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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling A Hobby? on: Today at 07:09:41 AM

Of course, we can differentiate between good and bad things, including the impacts that will occur, therefore we should be careful in making decisions that will determine the future. The large number of people who become addicted to gambling and experience many losses, in my opinion, should be a consideration not to make gambling a hobby, even those who do not consider gambling as a hobby can experience many losses and bad impacts.

If someone considers gambling to be a hobby for him then it can be said that he has carried out activities that contain high risks because basically gambling has a very bad impact if someone does it excessively.
If you haven't already, you should look for a hobby that is useful and doesn't involve high risks.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never borrow money to be able to gamble on: Today at 06:41:57 AM
They will have to swallow the hardest pill because soon they will come to realize that no man is an island, and they need someone's help.

With that, they will humble themselves to the friends that haven't tolerated them but instead given an advice on how they should deal with their addiction.

And saying that taking a loan for gambling is never been a good thing and it only going to cause more problems to their personal lives.

Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
A gambler that borrows for gambling is an outrageous thing.

And it's more than that if a gambler tries to take people's loan for their gambling sake. So, a gambler borrowing someone's borrowed money is totally out of this world.

I know that it sounds odd and unlikely but this truly happens in real life. I remember my childhood when some of my neighbors did this and I just come to realize how crazy it is.

Of course, because borrowing money to gamble is a mistake and this is actually beyond the limits of good steps and behavior in carrying out gambling. Indeed, this sounds very strange and unreasonable, but the facts on the ground are that this often happens and is done to gamblers who are addicted because their bad behavior triggers them to gamble as much as possible, even in extreme ways and beyond good common sense.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you achieved anything from gambling on: Today at 06:35:15 AM

It might be a pleasure if anyone know the bad effects of gambling before gambling. But when the people will loss the fund on gambling whether the person know the bad effects of gambling or not they gambler will be affected and suffered a lot.

Apart from being fun, it will also have a good impact, namely reducing the number of gamblers who will enter. If someone already knows and understands very well about the bad impacts that often occur from other gamblers, then the lay person will probably think twice about whether he still wants to enter or he just wants enough. Just know about the activities of other gamblers and just watch
When a person gambles and loses cash, other gamblers may stop gambling after seeing it. However, when a gambler slowly becomes addicted to gambling, even if another gambler loses a large amount of money by gambling, the other gamblers do not learn from his condition, but they continue to gamble constantly. At one point in time they become so addicted to gambling that they cannot come out of the game even if they want to.  A lesson should be learned from the individual as a consequence of gambling so that such a situation does not happen to anyone else.

Concluding your opinion above, it is possible that if a novice gambler sees directly the losses that other gamblers often experience, he will tend to think it would be best to just stop because he anticipates that he will also lose at that time.
However, for gamblers who are addicted, even though they have seen firsthand the losses of other gamblers, it is not certain that they will immediately stop because the influence of this addiction makes a gambler blind to the high risks involved in gambling activities.
4  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Efek Samping dari Vaksin AstraZeneca on: May 26, 2024, 07:27:52 AM
Ketika pemerintah menyarankan untuk semua masyarakat di Indonesia serentak melakukan vaksin demi tujuan untuk pencegahan penyebaran virus covid-19 namun pada saat itu saya dan keluarga saya awalnya bersikeras untuk mengikuti program itu, namun apalah daya jika tidak ikut vaksin kita susah untuk bepergian ke mana-mana karena pada saat itu kita ingin pergi ke luar rumah saja harus bisa menunjukkan kartu vaksin dan itu sudah diwajibkan.
Ya terpaksa saya dan keluarga mengikuti program itu dan alhamdulillah meskipun terkadang saya dan keluarga mengalami gejala-gejala yang sudah ditulis oleh OP diatas namun kami berharap semoga itu tidak berbahaya dan yang terpenting selalu berpikir positif dalam segala kegiatan apapun itu.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never borrow money to be able to gamble on: May 26, 2024, 07:14:28 AM

 And as we know it's mostly someone who's addicted to gambling that would be so desperate to loan money for gambling, I mean a responsible gambler won't even think of such cause they know the consequences and how it could affect them.

