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1  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: December 05, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Hi,
Dont turn both tabs on in bitstamp! One api per currency pair, there is only one pair at bitstamp. You will overload the api and get banned. Yea there are issues with bitstamp sometimes, I am not 100% how to solve them. Check the "support" tab at the bottom and see what it suggests.

I think all the problems with cryptsy are on cryptsy´s end and not the bots.



@Stephan Any update on if or how to make Cryptsy work?
2  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
Here is something odd I noticed while trying to get the bot to make a trade (which it seems to not make trades when all the parms say it should)  Also noticing that the update interval is not always refreshing?

Anyway on this first pic the target sell amount changes from 4.16 to 4.37 in the second pic the only think I did was look at the benchmark and close out the 4.37 was value from before I changed the last  buy price to try and kick off a trade anyway that change was made many minutes before and was updated in the target sell amount long ago?












@Stephan224 anything you can say about this? Also can you repeat the max polling of the trading platform by the bot for BTC-E and is it effected by the number of indicators (RSI etc) or the interval set. Is there anyway to know if ones bot has been banned by BTC-e? Im getting no trades now?
3  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 07:38:57 PM
Does anyone have any advice on how I can prevent my trade bot from going "out of scope" on the recent market uptrends? Due to the minimal price drop/rise, this has been happening to me often. So far I've just been using the default RSI30 30/70 indicator at 60 second interval, but the problem is; my bot will sell at (for example) $250 when the RSI detects the currency is being overbought, but then I come back to check an hour later and the market has already risen to $260 and I'm left behind because the target buy price is less than $249.50.

I almost feel like I should just raise the "sell" threshold on the RSI30 indicator to 90 or higher, just to prevent it from selling since the market is rising so fast, but then of course, I could be in big trouble if the bubble pops and we come crashing down.

My assumption was that the trade bot could automate my trading strategies and make 10-20 trades a day, but so far I have had to check on it constantly so I don't get stuck. Am I the only one having this trouble, and if so, would anyone mind sharing some basic strategies or hints with me? Grin

This is what I was attempting to avoid by getting in on more up/down movement with small trades then when I find myself "out of scope" I have been manually making a buy during a dip and flipping the buy/sell back to bought and trigger a sell from there etc.
4  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 07:28:48 PM
Very simply the field in "trade bot settings" called "Min currency drop" changes to reflect the amount of my trade.  My point has been that this min drop or raise is the amount that the market must move before profit can be taken therefore smaller trades have smaller fees and market can move 3 cents and profit 2 a thousand times a day or 20 seconds divided by the seconds in a day (if there were trade opportunities for each 20 sec period).  Very simply you have that field Min currency drop raise in there for a reason and its tied to my trade amount......

As for what your saying about 1 "coin" I do not see that I see the amount change based on whole number or partial numbers of "coin"

And yes I have other questions that I have posted if your interested in those, screen shots are included...

You do not have to post anymore screenshots, i have seen them all. I have also seen your questions but as far as i know right now most of those questions will answer themselves in time. This normally how it goes.

You are right you can trade much more and get on every wave the currency makes, even is this wave is very low. However, this is only possible if you trade with a low amount of coins. So you should trade with less then 1 coin to get this working.

Testable example:
You trade 1 Bitcoin at the first trade bot and 0.2 Bitcoin at the second trade bot.
You are trading with a fee of 0.5%.

Now lets look at the fee you have to pay for both trade-bots:
0.5% fee costs of trading 1 bitcoin is 0.005 bitcoin. Do this times 2 because you need a buy and a sell, resulting in: 0.01 bitcoin total fee costs.
0.5% fee costs of trading 0.2 bitcoin is 0.001 bitcoin. Do this times 2 because you need a buy and a sell, resulting in: 0.002 bitcoin total fee costs.

To get the market movement you need to get the current buy price, multiply if by the total fee costs and you are done.

This part is the easy part to understand. Now, lets look to a situation where you have a trade bot setup with 20 coins in it.

0.5% fee costs of trading 20 bitcoin is 0.1 bitcoin. Do this times 2 because you need a buy and a sell, resulting in: 0.2 bitcoin total fee costs.

