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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin holders, are you diversifying in case the fork proves catastrophic on: March 21, 2017, 09:36:36 PM
I have deiversified since the beginning.

It is never smart to hold all your eggs in one basket. Regarding crypto this means it is spread across several altcoins I think are promising. In general, this means I also hold a normal savings account and an investment account for stocks and investment funds.


I hold gold as my "alt-investment".  Hear you re diversification.

So far I have not decided to hold any Altcoins because I have not had the inclination to go look at any.  My feelings may change if the BTC Civil War keeps going on.
To be honest I don't think that any specific alts are reliable enough to warrant a serious investment.  There's Ethereum but that's pretty centralised and I'm not sure I would trust that people would use it who are techy or clever Bitcoin users.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we ever have Bitcoin without tons of drama and BS? on: March 21, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
I think it's great that there's controversy in Bitcoin.  It shows that Bitcoin users are intelligent and capable of having strong opinions and knowing how to express them.  Sometimes, sure, it gets too dramatic, but it's good that people believe things as much as they do, and I don't think this going away would make Bitcoin more interesting or even necessarily more credible.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in Bitcoin Casinos are really worth it? on: March 21, 2017, 09:32:27 PM
Casino investments are amazing, the profit is very easy to obtain and most casinos earn a pretty steady profit, especially the most trusted ones which often operate making profits for years at a time.

They are risky in the sense that they could collapse at any time though.  I do trust that most casinos will give investors the profit, but you can never properly trust that the profit will keep coming because new casinos are made all the time.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen to your coin during a Hard fork? on: March 21, 2017, 09:29:30 PM
Thanks for that Lauda  Cool

I think the safest bet at this time is for everybody to keep their coin on an address that they control.  When Ethereum forked, I was lucky enough to have my coin in an honest online account and they credited my account with the coin in the alternate chain, but there were many who missed out because they didn't control the address which held their coin.  If it's on an exchange, they should make sure they understand the exchange's policy should bitcoin fork.
Yep, in the case of some exchanges like Coinbase you can't properly rely on getting both parts of your coin and working properly with it - some online wallets just oversimplify so much that they let their opinions get in the way of the practicality of needing both branches of the fork at your will.
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: March 21, 2017, 09:25:53 PM
this is is legit site, but is very hard win btc with faucet Tongue

You can't earn anything with faucet ^^
They're made to... barely earn your first few cents to try things. That's not interesting at all in terms of work/salary
You wont earn anything close to 10$ per day with faucets!!!

Normally from the faucet on FreeBitco.in you can earn from $0.02 to $0.10 per day, but there is a chance to win up to $200 on their free roll, so I visit the site regularly in hope to win $200 or $20.


Yeah earning from free roll would be good but the question is when would be our time to win that? Well maybe for eternity? Does somebody really win for that matters? Well if yes then maybe i would try to used their free features so that i may have a chance to win some huge money from this site. But im also doubting to spend some efforts here since i've already read more bad feedbacks against their lottery and dice fairness.

I feel that instead of wasting your time to claim every one hour to win that money, you can spend that time in any other means of earning money then you can earn more. Here there is no guaranty that even though you claim any number of times, you will surely get that big amount. But you can try your luck once in awhile when you visit that site.
It is essentially gambling, just because you're doing it with free money doesn't make it any less pointless probability wise because the amount of work you put into it to get that tiny amount of money is ridiculous - I agree that you should just work somewhere else.

If you're so desperate to gamble, you could put this earned money into a gambling site or a lottery and see how that goes (not very well either, but your chances would be better).
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitcoinUnlimited.info under DDoS on: March 21, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
It's interesting because this could be seen from two perspectives, both of which are equally invalid.

On the one hand, you have the inability of BU to keep their website active through attempted DDoS attacks, but this is invalid because really good hackers (which people working with Bitcoin often can be) can surely get past very good protection.

On the other hand you could argue that it shows hostility of some SegWit supporters, but this is invalid because it doesn't represent them as a whole.

