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My phone is officially dead as well I received a voicemail and it stopped working however I did receive almost a full year out of my phone and if you do the math I actually only paid 25 bucks a month roughly to have that phone with full data access in which I was definitely using over 15 GB a month . In addition to that I can sell the phone and get some money out of it . However if anybody else discovers a flaw like this in the future I will definitely try it again so message me if you read this.
Mines too. IN a plus sign, I didn't pay no $350 for the phone (like most of you probably did), I figured out the loophole myself somewhere on November of 2016.
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Now its really over. I tried to diffuse the situation as best as I could, I tried to make Sprint think that on September 14 they really killed DDR, but nooooo you guys had to continue boasting publicly that your DDR phones continued working past this date, and those sellers (madrinos......) continued selling their ddr devices when they should have faked that ddr was dead and non functional and continued with their sales offline LIKE I DID, none of ya realized that Sprint actively was reading these forums xda included? and on that xda thread people was all the time bragging that their ddr phones were working past all efforts of vm killing ddr, you guys should have faked and said that your ddr phones stopped working as soon as the next day of Sept 14 passed and only then would Sprint have halted all further efforts of killing DDR which would have benefited all of us! Well now enjoy expensive ripoff massively throttled cellphone plans!
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The price currently is really high and I think is just a pump rather the real value of ICN.
The real value of ICN will be much higher once the platform will go public. I agree I fully agree! I can see this token reaching in value over $500 each in the future possibly even surpassing Ethereum. If ICN becomes really big and successful I can even see them beating BTC on price alone even if that means ICN's marketcap having to be magnitudes higher than BTC. HODL!
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So, once again, there HAS to be ways for users to be able to exchange ICN -> BTC -> USD fiat for users who legitimately got their funds such as myself and all of us ICO/IPO investors. I just find it hard to believe that its impossible for me to convert, say $1,000,000 worth of ICN to my bank account so that I can buy a half a million dollars house in a nice place and live happily ever after, so it would be a great idea to list all possible legal ways for us ICN investors to dispose of our funds so when the right time comes we know what to do and wont feel lost. Sounds like champaign problems to me mate, i have the same thing but i only hodl icn and btc (and a small amount of alts (as a collector of rare coins)) the people in the future will fix it by inventing someting like a whale trading club or someting like that. Im not that worried and dont need that much of money (its just sitting there on kraken) dont forget the world is heating up, the oceans are getting acidic and the old system failt to willing to fix that, the old must die for the new to rise to fix this or what ever peace out. Ow yea tokens i think are easyer to replace than cryptos if etherium fails to scale and bitcoin succeeds than i guess iconomi wil just go bitcoin token?
Well for the moment you can exchange ICN for USD on Kraken and then withdraw it to your bank account. If you are verified for Tier 4, you can get half million $ monthly, so you in 2 months you can get your nice house. Just remember to pay your taxes for this Yes you are right, deposits originating from Kraken might not be seen as negative as the ones coming from Coinbase, and it is something that might work just fine, except that Kraken is not available to me because I am a New Yorker and Kraken closed my account years ago after Bitlicense and I was level 4 verified, now I can login to my Kraken account and it shows Level 0 verified with a message saying they doesn't service New York residents and blah blah blah. I know I can fix this by moving to New Jersey or Pennsylvania or any other 49 States away from NY but that sucks! It sucks having to think of abandoning NY just to be able to dispose of my cash, and even a $275,000 profits which is essentially my current ICN worth might not be enough to justify over 7 months of rent paying + utilities and everything else just too big of an overhead that will eat like 30+% of that gain at the end, it's like a huge tax on top of the tax I would have to pay. There has to be a great way for us New Yorkers to dispose of these profits right here without having our bank accounts closed down. Any ideas? Sure if ICN prices goes IP to like $200+ each thn I would be a millionaire and then paying the overhead costs of becoming a New Jersey perma resident wouldn't seem that high afterall and who knows, instead of paying rent I might even buy a house at a nice place in NJ. Oops that sucks... What about other exchanges? It has to be some way to get that cash out in NYC god damnit!!! To the best of my knowledge the following exchange is available to me and all New Yorkers: Bitstamp Ripple Gateways well some of them I supposed Of course Coinbase I think Gemini Can't think of anything else. Out of all these, I think but am not too sure that Bitstamp supports bank transfers withdrawals, don't know if that option is available to New Yorkers but all I know is I can trade there and they have a BitLicense. Now, Bitstamp is located offshore and if the bill passes in Congress then further restrictions might take place. So at the moment I can only think of Bitstamp anCoinbase as the only two exchanges that services New Yorkers and that allows bank withdrawals.
