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1  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: June 26, 2020, 11:37:27 PM



Worth of  crypto coin/token is not something what is set buy some  caluculation  base on "shop" on faucet and price is not something what can be set by anybody.
If  CGT have no buyers, If CGT is not on any exchange  it means that CGT is worth  0.00 USD Wink

http://prntscr.com/t5aq8f


What is the name of exchange? Where can i found CGT. How many coins are in circulation? What is  purpose of token? Why will people buy it or hold?
1 prtscrn is not enough

Sorry, you have to wait till Jamboom post it also for *ALL* members, as far i can see, i did not join that programm, it's a wallet were you can exchange cryptocoins just like freewallet.
2  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: June 23, 2020, 11:23:09 PM



Worth of  crypto coin/token is not something what is set buy some  caluculation  base on "shop" on faucet and price is not something what can be set by anybody.
If  CGT have no buyers, If CGT is not on any exchange  it means that CGT is worth  0.00 USD Wink

http://prntscr.com/t5aq8f
3  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: June 22, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
Jamboom, when we receive any information about CGT ? There was a several calculations I would really like to see your calculation.   Undecided Huh


No need asking him, just have a look into the shop.
55,000 Crystals cost 106,810 sat or 10 CGT, meaning by Jamboom's calculation 1 CGT should be worth 10,681 sat or roughly $1.

By my calculation (as in what you can get out of 1CGT today through the detour of buying cards for CGT from the shop and sell the cards in the market) 1 CGT is worth roughly 250 sat or just over $0.02.
Just another case where jamboom's calculations are off by a factor of 500.

Guy's, wait a vew days  about CGT,
all elite members already have the change to open a new wallet on a company and get 10 CGT as bonus for that ... worth $1.20 at this time
This week ALL members get an message about that.

I just looked about that and my conclusion when you're not a walllet-owner already there, You need about 100 CGT to exchange it to BTC on that wallet to get a payout in BTC to your own wallet.
I decide not to open that wallet account and getting 10 CGT bonus as a elite member, when i look into the past, affiliates get much more than $1.20 worth in BTC to open such wallet-accounts ... i already have 3 wallet accounts by other companies.

Anyway, everybody must see what they will do.... CGT is worth $0.12 at this moment.
4  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: June 20, 2020, 10:23:22 PM
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And still there's no ingame-bonus for the Bitcoin cards, i have already 3,000 of them.

What was the plan for the Bitcoin cards anyway? I couldn't find any information. Is it worth upgrading them or better to wait?


That Bitcoin card is worth NOTHING in the game itself ... only the ingame_bonus should be worth something,
so ... don't upgrade that card now till there's an ingame_bonus
5  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: June 20, 2020, 03:26:02 PM
Just a quick question for the traders: Since prices for about anything are rapidly collapsing, what's the latest value of things?

Crystals can't even be sold for 1 sat per 150 Crystals anymore.
Cards seem to fetch less than 1/2 a sat per star on the card.
Cryptocoinz I'm not even putting on sale anymore, they are worth less than the electricity costs for the time it takes to put them on sale.
Hackingeys used to be an easy sell at 5 sat per key, now you can't sell them at all anymore, no matter how low the price.

CGT is ....... well I have no words, it costs 0.2CGT to buy 25 gold cards from the shop which then can be sold in the market for about 40 sat, meaning 1CGT is worth roughly 200 sat, where 15,000HP (plus 20+% bonus) will mine a CGT value corresponding to 300 sat a month while the first 1,000HP (plus bonus) will mine almost 5,000 sat a month, a 1:250 mismatch.


I don't look or rate any offers into the market anymore,
friends or multiply accounts are rating idiot offers as good and Jamboom don't change that, so i also don't know what the averages prices are into the market.

About CGT ... i wrote a vew months ago CGT should be worth around 10 cents calculated what prices JB keep into his shop, a lot members told me i could not calculate that this way, so ... 12 cents worth only when we join another wallet, i have my own wallets and shall not join another wallet .. JB may keep that 10 CGT for joining (elite members now, non-elite members from next week)
You need at least 100 CGT on that wallet to exchange them to BTC and make a withdrawl.

I use that CGT to buy cards or crates into the shop, already have 16,500 + HP

And still there's no ingame-bonus for the Bitcoin cards, i have already 3,000 of them.
6  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: May 28, 2020, 11:37:12 AM
Somehow Jobs do not pay me anymore.
Not sure since when, Jobs pay so little that I hardly care, I usually just do them to complete the 15 daily tasks or if I have too much energy and donno what else to use it for.
Might be for a long time already, maybe even several months, maybe ever since I reached level 21.
Anyway, I noticed, whether for 1 minute or 210 minutes, whether Crystals or Cryptocoinz or Satoshi or Litoshi, whether I hit a bonus or a scam or nothing, what I get is just a different amount of XP, but nothing else.

https://ibb.co/BN8jR6z

It's not the level Thomas,
when the job say i earned xxx satoshi, it pays into account balance,
but many times i also get a message i earned xxx XP and no satoshi, then it doesn't pay any crypto in my account balance .. and i get many times that kind of messages i only get XP.

i mostly use the jobs just like you do to get the 15 daily tasks, i stopped using more than 1 energy on jobs.
7  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: May 06, 2020, 11:23:43 PM
Energy found in crates is back to reduced level, fom 1-2 in bronze and 2-4 in silver crates it's (again) always 1 in bronze and 1-2 in silver crates.

