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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 29, 2017, 03:28:02 AM
PROOF THAT CHANGELLY STEALS BYTEBALL (GBYTE) AIRDROP REWARDS

Your mistake was using a middleman for trading, especially for a currency like byteball where there is effectively just one exchange!

All of my previous transactions with Changelly went smoothly - no indicators that this was coming - they had earned my trust.
Bittrex's surprise reduction of withdrawal limits, on the other hand, was a trust-buster for me and led me to try Changelly's service.  

Using Changelly again - that would be a mistake.


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Also the bittrex wallet WAS down for maintenance for quite a while prior to that airdrop, but they did get it online just in time

Even if Bittrex's wallet was down for maintenance for most of the time surrounding the airdrop, it's completely irrelevant.  
It's just a red herring being used by the scammers to try to keep their loot.

Just in case it's not clear, let me illustrate:

  • Byteball's DAG shows exactly which addresses held my GBYTE at the time of the Byteball snapshot.
  • Byteball's DAG also shows that those addresses received the airdropped GBYTE that was rightfully mine
  • Changelly has said that if they find that they DID receive the airdropped GBYTE that rightfully belongs to me, they would pay it back to me

I presented the DAG evidence to Changelly.  Changelly has since gone silent (9+ days and counting).

Question: How does Bittrex's wallet maintenance have any effect on the above facts?  
Answer:  It doesn't.  

Whether or not Bittrex's wallet was under maintenance, and/or when, does not change the immutable facts of Byteball's ledger which shows which addresses held my GBYTE and were therefore unjustly enriched.

The real mistake here lies with the scammers who don't understand that they're up against a ledger of irrefutable evidence.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Changelly scam? I think so - 2nd Update on: August 29, 2017, 01:29:50 AM
If they claim these aren't their addresses that means someone had access to their wallets or they decided to scam  20 bitcoins is roughly 80k usd

Yes, it's not an insignificant amount of $ by any means.

Because Changelly CEO, Konstantin Gladych, has failed to chime in, Changelly appears to be the scammers.

Changelly advisor, Charlie Shrem, didn't help their case at all either.  Charlie pushed a silly red herring argument - i.e. blaming Bittrex - rather than advise Changelly to answer:

Who owns the addresses that held my GBYTE?

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem wrote:
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First,

1- Stop including me in this emails.
2- AFAIK Bittrex wallet was under maintenance, which happens frequently. If you give me the exact timeframe I can even get proof from the CEO (Which you have failed to you as of yet)

To be clear, whether Bittrex's wallet was under maintenance or not makes ZERO difference with regard to the fact that my GBYTE were being withheld at the addresses shown in the DAG Explorer evidence.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 29, 2017, 12:53:43 AM
PROOF THAT CHANGELLY STEALS BYTEBALL (GBYTE) AIRDROP REWARDS

Changelly CEO, Konstantin Gladych, has remained silent.
Changelly advisor, Charlie Shrem, remarkably ignored the DAG evidence and, like Changelly support, tried to blame Bittrex.

What follows is the DAG evidence (and some context) that made Changelly stick its head in the sand and go SILENT.
Full details may be found here

changelly_com said:

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BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3 is actually our wallet.
Next week we will check again, was your money on our wallet at the distribution period or not.
If we got any extra GBYTE, we will definitely send you a compensation.
In other case we will redirect you to Bittrex.

I replied:
 
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BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3 is actually our wallet. Next week we will check again, was your money on our wallet at the distribution period or not.

12 minutes after Changelly received my 20 BTC, you received my 105.306518200 GBYTE in your wallet,  BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3.
Proof is HERE

But then, beginning about 2 hours later, your wallet - BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3 - sent my 105.306518200 GBYTE to the following 4 addresses:

  • CBCYP2UY6YX2FJX6OXNDHBQO4VREDUJL
  • QAHP5Z4P6QQV4S3MUVTOJM5D7SJDWPSD
  • 6H5USZBXMOYUAGCYEYF7P3A6QU2EJBCT
  • QR542JXX7VJ5UJOZDKHTJCXAYWOATID2

Proof is HERE, HERE, and HERE.

If Changelly owns the 4 addresses listed above then, YES, my money was in your wallet during the snapshot for the Byteball distribution.

If you claim that Changelly does NOT own the 4 addresses above then:

Why did you send my money to these addresses?

and

Who owns these addresses?

Again, as of 8/28/2017, Changelly has not responded.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Changelly scam? I think so - 2nd Update on: August 21, 2017, 03:02:21 PM
Changelly responded:

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BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3 is actually our wallet.
Next week we will check again, was your money on our wallet at the distribution period or not.
If we got any extra GBYTE, we will definitely send you a compensation.
In other case we will redirect you to Bittrex.



I replied back:

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BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3 is actually our wallet.
Next week we will check again, was your money on our wallet at the distribution period or not.

12 minutes after Changelly received my 20 BTC, you received my 105.306518200 GBYTE in your wallet BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3.
Proof is HERE

But then, beginning about 2 hours later, your wallet - BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3 - sent my 105.306518200 GBYTE to the following 4 addresses:

   1.   CBCYP2UY6YX2FJX6OXNDHBQO4VREDUJL

   2.   QAHP5Z4P6QQV4S3MUVTOJM5D7SJDWPSD

   3.   6H5USZBXMOYUAGCYEYF7P3A6QU2EJBCT

   4.   QR542JXX7VJ5UJOZDKHTJCXAYWOATID2


The proof is HEREHERE, and HERE.

If Changelly owns the 4 addresses listed above then, YES, my money was in your wallet during the snapshot for the Byteball distribution. 