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So, once again, there HAS to be ways for users to be able to exchange ICN -> BTC -> USD fiat for users who legitimately got their funds such as myself and all of us ICO/IPO investors. I just find it hard to believe that its impossible for me to convert, say $1,000,000 worth of ICN to my bank account so that I can buy a half a million dollars house in a nice place and live happily ever after, so it would be a great idea to list all possible legal ways for us ICN investors to dispose of our funds so when the right time comes we know what to do and wont feel lost. Sounds like champaign problems to me mate, i have the same thing but i only hodl icn and btc (and a small amount of alts (as a collector of rare coins)) the people in the future will fix it by inventing someting like a whale trading club or someting like that. Im not that worried and dont need that much of money (its just sitting there on kraken) dont forget the world is heating up, the oceans are getting acidic and the old system failt to willing to fix that, the old must die for the new to rise to fix this or what ever peace out. Ow yea tokens i think are easyer to replace than cryptos if etherium fails to scale and bitcoin succeeds than i guess iconomi wil just go bitcoin token?
Well for the moment you can exchange ICN for USD on Kraken and then withdraw it to your bank account. If you are verified for Tier 4, you can get half million $ monthly, so you in 2 months you can get your nice house. Just remember to pay your taxes for this Yes you are right, deposits originating from Kraken might not be seen as negative as the ones coming from Coinbase, and it is something that might work just fine, except that Kraken is not available to me because I am a New Yorker and Kraken closed my account years ago after Bitlicense and I was level 4 verified, now I can login to my Kraken account and it shows Level 0 verified with a message saying they doesn't service New York residents and blah blah blah. I know I can fix this by moving to New Jersey or Pennsylvania or any other 49 States away from NY but that sucks! It sucks having to think of abandoning NY just to be able to dispose of my cash, and even a $275,000 profits which is essentially my current ICN worth might not be enough to justify over 7 months of rent paying + utilities and everything else just too big of an overhead that will eat like 30+% of that gain at the end, it's like a huge tax on top of the tax I would have to pay. There has to be a great way for us New Yorkers to dispose of these profits right here without having our bank accounts closed down. Any ideas? Sure if ICN prices goes IP to like $200+ each thn I would be a millionaire and then paying the overhead costs of becoming a New Jersey perma resident wouldn't seem that high afterall and who knows, instead of paying rent I might even buy a house at a nice place in NJ.
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Feel free to discuss but please open up another thread in an appropriate category. This thread is about ICONOMI.
If you are referring to my questions, I feel this is relevant to ICONOMI, specially the part where people say they are having trouble sending ICN tokens or even Ethereum or any other tokens that depends on the Ethereum blockchain to another wallet from the Ethereum wallet, the common saying out there is that Ethereum is having some sort of SCALABILITY issues, I know I haven done lots of research in regards to what exactly is going on with Ethereum's blockchain but the things that I have read, specially on Reddit doesn't make me entirely comfortable, IF TRUE, then this affects Iconomi no? Also, many of us have invested into ICN with the expectancy of being able to fulfill our dreams and discussing ways to exchange SOME or a small percentage of ICN into USD FIAT in order for people like ME to finish paying off mortgages, (sure bank isn't going to take Bitcoin or ICN as payment directly), for some of you guys to buy their Lamborghini's etc knowing HOW to convert serious amount of USD worth of ICN into USD reliably in order to make these "dreams" a reality in the future is also important for us ICN investors, not only for us ICN investors, but everyone who partakes in any other ICO's or crypto in general, specially if we happen to be living in the USA. ----- Edited to fix a missword, I said "AVAILABILITY" earlier when I meant to say "SCALABILITY", Perhaps move to another country when you're in the millions and employ your dad with your new internet company and pay him enough to pay off his mortgage. When I make enough with crypto I will buy my parents house and they will rent it from me with that money. Because