So generally, neither argument about this is actually valid and it shouldn't matter except for the fact that you won't be able to see it anymore.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Mining pools spamming the network with fake transactions? on: March 21, 2017, 09:15:23 PM

Are Mining pools spamming the network with fake transactions to prop up transaction fees and push a false narrative about full blocks to support BU and usurp the power to adjust block size?
Don't know about other mining pools or mining farms, but viabtc is actually prioritizing transactions that are included in their database through their tx accelerator service in an attempt to support BU. Don't know we can consider this as spamming network with tx they like while neglecting other tx but they are doing it from several weeks.
Their transaction accelerator service is a good thing for people who make mistakes or feel that their fees are too high to deal with for small transactions, and I don't think that that's a problem even if it is with their clear allegiance.  I also wouldn't call it spamming the network with transactions because the transactions are nearly all legitimate and done through other people.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC Price Change Factor in Trading on: March 21, 2017, 09:13:04 PM
Chinese factor or more straighforward: PBOC fud.
I think yea, China has large numbers of miners and traders also Chinese government policy about
there are impact on  price and other altcoins,
the other factors that will makes change  price is news bad news or good news because some traders
use analysis fundamental for making prediction.
china has the great number of population and it has also a great number of miners and traders but i think the mean power who controls it is it users and i think the mean factor for the rise and fall of the price is the users.the rise and up of the price will cause great effect on the traders to do investment it bitcoin or not.
Shockingly, people in China who own monopolies in several different things are still users.  As users, owning a lot of Bitcoin and controlling a lot of Bitcoin is still going to affect the market no matter what country they come from.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can i do with Bitcoin? on: March 21, 2017, 09:10:22 PM
Recently Bitcoin got allot of investments, people are holding Bitcoin in wallets and expecting huge returns, but also questioning how i can use Bitcoin?
In my opinion most interesting ways to use Bitcon:

1. Travel to Bitcoin City Arhnem in Netherlands
2. Travel To Bitcoin Country Liberland

Also while we keep Bitcoins in our wallets sometimes we want more returns and we are looking where to invest Bitcoin?

Wanting more returns can burn your Bitcoin, because altcoins are copy of Bitcoin and created to scam you, just like high yield investment programs, bitcoin doublers, etc...
The concept of digital currency is created by Satoshi Nakamoto and no matter what revolutionary idea altcoins advertise they will fade away.
Bitcoin have no competitors and any altcoin idea can be implemented in Bitcoin.

Only if you are willing to analyse allot, track the news and know when the dump will come you can profit from these altcoins while they alive.
Because no matter what i will say people will invest in altcoins expecting that someone will rise like Bitcoin and they Become millionaires.
Yes we can become millionaire from altcoins, but keep mind that they will fade away and know when to get out the boat.

Ethereum, Monero, these altcoins had potential to make you millionaire, but not anymore, they will fade away too.
I understand the psychology of investors and how media effects investments and i made a profit from them.
For example with Monero, public information been available when  DeepWeb market "AlphabayMarket" integrate Monero.
Know when altcoin attracts huge investments and invest before.

Other way to use Bitcoin:
Trade stocks and forex with Bitcoin

How do you use your Bitcoin?

UPDATE:

I researched all the Altcoins and can say that Dash will win against Ethereum and possible even Bitcoin.
Dash solves problems that Bitcoin now have.
Dash have instant transactions, private sending, almost no fees and it's self fundable, all developers, masternodes, miners get's the percent.
Recently anonymous user submitted article about Dash in our page:

http://www.buywithbitcoin.info/if-bitcoin-will-not-progress-dash-will-overtake-bitcoin/