This far everything is the same. But now the market movement. Like i told before the market prices are shown with trading 1 bitcoin. But you are trading with 20 bitcoins now, so you can not use the market chart this time unless you calculate is back to 1 coin. So lets take the 0.2 bitcoin total fee costs and divide it by 20 bitcoins. This makes 0.01 bitcoin required market movement. Again do this times the current by price and you get the real needed market movement.

In conclusion;
0.5% fee costs @ trading 0.2 bitcoin = 0.001 bitcoin. Times 2 = 0.002 bitcoin total fee costs. Required market movement: 0.002 bitcoin * currenct buy price.
0.5% fee costs @ trading 1 bitcoin = 0.005 bitcoin. Times 2 = 0.01 bitcoin total fee costs. Required market movement: 0.01 bitcoin * currenct buy price.
0.5% fee costs @ trading 20 bitcoins = 0.1 bitcoin. Times 2 = 0.2 bitcoin total fee costs. Divide by 20 to get back to 1 coin. Required market movement: 0.01 bitcoin * currenct buy price.

Like everybody is telling you here, the market movement is different from the fee costs. Yes they are related, but less then you think.

BTW I can recommend you to review the currency extended chart at the benchmark form. It shows you the minimum values in action.

Thanks Stephan224 Yes I am trading small amount at a time .1 .3 etc, however if I trade 10 coins my fee is $6.20 if I trade 1 it is .62 cents so I still can not see how one can say that it does not require a movement of more to trade 10 coins? Are you saying that the fee and the trade for 10 coins happens 10 times to fill the order so the fee is always .62 for each trade? If so why does the field go red and say min market drop/raise change?

PS... I see now the action of the red flag on the drop raise and see that in fact this is what your saying its based on trading 1 coin 10 times.  Thanks for being a single bright ray of reason in a bucket full of crabs trying to bring people down with there supposed intelligence you my friend have the wisdom of a genius!
5  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 06:38:12 PM
enki74 stop spamming please, this is not usefull.

Everything in this software works with solid logic and mathematics. There are over 500 registered users of this software. Think about this...

The minimum drop and raise are reflected to the chart you see, this works from 1 coin and up. If you trade less then 1 coin then the minimum raise and drop are adjusted.

Market movement is NOT equal to the total amount of profit you are making. Prices are always based at buying or selling just 1 coin, that is called the market.

If you think this is wrong tell me (or us) why you think this is wrong. I am open for suggestions, but i am selling this software as only profitable so i need to be sure your logic is solid. So please explain in numbers or words what is wrong.




Very simply the field in "trade bot settings" called "Min currency drop" changes to reflect the amount of my trade.  My point has been that this min drop or raise is the amount that the market must move before profit can be taken therefore smaller trades have smaller fees and market can move 3 cents and profit 2 a thousand times a day or 20 seconds divided by the seconds in a day (if there were trade opportunities for each 20 sec period).  Very simply you have that field Min currency drop raise in there for a reason and its tied to my trade amount......

As for what your saying about 1 "coin" I do not see that I see the amount change based on whole number or partial numbers of "coin"

And yes I have other questions that I have posted if your interested in those, screen shots are included...
6  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 06:12:41 PM
As I understand it, the btc-e API only allows you to poll once a second max.

If you show what you mean by '20 trades a minute' with a section of a graphed image, then it'd make your requirement a little more clear I suspect...


miaoux, his assertion is a common one among kids that believe bots can somehow create trading.  Even the busiest exchanges can go hours without enough movement to create a profit margin for a single trade.  It is a similar argument to "many small trades cost less in fees then one large trade of equal value".

They will argue their point independent of any reason, and it is simply not worth the forums time and bother to try to point out the basic mechanics of trading to them.
Kids argument, am far from a kid. Making assumptions that I am some punk teenager wrong am in my late 20s so get your assumptions right. Did I ever say I believe bots can some how make trades nope. Stop putting words into other peoples mouths and making assumptions because their wrong.