where I live we pay a ton of inheritance tax and it would be a shame if their hard earned money would not go to their child. On ICN subject, i have my ICN still on Kraken but I need to move it to a wallet soon I think because it keeps growing. Do any of you hold ICN in your myetherwallet? Umm interesting, your method requires a huge overhead investment that would first need to be paid with money I actually have in my bank account without the initial assistance of my ICN/BTC funds, money that I dont have since I make less than 10,000 to 12,000 a year repairing computers here and there and once in a big black moon performing a CCTV surveillance camera installation, all freelancing, as self employed. I made a big bold move in doing the initial investment, to be frank I have purchased over $5,000 of BTC through coinbase directly off my Credit Union checking account, completely draining whatever I had saved up in terms of FIAT to take part in different ICO's then through XRP I managed to raise that up to at least $8,xxx for which I took $6,8xx out of it to incest in ICN and the rest to diversify into ETH, XRP, Incent, LTC and some others, but my big move was ICN and it seems to be paying really good, its like an hallelujah moment that I finally will have more than enough funds to realize my dream goals and there is a really great chance that I will be a future millionaire. So with all that said, I would have to fund the whole operation myself which involves me traveling to another country, becoming a legal resident there by means of a double citizenship, perma. resident, etc then starting my own business over there, its not something that can be done on the cheap. Plus the idea of moving out to a new country that I have never been where I will feel completely strange and not know my "ropes" there makes me feel uncomfortable and is something that I really would not wish to do just to have access to my legally obtained wealth through my ICN IPO investment. I only wish I can dispose of my earnings here in the USA where I actually feel comfortable. Another reason why I dont feel comfortable emigrating to another country: Yes, even through last year I made from 10k to 12k in computer repairs, I have over 2,000 contacts in my cellphone that happens to be computer repair customers of mines that I just dont feel right "abandoning" them since I will not be able to visit them any longer, I would effectively be "killing" my computer repair business, a business that CAN grow as the years pass by and I further expand and allocate more time for it since at the moment I have been running it more like a "part time" endeavor, with alot of time available to me, there are days where I literally do nothing while there are days where I drench myself working extra full time from morning and arriving home close to mid-night. I literally do no marketing, all customers I get are referrers from my existing ones, and it would be nice to keep this business alive, so once again, if I move to another country I would be killing this business Finally, why I dont feel right about implementing your idea in moving to another country, I would be walking a very fine line between operating a legitimate business and what the USA gov't would consider "Money laundering". Sure, it IS possible to start a legitimate business where I do help customer and contribute to society in general and then I could use my ICN to help fund my business operating expenses and help it grow, but if the USA Gov't decides to label my operation a "front" or whatever then I am in trouble, then I would have to spend millions of dollars in court defending my position and even if I win because after all I was operating a real business that I just happen to operate it on "that" other country, I would have lost over 90% of my ICN realized profits. So, once again, there HAS to be ways for users to be able to exchange ICN -> BTC -> USD fiat for users who legitimately got their funds such as myself and all of us ICO/IPO investors. I just find it hard to believe that its impossible for me to convert, say $1,000,000 worth of ICN to my bank account so that I can buy a half a million dollars house in a nice place and live happily ever after, so it would be a great idea to list all possible legal ways for us ICN investors to dispose of our funds so when the right time comes we know what to do and wont feel lost.
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Guy saying how to cash out money ? Use TenX and cash out through an ATM! They have a working debit card available for everywhere use. Even for US residents.
On another note: I got access to platform. So lets now discuss! At what price do i buy ICNX ? Now or wait ?
