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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud on: October 27, 2016, 03:20:52 AM

Stay away from Poker automatics (https://pokeram.com/),
withdraw all your money ASAP before it is too late !


Here I want to report a deliberately selective scam about Poker automatics, which is a high-yield investment program (HYIP).

But first sorry for my poor English since it is not my native language.

I started investing my money into Poker automatics around November 2014, everything went smoothly, so I increasing my investment from hundreds of dollars to thousands of dollars in the first half year.

On May 30 2015, I truly believe that Poker automatics is a good place to earn quick money, so I boldly invest $12000 into a Level 5 project ($10000~2999-70%-120 days), it means this project will expire on Sep 27 2015 for 120 days, estimated return around 20% every month for 4 months.

Till then I total invest $12000 plus 9 BTC (Bitcoin) into Poker automatics.





Ok, that seems a good deal, and I am really happy earn every day just like Poker automatics has promised.

But on Aug, I came across the series articles by Haley Hintze revealing that Poker automatics is "Likely Return of the Remote Poker Ponzi Scam"

Poker Automatics, Part 1: Likely Return of the Remote Poker Ponzi Scam
http://www.flushdraw.net/news/misc/poker-automatics-p1-likely-return-remote-poker-ponzi-scam/

Poker Automatics, Part 2: Deconstructing a Faked Launch?
http://www.flushdraw.net/news/misc/poker-automatics-part-2-deconstructing-faked-launch/"

Poker Automatics, Part 3: Not-Quite Legit Payments and a Ready-Made Exit Strategy
http://www.flushdraw.net/news/misc/poker-automatics-part-3-not-quite-legit-payments-ready-made-exit-strategy/"

These series articles aroused my suspicion of Poker automatics due to my large amounts of money investing there.

And this suspicion caused me starting screenshot my account and my operations from Sep 25 to Oct 07 prepared as the "proof" in case of some unexpected scam happened.

Unfortunately, my suspicion finally became a reality, and every screenshot I made became the solid proof of a deliberately selective scam.

On Sep 27 2015 when the $12000 120 days project finally expired.









Since reading Haley Hintze series articles, I thought it is not wise and safe to put any of my money there again, and in order to "safely" withdraw all of my money , instead of withdraw all the money at one time, I tried submit a $7000 withdrawal request the same day to test and left the rest $5000 for later withdrawal.

As all the HYIP's rules, where to invest you funds from is where to withdraw your profits to, and Poker automatics has no exception.

My funds source is from my Perfect Money(PM) account U8019013.





According to Poker automatics rule ,there is no ways to change your payment account by yourself except writing support a mail and asking them to change this payment account for you.

Typically there is no reason to change this payment account and you even have no any reason to change your payment account if your payment account runs smoothly.

Sorry for the above lengthy details but it is very important for you to understand how this deliberately scam happened.

The same day On Sep 27 2015 after project expired, I submitted a $7000 withdrawal request .





Sep 27 2015 was sunday, and according to their FAQs it says:

"Withdrawal can take from 1 to 5 working days from the date of registration of the application. Usually it takes less time than mentioned.This is due to the fact that all customers funds are on poker bots accounts in poker rooms and it takes some time
to transfer money."

Due to the large amounts I requested , so I patiently await my money arrive to my Perfect Money(PM) account U8019013.

On Oct 01 2015 ,Thursday, something very strange happened.

When I login Poker automatics , I found my $7000 withdrawal state already changed from "pending" to "completed".





That means they send $7000 to my Perfect Money account U8019013, and strangely enough I didn't receive any mail as usual to notify me my money has arrived to my PM account, and after I checked my PM account found my $7000 still didn't arrive to my account U8019013.

The last time I received this kind of notice was on Sep 28 2015 as follow:





"Received Payment 73.08 USD from account U3129564 to account U8019013. Batch: 103400931. Memo: API Payment.
Invoice 5947201, asksisk.

U3129564 is Poker automatics PM account, they always use this account to send their customers profits.
U8019013 is my PM account as mentioned above.
asksisk is my login account.

When I look into what happened with my $7000, I was astonished to find that my Poker automatics payment account was changed from original U8019013 to an unknown
account not belong to me :U9476692
.





I further checked the $7000 withdrawal  "completed state" found the $7000 was sent to an unknown PM payment account U9476692 also.





Ok, Now the truth is clear enough, someone inside Poker automatics secretly (or openly?) changed my PM payment account to an unknown account not belong to me :U9476692.

No wonder my $7000 withdrawal didn't arrive to my account U8019013, and will never ever have any chance to credit to my account.

I must say, this is totally a deliberately scam scheme, they deliberately try to make an ilusion or an excuse that my $7000 withdrawal has been sent.
(or even evil enough to claim that that unknow account U9476692 is belong to me.)

I immediately submitted a ticket and wrote to support both to ask them to give me an explanation for this very strange phenomenon.

But no any response at all.

On Oct 7 2015, my account was totally blocked, no way to login.





Finally I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 dollars by a deliberately fraud. Angry

Maybe someone will say something like this: you deserve this, don't you see this is highly risky HYIP ,never ever invest that you can not afford to lose.

Yes I know, no HYIP will last forever, but luckily enough, the total funds I lost there is much less than I earned there.

The main goal of my scam report is to warn everybody that my encounter is a strong sign indicating that the fate of Poker automatics is going to its end.

At first they may selectively scam the large funds such as my, and gradually medium funds fall into their victim, and finally reaching the tipping point, Poker automatics will run away with all their customers money!

Good luck everybody, no HYIP will last forever,
especially those who still invest with Poker automatics.

Stay away from Poker automatics, withdraw all your money ASAP
before it is too late !



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