As a result of the despair, addicts began to think he should borrow money from his friends to be able to play gambling, but for gamblers who are responsible they will try to behave wisely in each decision because they already know the great risk if they take such actions.


Greedy gamblers will not thinks about the other thinks because they only focus with their gambling activity and will prepare more money to keeps playing gambling. Even if they borrow money from other people, that will be okay for them and they can makes thousand reasons to those who wants to lend them money. If one person don't wants to helps them, they will search the other people until they can gets person that will lend some money.
Yes by concluding your opinion above it is true that gamblers who are addicted to have many ways or reasons for others to launch their gambling activities such as an example of addicts who borrow money with the reason to find family care or reasons to pay for their son's school and of course there are people will help him because you have compassion because you want to help him.


Often gamblers who are too greedy or have a gambling addiction realize their mistake when it is too late when they need help from others about their gambling which has gotten out of control and maybe they realize when their addiction has caused them to have debts everywhere because the gambler gambled with borrowed money

True, regret will be felt when gamblers have experienced a bad life that is having debts everywhere, property has run out for sale and of course the household relationship will be falling apart and he starts immediately realizing that his behavior has been very wrong and fatal to forgiveness.
Then he began to look for someone just to tell about the bad experiences that had befallen him with the aim of easeing the burden of the problem in his life and find solutions in the future to be even better
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does addicted gamblers only lose money all the time on: May 26, 2024, 06:39:40 AM
Gamblers who are addicted will continue to play gambling until their desires are fulfilled and it can be concluded that due to excessive behavior, gamblers who are addicted to clearly experience a lot of loss of money due to frequent betting in the maso and defeat.

But that does not mean that gamblers who are addicted can not get a victory if on that day he is getting good fortune so the luck of victory he will get too.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: May 26, 2024, 05:34:11 AM
Someone hooked on gambling might seem like they're making crazy choices, borrowing from loan sharks or even stealing. But imagine a powerful urge, like a riptide pulling you towards a dangerous wave. That's what addiction can feel like – overwhelming and hard to resist. It's not just about wanting money; it's about chasing that dopamine rush, the feel-good chemical in your brain that screams "more, more, more!" even when everything crumbles around you.
But can't someone be addicted to gambling and live a decent life? Like, the person can just be addicted and spend all the time he has in the world on gambling, and all the money he could have used on other things, they spend it all on gambling.
 
Can't they just focus and use their personal belongings for gambling, even if it's about them selling them off in order to make money? Must they be involved in crime and stealing or even borrowing money that they can't pay before we will know that they hate gambling? I know some will say gambling addiction is graded level by level, but you see, this part of them stealing is something I don't understand.
If a gambling addict has no cash income, is unemployed, spends his life gambling, his family pays a heavy price. If he has no income, he gambles with money from the family to make money, or if he can win a single bet away, his self-confidence doubles, and he loses twice as much as if he bet twice as much and wins. He returned home in hand. There are gamblers who constantly gamble and slowly accumulate debt, which may not have the ability to pay back the debt, and eventually have to pay with their own lives.
It is true that you say if addicts do not have their own income, namely by working daily, then he will definitely make a distress in his family members as a result of his bad behavior addicts often cause new problems in his own family life.
Yes, like the example you have said, namely addicts in debt everywhere and he cannot pay for him alone, his family will also bear the burden to pay the debt and maybe the items in his house will be sold to pay off the debt.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you achieved anything from gambling on: May 26, 2024, 01:54:37 AM

It might be a pleasure if anyone know the bad effects of gambling before gambling. But when the people will loss the fund on gambling whether the person know the bad effects of gambling or not they gambler will be affected and suffered a lot.

