Dear OP, Your BetID has absolutely nothing to do with the result of your game round. The BetID is simply a number that platforms use to log your game result in a way that is efficient and referenceable within their system. The anatomy of a provably fair game round is very straightforward and easily verifiable. I won't go into that process in this comment but I will give you some reading material so you can educate yourself and become more knowledgeable on this subject. Is provably fair perfect? No. But it is still the most transparent RNG, in my opinion. The following is an article that covers all the pros and cons as well as the fundamental flaws of provably fair algos in a thorough, comprehensive, and unbiased manner. It also contains instructions on how to use non-casino-related third-party hashing tools to verify your bets without the need for input from the casino. Please use these resources before making these kinds of accusations in the future. https://blog.bc.game/the-fundamental-flaw-of-provably-fair/The blog that published this article is owned by a casino but I assure you the content and resources it contains are unlike anything you would find a casino publishing. Read it before judging. |
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Suspicious, like the time you tried and failed to extort me and the people I work with? Instead of posting an Etherscan link that happened to have a keyword that you recognized using your very limited intellect, how about posting something that explains your suspicion? Make sure to include the reason you want to defame BCGame so badly that you are willing to lie, cheat, threaten, and steal to accomplish this. I look forward to your response.
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How am I just seeing this thread for the first time? I haven't posted here for a while but I felt compelled to after an internet search on provably fair sent me to this topic. This article referenced is the most honest and non-conformist explanation of provably fair I've ever seen. After reading it, the points made by the author seem very obvious but I was so brainwashed by the 1000s of identical definitions and explanations of provably fair across the forums and casinos that I just accepted that crypto casinos were being the fairest and most transparent they could be. Now I'm not so sure. I did a bit of research before commenting to see if any casinos have actually addressed these problems with their universally approved provably fair methods. The casino that owns the blog where this article is published is the only one, not surprisingly, that uses a different seed pair for each game. Why would this not be made a standard across all sites with provably fair games? It is the only way to guarantee that a casino doesn't push you away from an upcoming win on any game. I've only really checked a few sites. If anyone knows of other sites that have taken this same stance, let me know.......
That would be my honest reaction and reply to this article if I was not the one who wrote it. lol. Thanks for the shout-out. I am a rep for BC.Game but I am happy to say that they updated their provably fair implementation after I wrote this article in response to it. That is why I am still representing.
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I can't say that I'm surprised. I've heard nothing good about this casino. I don't know much about the owner but I saw your comments on the Betnomi thread and it seems very similar to the M.O. of so many incompetent business owners. I hope, for your sake, that this post grabs the attention of some default trust members and BTCT super sleuths. Once they dive into an accusation, they will find out if you're sincere and will even be able to tell you if the accused wears women's underwear. Good luck.
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Man you know I was happy that one of my friends with thsi project picked me up. Until it was a train wreck. Sorsis doesn't follow through with anything that he says to his staff. People who he got me to hire have yet to be paid and I haven't been paid properly myself. He legit set me up to fail telling me this and that and NOT ONCE followed through with what he said. This is someone who has 2 kids one on the way who was fired from the Casino he worked with at the time for helping us with some stuff. He has yet to be paid.... https://ibb.co/PtCb4w9And Sorsis is the one who said to hire him for 1.5x the pay because of what happened.... that was in september. We are now in November and he hasn't been paid. Wow I am surprised to read this. I saw that Betnomi had some serious problems and accusations against him, but I think you should explanate a little more about what this is all about? You worked for him and he did not have the money to pay you? Man he would change his plans on the fly every couple days to almost hours. Would not inform people. I setup contracts with companies like Blockgeeks etc who were going to do a sports betting guide using our platform but I just stopped talking to them because they guy never does or followed through with ANY TIME FRAME WHICH HE GAVE ME. There is plenty of staff I can get to back up what I say. It was ridiculous. The guy wanted us to keep a TG group going that he made the main Betnomi group off an airdrop which was suicide in itself. If you have any common sense you would look at a group with over 30k members and question the validity of something when NO ONE talks in it. And all the updates that I gave WHICH CAME FROM HIM never were followed through with. He has threatened me with legal actions if I shared exactly what was said and its been a headache enough. Fighting with the guy to just follow through. He wonders why things weren't done properly well maybe its because he never did anything he said he would in the time he said. https://ibb.co/XW84kFhhttps://ibb.co/dtBL52vAnd no I haven't been paid. Also in the first picture, that guy who I was told to hire by Sorsis (an owner) was just left in the dark also, I messaged Sorsis after asking him to talk to his staff (which that is someone he said to hire) and he just set my shit to ignore. Like that is not someone who should be running a company. His goal bottom line is just dollars, customer service doesn't even come into the picture by the way he would continually get me to blow smoke up staff and clients asses alike. So no one who has helped this guy a long the way has been paid and or paid properly. He is just using people. I will update the post if I get paid. The guy even said I quote " Lol you are amazing You will make a good con artist 😂😂😂" When I worked a deal with a client he never thought I was going to get..... I was too stupid to realize the red flag at the time but looking back now..... These comments will be easily overlooked and lost here in this thread. You should create a new thread so this can get the attention it deserves from a more diverse audience. Make sure you follow the guidelines for posting to be taken more seriously.... Below, in the code box is the proper format taken from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.msg2774678#msg2774678. Be sure to read that topic then post in its parent topic. This is the most efficient way to use this forum for what you are dealing with. Good luck. [b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]
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I can't help but smile knowing that for a brief period of time, there existed a 1%-2% "Player's Edge" instead of the usual 1% House Edge. Lol.
