yes. I catch scammer! He change hash seed after bet.. no history bets.. before bet and after bet , result is different ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Where exactly is the proof of this? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I haven't actually seen you show any proof that you got given one hash shown as the " Next Bet: Server Seed SHA256 Hash" value... then you made the bet and then the provably fair tab showed a completely different hash in the " Last Bet: Server Seed SHA256 Hash" section... I've seen a lot of 20pt red font crying "scam"... but no actual proof. Meanwhile... I went to ParaDice.io... and to start with I see this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpjvyO1B.png&t=663&c=K1BCBlIyOuB1nw) See the Next Bet hash? Then I make my roll... result is 27.22... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FekG83HY.png&t=663&c=Ys9J6N8mzyuvhg) we go back to "Fair?" tab and we see: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbOsu9hm.png&t=663&c=3duMukjyECR7Yw) Hash is now showing as the "Last Bet" hash... and I can see the last bet seed was "ANW11iJuvI8vmiCy2koi8Bcacl-27.22109999999999985220711096189916", which has the roll result 27.22... The SHA256 for that seed = cb2b7a48508555c1373db0fd2aded04125c6949f452565323c3b974af283bd5d which is exactly what they showed before and after my roll... so it all checks out. He stole my deposit.. please see it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1877660.msg18663330#msg18663330
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wow, another user DiceNDice asking the admin of paradice to refund his winnings, I wonder if it is the alt account of mafiacoin
sure as hell it is,I bet there will be more "victims" with throwaway accounts I really do think this is running or going to somewhere unbelievable. Most of the people accusing got red tags with them, how can assure that we will all believe on those accusations that they spit out? Its really effort wasting, why would they just throw away their accounts with such no basis accusation? because if a player like Mafia can,allegedly,create 40 dice site accounts and abuse faucet he sure as hell can create 40 forum accounts and it takes only some effort for him,so he can use them as disposable tribunes to try and molest sites like paradice,but at the moment he is just creating free advertising for them,nothing more admin should reward such a valiant effort,haha I am pretty sure he scams many other casinos sites this way and they keep doing this until the site owner pays out so they can end the bad publicity or they are just tired of the threats. Since its a very small amount most casino devs just pay the BTC and move on with their life. He is starting so many threads and posting false info like "bad provably seeds", etc. That makes me wonder how much longer he is going to keep doing this until he gives up. People nowadays strive so hard just to make money on a certain site its either on both ways like giving false accusations just to ruin the reputation of the site or abusing the system.Its not only Paradice do experience these faucet hunters but most of all specially to those sites who dont have ip restriction is commonly having these problems.One day Mafia will surely be tired on pursuing his aims coz no one really believe at all. ... why you don't belive me? I post all proof and my deposit txid. see screenshot and video! I don't use faucet. He stole my deposit! paradice.io fucking SCAMMER!!!
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Hello members,
Don't play on paradice.io! He don't pay! Can't withdraw! SCAM!
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You know what mafia coin ... I haven't seen a fuktard like you in my whole life. Go and learn grammar 1st then Learn how probably system works stop wasting you time by trolling around making nonsense posts.
I suggest the OP to close the thread since it's the purpose of this thread is completed or this mafia coin will keep on spamming this thread.
no trolling, this is only true paradice is scammer. he stole my deposit. slole money many members!!! and change hash sha256 of seed after bet.
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3. Server seed + Roll result method.
Server seed can change every roll or be fixed.
Roll result is pre-generated by the site before bet is made (method for generating roll result may be unknown/unpublished, but it is in the best interests of the site if it is properly random, otherwise someone could predict the patterns and ruin them)
Server seed + roll result are combined, SHA256/512 hash calculated and provided prior to bet being made as proof. NO Client Seed is used or required.
Once bet is submitted the server seed + roll result are shown (along with the previous hash for verification purposes)... new hash for next seed/roll result is generated and provided.
Server knows reach roll result BEFORE you place a bet, BUT CANNOT CHANGE IT, because that would break the server seed hash.
ParaDice.io is using this method.
~ In any case, in ALL of these methods, even the ones where the server is pre-generating the result like ParaDice.io... the server cannot possibly change anything that the hash is related to, after it has been provided to the player. The maths of SHA256 (and 512 as applicable) make it, for all intents and purposes, impossible for them to modify anything... as (ironically) pointed out by MafiaCoin in his "Scam" accusation, if they change anything, it breaks the hash calculation.
yes. I catch scammer! He change hash seed after bet.. no history bets.. before bet and after bet , result is different SCAM!
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I just deposited 0.015 and withdrawed 0.02, I don't think there is any problem...
Yes, you have not problem because you are alt acc paradice.io ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) We started to think that we should pay you for bumping our thread ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think you should close this scam site. How can you even just suddenly come to that conclusion? I don't have any interest in paradice, but I don't think this is the right move. Paradice came out of the scam accusation without doubt against them, the guy MafiaCoins is the one wrong here. He is also giving so much fuss about 8mBTC! That's such a small amount, I don't think paradice would not risk their site for just a small amount. I think it cost more than 8mBTC to even buy hosting! Fuck this mafiacoins he is an idiot. Check this thread this site is not provable fair https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887360.0who is idiot? i hacked this shit server https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1888282.msg18757669#msg18757669
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I just deposited 0.015 and withdrawed 0.02, I don't think there is any problem...
Yes, you have not problem because you are alt acc paradice.io ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) We started to think that we should pay you for bumping our thread ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you need my address wallet? Or your words is shit..