Apart from being fun, it will also have a good impact, namely reducing the number of gamblers who will enter. If someone already knows and understands very well about the bad impacts that often occur from other gamblers, then the lay person will probably think twice about whether he still wants to enter or he just wants enough. Just know about the activities of other gamblers and just watch
9  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [diskusi] Bagaimana Cara Mengatur Waktumu di Forum? on: May 25, 2024, 08:07:22 AM
Dulu di awal-awal ane main signature dan bounty, ane membuat jadwal khusus untuk berforum dan me-linkednya ke alarm di HP sehingga ane bisa memanajemen waktu. Dulu itu memang lagi sibuk-sibuknya ane di pekerjaan offline sehingga harus membuat jadwal supaya bisa mengatur dengan leluasa untuk ngepost di sini. Namun, seiring berjalannya waktu, ane telah terbiasa, sehingga jadwal dan alarm tidak ada setting lagi saat ini. Disamping pekerjaan offline tidak terlalu banyak, sekarang ini untuk ngepost di forum sudah menjadi rutinitas, sehingga sudah terbiasa dan tidak begitu mengganggu waktu walau sesibuk-sibuknya ane di pekerjaan offline.
Ini contoh bisa karena terbiasa dan terbiasa karena dipaksa mas Cheesy
Awalnya memang kita dipaksa untuk ada dan bukti bahwa menyetel alarm harian itu karena memang agar kita tidak lupa bahwa kita harus melakukan kewajiban yang harus dijalankan tetapi ketika memang kita sudah terbiasa atau bahasa simple nya kita sudah memiliki celah dari segi waktu dan bagaimana melakukannya kita sudah tidak membutuhkan alarm karena memang kita sudah terdoktrin untuk melakukan hal itu karena kebiasaan awal yang memang datang dari dipaksa terlebih dahulu sehingga memang ada alarm alami dimana kita menganggap ini sebagai rutinitas yang tidak bisa dihilangkan.
Kalau untuk yang baru-baru mungkin agak kagok atau terkejut, tapi lama-lama pasti akan terbiasa, apa lagi kalau sudah tahunan. Ane bikin akun tahun 2020, dan saat itu memang masih banyak belajar, namun lambat laun setelah sekian bulan, ane mulai dapat job signature dan mulai mengatur waktu untuk memposting di sini. Awal mula memang cukup berat, karena bahan dan topik belum banyak ane kuasai, belum lagi saat itu lagi sibuk-sibuknya ane ke lapangan untuk survey pengeboran minyak. Sehingga ane dipaksa untuk berpikir keras bagaimana cara mengatur itu semua. Alhamdulillah bisa, dari keterpaksaan itu membuahkan hasil yang bisa terus ane nikmati sampai sekarang.


Sama seperti yang dialami oleh semua anggota SFI disini gan, termasuk saya pribadi.
Pada saat saya mulai masuk di forum ini saya berpikir apakah saya sanggup membagi waktu dalam berbagi tugas dengan pekerjaan saya di lapangan dan apakah nantinya pekerjaan saya dilapangan akan terganggu oleh kegiatan di forum ini.

Al hasil seiring berjalannya waktu lambat laun saya mulai belajar sedikit demi sedikit bagaimana caranya saya bisa menjalankan kegiatan kedua duanya dan yang pasti tidak membebani pikiran saya pribadi dan alhamdulillah secara tidak langsung  saya mulai terbiasa dengan kegiatan keduanya dan sampai saat ini antara pekerjaan saya dilapangan dan di forum tidak saling bertabrakan dan pastinya saya nyaman menjalani keduanya dengan tidak ada beban paksaan dalam berpikir.  Grin
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never borrow money to be able to gamble on: May 25, 2024, 07:31:29 AM

They will have to swallow the hardest pill because soon they will come to realize that no man is an island, and they need someone's help.

With that, they will humble themselves to the friends that haven't tolerated them but instead given an advice on how they should deal with their addiction.

And saying that taking a loan for gambling is never been a good thing and it only going to cause more problems to their personal lives.