I know what bots do, and I am fully aware of how a bot works, and what it does, and how it does it. You can assumptions you want don't bother me one little bit. I could continue and go on all night about bots. However I don't have the time to waste when theirs more important things to do than talk to you. Maybe I should start making a bot and post it here. Then again I dont have the time it takes to put into coding when I am already coding my own website back office and setting a business up.

Miaoux I was referring to having more trading options and more aggressive ways of trading. When I was saying x amount of trades per min. Their would have to be enough trades going on to trade. So far from what my friend has shown me the bot has made only 2 trades within an hour with the settings he had it set. With that time window their should of at least been 10 to 15 trades happen for the bot to buy and sell on BTC/USD on btc-e at the time when he was showing me their was more than enough trades from people going on for your bot to also trade at that time too.

In the other post on here someone explaining making 15 trades that is very little for a bot. Am thinking it maybe something to do with sending and receiving data for the bot to look at and make its move from what a user has had their settings at. For the update window I think that 20sec is a little too long if theirs a lot happening with trading then a lot can happen in 20sec and the bot can miss out. maybe have it from 1 sec to 5 5 10 15 etc and above or having implemented a live feature s its live all the time. If the bot is looking every 20sec sending trades or updating every 20 sec this time frame is too big.


Right on! that guy is a math bully!

Lol Enki74 and crazyearner, you both are hopeless.
Smaller trades do not have a smaller fee, because the fees is a percentage.

You better be trolling!



LOL ur completely blind to what others are saying and your statement is part of the answer yes its a % of the trade amount therefor smaller trade amount is smaller Fee amount requiring smaller movement in the market before a trade is made, WTF so smart but yet so blind...

Wow, so you are not trolling? Okay... Example:

A = 10 BTC @ 300 USD
VS
B = 1 BTC @ 300 USD

.5 trading fee:
A = 15 USD FEE
B = 1.5 USD FEE

BTC Price moves to 301.5:
A = 3015 USD (Fee Paid)
B = 301.5 USD (Fee Paid)

Would you look at that, they both need the exact same move in the market in order to be profitable...

Now please get of your high horse and accept when other people are right and you are wrong...

Like I said, I have learned not to argue with them lol.  Math _is_ a bully, and a bitch.  It will win every time.  Wink

Here is a simple one for ya then if its of no consequence then why the hell does the "minimum currency raise" and "minimum currency drop" fields change to larger amounts as trade amounts are higher? Seems that is the million dollar question  

The fact that you think its a "win" says a lot perhaps reorientation of your goals in life would be in order how about working under a theory  of symbios you know "working together" rather than survival of the fittest this is not really how nature works look around all other species rely on the other a web of symbiot life you my friend are just trying to win to fulfill an unhealthy modern ego...
7  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 06:08:57 PM
Folks, STOP polluting this thread. Some of Your comments are interesting but some are just plain trash. Do we want this thread grow like KNC one? Please not!

Really can you answer the simple question for me above?
8  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 05:58:02 PM
I would like to see anyone of the math guru's tell me how come we have min raise and min drop tied right to the amount of the trade on the bot if it does not matter? One simple question everyone here to smart to answer...?

Here is a simple one for ya then if its of no consequence then why the hell does the "minimum currency raise" and "minimum currency drop" fields change to larger amounts as trade amounts are higher? Seems that is the million dollar question
9  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 05:52:46 PM
As I understand it, the btc-e API only allows you to poll once a second max.

If you show what you mean by '20 trades a minute' with a section of a graphed image, then it'd make your requirement a little more clear I suspect...


miaoux, his assertion is a common one among kids that believe bots can somehow create trading.  Even the busiest exchanges can go hours without enough movement to create a profit margin for a single trade.  It is a similar argument to "many small trades cost less in fees then one large trade of equal value".

They will argue their point independent of any reason, and it is simply not worth the forums time and bother to try to point out the basic mechanics of trading to them.
Kids argument, am far from a kid. Making assumptions that I am some punk teenager wrong am in my late 20s so get your assumptions right. Did I ever say I believe bots can some how make trades nope. Stop putting words into other peoples mouths and making assumptions because their wrong.