In fact, I was going to comment on Dash in the post, but I saw that you updated your post and changed your perception with the altcoins. It seems that Dash can overcome Bitcoin, besides the new ASIC of Baikal makes Dash an attractive investment and makes mining more decentralized.
That just isn't true, it doesn't matter how much DASH gets pumped (currently, it's not going over $100), it won't be matched by real adoption.  Sites are starting to accept it but still the amount of actual usage and adoption is pretty low, because there still isn't a lot of reasons to choose DASH over Bitcoin in altcoins' current state except for day trading.
10  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price is recovering! on: March 21, 2017, 09:07:46 PM
It has really recovered well from the price drop it got way back in January which was 700$ per Bitcoin it has now truly recovered which came to a high priced at 1200$ per Bitcoin. Which is a 500$ improvement in a little over a month. Now the price of Bitcoin got back to the 1000$ level due to again a shorting that happened last week. Hoping to see the price of Bitcoin recover again this week.
Actually it has not recovered rather it settled new goals and new price records this time if I am not wrong. And guys why you become so much worried when the price even drops a little ?
If the price would only go up and up only traders would find it impossible to earn via trading. I am one of those traders and hence I know the value of these swings, its really crucial.
Well dropping and rising by $200-300 is a lot. But I agree, it's just the business cycle at work here, the coin can't grow without falls
Today again it's increasing now the price is 1117$. I think in this weekend we can again see the Bitcoin price around 1200$. Yes, this price fall help traders to do good business otherwise there is no work for traders. This 200 and 300$ up and down will give nice profit to traders. I think since last few months traders are made a nice profit in Bitcoin trading.
Yes the traders benefit from this but, still the majority of normal users are not happy with those fluctuations. With the whole hard fork thing going on this month hadn't been great for normal btc users
Maybe to some extent, but I don't think it'll result in people losing faith.  It's okay that there are fluctuations, even to quite low levels - there have been drops as low as at the start of 2014 and I'm comfortable with it because while I'm not holding too much, I'm still comfortable.
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin holders, are you diversifying in case the fork proves catastrophic on: March 21, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
I don't think that diversification is necessary as long as you don't have absolutely all of your funds in Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's value will be safe enough that it won't completely collapse to 0.  I think that the more the value falls from the fork, the more that I'll buy because I know that Bitcoin is still great and will always be appreciated for what it is.
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BU an actual threat? on: March 21, 2017, 09:01:59 PM
it won't actually represent any loss of value

Codswallop. It would possibly trigger a complete loss of trust in all cryptocurrencies. Nobody would ever be quite sure again whether what they were putting money into would split and crater given the right levels of agitation.

If it had been an orderly and mutually supported move towards Unlimited then that would be dandy but that's not how it's playing out.
I don't know about that.  People would still be holding their original Bitcoin, so maybe they'd be okay just ignoring the HF and continuing.  It might be less accessible for newcomers but that doesn't mean that people will lose trust in cryptocurrencies in general.
13  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [MANY SATISFED CUSTOMERS] [VOUCHED] 5$ IQOPTION earning method on: March 21, 2017, 08:57:57 PM
I am doing profit, but you did not respond to me, can you make it autopilot?
Yes, I can make it autopilot, but you have to pay for it and I am not sure it will be effective.
New Satoshibox link added to the thread.
I am interested but sadly no vouches from Sr Members because just 2 vouches and both from Jr Members which are not helping any one if some one higher rank will post then surely I will also try this method in future  Smiley
Yep the OP should know before making the post that Junior Members are not the most reliable for vouches - higher rank members can obviously lie too, but it's significantly more difficult for scammers to buy expensive accounts to do a minor scam.
14  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: March 21, 2017, 08:54:59 PM
Bitcoin could reach 10k without fiat having to go through hyper inflation or anything, if adoption grew by 10 times the current amount of people and business, then it stands to reason to believe that the price will grow that much, so fiat will not be worthless in that scenario.
Well the price suggested here is ridiculously low for the fiat price to become worthless.  Multiplying the adoption of Bitcoin by 10 would still leave it an absolutely tiny currency compared to, for example, the US dollar.
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: price from -$50 in an hour - heart attack on: March 21, 2017, 08:39:37 PM
We are back to near $1100 now. I think the hard fork will not happen, and if it happens then it will crash but quickly go up again as people dump their BTU for BTC.

So buy some heart attack meds and have fun, BTC will win in the end.

