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Awesome. Thanks for that lead and feedback. |
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Anyone selling either coffee or Tea for Bitcoin in UK or Europe?
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is the 0.01 promotion still running?
Hey Panj, it is not.  Thanks for asking. |
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Renewing warning against storing private keys in Blockchain Wallet. Rob at Gli.ph claims their API generated a new address/private key when I first linked it to Blockchain (with whitelisted IP), but that address ( https://blockchain.info/address/1EKqFXn3UmaZaJP5swqCUm3mbpdp63VhwR) never showed up, so I couldn't have deleted it, by accident (an 8 step process) or otherwise. He swears up and down that it's working correctly, but clearly it isn't, if private keys are ever getting erased without the possibility of user input. Hey there, As I mentioned in the few hours we've worked together over the past two days trouble shoot this, I'm sorry we weren't able to work this out or trace exactly what happened with the first .001 I sent to you over Gliph. I understand that not everyone out there has the best experience with Blockchain.info or even Coinbase. We generally recommend people use Coinbase with Gliph at this point. We understand that not everyone feels comfortable with either service's use of private keys and that the way Gliph works with Bitcoin may not suit every Bitcoin user. I recognize that 2FA is a requirement for some folks, and while we don't support that for sending, we do support that for receipt of Payment in Marketplace on both wallet services. I think it is reasonably important to say that I was able to successfully send Bitcoin to your attached blockchain account, and while you offered to return it, I said you were welcome to keep it. I also want to clarify that we have not had a problem reported similar to this yet, which makes it hard to reproduce. I am sorry we weren't able to make Gliph Marketplace work for you. If other folks are considering listing in Gliph Marketplace we'd love to have you give it a shot. It is just two weeks old and we're continuing to improve it over time. |
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Hey folks, We've just got some beautiful handmade wood beardcombs into the Gliph Marketplace. These combs are shipped directly from where they are made in Ukraine. Here are the two items: - Lunar Beard Comb - The Wave Beard CombI personally recruited this seller because the quality is high and they are reasonably priced. We'd totally appreciate support from the Bitcoin Talk community in making this seller welcome to selling in BTC. We'd also appreciate the community's support of our work to build this Bitcoin-focused Marketplace. Buying with Bitcoin is easy, just set up your account and attach either a Coinbase or Blockchain wallet. If you don't normally like to use these services, you can hold just enough to make the purchase and otherwise leave it be. We do not support URI / QR codes for purchases in the marketplace at this time. We have a bunch of other great items, so I invite you to log in on your phone using the iPhone or Android app or on the Desktop Web and check them our. Rob  |
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Hey BTCtalk peeps, We released version 2.0 of iPhone app (with Gliph Marketplace today). It has a bunch of improvements from the 1.x versions. You can read about the update in our blog entry here.  |
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That is a nice piece. Thank you for listing it! Other BitcoinTalk folks who are interested, feel free to PM me. |
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Hey Bitcointalk, Today we released the first version of Gliph Marketplace, a new way to buy and sell using cash or Bitcoin. This is the easiest way to close a deal P2P using bitcoin yet. Our team has brought together secure messaging, transaction workflow and digital payments into an awesome new P2P transaction experience we call Deal Flow. - Deal Flow helps you stay focused on completing a deal by integrating messaging and useful push notifications into the buying and selling experience. Gliph Marketplace has privacy built-in eliminating the distraction of “burner” phone numbers and “email gateways.”
- Deal Flow saves you time with intuitive listing status updates. For example, when someone is ready to buy something from you, the status moves from “Q&A” to “Offer Submitted.” Deal status updates ensure you have the most recent information so you can make the best decision with your time.
- Deal Flow earns you money faster by making digital payments an integrated part of the Gliph Marketplace experience. Once you’ve accepted an offer, paying for the item using Bitcoin is handled in a single tap.
