I was just thinking that 7% of all Bitcoins were stolen, lost, or whatever, from Mt Gox.  I wonder if that would be enough for price manipulation.   I'm just thinking that their might be more than then monetary value in having that much coin.  I have more thoughts one the matter, but lets see if anyone is interested in this conversation first.

Thats great, and I really appreciate you telling me about it, but not really what I'm looking for. 

Getting the USD back usually isn't the problem.  I think at Gox its only $20 USD for bank wire transfer.  Dwolla is great, and cheap, but does take a few days.  I'm giving campbx a shot.

Yeah I already knew about coinbase, but they sell out all the time.  Not exactly what I was looking for.

There is also bitcoinary.com

I'm talking about exchanges like Gox, bitstamp, and btc-e


Still no idea whats going on with Okpay, and why there is so little activity at campbx?

Thanks.  I wasn't aware of that method

When I tested load balancing, It did not increase my hashrate at all.  In fact I think it went down a little.  just FYI

From the cgminer readme

MULTIPOOL

FAILOVER STRATEGIES WITH MULTIPOOL:
A number of different strategies for dealing with multipool setups are
available. Each has their advantages and disadvantages so multiple strategies
are available by user choice, as per the following list:

FAILOVER:
The default strategy is failover. This means that if you input a number of
pools, it will try to use them as a priority list, moving away from the 1st
to the 2nd, 2nd to 3rd and so on. If any of the earlier pools recover, it will
move back to the higher priority ones.

ROUND ROBIN:
This strategy only moves from one pool to the next when the current one falls
idle and makes no attempt to move otherwise.

ROTATE:
This strategy moves at user-defined intervals from one active pool to the next,
skipping pools that are idle.

LOAD BALANCE:
This strategy sends work to all the pools to maintain optimum load. The most
efficient pools will tend to get a lot more shares. If any pool falls idle, the
rest will tend to take up the slack keeping the miner busy.

BALANCE:
This strategy monitors the amount of difficulty 1 shares solved for each pool
and uses it to try to end up doing the same amount of work for all pools.

Okay first time I put money into an exchange I used Bitfloor and deposited money at Bank of America.  Thats gone.
Next used Dwolla to put money into MtGox, and now thats gone.
This last time I used Okpay to put money into BTC-e, and now thats going away, and I don't even understand why

So whats left?

Is the US getting cut off, or are we going to constantly have to find new way to get our USD in exchanges?

Whats going on with Okpay?

Why is there so little activity on campbx?  They seem like they have plenty of funding options.  Has everyone lost faith in a US based exchange?




And why won't this list tag go away when I edit?[/list]

Cool, thanks!  I was just curious. 

Ever since I stopped mining bitcoin, I've missed getting those extra namecoins.

from the cgminer readme

MULTIPOOL

FAILOVER STRATEGIES WITH MULTIPOOL:
A number of different strategies for dealing with multipool setups are
available. Each has their advantages and disadvantages so multiple strategies
are available by user choice, as per the following list:

FAILOVER:
The default strategy is failover. This means that if you input a number of
pools, it will try to use them as a priority list, moving away from the 1st
to the 2nd, 2nd to 3rd and so on. If any of the earlier pools recover, it will
move back to the higher priority ones.

ROUND ROBIN:
This strategy only moves from one pool to the next when the current one falls
idle and makes no attempt to move otherwise.

ROTATE:
This strategy moves at user-defined intervals from one active pool to the next,
skipping pools that are idle.

LOAD BALANCE:
This strategy sends work to all the pools to maintain optimum load. The most
efficient pools will tend to get a lot more shares. If any pool falls idle, the
rest will tend to take up the slack keeping the miner busy.

BALANCE:
This strategy monitors the amount of difficulty 1 shares solved for each pool
and uses it to try to end up doing the same amount of work for all pools.

So you can mine multiple pools. 

This might be a stupid question, but I was just wondering if its possible to mine both coins at the same time.  I know that you can set multiple pools in cgminer, and both Litecoin and Novacoin use scrypt.  So I was wondering if I set 2 mining pools, one Litecoin and the other Novacoin, if I could mine both?

No I didn't but I'm not sure how that will make a difference

No luck.  Same thing.  Oh well

I'll give it a try

I got 4 cards in right now

* 0. 01:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
  1. 02:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
  2. 04:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
  3. 07:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series    

All the cards showed up

00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Complex
00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) I/O Memory Management Unit
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port
00:03.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port
00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port
00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port
00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Root Port
00:10.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB XHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:10.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB XHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40)
00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB EHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB EHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson SMBus Controller (rev 14)
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller (rev 01)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson LPC Bridge (rev 11)
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson PCI Bridge (rev 40)
00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:15.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 43a0
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 0
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 1                                                                                                                                                                            
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 2                                                                                                                                                                            
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 3                                                                                                                                                                            
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 4                                                                                                                                                                            
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 5                                                                                                                                                                            
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 6819                                                                                                                                                                                            
01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device aab0                                                                                                                                                                                                        
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 6819                                                                                                                                                                                            
02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device aab0                                                                                                                                                                                                        
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)                                                                                                                                                    
04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 6819                                                                                                                                                                                            
04:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device aab0                                                                                                                                                                                                        
05:00.0 USB controller: Etron Technology, Inc. EJ168 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 01)                                                                                                                                                                                          
07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 6819                                                                                                                                                                                            
07:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device aab0    

Everything shows up.  It just doesn't work, and I couldn't find any settings in the BIOS that would help.  Oh well I guess I need to buy another motherboard.  Would have been nice, and saved me some money, but nothing ever seems to go as planned.  

I feel like your avatar lol

I see now, but the cards showed up in all but that one slot.  Its when I went to test if everything was working with that I had problems.

Shows cards in all slots but the #2

But when I test with  and is when things go wrong

I'm going to try some bios setting first, and then maybe the pin shorting.

Not sure what that is.  Tried looking it up.  Found mention of it, but nothing telling me what it is.

It did lead me to some possible bios settings that might help.

I got 6 7850's, and I tried to put them all on one mobo using unpowered riser cables.  I'm running Xubuntu 12.04, cgminer 3.0.0, Catalyst 12.08.  The motherboard is a GIGABYTE FM2 AMD A85X with 3 PCI-E x1 slots and 3 PCI-E x16 slots.  I'll provide links.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128566
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004

Here are my results

0  (x1)  Yes
1  (x16) Yes
2  (x1)  No
3  (x1)  Does not even show up
4  (x16) Yes
5  (x16) Yes

So I disconnected the #2 and #3 cards, and this is what happened

0  (x1)  Yes
1  (x16) Yes
2  (x16) No
3  (x16) No

So I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.  I was using 2 750w power supplies.  If there is some trick to making this work, I would really like to know, but for the time being I'm going back to using 3 cards per board. 

Thoughts and comments, are very much appreciated.

Thanks

The attic is well vented so no need to an attic fan, and the fan should help cool it off as well.

I feel like I'm a little kid and its show and tell.  Thanks for the replies guys.