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Ken are you able to mention anything today about the Hashfast situation or future develops for the company? I know there are many who may be interested in keeping their shares despite all this MSD stuff.
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It's in kens best interest to pay out the .0025 to the 10mill first
It's in the business prospectus to pay out the 0.0025 first, so there's really no way around it without creating a shitstorm. |
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Next week I will start transferring shares to CT so our investors can start trading.
Can I highly recommend using Cryptomex.io instead? They will be launching very soon. What about Havelock? I am not interested in selling my shares and getting out. I am interested in trading. Havelock already has several successful companies listed and a lot of daily traffic. The BTC is already there. They are established and organized and easy to use. If there is fear about an exchange closing, how is Havelock trusted less than Crypto-Trade or Cryptomex.io for that matter? Edit: If we move over to Crypto-Trade, with such a limited user base, the share price after all this good news is going to mean very little except to the lucky few able to have their orders filled immediately. We would not have that problem on Havelock. |
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Banana for scale, please. For the skeptics.
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Shibles, have faith. very christmas. you can do it!@ wow.
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Yeah me too. I'm trying to make sense of it. Could be the pressure he's under with people stalking his family, the death threats and never ending abuse he get's from this thread. Oh, and the fact he's human.
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Ken,
I want to say first, thank you for the work you are doing for the company and your resolve in operating in such a competitive environment and with so much at stake.
For the past several hours, many of the top shareholders have met in IRC and discussed the "communication issue" as we see it. We have received sporadic communication from you for various reasons having to do with operating under an NDA as well as SEC guidelines. We also understand the desire to keep certain proprietary information hidden from competitors.
Due to communication being so tight, we are in a position where we do not currently KNOW why chips are delayed. It was implied that this was a choice made by you so that Intellihash could be implemented. We believe that competing effectively is necessary for AMC's success, however we have no information as to how Intellihash affects our timeline.
While we are not yet listed on an exchange, we are making a public request that you assent to not sell any of your personal ACTM shares until it can be verified that customers have received their shipped orders and until shareholders have a more clear understanding of the timeline moving forward.
This is simply a request to demonstrate good-faith and help re-establish trust among shareholders.
Please respond to this before we go live on Crypto-Trade.
Thank you for everything and keep up the great work!
-- ActiveMining shareholders
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I wonder if there are any female ActiveMining investors?
Great question, I wonder that too! |
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After discussing the current issues in some detail with a few top shareholders in IRC, we would like to open the discussion further. I am assembling a meeting from among the top shareholders to discuss how to best approach the "communication issue" we are experiencing in a constructive and diplomatic manner.
Please PM me if you are top shareholder.
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VE, you didn't respond to my PM about this, so I am asking here. In another thread you said: Prototype/Low Volume chips to VMC in a 5-10 week time frame after the RTL code for the ASIC chip is ported to their chip and the timing on the
chip has been closed.Also, I have directly talked to a customer who has received a VMC machine. You will see the post within the next couple days, don't worry.  Can you elaborate on this? Who is the customer? Are they on this forum? |
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This only tells us that Ken has rented an office, that he has access to power supplies and cases, and that he is registered to do business in Missouri. We need some criteria by which to judge whether the Intelihash software is bogus, and if it's not bogus that it is at least feasible. We need to confirm that customers are receiving "products" and determine that they contain eASIC chips within the range of specifications we were initially given. I am willing to go to Missouri to meet with Ken this weekend if we can, together, come up with criteria that will satisfy all our blind spots and still maintain whatever level of "strategic silence" is justified. |
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Good grief, this thread (and tbh, this entire forum) makes it impossible to find actual updates. Maybe someone should start a self moderated thread? Oh wait.
Seriously though. It's getting outrageous having to wade through the 60,000 posts of irrelevant bullshit to get to any sort of substantial posts. There just really isn't any meaningful discussion today it seems. I keep checking for concrete evidence. A picture of a QFN reflow/soldering station, something, anything.. Is this standard equipment that any "Engineering Firm" would possess, which you could recognize at a glance, and which would verify that Ken possesses the physical tools needed to turn eASIC chips into something we can use for VMC/AMC purposes? If Ken can get a picture of these things without revealing the identity of the Engineering Firm (which it seems he does not want to reveal), we should press him on it. On the other hand, perhaps there is something else -- some other tool or physical component of this operation -- that we could agree upon which would satisfy shareholders. I have not had any problems with Ken's approach until the Intelihash thing. This is just something that I cannot verify for myself or understand in a straightforward manner and right now we lack a VBS to communicate the more technical end of things. We have reached the point where Ken is not performing the due diligence required to maintain trust. This pic was plenty convincing for everyone here 'till now, what changed? (Follow this link for extra lolz.)  Honestly, crumbs, I'm not sure. At the time Ken was communicating with us a bit more frequently, we had proof of incoming chips, proof of a well-chosen facility to house our equipment, and a VBS able to speak confidently on the technical details and the feasibility of the operation given what we knew and the information we had access to. The eASIC press release scored major points with a lot of us. However, now we know the chips are late and it does not appear that any of us are able to piece together the Intelihash thing. It makes sense strategically for Ken to mums the word on the details, however it could also be a stall tactic allowing Ken some kind of exit. We are about to be on a new exchange and I don't want to see Ken selling off a bunch of his shares before giving us bad news. [EDIT] I should clarify that I don't have any problems with Ken personally and am not raising the alarm on this being a scam (it makes more financial sense from Ken's perspective to legitimately see this through), but honestly that doesn't really matter. Scams can be invest-able too if you have a way to exit. We are in an interim period where, without a trading platform, we are not able act in any capacity and so the blind spots we have have become much more important. |
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Good grief, this thread (and tbh, this entire forum) makes it impossible to find actual updates. Maybe someone should start a self moderated thread? Oh wait.