I know what bots do, and I am fully aware of how a bot works, and what it does, and how it does it. You can assumptions you want don't bother me one little bit. I could continue and go on all night about bots. However I don't have the time to waste when theirs more important things to do than talk to you. Maybe I should start making a bot and post it here. Then again I dont have the time it takes to put into coding when I am already coding my own website back office and setting a business up.

Miaoux I was referring to having more trading options and more aggressive ways of trading. When I was saying x amount of trades per min. Their would have to be enough trades going on to trade. So far from what my friend has shown me the bot has made only 2 trades within an hour with the settings he had it set. With that time window their should of at least been 10 to 15 trades happen for the bot to buy and sell on BTC/USD on btc-e at the time when he was showing me their was more than enough trades from people going on for your bot to also trade at that time too.

In the other post on here someone explaining making 15 trades that is very little for a bot. Am thinking it maybe something to do with sending and receiving data for the bot to look at and make its move from what a user has had their settings at. For the update window I think that 20sec is a little too long if theirs a lot happening with trading then a lot can happen in 20sec and the bot can miss out. maybe have it from 1 sec to 5 5 10 15 etc and above or having implemented a live feature s its live all the time. If the bot is looking every 20sec sending trades or updating every 20 sec this time frame is too big.


Right on! that guy is a math bully!

Lol Enki74 and crazyearner, you both are hopeless.
Smaller trades do not have a smaller fee, because the fees is a percentage.

You better be trolling!



LOL ur completely blind to what others are saying and your statement is part of the answer yes its a % of the trade amount therefor smaller trade amount is smaller Fee amount requiring smaller movement in the market before a trade is made, WTF so smart but yet so blind...

Wow, so you are not trolling? Okay... Example:

A = 10 BTC @ 300 USD
VS
B = 1 BTC @ 300 USD

.5 trading fee:
A = 15 USD FEE
B = 1.5 USD FEE

BTC Price moves to 301.5:
A = 3015 USD (Fee Paid)
B = 301.5 USD (Fee Paid)

Would you look at that, they both need the exact same move in the market in order to be profitable...

Now please get of your high horse and accept when other people are right and you are wrong...

Like I said, I have learned not to argue with them lol.  Math _is_ a bully, and a bitch.  It will win every time.  Wink

Here is a simple one for ya then if its of no consequence then why the hell does the "minimum currency raise" and "minimum currency drop" fields change to larger amounts as trade amounts are higher? Seems that is the million dollar question  
10  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
Name calling is a little childish - if you need help and advice, ask politely. If you are certain you're right, why don't you write down the math so specifics can be examined and you find out where you're right/wrong.


Dripping sarcasm and superior attitude is also childish but seems to be ok if your on the "in" math clique. 
11  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
As I understand it, the btc-e API only allows you to poll once a second max.

If you show what you mean by '20 trades a minute' with a section of a graphed image, then it'd make your requirement a little more clear I suspect...


miaoux, his assertion is a common one among kids that believe bots can somehow create trading.  Even the busiest exchanges can go hours without enough movement to create a profit margin for a single trade.  It is a similar argument to "many small trades cost less in fees then one large trade of equal value".

They will argue their point independent of any reason, and it is simply not worth the forums time and bother to try to point out the basic mechanics of trading to them.
Kids argument, am far from a kid. Making assumptions that I am some punk teenager wrong am in my late 20s so get your assumptions right. Did I ever say I believe bots can some how make trades nope. Stop putting words into other peoples mouths and making assumptions because their wrong.

I know what bots do, and I am fully aware of how a bot works, and what it does, and how it does it. You can assumptions you want don't bother me one little bit. I could continue and go on all night about bots. However I don't have the time to waste when theirs more important things to do than talk to you. Maybe I should start making a bot and post it here. Then again I dont have the time it takes to put into coding when I am already coding my own website back office and setting a business up.

Miaoux I was referring to having more trading options and more aggressive ways of trading. When I was saying x amount of trades per min. Their would have to be enough trades going on to trade. So far from what my friend has shown me the bot has made only 2 trades within an hour with the settings he had it set. With that time window their should of at least been 10 to 15 trades happen for the bot to buy and sell on BTC/USD on btc-e at the time when he was showing me their was more than enough trades from people going on for your bot to also trade at that time too.

