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You are aware you're basing your whole point on an arbitrary report by an old economy rating firm? Those same kind of firms thought the subprime mortgage vehicles were an AAA financial product in 2007... It is nice that Expanse was on the list, though  Tokenlab just recently ended their ICO and already has a product, partnerships, and an exchange this February. The Expanse team is continuing to go above and beyond like they always have! The Expanse team and blockchain are one of the most innovative and active teams on the marketplace. You're just spreading misinformation. Misinforming what? We got suckered into TokenLab because they said it would be a good idea and I wasn't going to be left bagholding. Who is actually adopting Expanse? What is TokenLab going to provide over Ethereum? Expanse's hashrate has only gone down so its getting less secure than Ethereum. All they are doing is adding the innovation that Ethereum is providing into their Ethereum fork (copy) and telling everyone BS while they feed themselves paychecks lol They bash on Ethereum but all they did was fork and copy Ethereum's code. I am a TokenLab investor and left "holding and wondering about the viability of what they bought" per their blog. They are capitalizing on the ICO craze. They are innovating nothing. They are feeding investors BS and nothing of value in return for more money for their paychecks. Please, tell me why they will be relevant with the influx of new ideas coming in the crypto space. Go to the TokenLab roadmap and see how they are so backed up, if they even care. https://crowdsale.tokenlab.io/Exchange listing February on CryptoBridge.... You are scraping the bottom of the barrel.... https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/cryptobridge/Wow. 216.55 BTC volume across 62 coins. 30% volume from "SmartCash" lol How does anyone not see the BS Expanse is feeding anyone with TokenLab. TokenLab was a suckers play and we got screwed. It doesn't matter, they still made over $1,500,000 and we got nothing. Its called taking advantage of suckers. Franko already ignored me. Can't wait for Scotti to come feed more BS about how I'm a bad person to cover up their scam TokenLab. How about instead of Expanse talking bullsh*t, prove something and not make it seem like you are not just running a scam to screw investors over. The Expanse team is making money from suckers like us. If you disagree, prove it, not just talk sh*t on anyone calling Expanse out on their scam. |
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Surely this is the emotional and crude one lol.
$500k to get a token listed on an exchange is ridiculous. I don't see why anyone sane person, other than malicious motives, would say that this should be proceeded. Well, since another member decided to continue with this... It's not because of malicious attempt scottii. It is because I am left bagholding useless LAB tokens when you said that I wouldn't be left bagholding LAB tokens. If you weren't so used to failing and having everyone pissed at you, maybe you would stop thinking everyone saying anything to you is malicious.  |
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Not really. I just don't want to expose my identity to the whole internet? What do you have to hide? Im not going to dox you i dont care who you are, I didnt ask for your name, i just want to know your address so I can verify that you are actually an investor. Because I just dont think you are. So right now I just think you are some loud mouth troll. Just sign the string of data that i provided or gtfo. Alright, I'll let you guys be. I apologize for disturbing your thread.  |
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We did have it going, and I have all the communication to prove it. I can prove my claims.. but you can't even sign a string of data that proves you are actually an investor so it seems like you are just some loud mouth troll trying to cause a scene. Your kind are a dime a dozen in crypto. 1000 crypto critics could stop paying their internet bills and pick up knitting as a hobby and no one would ever fucking notice a difference.
Not really. I just don't want to expose my identity to the whole internet? You just deflect all my accusations and call me names like a child. It's okay, I'm going to be looking into what sort of protection the SEC or other organizations can do to protect investors from you. I lost a lot of money because of TokenLab and I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't a scam because you literally lied and there wont be a Hitbtc listing as promised. If it was just the markets tanking the LAB price, I would accept that as a bad investment. Save your breath lol I didn't mean to get you so hyped up. Like I said, gonna see what we got. Anyone else willing to help, PM me. |
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I knew you would have an excuse why you couldnt do it.
Good god you are a child... Anyways, to everyone reading this, let's start some legal action. Putting out news about Hitbtc being a sure thing and then turns out you didn't even have it going shows deceit from Christopher Franko.