Seriously though. It's getting outrageous having to wade through the 60,000 posts of irrelevant bullshit to get to any sort of substantial posts. There just really isn't any meaningful discussion today it seems. I keep checking for concrete evidence. A picture of a QFN reflow/soldering station, something, anything.. Is this standard equipment that any "Engineering Firm" would possess, which you could recognize at a glance, and which would verify that Ken possesses the physical tools needed to turn eASIC chips into something we can use for VMC/AMC purposes? If Ken can get a picture of these things without revealing the identity of the Engineering Firm (which it seems he does not want to reveal), we should press him on it. On the other hand, perhaps there is something else -- some other tool or physical component of this operation -- that we could agree upon which would satisfy shareholders. I have not had any problems with Ken's approach until the Intelihash thing. This is just something that I cannot verify for myself or understand in a straightforward manner and right now we lack a VBS to communicate the more technical end of things. We have reached the point where Ken is not performing the due diligence required to maintain trust. |
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Cool, so anyone who doesn't have a photo can just log in to Bitfunder and take those details from their logs.
Yes, if Bitfunder comes back up. Should anyone not have access to that information, we will use their registered Bitcoin address as a backup. i want to understand that bolded sentence, do you mean you have list of user and associated btc address, The public asset list is here: https://bitfunder.com/assetlist.json. If you can sign from the address listed, you will have no problem claiming the shares. If you can't, you can work with Ukyo using your Bitfunder account login to claim the shares. Either way I don't think there will be any problem. |
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Hang on a tick? What this about having a record of the transfer to AMC-TENDER? That wasn't in the original set of instructions. Investors who fail for any reason to provide the information necessary to obtain "Verified" status on Bitfunder are encouraged to transfer their shares on BitFunder to the Bitfunder user AMC-TENDER no later than November 13, 2013 before dividends are paid. All Investors transferring their shares to this account will continue to accumulated dividends on their shares. Once Bitfunder is back up you can log in and get the record of the tender. If you did not tender or do not have the record, Ukyo is providing all asset issuers with the appropriate records within a few days (hopefully). It was supposed to happen on Dec. 2nd but apparently was delayed. |
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Hi there,
My Bitfunder shares were auto-tendered to NEOBEE by Ukyo on Dec. 2 and I am wondering what the procedure is to have those shares transferred to my Havelock account. I can sign from my address. Please advise.
Thank you.
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Hi there,
My shares were auto-tendered to ADDICTION by Ukyo on Dec. 2nd and I am wondering what I need to do to receive missed dividends. I can sign from my address. Please advise.
Thank you.
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I have been lurking since June and decided to join today mostly because of the BS I see on this board. I have a bunch of shares as well and truly believe in Ken. We had a few PMs back and forth during the exchange fiascos, and considering all the chaos it was for me, I can imagine how hard it is to organize all these shareholders and shares. There are so many moving parts in our situation that the end of Nov info release issue is a major...minor detail....amongst many more pressing issues. While I'm a natural sceptic at heart....which I think most of us that invest in cryptos are....I truly believe that Ken has his own and our best intrests at heart. If anyone knows of Karl Denninger, Ken has that type of background and persona, and its a good thing in the end. As the world shifts into this new paradigm, people like Ken already recognize that they have the potential to be on the top of the new hedgemonic scales. Why would anyone sell out/scam after this much effort, and give up so much more potential power. I find it funny as theprice of BTC goes up in value in Fiat more people get nervous, yet isn't it Fiat that we are all escaping? In the end if all you have is 1BTC free and not invested in anything, we all know that one BTC will give us all the individual power we will need in buying power. Although I don't like the fact that Ken maybe quiet about the current situation, just remeber why we all probably picked this venture to invest in in the begining, since it was one of the best looking investments along with deprived's funds and crypto-trade.....they looked the best and most viable. The most prudent fundmanagers/owners are taking the same position as Ken. Deprived is also holding my shares and not paying dividneds, because once you start treating shares of the same entity differently the shares automatically become non fungible.....Don't forget boys this is still very much the Wild wild west of investing. Go with that mindset and everything will be fine.......its friday. Bring on the women!!!!!
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Hello Guys,
I have some shares @ BitFunder.com
What's the best way to transfer them?
Thanks
Check out this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3611031#msg3611031Make sure the public address attached to your Bitfunder account is one that you can sign from so that you can later prove you own the shares that you tender to Ken. |
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