Plasman may not be as guilty, but he deserves a similar fate.

DYOR, shitcoin, cheaper to buy than mine: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152178.0

It was utter foolishness.

Respect.

Reasons for optimism?

Both, but the mofo was too dumb and too awestruck by his newfound capital to tell the difference. The idiot even blamed the whole world for his own mistakes.

If GAB does not come up with a reasonable plan, that is exactly what it will look like to the whole world. I'm not racist, but since Rijk has been hammering away that NLG is a quintessentially Dutch coin, the failure of NLG will really stink up how the crypto world looks at the Dutch.

These days, Nock seems to be doing other coins and its own IEO.
 

Hey GAB, here's a tip. You want people to come back to your fkced up slack, right? Drop your fcking KYC. Noone who dares to touch your effing coin wants the world to know.

It's all in the adventure and the anarchy, right?

Does that a-hole Rijk still have his hand on the steering wheel? GAB is as silent as a block of wood. Does anyone outside their village know who they are?

I'm no anti-Semite. I have great Jewish friends and associates. That said, my experience with Dor and this shit of a coin -- the vaporware, the "contracts with Qiyi," the phony math formulas on the whiteboard of their office in T"A -- help me to understand why I've sometimes heard in the past "never trust a Jew."

Dor, you really are one awful SOB.

Except that's not the real issue, is it?

Only one course of action left.

I hope your employees in Tel Aviv have other job options.

You speak English. You know what they speak on that shit slack and the crowd they purposefully draw? Plenty of Dutch. Yep, for a time you got an instant invite to the slack if you had an NL email, but not if you had gmail or some undifferentiated account. Get in there and it's a fcking Dutch donut party. Everything is Dutch first. That scares the shit out of other nationalities. Fix that.

Fix Rijk Plasman the Beast Banhammer or as I like to call him the Caveat Emptor because only fools will buy his excuses twice. He's bad, real bad for gulden's image. Karma's a bitch, RP!  Make GAB the frontline of gulden, and for fck's sake GAB grow a spine and think beyond your puppet-master.

Put gulden into some exchanges and spend the fcking reserve on provably worthwhile marketing moves. For fck's sake, don't BEG people to throw their worthless coins into some shady political cause and then say MILLIONAIRE. If you guys carry on like this for the next 2 months when the bulls run, you are fcked.

This fk-up is not doing Rijk Plasman any favors. Public note to GAB: you guys gotta wake up and smell the roses. Get NLG into mainstream adoption.

Quid est veritas? If you go back to my previous posts you would know that many supporters, including myself, have been harping on this problem for years. Rijk Plasman needs to adapt, divest, and spend capital outlay for a publicity campaign and stop dicking around like some local district lottery. Crowdfunding for a local pamphlet campaign? WT effing F? Most importantly, he is widely reviled for his assholery, and his iron-fisted censorship of slack scares all the whales. He should empower others to broaden acceptance of NLG and if possible pursue development in international markets. Those tiny Amsterdam doughnut-and-coffee meetups are fcking pathetic.

What is GAB going to do about this? Keep shouting "trust no-one"? The idiots are betting on a "large online publisher" GeenStijl which if you scratch below the surface (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeenStijl) is just a fringe element, largely rejected by Dutch society and of ZERO interest to the European, much less to the international community. This is the kind of half-truth Rijk has spouted before. He claims to be going mainstream but is desperately getting in bed with these questionable allies because the mainstream public has ignored HIM, and he is just too dumb to adapt or divest or drop a spend into mainstream publicity. He doesn't realize that international supporters need to see solid action, and by that I mean SANE and PROFESIONAL.

GAB looks like just a mere puppet for Rijk and will continue in the same vein. GAB has done nothing to assure me that NLG will be accepted by the mainstream.

Just read some of the Dutch reactions to this desperate stunt:

Die Gulden is niks waard en blijft ook alleen maar dalen.
Skeithuis | 20-03-19 | 07:50  


Is iets omhoog gegaan na de actie van GS maar is nu stabiel en zelfs al iets dalende. Over een maand of zo weer op het oude lage peil.
2voor12 | 20-03-19 | 08:27  


De Gulden premine na oprichting in 2014 besloeg 170 miljoen NLG. Daarvan zijn er vandaag de dag nog 60 miljoen over en is in zijn geheel privé eigendom van Rijk Plasman!

       «« | 20-03-19 | 01:22




Mag dan hopen dat GS een flink bedrag van 5 cijfers of meer heeft gekregen voor deze reclame.

2voor12 | 20-03-19 | 07:49  



@GS. Na het lezen van de comments van o.a. ardeverb lijkt het me een goed idee om dit topic te verwijderen. Denk dat de reclamecode commissie hier niet echt ok mee zal zijn.

Als jullie crypto donaties willen, kies dan gewoon iets degelijks en pomp niet zo'n truc als dit... Mij zijn jullie kwijt als potentieel lid.

Pot Vol Koffie | 20-03-19 | 00:32

Ik vind het ook maar een dubieus verhaal, ja.


obominotie | 20-03-19 | 01:10  



Volgens mij is ardeverb gewoon een alter ego van Rijk Plasman. Als ik stiekem 170.000.000 Guldens had rondslingeren, dan zou ik die koers ook wel omhoog zien gaan. Vergis je niet, op het Gulden Slack kanaal wordt iedereen die enige kritiek heeft zonder melding verwijderd. Het is een heel eng clubje achter die Gulden.

r3msp00r | 20-03-19 | 09:54  

The crack team in Austin are sleeping at the wheel. Fucking wake up already and convert some of your MOUs to bankable projects!

So now we get two versions of the truth from two different people. Who's to be believed? More importantly, what achievements have the GAB lined up to squash these rumors once and for all?

Any idea why FCT is being lumped in with the other alts on Bittrex?

Nobody is suggesting that this thread will replace the "official news." If that scratches your itch, feel free to ignore this thread.

This thread is for free discussion and for "news" you don't always get. Like this

Developer / discord moderator Jack Matier places below-market buy orders on #OTC channel and in other exchanges.


OTOH, the "original topic creator" is always welcome to contribute to vigorous, unmoderated debate here, and to convince us that the ship is set to sail.

The official thread has just been locked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1730273

This is crypto. If you want to get your news and chatter ONLY from "official" sources, treasury bonds may be more your thing.

Moving the conversation forward:

PRO:

1. Quantum-proof coin.
2. Wonderful development potential


CONS:
1. Fcked up publicity. 99% of movers complain that the founder Peter Waterland has not seized the information space, completely unlike the good work that VB has done for ETH. This is the Achilles heel of QRL. He's not really taking a back seat. Several important unilateral decisions were communicated by him, without consulting the community. Is he secretly spinning some shit in the background? It's hard to drum up confidence because of his "Wizard of Oz" modus operandi.
2. Amateur "gig economy" shiller Adam Koltun is appointed the public face of QRL.
3. Developer / discord moderator Jack Matier places below-market buy orders on #OTC channel and in other exchanges. WTF is going on??