Anyone interested in taking action, PM me. Thanks. |
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"sign this string of data with your expanse key MON 5:34 PM dec 4" Make it the expanse key that has your LAB please. I want to make sure you are actually an investor before i continue speaking with you. Here is a service you can use. https://www.myetherwallet.com/signmsg.htmlI'll pm you tonight when I get home. I dont want it in a pm, i want it right here in public like the rest of this ridiculous fiasco. Will this publically identify my wallet? |
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"sign this string of data with your expanse key MON 5:34 PM dec 4" Make it the expanse key that has your LAB please. I want to make sure you are actually an investor before i continue speaking with you. Here is a service you can use. https://www.myetherwallet.com/signmsg.htmlI'll pm you tonight when I get home. |
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IDK man you seem real dedicated to this troll for someone with out an agenda.
Are you guys even thinking about how serious of an issue this is for TokenLab investors? If no one lists TokenLab anywhere reputable, then no one can get LAB to start their own ICO. This means TokenLab ICO holders are left holding bags while you get to keep your $1,500,000 lol
Seriously, stop doing the avoidance thing. Its pathetic. Try using your brain to think of solutions to problems.What are you talking about? Your first post was literally griefing me because we were going to be making our own exchange. Now you are saying that its a huge issue that there wont be an exchange. We already said we were forking etherdelta, looking for other exchanges in the meantime, and will be making our own exchange to answer this problem. You are all angry and emotional over a non issue. Is not having an exchange right this second an inconvenience for you? Yea sure but we are working on it. Exchanges, again, are outside of our control. We both know this. Edited my post you quoted. Made it less mean and added more stuff. Also, forking EtherDelta is a downgrade from your promise of Hitbtc. EtherDelta will have like what, LAB/EXP and that's it? There is already no volume with Expanse on larger exchanges. I am upset because you keep failing to deliver on promises and I invested into TokenLab factoring in the promise that I would be safe from having no where to dump it. You literally L-I-E-D. If you can't do an exchange with similar or greater volume, you should have the option to have money refunded. I really don't see why you should lie and keep all the money. Doesn't matter if the situation changed, you have our money so it is your duty to make this right. You have over a million dollars raised from the people who thought you were doing something cool and you can't even deliver on a promise? Why don't you consult investors and see what they want to do? Is it because you don't want to spend our money to benefit us? This is why everyone is getting suspicious. |
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IDK man you seem real dedicated to this troll for someone with out an agenda.
Are you guys even thinking about how serious of an issue this is for TokenLab investors? If no one lists TokenLab anywhere reputable, then no one can get LAB to start their own ICO. This means TokenLab ICO holders are left holding bags while you get to keep your $1,500,000 lol
Seriously, stop doing the avoidance thing. Try using your brain to think of solutions to problems.
Your problem here is that TokenLab is needed for TokenLab ICO's. No one can get TokenLab ICO's because no exchange has them. You guys said that there would be a Hitbtc listing and assured investors. Now it turns out you are going against your word.
There has to be some grounds for a class action lawsuit.... |
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Listen, you can repeat yourself 10 more times and it wont make it any less false than it already is. We have delivered on everything we said we would, and hitbtc isnt our fault. It almost seems like though you are trying to pressure me into just paying them the $500k. Do you work for hitbtc?
Nice, you should spend some of that ICO money from TokenLab and buy a trampoline. You really seem to love jumping to conclusions. https://medium.com/@Borderless/expanse-newsletter-vo-2-22-11-16-2017-tokenlab-final-sale-hitbtc-zcash-client-news-7134f6fc6dd4A common problem with many recent ICOs is that they have their ICO sales and then fail to launch on any major exchanges, leaving traders holding and wondering about the viability of what they bought. Looks like TokenLab traders will be left wondering about the viability of TokenLab afterall. This will not be a problem for Tokenlab. We have already planned to launch Tokenlab (LAB) on one of the top cryptocurrency exchanges, HitBTC, and we are also reaching out to other prominent exchanges to list Tokenlab. Looks to me like you guys lied and this will be a problem for TokenLab. This means the Tokenlab sale is much safer than other ICO projects that have not planned ahead for speculative trading that is essential for the long-term success of any project. Nope. Definitely NOT safer than other ICO projects. Actually, considering it has nowhere to trade unlike even the smallest ICO's on EtherDelta, it is very unsafe. |
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Listen, you are trying to hard. Actions speak louder than words.