Watch the promo video here. |
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Hey Bitcoin Talk, For folks celebrating Thanksgiving this week, I put together a little guide for talking about Bitcoin at a family gathering. While Thanksgiving is a time for appreciating what we have and being with loved ones, it is also a time where ideas are shared. I thought you all might enjoy the whimsical image of a turkey holding a Bitcoin we put together. It is original / combined with a royalty free image, so you are all welcome to use it elsewhere. If you feel like it, you are welcome to upvote the reddit post for the blog entry.  Apart from giving thanks for all of the positive things we’ve experienced this year, Thanksgiving is a common time for sharing ideas.
With the holiday near, we thought it might be helpful to provide tools for communicating the promise of Bitcoin with your friends and family.
The following tips are meant to help an experienced Bitcoin person have a more thoughtful discussion with loved ones about the technology. While these tips are focused on Thanksgiving, they may also be useful to people around the globe at any holiday gathering.
0. Don’t Let Bitcoin Gobble up the Holiday
While this guide is meant to help you introduce Bitcoin around Thanksgiving, remember that this holiday is an unusual opportunity to share in the lives of your close and extended family.
1. Downplay Your Enthusiasm and Expertise for Bitcoin
No matter what the idea is, people need time to adjust to new information. Even if your family knows you to be a Bitcoin enthusiast, and you read /r/bitcoin every day, downplaying your expertise (and belief Bitcoin’s importance) will allow everyone to join in the feeling of wonder over the course of discussion.
2. Listen First
The topic of Bitcoin commonly receives a bi-polar response. Some praise Bitcoin and others are starkly concerned. More common than either of these reactions is confusion. The word “Bitcoin” is known to many, but most people know almost nothing about it.
When someone asks for your opinion on Bitcoin, begin by asking how they feel about it. If you take some time to understand what they know, including misperceptions, it will allow you to respond in a way that gives you the best opportunity to be understood.
3. Avoid the Details
Given how quickly discussions can change, focus on Bitcoin’s high-level points first. (For example, see the Why section of the Bitcoin wiki) If you lead off with Side Chains, Smart Contracts or the recent pivoting of the Bitcoin Foundation you’re going to hear “pass the cranberry sauce” before you can share important basics. There are 4 more tips in the blog entry here. Rob ps. Unrelated to this, Gliph has something pretty darn cool coming in December. I'll of course post when I have more to share! |
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I am very sorry to see the symbols go  It was one of the major things what set Gliph apart from any other chat app I know. Was there no way to keep them alongside the "new" way? Hey Newar, Thanks for noticing and posting this reply here. To answer your question, we are keeping the "Legacy" symbol-based usernames available with the same use cases as before. You can use the old username you have to: Login, Reset your password (if you have not disabled PW reset on your account), Be found in the Gliph system using Add Connection, and even Added to a Group. So your old username still works, and in fact you can choose not to get a new username if you want. We wanted our existing users to be able to keep things the way they are if they want. All of this is outlined in the blog post on Gliph's username update here. That said, we have what we believe to be very good reasons for transitioning away from the old username system. I'm going to quote our blog post here for convenience: As regular users of Gliph ourselves, we have found the Gliph Legacy usernames have not become easier to use over time. Though stylistically unique, Gliph Legacy usernames got in the way of the experience in a few ways.
First, people from the Gliph community told us they like the service but find it too hard to connect with other people. A basic function is being able to look up another person in the system and the symbols added friction to that process.
Sometimes when the symbol-usernames were shown in a public group conversation, it was challenging to track who was who. An emerging problem with Gliph Legacy usernames is that they don’t store well in password management tools like 1Password.
The symbol-based usernames were a daring and interesting way to stand out for a company championing privacy and security before people were paying attention to these things.
Privacy and security are still top priorities with us, but Gliph is bigger than those two things. Gliph now helps people connect and transact with each other using Bitcoin. We want the focus here, not on a novel username system.
