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Hey guys. I recently went to China and got factory connects for great replica Designer items. The price range is generally $100-$500, to just give you an idea of the quality. Popular items are Givenchy Antigonas, Chanel Le Boy Bags, Gucci Belts, Louis Vuitton Wallets, and literally hundreds of other things.
I can't promise everything is exactly 1:1, because that honestly never exists in the replica world. If somebody advertises a 1:1 replica, they're either lying or it's stolen. If factories could make 1:1, they would just sell the items directly to the company and make more money. But almost everything is passable to the point that nobody would call you out. And durability is 100% guaranteed for everything. Real leather, a lot of stuff is 100% handmade, and it's shipped in the full packaging you'd get at the boutique.
You can hit me up with requests in the comments and I can tell you if I have it and a general price. If you're really interested, I can give you my WeChat, and I'll get you photos of the quality and whatever else you'd want. I'd like to do the transactions in BitBay marketplace, but Bitcoin is ok.
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To everyone in here:
If you want to help increase value of Bay, there is a very simple thing you can do:
Find some of your old stuff that you want to sell, and post it on the market. Markets have gravity, so with more contracts posted, more people will start to use it.
What are the names of the markets? I want to join some, but I do not know where to find a list of the market names to add. The default market is BitBay. But you can make as many new markets as you want My thing just needed to update. Now I see listings |
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To everyone in here:
If you want to help increase value of Bay, there is a very simple thing you can do:
Find some of your old stuff that you want to sell, and post it on the market. Markets have gravity, so with more contracts posted, more people will start to use it.
What are the names of the markets? I want to join some, but I do not know where to find a list of the market names to add. |
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The 'BitBay Lite' can be the exact same client software, but with a different skin, so it's super easy to make from what currently exists. If you're looking for something to add, add on something that would make it easier for sellers to use, like a way to organize orders, shipping addresses, and the order status. We already have a reason for buyers to want to use it, so now we need to make sellers really WANT to use it.
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I should specify that in the BitBay Lite, in order to initiate the contract, the buyer would have to pay immediately. Otherwise, they would be able to initiate and void contracts for low costs that would cost the seller large amounts of money.
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No I don't think you are understanding how these contracts work. They are unbreakable. Double deposit is simultaneous deposits by both sides and the payment for goods and services is advanced as well. So there is no way for either side to void a contract. Everything requires mutual consent or both parties lose funds
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I understand how the contracts currently work, but I've been trying to market this platform to various communities that I know would use this platform. The response has been that the current exact details of these contracts are not favorable in terms of people wanting to use BitBay. The first users of this platform are 100% going to be people using BitBay as a safe alternative to Bitcoin. There is somebody paying money, and somebody sending a good. If I understand the current system, it requires buyers to front DOUBLE the price of the item. If the seller doesn't come through, the buyer will lose twice as much money as the seller.
-Both parties front the price of the item as the reserve: Buyer Net Cost - $50 ......... Seller's Net Cost - $50.
-Next, the buyer sends the seller the cost of the good: Buyer Net Cost - $100 ........ Seller's Net Cost - $0.
-Seller does not send the good, and the buyer
does not consent to the transaction,
losing the reserve: Buyer Net Cost - $100 ........ Seller's Net Cost - $0.
I was suggesting an alternative contract system that would exist in addition to the current contract system. In the additional option, you would have the buyer's reserve set at .5x the price + the advance of the cost of the good/service, and the seller's reserve set at 1.5x the price.
-Both parties front the price of the item as the reserve: Buyer Net Cost - $25 ......... Seller's Net Cost - $75.
-Next, the buyer sends the seller the cost of the good: Buyer Net Cost - $75 ......... Seller's Net Cost - $25.
-Seller does not send the good, and the buyer
does not consent to the transaction,
losing the reserve: Buyer Net Cost - $75 ........ Seller's Net Cost - $25.
A net loss of 50% seems like a reasonable deterrent for each side to not break the contract. Expecting the seller to risk 2x or more the cost of the item with no risk from the seller is not reasonable in the markets you need to be targeting. Instead of a one size fits all contract formula , which doesn't work in this market, there would be customized options depending on the context.
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On top of that, the beta client still isn't working for me. I was able to download it, and it took me to the "which language" page once, but then windows firewall started asking for permissions, and the program crashed. Now it won't open.
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The fee to fund the upkeep would still be nothing compared to Ebay and such, because the system could remain highly automated and trustless on a peer to peer level with the DDE.