Edit: Not sure if it was my report or the fix was already in progress, but it appears to be fixed again.

Just bad luck Thomas, i got many ones from 2 and 4  Grin
The same with finding crates into missions as bonus, some days i got none, and some days i got 20+
8  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: May 03, 2020, 08:53:29 PM
Thomas,

the first 1,000 HP will be used for mining crypto's, that's right
but ALL HP , also the first 1,000 will also be used for CGT

You have some 12,000 !!! (level 21-22)

I have at this moment 13036.47913896  HPower (almost level 20)
I save those CGT ...(5.192009117573 CGT) as you mentioned when you buy cards from CGT into the shop it will be worth 1/100e from mining crypto's

I still have some hope Jamboom will change those prices more to what the average price is into the market, those fixed prices in the shop are up to 23x as much as the average prices members use into the market.
9  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: April 18, 2020, 10:30:17 PM
Yes, and as long as Jamboom does not punish these jokers who judge everything negatively, there is no point in sailing at all, so I no longer vote
10  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: April 07, 2020, 11:13:16 PM
why the site closed down?

Don't know, but for me it means again a lost of 570 energy, 50 cards and a bunch of crystals + cryptocoinzpoints

Jamboom proberly wil set free the head_quest tomorrow, but it's not a compensation cause i think most elite members are active everyday,
only the members that did not play today have something extra's
11  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: March 29, 2020, 10:40:13 PM
Not sure where you get the numbers from or why people would rate something a scam, but let me put my personal experience in between your numbers, obviously eliminating the numbers I have no experience with.


Gold crate = 80 sats

.... sells for 350 sat usually within an hour

Game Token = 2 sats

... I can't get more than just over 1 sat, usually 20 tokens for 30 sat already takes 6 hours or more to sell

Trade Token = 5 sats

.... 2 sat already doesn't sell, I usually put on sale 200 tokens for 400 sat and it fairly often takes a week or longer without a buyer, until I delete the offer and put it back for a lower price

Crystals per 10,000 = 250 sats

.... 20,000 crystals for 350 sat is the borderline and that frequently takes a day or two to find a buyer

2 stars = 2 sats
3 stars = 3 sats
5 stars = 4-5 sats

..... on that one there seems to be a WILD difference in opinion.
I'm putting offers up that consist of 1x 100 gold cards, 1x 100 silver cards, 4-7x 100 bronze cards, by your count worth between 900 and 1200 sat, I'm offering them for 950 sat, I'm getting almost exclusively scam ratings and they sell within a couple of hours anyway.
I'm guessing that's because the ones rating the offers are not the ones in need of cards.

Thomas, i only calculate the offers from the past 1,400 now and the scam_rates i don't count .. only what the members find a good rate.
Ofcourse i also see some rated bad 5 times still someone seems to buy them.
When i put in 135 cards with 125 one star cards and ask 9999 crystals for that, mostly i sell them the same day ... or asking 199 sats for those cards, getting 1 good and 3 bad rates i still sell them the same day.

It's just an indication what members do on average base the past 36 hr or so.

You and me don't need cards and sell most of them, but all newbies want those cards, we both sell them below the average sells.
What i don't anymore is selling cards with only the 5 stars cards e.g. mining pool, firewall, neutrino and destroyd neutrino, i put them in as bonus with what we call rubbish because we don't attack other players.

I think it's a good start this rating system ... honestly , i miss another rate_button ... the *fair* one, when the average price setup by members for a mining boost = 40 sats and someone put them in for 45  or 50 .. i still should say *fair* instead of *good*.
12  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: March 29, 2020, 09:04:29 PM
Just placed this one on discord

so far rated 1,000+ offers and see what the average prices members accept as good
Bronze crate = 20 sats
Silver crate = 40 sats
Gold crate = 80 sats
Hacking Key = 5 sats
Game Token = 2 sats
Trade Token = 5 sats
Mining Boost = 40 sats
Crystals per 10,000 = 250 sats
CryptoCoinZ per 10,000 = 62 sats
Please note, these are averages, which does not mean that members are willing to give more.                                                                                                                                      Cards: 1 star = 1 sat
2 stars = 2 sats
3 stars = 3 sats
5 stars = 4-5 sats
Here not always amount of stars = amount of sats, for players (attacking) certain cards are worth more than for non players

regarding those scam ratings Thomasio,
Yes, we al see this ... seems to be some members that are not lucky with this rating system ... i think the real traders that earned a lot with trading stuff ... or members that are angry because they get an bad rate.

some other i posted on discord ...