Moving to alphanumeric usernames simplifies the Gliph platform without sacrificing pseudonymity. You don’t have to remember the symbols that your friend chose or find them on our symbol keyboard. You just need to know their unique written username and type it in. We have some exciting things related to Bitcoin that we are working on, I hope what you feel we lost in the uniqueness of the symbol usernames will be more than made up for in increased practicality, usability and sheer joy from using Gliph. I implore you: stay tuned. rob |
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Hey BitcoinTalk, We released some cool new stuff today: 0. We added a completely new Desktop Web app to use with gliph. Here's the promo video showing it off:  1. We brought bitcoin back to Gliph in the App Store. Now you can send Bitcoin to other Gliph users and also using a QR code scanner. 2. We added secure Group Messaging. Please see previous posts in thread to go over in detail how we handle security and our views on open source. 3. We have a totally revamped Android Application. It is now basically parity with iOS (no PIN lock on it) Uniquely, Gliph hooks up to both Coinbase and Blockchain.info wallets. It allows super easy p2p transfers (between Gliph users) and spending outside Gliph using QR codes. rob edit: typo |
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Hi Rob, it was me.
Thanks for coming forward as a person. The post had nothing to do with perceived competition; I also don't consider you competitive. Great. Then this is an intellectual discussion and we can steer clear of attacks and simply disagree on specific things if necessary. I wrote what I wrote because it seems highly irresponsible to market something as "secure and private" when it is impossible to audit the source—we're in the post-Snowden era here, are we not? I don't mean to pick on you guys in particular, you seem like a nice, well-intentioned bunch. But if you truly care about privacy and security, then I don't see how you can disagree with my premise. The old way of doing things has had its day. The lynchpin of these conversations is usually in the individual interpretation of the word "secure." To clarify, your premise is the word 'secure' may only be used if the source is open, correct? As I've mentioned, for some folks, that means they can view the source, or the source is available for someone you trust to consult. We're all for these folks and point them to use OTR messaging and PGP. These kind of people often are ok dealing with the UX downfalls and limitations of these systems. Most folks don't compile Linux for themselves. So they do treat OS X or their (hopefully) updated copy of Windows as offering security and privacy. I think they have good reason to feel that way, particularly with iOS--even though that is closed source. I will continue to encourage you to re-think this strategy. The feedback has been received, thank you. Can you explain to me why "startup" and "open source" are at odds? I don't really follow. I won't do nearly as good of a job as dreeves has in compiling Yehunda Katz and AParecki's considerations in this HN thread.Costs of open sourcing your startup: 1. Reviewing all of the code that you want to open source for secrets that could compromise security.
2. Improving parts of the code that are embarrassing or too coupled to infrastructure that isn't going to be made open source.
3. Additional communication overhead for communicating with the open source community so that contributors don't do work that you're already working on.
4. Time spent triaging and working with features that may not have been high internal priorities (or risk pissing off the open source ecosystem).
5. A general willingness to cede control over the precise direction and priorities to a larger group of open source people.
Aaron Parecki adds:
6. Support costs of helping people get their dev environments set up.
But Yehuda, obviously, is in favor of open-sourcing as long as you understand those costs, and lists these advantages, most of which the article also notes:
1. Gaining additional contributions from open sourcers that would have been expensive or technically impossible to do in-house.
2. A vibrant community of people that are interested in the product, its direction, and are knowledgeable in the implementation.
3. People willing to do cleanup work in order to become familiar with the project and become contributors.
4. Getting insight into product direction by people willing to put their money where their mouth is and dedicate time to implementation (this is the flip side of some of the negative above).