In the other post on here someone explaining making 15 trades that is very little for a bot. Am thinking it maybe something to do with sending and receiving data for the bot to look at and make its move from what a user has had their settings at. For the update window I think that 20sec is a little too long if theirs a lot happening with trading then a lot can happen in 20sec and the bot can miss out. maybe have it from 1 sec to 5 5 10 15 etc and above or having implemented a live feature s its live all the time. If the bot is looking every 20sec sending trades or updating every 20 sec this time frame is too big.


Right on! that guy is a math bully!

Lol Enki74 and crazyearner, you both are hopeless.
Smaller trades do not have a smaller fee, because the fees is a percentage.

You better be trolling!

LOL ur completely blind to what others are saying and your statement is part of the answer yes its a % of the trade amount therefor smaller trade amount is smaller Fee amount requiring smaller movement in the market before a trade is made, WTF so smart but yet so blind...

Wow, so you are not trolling? Okay... Example:

A = 10 BTC @ 300 USD
VS
B = 1 BTC @ 300 USD

.5 trading fee:
A = 15 USD FEE
B = 1.5 USD FEE

BTC Price moves to 301.5:
A = 3015 USD (Fee Paid)
B = 301.5 USD (Fee Paid)

Would you look at that, they both need the exact same move in the market in order to be profitable...

Now please get of your high horse and accept when other people are right and you are wrong...

Like I said, I have learned not to argue with them lol.  Math _is_ a bully, and a bitch.  It will win every time.  Wink

Well your not to damn smart if you can not be clear than that nothing there wide open bullshit really begining to think your some kind of 1984 bulshit spreading troll to confuse others
12  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
Why no trade  occurring here many sell indicators on the trade bot signal graph and well over the target sell price but not trade?Huh?

At version 0.9.0.1 there is a bug inside the field that is show the amount of sell signals. That field is showing the buy signals.

Looking to the logic the software must be sending a sell signal. When the order is accepted and verified then the coin position should change.

In this case there is something else wrong, can you post the debug logbook?

Edit:
I will be releasing the new version 0.9.0.2 tomorrow. (sorry for the delay, but its is worth it) Wink

Dont understand your first sentence?
 
When I look at the third tab to right tradelog/tradebot signals/debug log the debug log shows repeated Sell signals sent. I checked no open orders, have usd and ltc on account...

13  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 05:14:03 PM
As I understand it, the btc-e API only allows you to poll once a second max.

If you show what you mean by '20 trades a minute' with a section of a graphed image, then it'd make your requirement a little more clear I suspect...


miaoux, his assertion is a common one among kids that believe bots can somehow create trading.  Even the busiest exchanges can go hours without enough movement to create a profit margin for a single trade.  It is a similar argument to "many small trades cost less in fees then one large trade of equal value".

They will argue their point independent of any reason, and it is simply not worth the forums time and bother to try to point out the basic mechanics of trading to them.
Kids argument, am far from a kid. Making assumptions that I am some punk teenager wrong am in my late 20s so get your assumptions right. Did I ever say I believe bots can some how make trades nope. Stop putting words into other peoples mouths and making assumptions because their wrong.

I know what bots do, and I am fully aware of how a bot works, and what it does, and how it does it. You can assumptions you want don't bother me one little bit. I could continue and go on all night about bots. However I don't have the time to waste when theirs more important things to do than talk to you. Maybe I should start making a bot and post it here. Then again I dont have the time it takes to put into coding when I am already coding my own website back office and setting a business up.

Miaoux I was referring to having more trading options and more aggressive ways of trading. When I was saying x amount of trades per min. Their would have to be enough trades going on to trade. So far from what my friend has shown me the bot has made only 2 trades within an hour with the settings he had it set. With that time window their should of at least been 10 to 15 trades happen for the bot to buy and sell on BTC/USD on btc-e at the time when he was showing me their was more than enough trades from people going on for your bot to also trade at that time too.