All joking aside I'm glad that you are paying attention and showing great professionalism in the way you run bcgame. I'm once again, highly impressed.
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I recently had a look at BC.Game provably fair system. When I checked their crash game provably fair system, I found that the crash game doesn't satisfy provably fair criteria. I am not sure if they overlooked this part, or they intentionally trying to deceive users, so I messaged their customer support, who told me he will inform their developer to have a look. After quite some time, one of their support (or developer?) replied back to me, saying since it is a multiplayer game, their crash game doesn't need any client seed, unlike their individual games. From this point, it is fair to say that they either 1) don't understand fully how provably fair works, in which case they should really stop the game until they understand it, or 2) they are trying to deceive players, especially BitcoinTalk users into having false sense of security. As you probably know, any provably fair system will need some sort of client seed not known/ unguessable and cannot be controlled by the casino, to ensure the results are random and not known to the casino beforehand. BC.Game only uses the 10 millions server hash to generate the result without any client seed. This gave them opportunity to know all the bet results chain beforehand, and could keep on searching for a hash chain that would generate a results chain favorable to them. Their verifier code ( https://bcsnproject.github.io/bcgame-crash/) shows that they didn't use client seed, and when you entered the game hash it output the correct result, meaning they are using this code without client seed to generate result. On other hand, their BitcoinTalk page ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088875.80, page 5) shows that they uses client seed of Block 582,678, but if you were to run this code with their game hash, it doesn't output the same result. I have used third-party software to archived their website and all info. This is done so that 1) if they have changed their website info I still have a record to show, and 2) prevent them from saying I changed their website info such as using google inspector, since the info is captured by third-party which can't be changed. Below are some screenshots for your info. You can check them yourself by visiting their website, until they changed their website info and code.       Hey man. Check this out. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088875.msg52530879#msg52530879 |
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Some Fan Art...... It's cool. I know. |
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Hello everyone, my Name on Side is Bismark & I am Moderator there! The OP in question is a full-time drug addict (LSD, Speed, Cocaine) posting nothing but nonsense. He is most likely ( i am guessing here) a Mod or even Admin from another side who not just only regularly wins on our side, but also trash talks us on every occasion. Just come see him in action in Chat and High Roller ... Furthermore, this screenshot must be over 6 months old .. we updated our chat and Wolfcub is somewhere else since a looooooooooooong time. So OP clearly goes cold-turkey or something to even try this ... we should actually lifetime ban you now, for such audacity !!! I assure you, we are legit .. he knows it, our players know it .. and if you ever give us a try, you will know it as well. Gambling - if you don't understand such terms, provability or House Edge .. stay away! and I say that as a moderator and employee of the Casino In Question. Play responsibly .. only with EXTRA MONEY you could possibly afford to lose (worst case scenario) and you will have tons of fun here, just like everyone else . warm regards Bismark Edit:We want to thank you, for the publicity ... we truly appreciate it! Come see me in chat I send you a lil something something The following will be an always evolving list of his Transactions, until he finally removes this Bogus thread Edit 2: 15th April, 2020 he won 2 jackpots : http://prntscr.com/s413fd 21th April, 2020 he withdraw his Tether winnings http://prntscr.com/s412qm... i will continue this list .. until you see he is full of lies, and only try to extort money from our admin to make him remove such claims. I just became your biggest fan.😍 |
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I am 100% in agreement with BAC here.
Serial scammer Dean Nolan stolen over $400,000 worth of Bitcoin investor bankroll and blamed it on an imaginary hack. Then closed down the failing betking website. On that basis alone Bitsler should not be associating itself with betking regardless of who will benefit in the end. Add to that all the other issues such as the millions of USD$ that serial scammer Dean Nolan stole from the ICO and post-ICO still has not been located.
Sadly a very bad move by Bitsler by associating with betking in any way shape or form.
You clearly just want to attack Dean (probably deserved) without caring for the people who actually lost money to the hack (real or not). Regardless of what actually happened, the most important part should be trying to get those who were scammed to be made whole. I can't believe that you're advocating for Bitsler to not refund legitimate players that happened to lose money because of Dean. I basically just typed out this same response. Good thing I read through before I hit send. I can't say anything about Dean or his character because I only know what I've read here at Bitcointalk and of course from his departure from the CGF. However, I can say with 100% confidence that if Baryom is now involved in any way shape or form, then the community should be thankful for his interest in this situation. I love the fact that instead of dropping $20k on some AdWords campaign of which Google absorbs the lump sum in its entirety, Baryom has found a way to promote Bitsler and keep the entire budget circulating throughout the crypto community. Many refunded players will withdraw and take their ≤$200 to another casino but they will now have an account at Bitsler and one way or another those coins will pass through a Bitsler wallet again. Respect level, unmeasurable. Keep it crypto. post post addendum: I don't know of any scammers that have stuck around 1+ years after the alleged scam trying to make things right. Personally, I hate the "s" word and the semantic shift it's suffered here in this forum. Dear crypto community, Negligence is not the same as a scam or fraud. Let's use our big boy words correctly, please. |
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I dont know why is there so much hate with this new casino game. I think for people to believe that your game is really legit and not manipulated is to post players winnings and losing stats in a gameboard. So they can analyze if the crash game is really manipulated or not, if not, run a bug bounty campaign.