Yes, for gamblers who are greedy and addicted, their lives will definitely suffer because of the consequences of their wrong thinking patterns and behavior, and they immediately regret it and realize it when it is too late, namely that their lives often have problems continuously and they are unable to solve these problems quickly. Only then did he try to ask other people for help to ease the burden of problems in his life.
But will the other person want to help him because previously he was just ignored? obviously this is not possible.
It is clear that borrowing other people's loans is not recommended for gamblers and this should be avoided as much as possible by gamblers.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: May 25, 2024, 07:24:49 AM

Maybe we can tell them about the bad effects that will occur if they gamble excessively or by giving them other advice that will make them have self-control so they don't take big risky actions. with those of us who are experienced, of course we know what to do for those who are still beginners, especially if the beginners are our own brothers or relatives. If you are with relatives who are still the same as me and are not married but already have an income, I will not forbid it, but will give advice not to be reckless in gambling.

Yes, it's a good step to tell beginners about the bad experiences that experienced gamblers have had and hopefully this step can really make beginners aware so they don't get addicted to the gambling they do.
And I hope that beginners can be more careful because the temptation before their eyes is definitely waiting for them.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction does more harm than mere financial loss on: May 25, 2024, 05:09:59 AM

We must thinks about how if we lose the money and we can't repay the money.

It is absolutely correct if we have thoughts like what you said, namely when we lose and we have already borrowed money from other people then we are responsible for being able to return it as best we can because that is an obligation and if we don't have the money then what should we do immediately? do we still want to borrow money just to gamble or gamble only using as much money as we can because that's the safest step and doesn't carry a big risk.


If someone decides to indulge in gambling, then they should be wise enough in spending their money. Being too greedy in gambling is not good at all and many gamblers even go bankrupt just because they are too confident in their chances of winning. Gambling winnings do not depend on how often you gamble, but they depend heavily on luck except in some skill-based games.
Policies and a sense of discipline must be possessed by all gamblers so that when they carry out their gambling activities they know the right steps to take and the bad ones must not be done. They also definitely realize that casinos have high risks so they do not fully expect to get lucky there but rather just having fun.
And I agree with you, gamblers who are greedy for their winnings in gambling will one day experience failure and a lot of losses because of their bad behavior, because being greedy or greedy has a very bad meaning for any activity because it tends to be excessive in carrying out it. or expect results.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never borrow money to be able to gamble on: May 25, 2024, 01:51:09 AM

IMHO, the gambler will eventually realize that the care is there from the true friend that suggests him to quit and doesn't tolerate his addiction.

He may think as much as he can that he's not getting help and they're not real friends. But as we have said, real friends will never tolerate their friends for their bad actions.

And those actions are going to put them into a bad situation that they may have hard time of getting out.


Yes, awareness will definitely come after someone experiences feelings that are unfair to themselves, even though behind all that there must be a reason why other people have carried out this behavior towards the gambler, with the aim of making the gambler immediately aware and able to stop being addicted to gambling.
However, if the gambler can restrain and control his emotions well then the friendship will be fine, but if the gambler has a tough character and is easily emotional, the friendship will definitely be strained.
It is the gambler's problem if he's got a tough character when he can't adjust even if he's the one in need. In need of loan and in need of someone to be there for him.

That's the hard thing nowadays when you're in need and you cannot adjust your attitude and you're the one having trouble to your own life. And when your friends give you advises on what you must do to have a good ending, you will not like them because you'll justify that you are living your life in your own.

Yes, because of his tough nature, he thinks that he is good at managing himself in gambling and he also feels that he is the right one and doesn't need other people's help in any form.
And it's true what you said, this is something that is very difficult to improve in the form of better self-control because people like this are not easily given good advice, in fact they just ignore it and think that good advice is just nonsense.
If we meet someone like this, it's better to keep quiet and see how long it takes for him to realize that he will immediately stop the selfishness within him and let him realize his bad behavior himself.
14  Economy / Lending / Re: DarkStar's Loans | BTC, USDT on: May 24, 2024, 05:18:01 AM

Thank you again DarkStar
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15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you achieved anything from gambling on: May 24, 2024, 04:24:29 AM

Indeed, every gambler has self-control in playing gambling, there are gamblers who control themselves to limit the types of gambling games they will play, there are also gamblers who control themselves regarding the limits of time and money that should be used to play gambling and there are also gamblers who can only control themselves individually. controlling emotions and behavior when playing gambling.

