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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: April 26, 2017, 06:30:31 PM
its verry easy to understand why so much ppl voted for elite group. elite group gives something back 25% its not much but better then nothing. deligates need to share more with the voters to change the top101. or stsy left behind.

Bullshit, check who get huge reward's from Elite pool.. Or better I will say you - Elite members
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: April 26, 2017, 08:38:29 AM
Congratulations community - with your votes Elite took the Lisk network. Now >50 Elite is in top, so for Lisk future are responisble so greats delegates as:  kc, goodtimes,  eely_delving, kaystar, threelittlepig, menfei or catstar. I've never seen proposals from this delegates, they never appereard on this forum or lisk.chat. They did NOTHING for Lisk besides invest and join Elite Smiley As I writed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg18237516#msg18237516 in Elite are a lot a double delegates, I've seen this again on last network problem. DPoS isn't perfect but you decide

Anyway I belive in Lisk success, wait for 1.0.0 version
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: March 19, 2017, 05:29:44 PM

3. Another stupid point. Who will donate to foundation? Max still has a lot of money, and will not hire more dev's because his opinion that this will slow down development - it's his words! LOL


Where did you hear this?  Show me plz?

Max has stated the exact opposite...
Feb 11th community meeting excerpt:

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Dennis: What are the future plans for the development team? How many people are left to hire? What will be the size of the final team?
- Lisk (Max & Joel): Currently, we have 5 Developers and 2 more coming in the next weeks. Although, we plan to have a team that fits every important aspect of Lisk so we, in the end, expect to have a team of 15-20 members here at Lisk.

we have around 9 now I think, so at LEAST 6 more are due in the coming months by this estimate

I qoute Max:
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If we had too many new developers on board at the time, Lisk development would probably have progressed more slowly on an individual basis during that time because they would have to study the code base first, before they can jump deep into coding.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: March 18, 2017, 02:58:45 PM
I'm Lisk supporter from the begging and I would you say what I think about groups like GDT and Elite. The current DPoS implementation is conducive to the formation of such groups, it's true and you have to deal with it.
If you will act as delegate there is three ways currently: be pool, get votes from Max or Oliver (their and foundation hold around 12mln LSK) or join alliance.
And to be honest I have nothing against formatting aliances like GDT or Elite, only think what I care it's safety and decentralization of the network.
If you check GDT profiles you will know that this they are "real" pepole from diffrent countrie's. But at last day I start track Elite history and it's looks like
alliance wealthy whales who will have few delegates in top. Examples:
Bigfisher and liskjp - if you check their history you will know that their always co-operate together, and also collect together votes
xujian and  will - also act always together. I found xujian is ARK investor so propably is "real" person, but will? Seems like his double delegate
Last time I also saw that new delegates grow from nowhere, intresting hm? Their register an acoount and bum! new Elite memeber! Examples: "hong", "panda", "kaystar", "jiandan", "threelittlepig" etc. They are new account's!
So my theory is that rich group has bought more lisk's on last big dump's, nothing wrong with them. But I'm AGAINST their plan's to get 2 or even more delegates in the top from 1 person! It's not in Lisk safety and decentralization intrest...
Also I think that their distribution plan is stupid and scam:
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2. Every member of Elite must share 25% of his/her forging reward to his/her Voters every week;

3. Every member of Elite must donate 5% forging reward LISK foundation;

2. Seems nice, honest distribution you say? Check who will earn from this - the big wallet's like liskjp_260k , badman_voter or bigfisher_330k and all other elitte wallet's. There is example: https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/3215747948044801428

3. Another stupid point. Who will donate to foundation? Max still has a lot of money, and will not hire more dev's because his opinion that this will slow down development - it's his words! LOL

So if you decide to vote Elite group consider do you really wanna let this 50 delegate spots to no-names rich whales who contribute nothing? Yesterday I observed example of this double delegates and how will network work's if they reach 50 delegates in top:

Luxiang and mac was "red" few hour's, Luxiang and mac are in Elite, Luxiang and mac recover their node in the same time Smiley Magic?

I'm not GDT supporter, but if I have to choose from group of acitive and contributing in diffrent ways GDT alliance and whales Elite I choose gdt..

Ending this post I hope that DPoS algorithm will be changed, current implentation support alliance's and big whales instead promoting active people from marketing or programmers. Thanks for your time and welcome to discussion
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