Jamboom wants to delete the scam_button, that will not matter because then actual scams will be posted anyway, instead he better change the scam_button to a report_button with the origin who reported these trades, if punished repeatedly for abuse of this report_button.
What should be considered a scam?
When at least twice as much is asked as usual (average)?
If you do not set a standard, you will continue to receive scam_reports from e.g. non_players (non_attackers) where e.g. a mining pool card only has 2 sats value while for players (attackers) the same card has up to 5 sats value.
So you will eventually have to fix a so-called * average * price.
13  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: March 05, 2020, 03:37:57 PM
In fact, now that I remember and since clearmaker talked about scammers...let me tell you sth about scammers.
I've lost too much money, much more than I wanted to, because of scammers. And almost all of it, was stolen from those mining platforms. Those super ruled sites. With so many banking rules, and verification process.
Faucethub...I don't know much about them, but what I can say is that they have never stolen a cent from me. They let me exchange till the last penny and between coins many other didn't even accept.
And as for banking rules....screw them! Fuck banks. They have stolen much more than money from people, and for too long. Now that you say faucethub didn't want to get involved in their ruled system. Well, I hope there are more faucethubs out there and find they way through these bastards.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to be rude, but please don't mention banks again. Let we forget about them, for as much as we care.
Peace.
on faucethub members had 0.0 rights, more than 11,000 members were blocked for vague reasons, most of those blocked accounts were $ 50 +
Even if members provided evidence that not they, but owners of (auto)faucets had done something wrong, blocked members remained the victims.
11,000 x $ 50 + = $ 550,000+ !!!!!

according to the TERMS, faucet hub would send the credits back to the faucets in question where the cryptos came from, but it turned out that this never happened.

So look at the TERMS, and you will always see the same texts as * 5.1. We have the right to suspend your account at any time for any valid reason including, but not limited to, abuse of our Terms of Service.

5.2. All suspended accounts will have all their balances reset and no refunds will be given. *

Working with a Fraudscore which don't work correctly.

Faucethub repeatedly admitted to blocked members that they were right and did not blame them, but refused to unblock them. ( i have proof of that)

Then something technical ...
If you e.g. have 10,000 satoshis paid out each time, and you decide later to sell those satoshis, then you pay for every batch of 10,000 satoshis networktransaction fees.
So as an example ... you have 10 x 10,000 satoshis paid out via a micropayment system, you sell the 100,000 satoshis,
then you pay 10 x networktransaction fees.
If you would save up to 100,000 satoshis and then have them pay out, then sell the 100,000 satoshis, then you will only pay 1 x networktransaction fees for those 100,000 satoshis, and that is many times less than 10 batches of 10,000 satoshis.

So in the end you are much better off if you save cryptos to higher amounts.
That only applies to BTC and BTCH.
For other cryptos such as ETH, LTC, Doge, etc., fixed transaction fees apply regardless of the amount of batches involved.
14  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: March 04, 2020, 07:15:13 PM
Hi. Will you consider accepting payout to faucetpay or similar so as to lower minimum threshold, as it used to be with faucethub? Thnks

Faucethub had to close, you know why?
Because they act as a bank and do NOT want to comply with international banking rules.
The same thing awaits all other micropayment systems, is only a matter of time.
In addition ... because Faucethub had to close, other possible scams were given the space to start, so who knows which micropayment systems are scammers, will now pay small amounts .... but later?

There are other options, and Jamboom knows about it ... but that takes weeks to make everything work properly so that lesser amounts of cryptos are needed for payment .... and that costs money.
So whether that other payment system ever comes?
Will depend entirely on whether CMG is growing and it will be profitable enough.
For the time being, Jamboom has an enormous * ToDoList * that must first be solved Wink
15  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: January 19, 2020, 02:50:10 AM
Here is a funny bug:
If you have more energy than level x10, in my case that's for example 218/210 after daily bonus or after 15 daily quests completed or after energy refill from 208 to 218 and then you check your messages after a mission is completed, energy gets reduced to level x10.
If you do not check messages but launch missions or jobs until you're under level x10 and then check messages nothing gets reduced.

Did you have the daily energy bonus today Thomas?
So not me again and today the energy-boost has remained at 174 for me for the 5th consecutive time.
Just like you, I ensure that before the server time goes to 00:00, that in my case I have level 18, 189 energy, then I click the main quest that gives me 360 energy = 549 ... with all crates. I usually start about 570 energy.
Normally I start grabbing the missions at 00:01 am server time, and I get the daily energy-boost of 209 over it .... but today not .... again.