In the other post on here someone explaining making 15 trades that is very little for a bot. Am thinking it maybe something to do with sending and receiving data for the bot to look at and make its move from what a user has had their settings at. For the update window I think that 20sec is a little too long if theirs a lot happening with trading then a lot can happen in 20sec and the bot can miss out. maybe have it from 1 sec to 5 5 10 15 etc and above or having implemented a live feature s its live all the time. If the bot is looking every 20sec sending trades or updating every 20 sec this time frame is too big.


Right on! that guy is a math bully!

Lol Enki74 and crazyearner, you both are hopeless.
Smaller trades do not have a smaller fee, because the fees is a percentage.

You better be trolling!

LOL ur completely blind to what others are saying and your statement is part of the answer yes its a % of the trade amount therefor smaller trade amount is smaller Fee amount requiring smaller movement in the market before a trade is made, WTF so smart but yet so blind...

Wow, so you are not trolling? Okay... Example:

A = 10 BTC @ 300 USD
VS
B = 1 BTC @ 300 USD

.5 trading fee:
A = 15 USD FEE
B = 1.5 USD FEE

BTC Price moves to 301.5:
A = 3015 USD (Fee Paid)
B = 301.5 USD (Fee Paid)

Would you look at that, they both need the exact same move in the market in order to be profitable...

Now please get of your high horse and accept when other people are right and you are wrong...

That is funny! Wow you said nothing?

I guess your saying ( Fee Paid) means anything?

so if your saying u sold at 301.5 then

A = 15 USD  FEE and would require 15 USD move in market before profits

B = 1.5 USD FEE and would require 1.5 dollar move in the market
14  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 04:44:43 PM
Why no trade  occurring here many sell indicators on the trade bot signal graph and well over the target sell price but not trade?Huh?

15  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 04:38:17 PM
Here is something odd I noticed while trying to get the bot to make a trade (which it seems to not make trades when all the parms say it should)  Also noticing that the update interval is not always refreshing?

Anyway on this first pic the target sell amount changes from 4.16 to 4.37 in the second pic the only think I did was look at the benchmark and close out the 4.37 was value from before I changed the last  buy price to try and kick off a trade anyway that change was made many minutes before and was updated in the target sell amount long ago?










16  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 03:21:38 PM
As I understand it, the btc-e API only allows you to poll once a second max.

If you show what you mean by '20 trades a minute' with a section of a graphed image, then it'd make your requirement a little more clear I suspect...


miaoux, his assertion is a common one among kids that believe bots can somehow create trading.  Even the busiest exchanges can go hours without enough movement to create a profit margin for a single trade.  It is a similar argument to "many small trades cost less in fees then one large trade of equal value".

They will argue their point independent of any reason, and it is simply not worth the forums time and bother to try to point out the basic mechanics of trading to them.
Kids argument, am far from a kid. Making assumptions that I am some punk teenager wrong am in my late 20s so get your assumptions right. Did I ever say I believe bots can some how make trades nope. Stop putting words into other peoples mouths and making assumptions because their wrong.

I know what bots do, and I am fully aware of how a bot works, and what it does, and how it does it. You can assumptions you want don't bother me one little bit. I could continue and go on all night about bots. However I don't have the time to waste when theirs more important things to do than talk to you. Maybe I should start making a bot and post it here. Then again I dont have the time it takes to put into coding when I am already coding my own website back office and setting a business up.

Miaoux I was referring to having more trading options and more aggressive ways of trading. When I was saying x amount of trades per min. Their would have to be enough trades going on to trade. So far from what my friend has shown me the bot has made only 2 trades within an hour with the settings he had it set. With that time window their should of at least been 10 to 15 trades happen for the bot to buy and sell on BTC/USD on btc-e at the time when he was showing me their was more than enough trades from people going on for your bot to also trade at that time too.

In the other post on here someone explaining making 15 trades that is very little for a bot. Am thinking it maybe something to do with sending and receiving data for the bot to look at and make its move from what a user has had their settings at. For the update window I think that 20sec is a little too long if theirs a lot happening with trading then a lot can happen in 20sec and the bot can miss out. maybe have it from 1 sec to 5 5 10 15 etc and above or having implemented a live feature s its live all the time. If the bot is looking every 20sec sending trades or updating every 20 sec this time frame is too big.


