My refund address:  1Ky1TKDV2cvHiNxE45sY4CfKyzkst8P4me

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Cool. I'd still like to pay for the remainder of that 80-something percent of a chip, though, if possible.

I assume the OP won't need our details until the entire order has been escrowed?

1.06 BTC sent

https://blockchain.info/tx/a62302432303f9d98cd4ff4807a8eba0d6ff4ff085eadb2f88caaa1b4d697eea


If possible, I'd like to send a little extra--to pay for the rest of that 0.2xxx% of a chip, and because I'm in Japan and will probably require additional shipping charges. Don't mean to put you out or anything, though; I know my order is pretty small in the big scheme of things. I'd probably be willing to submit a bit more if someone didn't come through, also. Let me know, OP; I'm happy to chip in extra and am very grateful to you for setting this all up!

Apologies if my English is bad!

Put me down for one bitcoin, please! It's been a while since I made a PCB, but it might be fun to dig out the ol' soldering iron and play around a little...

I am. I think that the bitcoin economy is a "real" economy, but agree that Mt.Gox is not a "real" exchange (yet). Mt.Gox is an apple trying to make it in an orange market--and having a difficult time of it.

So what? So what if they're greedy, incompetent, irresponsible f*cktards? Can the bitcoin economy not handle it? If the bitcoin economy is capable of allowing greedy, incompetent, irresponsible f*cktards to climb to a position in which they are capable of destroying said economy, then it deserves its fate... and somewhere, deep down... you know it.

You used bitcoin. You used bitcoin, yet claim you did so knowing that greedy, incompetent, irresponsible f*cktards were running the largest fiat-currency exchange. You claim you didn't like Gox and are mad at them because they "should have been able to do a better job," yet you still put yourself in a position in which you depended on the job they were doing. I'll say it again...

You aren't mad at them. You're mad at yourself, because you placed yourself in a position in which folks you've described as greedy, incompetent, and irresponsible had the ability to f*ck with your life.

"Lie to yourself, if you must, but not to me."

They most certainly are--in comparison to almost any "real" exchange, anyway.

Perhaps not, but given the small time-frame within which they have grown from that trading-card company to the largest bitcoin exchange, their current incompetence becomes, if not forgivable, then certainly somewhat understandable.


You're not really mad at them. You're mad at yourself. Anyone who bothered to do a bit of research and learn a little about their potential to suffer exactly these sorts of growing pains could have seen this coming five miles away. It wasn't like their problems just magically popped up suddenly without any indications whatsoever. Their failures here will serve to strengthen the bitcoin market as a whole in the long run.

Bashing Mt.Gox for the failure of the speculators to realize the potential of a relatively small exchange finding itself thrust into a rapidly growing market and being too unprepared, too incapable, or just too stupid to handle it is just crazy.

There's so much unwarranted Mt.Gox-hate from folks who are, generally speaking, completely responsible for their market position in the first place.

Bitcoin is new, so major exchanges don't take it seriously. The only places that did were tiny folks that used to trade a virtual currency for cards from a nerd-game. The market grew faster than they were ready; it just happened that Mt.Gox actually tried to keep up with it--and did all right for some time.

These issues with Mt.Gox are growing pains. They're to be expected; the fact that so many folks seem to expect them to be able to handle this massive influx of interest without a hitch is pretty silly. There will be hiccups.

Where they go from here will depend entirely on their ability to cope with this most recent bout of malarkey. Either they'll lose market share and others will gain it... or they'll solidify their position even more.

Is ripple still supported by its creators? I was able to create a wallet, but I haven't been able to get any response from the ripple forums--not even an automated email.

I'm a vendor/merchant. I've been doing business in bitcoin, and I like it and believe in it despite its recent volatility.

I've been willing to consider alternative cryptocurrencies, and thus far, ripple seems like a decent bet. I'm not sure that I'm willing to go accepting it for my products just yet...  but I might give it a try. Probably depends on the gateway.

It would *really* be nice to be able to post outside of this newbie forum.

Well, until ASICs built specifically for litecoin are created, anyway. If litecoin gains enough value, ASICs will be created to mine them, and will kill CPU/GPU/FPGA mining.

I think we're in a bubble right now, approaching a peak (I could be wrong); I'm expecting it to be worth somewhat less than or maybe around $100. Could be totally wrong.

Hi. I run an export site that accepts bitcoin (only).

The meteoric rise in bitcoin has killed off my customers; I find myself in the odd position of hoping for a stabilization or collapse--a position that is apparently quite irritating to the hordes of speculators and investors looking to make a quick buck.

Good times.

Joined the forum to thank some folks for the BitcoinWallet v.3.0 (beta). It's the first one that's opened without crashing on my phone.