I have not complained about it before, because many other members have already done so ... after 4 days it starts to bother me as a paying member too
16  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: January 16, 2020, 12:14:40 AM
for me it is a scammer
mining three months in a row day and night
the page disappears
he didn't pay me.
then he appears here saying: calm me down
Of course it's not you.
  Angry

Yes, keep calm ...
when CMG is back up also the issue with email verification will be working again after payout request, have patience.
17  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: January 16, 2020, 12:11:02 AM
From Discord:

Quote
Jamboom gisteren om 20:47 (yesterday januar 15)
News!
- We are still performing tests and checks and things are going well! We expect website to be Back Online tomorrow 16th, January between  12AM and 4PM (GMT).
 
Jamboom gisteren om 22:28 (yesterday januar 15)
News!
- The Crypto-World is being regenerated on the new server! You will all keep your current World position.
18  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: January 13, 2020, 01:13:40 AM
I did not get the daily energy-boost bonus we always get so around 00:01 hr servertime,
are there others also not got that bonus, or is it only me?
19  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: January 02, 2020, 02:16:26 PM
Every time I upgrade a card related to the mining process (like mining tower), somehow I earn a little less than before.

That's not true, but a misconception.
Your earnings are calculated in US$ and then paid in BTC for the amount however many sat you get for the US$ you earned.
Therefore if BTC goes up your earnings in BTC go down, but your earnings calculated in US$ remain the same.

True is that with V2 due to the move to CGT your mining earnings in BTC or LTC or whatever have gone down, but as far as CGT has the apropriate value your total earnings haven't changed, especially not from upgrading your cards, just the opposite, without upgrading your cards your earnings counted in BTC would have been even less.

So  why we are  not claiming USD and than everybody decided when and for what he/she/it change it. This will be most fair play.
CGT will never have value. If you think that this is possible show me the one token which is used in game and have a value.

It is only illusionist trick made by Jamboom how to cut earnings and give  users feeling that they are  still earning  something.

CGT (Crypto Game Token) :
shall we try to make a little calculation what Jamboom find one Token is worth !!

Christmas Offer = 5,000 crystals + 1170-1500 cards = average 1,370 cards = 2.9 CGT
real worth for members into exchange/market:
5,000 crystals = average 500 satoshi
1,370 cards = average (2.5x) 3,450 satoshi
total = average 3,950 satoshi : 2.9 (CGT) = 1 CGT = average 1181 satoshi !! ( $0.084 )

The price of this temporary offer = BTC 40,446 : 2.9 (CGT) = 13,954 satoshi !! ( $0.993 )

When you look to the *REAL* worth for members into exchange/market of this offer, you'll see the real worth is about 10% what Jamboom count for this offer ... exactly what i expected.

So ... what can we expect as worth for CGT? ... 1,100 - 1,400 satoshi at most. ( $0.0785 - $ 0.0997 )

I did not take (on purpose) as example the other offers, they are out of way what Jamboom ask for them
25 faucet owner cards for 3,487 satoshi while on the market they offer those for 2 satoshi each = 50 satoshi.

Problem for Jamboom is the exchange/market, without this market already 80% van all members leave the site, with the market prices went down.

20  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: January 02, 2020, 12:59:04 AM
First of all, what I said it's true because I don't lie. In any case, I could be wrong but not a lier. And in second place, I am not wrong because I calculate my earnings in coins and in USD taking into account the price at the very moment and always taken from the same exchange. I have set an Excel with all the calculations and expected earnings. It is pretty simple.

Anyway, thanks for your time, but next time you want to say if I am lying or not, try to ask first. It's would be more polite.
And, last but not least. I would be very pleased to be wrong, but I don't think so, because that would make Excel a lier.

I think it is calculated differently, look at the CGT (Crypto Game Token) ... every day it goes out with mining max. 100 CGT that is distributed among the participants who mining.

I also sometimes see the value fluctuate while the ratio BTC <----> LTC or BTC <----> Dash is unchanged.
Then you would expect that the quantity and perfomarance index will remain the same, and that is not the case.

It is possible that Jamboom has implemented a script that also takes into account the amount of coins mined .... so a maximum number per day.

Because somewhere, Jamboom must be able to determine what income goes in and what can be taken out.

This is my logical reasoning, I don't need an exel, I also see the differences even though there are no or hardly any exchange differences.

What I have indicated above must be there, because Jamboom can never estimate in advance how many crystals, coin points, cards and crates will be exchanged via the market for cryptocoins.

My expectation is, Jamboom has calculated a minimum number of cryptos that members gather together, and can add in US dollars what he gets extra in (extra) advertising income and / or registrations / purchases via banners, so the amount of cryptocoins can be a few percent fluctuate.

This is how I would do it if I owned CMG Wink
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