Let's all just sit back get a popcorn or something, because we are seeing a recovery right now. I LOL at the heart attack meds mate. I hope the price recovery will continue in the next coming weeks so that we can just relax and see our investment grows. I'm not into bitcoin in 2013 when it crashes but I will for sure not have a heart attack and not panic that time.
its seems that it will be a bounce back now hope no one got an heart attack because of this downfall and for those who knew how to play with btc
better to keep watching and enjoy how the price moving as of now, waiting for another ride keep it up guys cheer up and relax..

The price is already more than $1100. It seems people have recovered from the statement of the Exchanges that they will keep the old bitcoin intact.
The price will always be stable enough for people to hold and feel comfortable unless they put in far too much and can't afford to lose it, which they should never have done in the first place.

I think we can say with reasonable certainty that you should only be afraid of prices around $1000 if you've just joined Bitcoin within 2 weeks and haven't actually seen how it fluctuates or why.  This should be pretty normal to people, unless they're day traders and they need to think about exactly when to buy and sell.
16  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: COINBASE SCAM ALERT!!!!............ on: March 21, 2017, 08:33:27 PM
Good day everybody

I want to share information about my account in Coinbase, I have more than 700 BTC which I could not pull the funds are there, already more than one month I did not get an answer from the support, all answered by robots each email reply, my account position is currently frozen condition, I could only see the contents of the balance but could not do transactions, I've been thinking if this continues without the news this week, I will report the company's coin base to the FBI, CIA, USA investigation for committing fraud 700 BTC to me.
Coinbase is like the Paypal of Bitcoin, thus they freeze accounts a lot; however if you're legit you'll probably get your money back. Although they my have unfairly frozen your account that don't mean they are a scam quite yet. Good luck, I hope everything works out well.

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I will report the company's coin base to the FBI, CIA, USA investigation
What exactly is the "USA investigation"? ^
True, they're not a scam but they have a lot of your information and own your Bitcoin therefore they have responsibility if they suspect you of committing any illegal activity (as they're capable of knowing).  I would advise using caution but if they freeze your account, well, maybe you should have known what you were getting into before joining.
17  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: March 21, 2017, 08:31:23 PM
WARNING THE ACCOUNT STE0024 HAS BEEN PIRATED. EMAIL ADDRESS MODIFY AND GUY STEAL MY ACCOUNT
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136862

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is the right place to start making accusations. Try the "Scam Accusations" thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
Scam accusations board^

i post here just for inform because guy post here in this thread with my account.

That's irrelevant, you need to open up a thread in the Scam Accusations section so that people can actually discuss this and consider trying to restore your account (if you can prove it).
18  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is there a time limit for BTCs requests? on: March 21, 2017, 08:27:32 PM

Edit: Wait, are you talking about a transaction? Where would you write a transaction and not click "send"?

Yes, imagine that I opened a request order, it is open now and I set it to receive XXX BTC, but I don't deposit, I let it open, and after some Years I finally use this adress to make a deposit.

Is this possible?
If you're using a normal wallet, yes, the addresses will be yours forever.  The Blockchain wallet, for example mentions what addresses you have to accept Bitcoin from and gives you the option of archiving addresses so that you don't own them anymore.  Basically, you can do what you want with the addresses forever - they're yours.
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Its a cloudmining investment program that is already a scam even it was not launched yet.
Op even if you promote your website into different forums still ,thier first impression is your site is a scam.
It's not a cloud mining site.  I think we need to make a distinction between cloud mining sites and Ponzi schemes.

A lot of Ponzi schemes claim to be cloud mining sites, but also many claim to invest in other things and in fact do not.  The concept of cloud mining is not inherently a scam, it has just become a good thing for Ponzi schemes to pretend that they invest in.
20  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 💰 120% Return Of Investment Within 5 Days 💰 on: March 21, 2017, 08:21:30 PM
This is a Ponzi scheme.

It's pretty funny that you didn't even bother suggesting that the Bitcoin was safe in a hardware wallet or anything, just straight up saying it's a Coinbase account.

Did you tasted before saying anything scam? I can say the link in your signature is scam!
Your signature site is scam? coinstorm.net/en ... Don't say scam until you taste.
How could Internet of Coins be a scam?  They're not even accepting any money yet.
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