I beg your pardon, but TenX is not available to US resident and a host of other countries Quoting directly from TenX website: "NOT Shipping Countries" "Unfortunately, TenX card cannot issue nor ship to users who reside in the following countries:" "United States" Here is the full list of all the countries covered by "Unfortunately, TenX card cannot issue nor ship to users who reside in the following countries:" "Afghanistan Algeria American Samoa Angola Antarctica Azerbaijan Bangladesh Belarus Benin Bolivia Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba Botswana Bouvet Island British Indian Ocean Territory Burkina Faso Burundi Cambodia Cameroon Cape Verde Central African Republic Chad Christmas Island Cocos (Keeling) Islands Comoros Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Republic of Cook Islands Cuba Djibouti East Timor Egypt Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Ethiopia Fiji French Polynesia French Southern Territories Gabon Gambia Ghana Guam Guinea Guinea-Bissau Haiti Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands Holy See (Vatican City State) Honduras India Iran Iraq Ivory Coast Kenya Kiribati Korea, Democratic People's Republic of KosovoAfghanistan Algeria American Samoa Angola Antarctica Azerbaijan Bangladesh Belarus Benin Bolivia Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba Botswana Bouvet Island British Indian Ocean Territory Burkina Faso Burundi Cambodia Cameroon Cape Verde Central African Republic Chad Christmas Island Cocos (Keeling) Islands Comoros Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Republic of Cook Islands Cuba Djibouti East Timor Egypt Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Ethiopia Fiji French Polynesia French Southern Territories Gabon Gambia Ghana Guam Guinea Guinea-Bissau Haiti Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands Holy See (Vatican City State) Honduras India Iran Iraq Ivory Coast Kenya Kiribati Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Kosovo Kyrgyzstan Laos Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Libya Macao Madagascar Malawi Mali Marshall Islands Mauritania Mayotte Micronesia, Federated States Of Montserrat Mozambique Myanmar Namibia Nauru Netherlands Antilles New Caledonia Niger Nigeria Niue Norfolk Island Northern Mariana Islands Pakistan Palau Palestine Pitcairn Puerto Rico Rwanda Saint Barthélemy Saint Helena, Ascension And Tristan Da Cunha Saint Pierre And Miquelon Samoa Sao Tome And Principe Senegal Sierra Leone Somalia South Georgia And The South Sandwich Islands South Sudan Sri Lanka Sudan Svalbard And Jan Mayen Swaziland Syria Tajikistan Tanzania Togo Tokelau Tonga Tunisia Turkmenistan Tuvalu Uganda United States United States Minor Outlying Islands Uzbekistan Vanuatu Venezuela Vietnam Virgin Islands, U.s. Wallis And Futuna Western Sahara Yemen Zambia Zimbabwe" Thanks for your attempt to help find new ways of cashing out, but TenX will not work for us, USA resident. So back to the drawing board... Anyways, talking about the ATM card, ICONOMI said that those who invested at least $5,000 or more would get the ICONOMI Founder's Visa/MC Debit Card where we would be able to convert ICN directly into FIAT. How's that plan going, is that plan still afoot? I dont know, but something tells me that not to depend on this one and that this one we, at least the USA residents wont be seeing it.
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Feel free to discuss but please open up another thread in an appropriate category. This thread is about ICONOMI.
If you are referring to my questions, I feel this is relevant to ICONOMI, specially the part where people say they are having trouble sending ICN tokens or even Ethereum or any other tokens that depends on the Ethereum blockchain to another wallet from the Ethereum wallet, the common saying out there is that Ethereum is having some sort of SCALABILITY issues, I know I haven done lots of research in regards to what exactly is going on with Ethereum's blockchain but the things that I have read, specially on Reddit doesn't make me entirely comfortable, IF TRUE, then this affects Iconomi no? Also, many of us have invested into ICN with the expectancy of being able to fulfill our dreams and discussing ways to exchange SOME or a small percentage of ICN into USD FIAT in order for people like ME to finish paying off mortgages, (sure bank isn't going to take Bitcoin or ICN as payment directly), for some of you guys to buy their Lamborghini's etc knowing HOW to convert serious amount of USD worth of ICN into USD reliably in order to make these "dreams" a reality in the future is also important for us ICN investors, not only for us ICN investors, but everyone who partakes in any other ICO's or crypto in general, specially if we happen to be living in the USA. ----- Edited to fix a missword, I said "AVAILABILITY" earlier when I meant to say "SCALABILITY",
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People talk about buying lambos, quitting their jobs, buying 15 houses to live on 150k yearly on rental fees, and I talk about paying off my father's current mortgage (7 more years to go to finish that up under normal circumstances), and possibly buy a house for myself, etc and etc. But I ask the following questions specially for those that live in the USA, HOW, just HOW are you going to withdraw enough of these in order to make your dreams come true without facing the most probable risk of getting your bank account closed?