5. A recruitment pool that is already familiar with the product and its implementation.
I'd add to that a security audit in advance of open sourcing the project to protect existing users. Depending on the project size and age, all that may be low cost. It may even be a cost you're happy to deal with if you feel it is a major value proposition to the audience you're after. A few more reasons: - Gliph's iOS app is completely native, and largely front-end UI (where heavy lifting is done by servers) Objective-C is complex code that is original and valuable and not something we want easily copied by competitors. - Server-side, we do incorporate open source libraries, however the great majority of Gliph platform is original software . The web application is complex, powerful and valuable intellectual property that we have worked very hard on for years. While our goal is to make a big contribution to society, Gliph is not a charity. - The Coinbase and Blockchain API's have undocumented peculiarities that we have learned with great pain over time. At this point, it is up to other startups to also figure these issues out to be competitive in this space. But the number one reason right now is that I personally do not think most regular internet users can explain what it means for software to be open source, let alone how software is built. They just want to be able to get things done. They want reasonable security and privacy precautions taken without the details. We take care of that for them. Our users do not write in to us ask for open source code, they write in asking for new and better features. So startups that deal with Bitcoin have a dual problem: they must provide security even though it's value is only understood when there is an intrusion, and they must also actually create a product of real value that gets adopted. To turn this back to Gliph, we have built an incredibly powerful platform that is just barely scratching the surface for our intent. While it may not meet your particular requirements of security, the platform is secure and handles data securely with privacy controls that are simply not available on any other product right now. On the topic of Privacy, our team thought carefully about Gliph's privacy policy which is written in a way that anyone can read. Not just people who know how and have the luxury of spending time reading code for this purpose. |
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Moni3z, thanks first for taking the time to give this feedback. It is important I preface my response with a repeat from my previous post: There are also options out there that are a better fit for high security needs. Gliph's intention is not to be the world's most secure messaging client. Gliph is focused on making fantastic compromises between privacy, security, real-world utility and great user experiences. We make these compromises to execute on Gliph's actual mission: to help people transact with their peers in a trusted, efficient and delightful way. You could've just used the open sourced Textsecure client and server crypto engineering which is known to be secure/audited with your custom UI/app to also send coins. Much easier than rolling your own. You can still sell the app if a lot of people use it regardless if it's guts are entirely made up of Textsecure with some added bitcoin functionality. Textsecure's iOS implementation remains in " early development stage" and is not ready for production. Gliph has been cross-platform, (web, android, iOS for some time). Also, I would assert that technical integrations between multiple cloud wallet services and a secure and private social platform is more challenging than it may appear. If the goal is to sell this software with custom crypto engineering you should consider message encryption using a fast native stream cipher like Salsa20 (or ChaCha) + polynomial MAC (Poly1305, VMAC). I would also use ephemeral keys, ECDH over Curve25519 or copy what Textsecure has done to create each session(s) with temporary keys. Ditch RSA +OAEP, just use a curve to derive a key it's much less complex. You save a lot of bandwidth too using Poly1305 which should be essential for any mobile app. Again, the goal of Gliph is strictly not to sell it as security software, even though this is a value proposition compared to other popular options in the market today. I appreciate these specific technical implementation ideas, and will take them into consideration. Indeed, our current Android app does do certificate pinning. Although it is worth mentioning that since we did do this additional security enhancement, making the fix for Heartbleed immediately broke all existing clients running Gliph for Android app with certificate pinning. This resulted in a lot of user frustration and created retention issues for the product. This is what I mean about needing to continuously make compromises between security and user experience. If you go too far out on a limb, the only folks you'll attract are hyper-security people and again, we are not after that group of folks. There are other products that are great at addressing those needs. Finally pay somebody respected to audit your software since money transactions and private messaging is involved. Ask this guy who respected crypto engineers are that can be contracted for auditing: https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green this will generate more interest in your app since none of us can verify the code. I agree this is a terrific idea, and as soon as the company is capitalized to the point to offer this, we will perform the audit. Just downloaded the app on iOS, pretty nice app. I am loving these new bitcoin apps hitting iOS lately! Great work, make sure to keep the security up. Is it possible to implement TOR? Thanks for checking it out! Gliph does work in conjunction with TOR, so long as you have your device set up to route app traffic over the connection. We are unlikely to build native tor support in because it is not too hard to set up and toggle on as a device-wide choice and because every new security feature takes time and energy away from building new products and services that bring us closer to our mission. |
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This is a bit older thread, but I'll answer questions here anyway. If you're have general questions about Gliph, please post to this thread which I'm monitoring more closely. What you told is nice but when using Cloaked Email address, it is a little hard to track every mails, right? When we use our personal email, we will open it most of the times and it is very easy to track every new mails.