The only actions anyone is seeing here is that Expanse keeps failing to deliver anything meaningful.
There are too many excuses and trying to justify those excuses coming from you guys.
Don't keep trying to justify everything against what I am saying and try to deliver something, including your promises.
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You are conveniently leaving out my replies.
All your responses that I left out would embarrass you even more. Very amateur and emotional, usually involving crude language. |
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You guys should REALLY check out their Discord channel  It's a shitshow in there. Nothing but Franko and the team giving excuses for everything that is going wrong lol Failure after failure excuse after excuse. If you don't believe me, search for Franko's username 'frk', the CEO of Expanse, and watch him try to float a failing scam. People ask them when something is happening or what is next and they just keep telling everyone excuses. If you don't believe me, check it out for yourself.   And check this out. He wants to run an exchange next. Not sure if way to save Expanse price or just another project to waste time. Edited for width.  I hope this next blog has something interesting to offer. This recent failure to list Hitbtc onto an exchange after telling people it would be is going to be a tough one to recover from. If you happen to notice, even the people inside your own Discord channel are starting to get more and more irritated and suspicious. I don't know what you angle is but what people are starting to see is that Expanse keeps wanting to raise more and more money while providing nothing and constantly failing to deliver anything. This time, you are breaking promises and hopefully this house of cards will crumble. |
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Also, doesnt it seem logical that if we are having a hard time with exchanges that we would want to start our own? Isnt that essentially the ethos of crypto? Ya know? Competition and intermediary elimination? Troll harder.
The problem is that Expanse has provided nothing of value since it's inception besides a few pumps here and there. You guy's literally copy other people's work and cover it in glitter and keep stringing investors along. The Ethereum Foundation innovates and you guys just add it to Expanse. Hell, now you guys want to fork EtherDelta lol What are you going to trade on the forked EthereDelta? Expanse and TokenLab? You guys just raised another $1,500,000 in TokenLab and can't even get an exchange. Do you guys not see how you guys are just full of failures after failures? What have you guys even done besides raise more and more money and give investors more and more excuses. This sounds like you are just wasting time so that you can keep paying yourselves. This is crypto, most of us know this is a common scam method. |
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You guys should REALLY check out their Discord channel It's a shitshow in there. Nothing but Franko and the team giving excuses for everything that is going wrong lol Failure after failure excuse after excuse. If you don't believe me, search for Franko's username 'frk', the CEO of Expanse, and watch him try to float a failing scam. People ask them when something is happening or what is next and they just keep telling everyone excuses. If you don't believe me, check it out for yourself. And check this out. He wants to run an exchange next. Not sure if way to save Expanse price or just another project to waste time. Edited for width. |
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I am a Windows guy and trying to make the switch to Ubuntu. On my desktop PC with high end specs, Ubuntu runs fine with only 1 RX470 plugged in with a riser.
When I plug in the second RX470 with a riser, the GUI of Ubuntu runs painfully slow. I have tried the AMDGPU-PRO drivers and the ones that come with Ubuntu clean install with no results.
Does anyone know why running 2 GPU's on risers causes Ubuntu to lag while running only 1 GPU with a riser runs fine?
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I think it might be time to find an incentive for people to take their coins away from Poloniex. Maybe find some more use cases for XBC. Congrats on CoinPayments! Its a start. http://188.166.170.10:3001/richlistTop 1-25 88816.08018880 Coins 94.62% Top 26-50 2575.28884664 Coins 2.74% Top 51-75 1404.49019613 Coins 1.50% Top 76-100 730.38851067 Coins 0.78% |
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The R9 series are power hungry monsters.
What are reputable risers? I only knew of the chinese ones that are everywhere.
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