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I just deposited 0.015 and withdrawed 0.02, I don't think there is any problem...
Yes, you have not problem because you are alt acc paradice.io ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) We started to think that we should pay you for bumping our thread ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think you should close this scam site. How can you even just suddenly come to that conclusion? I don't have any interest in paradice, but I don't think this is the right move. Paradice came out of the scam accusation without doubt against them, the guy MafiaCoins is the one wrong here. He is also giving so much fuss about 8mBTC! That's such a small amount, I don't think paradice would not risk their site for just a small amount. I think it cost more than 8mBTC to even buy hosting! But why his alt sarul didn't got -ve yet for abusing a someone with multiple accounts on this forum. I don't think it's good for any starting business for anyone what do you think ? Because you have not brain. Sarul is not alt acc! paradice.io is SCAM
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I just deposited 0.015 and withdrawed 0.02, I don't think there is any problem...
Yes, you have not problem because you are alt acc paradice.io ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) We started to think that we should pay you for bumping our thread ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think you should close this scam site. How can you even just suddenly come to that conclusion? I don't have any interest in paradice, but I don't think this is the right move. Paradice came out of the scam accusation without doubt against them, the guy MafiaCoins is the one wrong here. He is also giving so much fuss about 8mBTC! That's such a small amount, I don't think paradice would not risk their site for just a small amount. I think it cost more than 8mBTC to even buy hosting! I'm right. Does not mean 8mBTC.. What will happen if will my depost 0.5 btc for example? This is fact of scam
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I just deposited 0.015 and withdrawed 0.02, I don't think there is any problem...
Yes, you have not problem because you are alt acc paradice.io ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I yesterday won 0.07491BTC I can't withdraw too..
Today I visited site and see my account deleted!!! balance is zero! SCAM!
Shit! This paradice.io don't pay not only me! Why do you play here? I posted about scam here!
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Coindice - the script that Paradice is built upon - generates the number fairly in the sense that it's randomly chosen and not biased. It's provably fair at the hash level - the player's roll is the same as the roll that the site provides the hash of - but it's not provably fair at the RNG level. The admin could theoretically edit the code so that it generates biased results and players wouldn't know or be able to do anything about it (due to the lack of a client seed). However, it's unlikely that Paradice (or any other site) would do anything like that - such a system implemented without great care could make a site more vulnerable to potential exploits - and I'm pretty sure there's no scam going on here, at least with the rolls. MafiaCoin's 'proof' post makes no sense - at best he just has no idea how it works, at worst he's just trying to cause trouble.
However, while it's unlikely that the site is cheating, personally I'd advise steering clear of paradice unless they implement a true provably fair system with a client seed option and rework their rules. A 'one account per user' rule on a Coindice-based site - where users are likely to accidentally create multiple accounts due to the automatic generation of them - is suspicious and could be used as an excuse to withhold legitimate withdrawals, and the same goes for a horribly vague rule like 'don't faucet farm' rather than having specific limitations on the use of the faucet.
I know how it works sha256-512 and provably fair! I catch, he change seed. If use big amount, every bet lost and use fake seed. Do you want try this shit provably system with bets 0.05btc and more? I placed bets and he give fake seed.. After remove my account! SHA of seed before bet and after is different! SCAM
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Those participant / players for contest wegered showing on board "MOST WAGERED" But... They username hiddens it's easy, he is scammer
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Without evidence of that, your claim and countless pointless threads are worthless. If you're just annoyed about something, you could express it with reason instead of increasingly frantic rambling.
please see my example: sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388) = 5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91 Last Bet: Server Seed sha256: 5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91 Server Seed: cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388 He manipulate this digit.. cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388 and made fake seed!!! He use xx.xx digit only if cange last digit result is fake!!! sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339381)=28bb1a8cbb6d84fa150b1f0582aab210ff02bf374886f3a7c1eac539abc4726f
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[SELL] paradice.io - script / FULL /
REQUIREMENTS: - vps server - PHP (>= 5.3) - MySQL with MySQLi Extension - CRON - Any bitcoin wallet
MAIN FEATURES:
- Auto Installation Script
- Automatic Betting (Bot)
- Administration options
- Detailed Statistics
- Configurable house edge
- Configurable max bet
- Configurable min bet
- Configurable Minimal withdrawal
- Configurable number of deposit confirmations Network
- Fake seed
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Guys come on don't act like kids this guy MafiaCoin abused faucet and trusted member here Yahoo and Lauda confirmed it. He just wants revenge for not getting the BTC he tried to scam. If you want to know site is probably fair or not look at this Legendary member's Post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18750049#msg18750049And I don't know why everyone starts targeting a new gambling website launches just after a guy defames it with his multiple Alts on this forum. My Final statement as Sr.Member: Website is probably fair I post proof.. he can manipulate seed. game has not client seed. use xx.xx digit.. NOT PROVABLY FAIR. SCAM. NOT PAYING! STOLE MY DEPOSIT
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I thought that mafia coin and his Alt " Sarul " Got permabanned already for spamming the forum and making false accusations. Lauda also didn't take any strict action against his alt and on mafiacoin.
Are you stupid? This is not my account! I don't spam, post fact only! Paradice.io use fake seed and change it.. Stole money from players. Need close this shit site. Not only i said about.. Few case of scam.
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Our website is 100% fair.
It's basic maths.
We will wait for a trusted member to check the probability fair.
Really? You can manipulate and change seed after bet!
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