IMO If you use Gliph, it would be better to use Email privacy service Gliph provides.
Kindly, Muhammed Zakhir Hey Muhammed, thanks for the feedback. I think I follow what you're saying. Fwiw, Cloaked Email does route to your normal inbox, so you shouldn't miss notifications from Coinbase or other services, as they are delivered to your normal inbox. (It sounds like you got that, but I want to clarify for anyone reading along. Pando is a shit blog Full of lies and shills I disagree, but I respect your opinion and realize you may have specific valid reasons for feeling that way. Out of curiosity, are there any publications you would recommend Gliph seeking coverage in? We have gotten press from a lot of different places, but if there is a place you'd recommend we focus efforts in getting coverage for our next release, I would like to know about it. |
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Hi Rob, all good news, but have you opened sourced Gliph yet? Hey there, is this Wendell posting? I want to clarify so there is no sense of this being a Hive vs Gliph Q&A. We like Hive and what it is doing and are not positioning our company to be in competition with Hive. Regardless, thanks for posing this important question again, I'll seek to clarify this: We do not have plans to open source Gliph. Gliph does leverage open source components, and we have already contributed valuable open source code in the mobile space, specifically related to cross-platform Bluetooth technology to the bitcoin community. As I mentioned previously in this thread, I explained in detail the reasons it is unlikely Gliph's code base will be open sourced at this time in one of my previous interviews with Adam Levine on Let's Talk Bitcoin. I ask if you have questions that were not answered there to direct them to me personally and I can try to explain. You can send me a message through this message board or use this link to chat with me: https://gliph.me/x68There are some folks who feel that software products they use must be open source or rely solely on distributed technology. We believe open source is very important and support those people and their choices of products that do that. We also celebrate the value of distributed systems. However, Gliph is still a startup and it is not our focus to satisfy these requirements. As Muhammed sort of indicates below, Gliph is focused on building something that makes fantastic compromises between privacy, security, real-world utility and great user experiences. We can't do everything, or we'd accomplish nothing. I like the protection and privacy you guaranty. I hope Gliph will prevent data from the best hackers. Anyway take precautions for a back up like security. Good Luck! Thank you, Muhammed. If you are interested in testing some of the stuff we have coming, please let me know! -- A few folks signed up, but if anyone else is interested in the Android beta program, please feel free to join here: https://plus.google.com/communities/115060523812882093982 |
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Hey there. We're planning to send out the first beta of the new Gliph Android app we've been working on tomorrow. If you're interested in having a look, you can request to join the google group we use to distribute the test version. https://plus.google.com/communities/115060523812882093982rob |
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I had a chance to try out some of the initial versions of this, (prior to the deeper QR code engraving), and it is still an awesome keychain!
I recommend it to anyone who wants an easy to find wallet address even if your smartphone battery is dead.
rob
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Hey Bitcoin Talk folks, We are currently beta testing some new features on Gliph. I wanted to give the BitcoinTalk community a chance to check it out and provide feedback. - If you're generally interested in trying out some new Gliph stuff, please send an email to support at gli.ph.
- If you're interested specifically in testing the Android app as we make changes, we have a google group for that.
- We also have an iPhone testing group. Again, email support@ if you're interested in being a part.
Rob |
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Hey Folks, Gliph is in the final set. We would totally appreciate a few votes from the Bitcoin Talk community! No registration required: Vote Gliph, Best Mobile App Thank you! rob |
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Hey Bitcoin Talk folks, I wanted to check in on two things: 1. Gliph is up for nomination for Best Mobile App on the Blockchain Awards. We would appreciate your nomination, by tomorrow, for the award. Feel free to nominate folks for any of the categories! Nominate Gliph Here2. We are running our second annual photo contest. We select a few winners which we feature on the site and in our marketing. We give preference to photos of pets, so feel free to submit something for inclusion. Enter a photo in the Gliph photo contest.It has been a little while since we put out new Bitcoin features, but we have some great stuff on the way! Thanks for your support! rob |
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