The 'BitBay Lite' can be the exact same client software, but with a different skin, so it's super easy to make from what currently exists. If you're looking for something to add, add on something that would make it easier for sellers to use, like a way to organize orders, shipping addresses, and the order status. We already have a reason for buyers to want to use it, so now we need to make sellers really WANT to use it. I should specify that in the BitBay Lite, in order to initiate the contract, the buyer would have to pay immediately. Otherwise, they would be able to initiate and void contracts for low costs that would cost the seller large amounts of money. |
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The fee to fund the upkeep would still be nothing compared to Ebay and such, because the system could remain highly automated and trustless on a peer to peer level with the DDE.
I think comparing it to eBay isn't the right move for now. Down the line, sure, but right now don't target eBay users. Target people using Bitcoin to buy things, because those are the people who would be willing to put in the extra 15 minutes needed to use this compared to what they're currently doing. The eBay audience would have to put in a lot more effort to make the switch to using this. The 'BitBay Lite' can be the exact same client software, but with a different skin, so it's super easy to make from what currently exists. If you're looking for something to add, add on something that would make it easier for sellers to use, like a way to organize orders, shipping addresses, and the order status. We already have a reason for buyers to want to use it, so now we need to make sellers really WANT to use it. |
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Ok, so we found a problem with the latest download. It was put toghether quickly to patch something, but broke something else. There is no virus, but wairt for David to make a new build, because you are not likely to get this to run.
Will announce here when it's done
Sounds good. In the meantime, I have a ton of ideas about marketing. I talked about some on Reddit, but the overview is that in order to get people to start using it there needs to be a small target market. For that market, BitBay trades need to be as easy as the current trades, but offer something more. I know several markets that operate exclusively on bitcoin/western union sales. The problem is there is no protection for the buyer, and it's very easy for the sellers to scam. We can pitch BitBay to these markets as an option for safe bitcoin sales for buyers. Little do they know that they're actually stimulating the Bay economy and growing the popularity. Soon, they'll bring it to other markets, and it'll grow further. Things that will aid in the adoption of BitBay by these markets: 1. Making it as easy to use BitBay from Bitcoin as possible. The fewer steps needed, the more likely people are to use it. 2. Convincing buyers about how this works. Some simple graphics that can be used to explain why BitBay is better than Bitcoin in a pitch to the target market will be super helpful. 3. Possibly having a 'BitBay Lite' download that would be impossible to mess up for the target market. Like no unnecessary features, and so intuitive that an 8th grader could use it with ease. This would be exclusively for contracts where one person is paying with coins and one person sends a good outside of the BitBay client. 4. Having the 'BitBay Lite' have preset values that favor the buyer compared to the current system. I can get into the details if you want, but people would like it most if the buyer's reserve was ~0.5x the contract value, and the seller's reserve was ~1.5x the contract value. This is just an idea to get people to start using it on a pretty small scale. It would be very minimal, very targeted marketing. However, I can guarantee it is SIGNIFICANTLY more effective than more generalized marketing, long term. This concept is a home-run and a half, but if grassroots groups don't start using it you can be sure it won't gain any widespread traction. The same thing happened with Bitcoin. It took very small circles using it for it to gain any popularity. Let me know what you think. |
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Hey, so I have some ideas about marketing, but I have an immediate issue. I tried downloading the BitBay PC Client version 1.26, and Avast antivirus flagged it as a virus. I'm not sure why it did, but now I can't install it?
Avast flagged it? I use Avast myself, and no problem. Where did you download? I can install it, but I cannot open it. It says "CreateProcess failed; code 5" or something, and then I can't open it. The first time I downloaded it and tried to run, at each step it would scan it for about 15 seconds, and then it was like it's not malware, you're good. But then when I tried to open it, it was like "woah this is a rare file, we're sending it in for a check to see if it is a virus this could take up to 120 minutes" or something. 5 minutes later, it's like "yep this is a virus we're putting it in the virus chest. So I uninstalled it, then I reinstalled it. Now every time I go to open it, I get this message. |
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Hey, so I have some ideas about marketing, but I have an immediate issue. I tried downloading the BitBay PC Client version 1.26, and Avast antivirus flagged it as a virus. I'm not sure why it did, but now I can't install it?
Avast flagged it? I use Avast myself, and no problem. Where did you download? Bitbay.market---- |
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Hey, so I have some ideas about marketing, but I have an immediate issue. I tried downloading the BitBay PC Client version 1.26, and Avast antivirus flagged it as a virus. I'm not sure why it did, but now I can't install it?
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