I know all about using Credit Unions instead of regular banks such as Chase, BoA, Wells Fargo, etc... But there are more problems:
I have been researching online and have discovered people complaining that Coinbase has been closing their account the minute the user deposits a large balance of Bitcoin in it, and by large I am referring over $10,000 worth of Bitcoins but not precisely exactly, can be more or less than this amount depending on the luck of the user and Coinbase is the only highly verified method that I have in order to sell Bitcoins to USD and send it to my bank which is a Credit Union by the way. Last year I did a test to make sure Coinbase did honor their withdrawal, I bought 1 BTC for like $500 and then a week later or two I sold the same BTC back to my bank account, sure I incurred some loss, the price had gone to $450 but I was interested in making sure Coinbase "payed" and sure about 4 days or so later those $450 made it to my bank checking account. But that was a $450 withdrawal, I have yet to perform the maximum daily $10,000 withdrawal.
So with all that said, I would like to hear your review of Coinbase, have you as a US user, been able to withdraw a large amount into your bank account without any problems? maybe those users that I read about attempted to cash out Bitcoins that were 'tainted' up to a certain degree? Meaning Bitcoins sent to them by other users such as selling stuff publicly online and accepting Bitcoins as payment from random online strangers, but I do none of that, my Bitcoins in my CB account always come from my own pockets or from the exchanges when I trade my own Bitcoins to partake into ICO's such as this one.
The other problem I have been reading is that some users are getting their Credit Unions closed for dealing with Bitcoins, so it looks like that not even the use of a Credit Union can give you the assurance to be able to withdraw your Bitcoins trouble free. So the day that I decide to withdraw enough to start making my dreams and objectives a reality, what options do I have? I feel like I am trapped in my choices, specially as a New Yorker, I am further limited to exchanges that do have a bit license such as Coinbase, bitstamp, possibly Gemini, bitrrex (can't sell to bank account there, just alts), etc and if push comes to shove I have contemplated moving to New Jersey,just 10 miles away from my current residence (my parents house) to become a permanent NJ resident that way all Ney York restrictions are gone but that would take time over 7 mo the of living in NJ before I can qualify as a "permanent ent resident" on that state other options: Pennsylvania.
So let's say you were to decide to buy a lambo when the price hits like $30+ ICN, how exactly you will get enough of the money out without getting something frozen or closed?
By the way I have a little bit more than 50,000 ICN got in with over $68xx worth of Bitcoins and now it's worth approx a little bit more than $250,000 enough to max out a single checking account in terms of FDIC insurance not saying that I plan to cash out anytime soon, I plan to HOLD until price reaches way higher, I believe that price can go higher that $50+ that burn program in combination with FOMO can make that a reality, don't be surprised if we see ICN tying ETH $ wise. For me, for every $20 ICN goes up in price, it's a million dollars, so if ICN gets to $350 I would have 18 million dollars.
And finally, the last problem I would like to take: some people are having issues sending ICN to exchanges or a different wallet because of some problem with Ethereum? It's being a hit or miss for them. What exactly is going on with Ethereum? You know that a price of $350, or even a price of $1000 is meaningless if we cannot move our tokens from our Ethereum wallets, that is the problem and what's been done as a resolution to fix this?
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however, with the phasing out of DDR, previous phones will be fine potentially forever unless they actually patch the underlying carrier issue which approximately 0.0000083% of virgin mobile subscribers are exploiting; that number decreases to 0.00000085% if you count in sprint subscribers
magicphone wanted a quick buck but i have more provisioned stock than you bb <3; the ones you sold to your customer base are worth way more than $350 now
phone also works in the UK btw
Man I wanted to buy the phone too just was too late:( iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiits...................... shhh! Hint: https://ibb.co/gXphakbtw, me too, I wanted to buy one, but like always good things must come to my attention when its way too late so I take it this worked starting on 2015 and ending on 2017, over two years. I pay Verizon $100 a month I could have saved $100 * 24 = $2,400 total had I taken advantage of this from the beginning. Edit: to replace image hosting server since tinipic failed me, It was working on day 1 and then I discover my image wasn't showing, so I switched to ImgBB.
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