It's your counter to prevent yourself getting too engage and if you are planning to achieve something from this industry, you must have this capability to control yourself, if you can't set a limit there's always a bad effects and instead of achieving you may lose more from your deposit and may harm your finances.


Of course, in carrying out gambling we must have the ability to control ourselves in all forms in order to avoid having a bad impact on us and self-control also has a good impact, namely that we do not become addicted to gambling because if someone is already addicted then all actions will be negative. excessively and they often make many mistakes every time they gamble.
Even though we want to gamble, apart from having fun and making our hearts happy, on the contrary, we will experience adversity and regret.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: May 24, 2024, 01:50:03 AM
when we gamble with good self-control, of course the losses that will occur will not be too big, but we should be able to minimize the losses that will occur, being aware that gambling will only make us experience losses because the chance of losing is greater than Winning is real, for beginners, I hope they are not careless in gambling. Don't just think about the winning side, you can also think about the losing side too.
Of course, good self-control will bring good results for us, especially when carrying out gambling activities, by having good control we are not careless in every decision we make and this will also help us to minimize the loss of a lot of money.
And winning or losing is real and will definitely happen. We as gamblers must be able to understand it so that it doesn't burden us and make us stressed thinking about it.

maybe beginners usually won't be aware of this, especially those who can win at the beginning of the gambling they do, they will probably only think about being able to win by gambling until they have the thought of being able to make money by gambling, of course this will make So they continue to gamble without looking at the risks, and maybe with one or two losses they won't really care about it, but after that, when they have experienced consecutive losses and are still gambling, this is where they can be seen that they don't have good self-control, of course. We can remind them to gamble appropriately, so that they don't get trapped by their own thoughts, as in many cases that have happened.

It's true what you said, gambling will only end in two things, namely winning or losing. but what is clear is that defeat will happen more often, and here we have to be able to understand it well so that we don't have a feeling of being fined, or a feeling of wanting to recover losses that have occurred because if that happens then what can happen is losing more money instead of being able to make a profit. Money.
That's right, because beginners don't have much understanding and knowledge about gambling, they are not yet optimal in how to control themselves correctly and appropriately when playing gambling.
Yes, as you said, if in the beginning beginners win, they easily get trapped by the tricks in the casino, namely beginners become more aggressive in playing and chasing wins again and again.
And then what beginners get is far from happiness and the feeling of regret that beginners get is because they are too selfish in pursuing victory and spend a lot of money so that they suffer losses.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never borrow money to be able to gamble on: May 24, 2024, 01:40:57 AM

IMHO, the gambler will eventually realize that the care is there from the true friend that suggests him to quit and doesn't tolerate his addiction.

He may think as much as he can that he's not getting help and they're not real friends. But as we have said, real friends will never tolerate their friends for their bad actions.

And those actions are going to put them into a bad situation that they may have hard time of getting out.


Yes, awareness will definitely come after someone experiences feelings that are unfair to themselves, even though behind all that there must be a reason why other people have carried out this behavior towards the gambler, with the aim of making the gambler immediately aware and able to stop being addicted to gambling.
However, if the gambler can restrain and control his emotions well then the friendship will be fine, but if the gambler has a tough character and is easily emotional, the friendship will definitely be strained.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction does more harm than mere financial loss on: May 24, 2024, 01:29:28 AM
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Agree with you, borrowing money to gamble is a mistake because we don't know whether we will win or maybe we will lose, and it is true that if we win it is easy to return it immediately, but if we lose then we will be confused and anxious about how to get the loan money back immediately.
And I really agree with you that if we are addicted to gambling then we might forget to immediately return the loan money because we are already easily tempted by all the types of games that exist and we see it directly and over time then we will definitely object or have difficulty immediately return the loan money.
Gambling was created for fun, but most gamblers use it to try their luck. Some of them become so addicted that it becomes too difficult to control, so clearly this is a mistake that must be changed. Customers who actually use gambling to make money are likely to be bad gamblers and lose more money, while those who gamble for fun can likely stop at any time responsibly.