All of your suggestions have been part of this casino forever. Are you posting to the wrong topic or are you just spamming seemingly helpful comments to meet some signature quota? Please be familiar with the topics you are commenting on. It's the only way to be a valuable part of any conversation. |
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Very nice work guys. It looks pretty clean. I'm about to make use of the Bitcoin Lightning deposits right now to test i out. Hopefully I can test out the withdraw feature too. We'll see.
edit: Awesome game. The free spins(or rolls) caught me off guard. I wasn't expecting that. I don't even know what triggered it. lol.
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I know Lightning is Taboo around here but I like to keep an open mind. Anything that spans across multiple blockchains is worth exploring, in my opinion. Bitcoin is OG.
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Bone War was the best event that BC.Game ever had. The layers of the competition were intense. I liked how it had the Dapp token mining feel to it but also that you could wager the mined reward coins made it even more interesting. I would love to see more competitions exactly like this one. You really touched on all the features that made it fun and exciting. It wasn't too long either. The daily payouts for the duration of the event was, of course, great. It gave all participants much needed ammo to compete with.
Congrats to the winners.
I'd like to suggest that you don't change anything and do another one very soon.
Actually, I do have one suggestion. You should have unannounced, short term versions of the same competition. 4-5 hours long to keep players on their toes.
BC.Game is really making some great improvements.
Spoiler: I got to preview the upcoming slots game.... It's unlike anything you will find at any other crypto casino. I'm very excited for its release.
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| ⚡︎⚡︎⚡︎ |  | My brother and I made a Lightning Network directory/portal. www.LappZap.com It's not 100% complete and hopefully it never will be. We are testing these one by one. The quality of the information we are providing is our top priority. If you find any data that is wrong or you feel something is not functional enough to be listed on our website, drop us a line or comment here. We are doing the best we can as a two man team. If you have a project built on or around or even if you have a business that accepts Lightning payments and you want to be added to our website, let us know. We are not charging anything for this. Just send us the relevant details and a few images and at least one 300x300 logo. Chances are your project is already in the queue to be added but contacting us will probably land you a spot on our front page and a bump up the queue. | | ⚡︎⚡︎⚡︎ |
This is not a token. No, we are not raising money. We are doing this as a side project and another contribution to the crypto community. There are about 6 affiliate links on the entire site so I don't see us getting rich because of this. I wish there was more but apparently, Lightning Network devs are terrible at marketing. Lol. Please let us know what you think.
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Did something change with the sigs? I notice a lot of warped sigs that used to look pretty cool.
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I don't think this game is fair because theres been several times
When I bet a good amount of money that the game will say it takes my bet then it disappears and says loading like it bet for the next one and it happens when usually it wants to go up too like 100 or a thousand its bullshit I think I've lost out on a lot of money and they expect me to capture a picture of something that happens so fast and only when u least expect it to to. This is ricky clowers and this I wish I can show more proof of what I say because I no that a lot of the players here would agree with me
I think you might have encountered laggs. For now, I suggest you use Auto Cash OutWhy Is There Internet Lag?Since CRASH is a real-time online game (a game in which customers interact with it via the Internet), there is a delay between the time you click on the “Cash Out” button and the time when the server receives your cash out instruction. The farther away you are from the server and the worse your Internet connection is, the longer it will take for your message to reach the game server. In a perfect environment, your message can travel to the server at the speed of light, but it still takes 134 milliseconds to travel around the world. What's the Use of Automatic Cash Out?The best way to avoid damages caused by Internet lag is to use the automatic cash out function. Since your automatic cash out is sent to the server at the same time when you place your bet, the server can execute your cash out instruction precisely and regardless of the lag. For example, if your connection is bad and you want to cash out at 2x, then we recommend that you set automatic cash out to 2x rather than cash out manually at 2x, because after you click on “Cash Out”, the curve may crash before your message reaches the server. These are the words I am always looking for when I am trying to explain this to noobs. I usually tell them to set their auto cash out, shut up and quit complaining. I like your version here better. |
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Well, happy freaking birthday BitcoinTalk. You have grown up so fast. I sure am glad to see you mature and grow out of your 2017 pants. BitcoinTalk will always be my crypto home and I'm glad to be sharing it with all you other crypto assholes. Here, on your 10th anniversary, I'd like to congratulate you for 8.5 years  of truly unparalleled awesomeness and wish us all another 10 years of hard work and prosperity. |
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