals of open source?

I find it really odd that these people continue to make this claim and pretend it's okay to do this.  It's not. 

And if this guy honestly believes he can argue cryptanalysis with MIT, well. 

It's not MIT, it's a group that uses the MIT banner to fool idiots like you into making a logical fallacy--IE using authority instead actual facts or solid argumentation. The same tactic was used to attack Monero. You should probably put in some time researching. You can start with ComeFromBeyond's response, then you can move onto  autonomous vehicles and other things that are just a google search away.
I read the response.  There's nothing to research, it's a bunch of handwaving, none of which actually addresses the real issues brought up by real cryptographers. 

It's astonishing to me iota maintains this rabid cult following, because there's literally nothing to back up anything they claim. 

Talk about hand wavey--the guy invents POS and you think he's the one whose credentials should be checked?

IOTA has mathmeticians on hand as well, so much for you research (are you ever gone to bother to fact check?)

http://untangled.world/iota-founders/

Feel free to bring up any concerns on stack exchange, you won't even need to use math.

https://iota.stackexchange.com/


Inventing POS doesn't mean you're qualified to let an AI make up a hash function to use in cryptocurrency.  A broken one, at that, and one you know is broken and use anyway.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: December 22, 2017, 07:34:51 PM

Is there anyone that does not believe using purposefully broken crypto (that may or may not have been written by an AI, LOL), in order to create a backdoor in the code is stupid and antithetical to the ideals of open source?

I find it really odd that these people continue to make this claim and pretend it's okay to do this.  It's not. 

And if this guy honestly believes he can argue cryptanalysis with MIT, well. 

It's not MIT, it's a group that uses the MIT banner to fool idiots like you into making a logical fallacy--IE using authority instead actual facts or solid argumentation. The same tactic was used to attack Monero. You should probably put in some time researching. You can start with ComeFromBeyond's response, then you can move onto  autonomous vehicles and other things that are just a google search away.
I read the response.  There's nothing to research, it's a bunch of handwaving, none of which actually addresses the real issues brought up by real cryptographers. 

It's astonishing to me iota maintains this rabid cult following, because there's literally nothing to back up anything they claim. 
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: December 22, 2017, 05:42:17 PM

Is there anyone that does not believe using purposefully broken crypto (that may or may not have been written by an AI, LOL), in order to create a backdoor in the code is stupid and antithetical to the ideals of open source?

I find it really odd that these people continue to make this claim and pretend it's okay to do this.  It's not.  

And if this guy honestly believes he can argue cryptanalysis with MIT, well. 
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: December 22, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
https://www.media.mit.edu/posts/iota-response/
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: December 22, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
Its tangle can resolve the scaling problem and it has great collaboration with huge companies. Maybe in the future it will support something like DeepOnion deepvault and let us save file on the tangle.this coin future bright

lol
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 21, 2017, 02:12:34 PM
At this point also you are thinking its a scam?
So pathetic. On 2009 everyone told the same about btc. Now?

This is not bitcoin we're talking about.  Satoshi didn't just copy somebody else's codebase and pretend it was his. 
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 21, 2017, 01:56:17 PM
Here's the latest news I just received.

The forum moderators (!) write the white paper for DO. Read it again, no joke. The moderators write the white paper for that super anonymous coin that is so secret, nobody really sees that it does nothing what it says it does. Not a surprise, as there is no developer who would be the one to write a white paper before any of the bubbles bubble.

Instead they made professional rap song  Huh Grin

Have you ever stopped to consider that some of the forum moderators are also developers for the project? Further, there is nothing that DeepOnion says it can do currently, that it can't. There are additional features currently being developed, but they aren't done yet. Don't confuse those features with the ones that are already finished (and work perfectly).

Read the roadmap if you have any confusion on what features are currently available and what is under development.

So far, they have done a good job of staying on schedule and following the roadmap.

You mean, of course, other than not being an anonymous coin when it pretends to be. 

There aren't any developers for the project, and there aren't any features.  The only "feature" that might have been worth anything if it were not just a copy from another coin (which it turns out it is) was DeepSend, which you've pushed out of the near term roadmap because you don't even have anyone who can figure out how to copy it properly.

19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 21, 2017, 03:44:32 AM
It's fascinating seeing both sides of the fence. I'm an advocate for projects that stand for something and many close minded people don't see the future of DeepOnion which is fine.
Stand for something? Yes, you know have some meaning rather than just make you a financial gain overnight. There are many technological aspects that you may be missing out on but it's not my concern to bicker back and fourth with someone who is set to their opinion. Plus why would you take any advice from anyone on the internet, do your own due diligence.

You can agree to disagree about our stance on DeepOnion but besides this thread on this forum what are you accomplishing? Wasting your time and energy into something you can't change no matter how hard you try..

Just sit back grab a cup of your fav Whisky and take it like a man (or whatever you may consider yourself for that matter).

 -- A week from now come back and quote me to see if there has been any advancement.

Till then, enjoy!

It's been 22 weeks and there's been no advancement, and it was a clonecoin to begin with.  What are you trying to argue?
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tezos discussion on: December 20, 2017, 09:43:08 PM
If you guys want to help Tezos and accelerate the process. Sign this petition for the removal of Gevers, the bad guy that is slowing things down in Tezos Foundation.

http://www.tezos.help/community-statement.html

Source: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/fourth-class-action_lawsuit-seeks-freezing-of-tezos-foundation-assets/43757494

who is this guy?

Someone trying to save the project

Seems both sides think the other is doing wrong, I do however tend to agree with you that Gevers is trying to do what is right as is his job.

You're totally wrong, Gevers is a big clog in the wheels that has been dragging this project launch backwards. Join Tezos live chat on riot matrix and you will understand better

I think it is the Breitmans that are dragging this project down, they are trying to control everything and enrich themselves at the cost of all the ICO investors instead of working with the foundation as was intended from the start.

What, precisely, are they doing to "enrich themselves" -- be specific, I'd like to see how paying for all the development out of their own pockets is enriching themselves, because that seems to me to be the opposite.

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