Right on! that guy is a math bully!

Lol Enki74 and crazyearner, you both are hopeless.
Smaller trades do not have a smaller fee, because the fees is a percentage.

You better be trolling!

LOL ur completely blind to what others are saying and your statement is part of the answer yes its a % of the trade amount therefor smaller trade amount is smaller Fee amount requiring smaller movement in the market before a trade is made, WTF so smart but yet so blind...
17  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 02:51:44 PM
As I understand it, the btc-e API only allows you to poll once a second max.

If you show what you mean by '20 trades a minute' with a section of a graphed image, then it'd make your requirement a little more clear I suspect...


miaoux, his assertion is a common one among kids that believe bots can somehow create trading.  Even the busiest exchanges can go hours without enough movement to create a profit margin for a single trade.  It is a similar argument to "many small trades cost less in fees then one large trade of equal value".

They will argue their point independent of any reason, and it is simply not worth the forums time and bother to try to point out the basic mechanics of trading to them.
Kids argument, am far from a kid. Making assumptions that I am some punk teenager wrong am in my late 20s so get your assumptions right. Did I ever say I believe bots can some how make trades nope. Stop putting words into other peoples mouths and making assumptions because their wrong.

I know what bots do, and I am fully aware of how a bot works, and what it does, and how it does it. You can assumptions you want don't bother me one little bit. I could continue and go on all night about bots. However I don't have the time to waste when theirs more important things to do than talk to you. Maybe I should start making a bot and post it here. Then again I dont have the time it takes to put into coding when I am already coding my own website back office and setting a business up.

Miaoux I was referring to having more trading options and more aggressive ways of trading. When I was saying x amount of trades per min. Their would have to be enough trades going on to trade. So far from what my friend has shown me the bot has made only 2 trades within an hour with the settings he had it set. With that time window their should of at least been 10 to 15 trades happen for the bot to buy and sell on BTC/USD on btc-e at the time when he was showing me their was more than enough trades from people going on for your bot to also trade at that time too.

In the other post on here someone explaining making 15 trades that is very little for a bot. Am thinking it maybe something to do with sending and receiving data for the bot to look at and make its move from what a user has had their settings at. For the update window I think that 20sec is a little too long if theirs a lot happening with trading then a lot can happen in 20sec and the bot can miss out. maybe have it from 1 sec to 5 5 10 15 etc and above or having implemented a live feature s its live all the time. If the bot is looking every 20sec sending trades or updating every 20 sec this time frame is too big.


Right on! that guy is a math bully!
18  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 08, 2013, 02:48:52 PM
As I understand it, the btc-e API only allows you to poll once a second max.

If you show what you mean by '20 trades a minute' with a section of a graphed image, then it'd make your requirement a little more clear I suspect...


miaoux, his assertion is a common one among kids that believe bots can somehow create trading.  Even the busiest exchanges can go hours without enough movement to create a profit margin for a single trade.  It is a similar argument to "many small trades cost less in fees then one large trade of equal value".

They will argue their point independent of any reason, and it is simply not worth the forums time and bother to try to point out the basic mechanics of trading to them.

You are like the school kid bully! You can not even hear the questions and statements being made here.  smaller trades have a SMALLER fee. If one is wanting more trades less movement required that is simple and you can not even cop to it so live in your fantasy number world where u know all!
19  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 06, 2013, 11:24:59 PM
I'm considering trying this soft, can someone tell me how much he is doing avg / day / btc in trading ?

thanks !

I'm doing between 5 - 15 trades a day using default rsi and .1 as my BTC trade amount and 1 ltc as my LTC trade amount as I want to get as many trades in as possible and take advantage of small movements this new version seems to be better suited for this just loaded today and don't have numbers on it yet. 
20  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] on: November 06, 2013, 10:31:05 PM
Seem to have a situation where the updates are not staying active. I tried to test the connection under settings and it wipes out my last buy sell numbers?
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