Lending to gamble, spending savings to gamble, selling valuables to gamble are very bad things for a gambler to do. If gambling is forced, it is very difficult to win, meaning that winning is much more likely to be obtained when the gambler does it when his mood and thoughts are good.
You are absolutely right, mistakes like this must be changed immediately by changing our perspective on gambling itself, that luck in gambling is very difficult to obtain so we should not overdo it and if it is only used for fun then we must also have A wise and responsible attitude, as you have said, is that if the situation is not good for us, then we immediately stop for a moment.
Totally agree with you, it would be better to play gambling using as much money as you can or reasonably and if you don't have money then don't force yourself to keep doing it and it's not like we'll be close to winning but instead winning will be far away from us so that what happens is only defeat and defeat and of course we will also experience huge financial losses there.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction does more harm than mere financial loss on: May 23, 2024, 02:39:02 PM
When the gambling addiction has reached the extent of having to borrow money even from banks or loan merchants to fuel your gambling desires, then its obvious the damages being caused is now more than mere financial loss, the person is putting himself and his family in serious debt and such harms not only the gambler, but his family's reputation and causes them serious problems trying to settle his shortcomings in order to save face in the society.

I remember clearly when my brother was stuck in gambling addiction, I literally pay for his debt accumulations almost daily so that my parents would not be fully aware of the length he goes in his gambling spree in order to conserve the health of my ageing parents and most importantly my father who has High blood pressure and Sugar problems. It worked at that period, but it cost me a lot of useful money that I would have utilized properly for my own benefits, but I'm grateful it didn't cost me my dad as well.

Gambling addiction affects the person, his finances, reputation and so does it affect his loved ones as well, loans are very bad quite alright because of its high interests, and worse when it's not being used for profitable ventures. The ugliest thing is that the interests keep accumulating and piling up more financial losses for whom it may concern at a later time to save the gambler.
When someone decide to borrows money to playing gambling, that will be the worst decision that he makes because he will have to pay the debt the other money whether he wins or lose. If he wins, he can pay the debt using his wins money, but if he lose, he must search for the other money to repay it. The problems is when he doesn't have any money to repay and that problem will be bigger if he still borrow money from other people just to repay his debt. Not to mentions about the chance of gets addicted to gambling after he borrows money for some time because gambling can attracts someone to keeps playing gambling without he can stops. When someone becomes addicted to gambling, that will makes his financial becomes worst. He will lose all of his money without have a big chance to gets his money back by keeps playing gambling. That's why if you wants to playing gambling, you must uses the money you can afford to lose and never borrow money from other people so you can avoids to repay the money.

Agree with you, borrowing money to gamble is a mistake because we don't know whether we will win or maybe we will lose, and it is true that if we win it is easy to return it immediately, but if we lose then we will be confused and anxious about how to get the loan money back immediately.
And I really agree with you that if we are addicted to gambling then we might forget to immediately return the loan money because we are already easily tempted by all the types of games that exist and we see it directly and over time then we will definitely object or have difficulty immediately return the loan money.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do some people hide to gamble on: May 23, 2024, 01:43:18 AM

hiding gambling is based on your own understanding within your environment so many people who hide and the Gamble they do that based on did not like people to notice that yes there are a gambler I have not seen anything wrong keeping gambling in secret on your own so I basically known gambling is all about what you planned for and what you want to achieve

Exactly, hiding gambling activities is not a very bad or good thing for us in society because gambling can be well accepted and there are also those who think gambling is bad and in my opinion that is normal.
Nowadays gambling has developed very rapidly in society so that this activity is seen openly. However, what determines whether we are good or bad in the eyes of society is how we use gambling itself, whether we can control ourselves in carrying out gambling or not. If we can control it then I think society will not think badly of the casino we are running, on the other hand, if we use it excessively then it will definitely have bad consequences for us and society will also judge us badly about ourselves.
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