If you claim that Changelly does NOT own the 4 addresses above then:

   1.   Why did you send my money to these addresses?, and

   2.   Who owns these addresses?
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Changelly scam? I think so - 1st UPDATE on: August 17, 2017, 10:06:55 PM
Changelly scam... I think so.

from changelly_com via /r/CryptoCurrency sent an hour ago

Dear Nttwo, once again let us explain the issue.
Your exchange was completed 5 august once we got confirmation of your 20 BTC for exchange.
We've provided that trade to about 105.68 GBYTE on Bittrex, one of our exchange partners.
As amount was rather huge, we've requested withdrawal from our Bittrex account.
Unfortunately at that moment their wallet was under maintains.
We've temporarily stopped GBYTE trading on Changelly too.
Once Bittrex reactivated Bytebal wallet, we've sent your GBYTE to the initial requested address.
Transaction hashes you can find in your exchanges history on Changelly, it was at 9 August.
We do apologies for the delay once again, unfortunately not all the things are depending on our service. Blockchain is rather new not so stable industry. And speculative trading is always risky.
During the contribution period your funds were saved on our corporate account on Bittrex, we didn't get any extra funds there. So we have nothing to compensate you, sorry.
Hope for your understating.


Hello Changelly,

Thank you for your response.

I hope you understand that due to the amount of money here, this will not go away in your favor unless a court finds in your favor.
I think it would be preferable for everyone concerned if Changelly did the right thing and issued me a refund.

I have just a few questions. If your explanation is true, then you have a great opportunity to demonstrate Changelly's commitment to its customers and the crypto world.

Before the questions, I want to make one point clear:

The problem here has nothing to do with the "risk of speculative trading", or risks associated with the nascent blockchain industry.

Just as there were no risks to anyone holding BTC on August 1st to receiving their BCH. If you had BTC, you got BCH, period.
This is no different. If you had GBYTE at the time of the snapshot, you got 20% more GBYTE - no speculation or risk involved.
Thus, at a minimum, someone was unjustly enriched by holding my funds.

Please answer the following questions:

Here is the Tx where the 105.306518200 GBYTE owed to me was first delivered to Changelly's pay out address.
https://explorer.byteball.org/#Q2PTWTIHqHDUzDk3suTKtX37VN2ntKmcrUdttUG8oWQ=

The relevant details are:

  • Received: 05.08.2017 11:40:22 (about 12 minutes after Changelly received my 20 BTC)
  • 105,306,518,200 (BYTES) to BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3


1) Please confirm that BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3 is indeed Changelly's address.

2) Is the address above from Changelly's Bittrex corporate account wallet?

3) Is the wallet in #2 the one that you claim was taken offline by Bittrex for maintenance just after you received my 20 BTC on 8/5/2017 at ~11:28?

4) Please explain why Changelly did not send the GBYTE from the Tx above to me at that time?

5) Lastly, here is a subsequent Tx that occurred ~2 hours later on 05.08.2017 at 13:35:07.
https://explorer.byteball.org/#DiHg/Sc4wtpLugwjOJMSj8NmHsEPLAw78K759PG102I=

Can you explain this Tx?
To whom did Changelly send my GBYTE?
Who owns those addresses?

Thank you for helping me to understand how Changelly was neither negligent, nor nefarious here.
Your answers should clarify who was unjustly enriched at my expense, Changelly or Bittrex, or someone else.
It would be great to know if it was Bittrex, as they're local and I can drive over to their place and speak with them directly.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Changelly scam? I think so on: August 17, 2017, 02:55:09 PM
Thanks for your reply and advice.
If I don't receive a favorable response from Changelly today, contacting authorities is exactly what I intend to do.
Will keep this thread updated with how things progress.
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Changelly scam? I think so on: August 17, 2017, 09:45:48 AM

I've been very patient with Changelly since August 5th when I submitted my first support ticket on this matter.  Now that it's clear to me that Changelly runs a drag-it-out support strategy, it's time to go public.

Is Changelly a scam?

You be the judge...  please leave your opinion in the comments.

CONTEXT

The transaction (Tx) at issue here is BTC for GBYTE (Byteball).

For those not familiar with Byteball:

Byteball has no mining; its native currency - white bytes (GBYTE) and black bytes (BB) - was created back in December 2016 and has since been distributed, as widely as possible, via ~monthly airdrops.  Every full moon since December, a "snapshot" has been taken of the balance of bytes held on each and every Byteball address, and of the balance of every registered BTC address.  Shortly thereafter, each address receives new bytes based on the balance at the time of the snapshot.

The last snapshot was August 7, 2017 18:10 UTC (11:10 PDT), and new bytes were distributed as follows:

  • For every 1 GBYTE held on any Byteball address, you got 0.2 of new GBYTE
  • For every 1 GBYTE held on a linked Byteball address, you got 0.4222 of new BB


One last thing: Byteball's immutable ledger of Txs is stored in a construct called a DAG (Directed Acyclical Graph), analogous in function to bitcoin's blockchain.

WHAT HAPPENED?

On August 5, two days before the Byteball snapshot, I initiated a Tx with Changelly to trade 20 BTC for ~105 GBYTE. 
Changelly took my BTC, but held on to the GBYTE, collected my Byteball reward, and then sent ~105 GBYTE 4 days after I initiated the Tx.


Changelly effectively stole my ByteBall distribution.

When hours had passed and still no GBYTE, I sent my first ticket, and support  responded:

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"It seems that there could be some technical issues either with our wallet or with Gbyte network. We will investigate the matter.   We have forwarded your request to the technical department. They will push your transaction through.  We will inform you, once your issue is resolved!"

On August 7th, before the snapshot, I submitted two more support tickets.  I told Changelly that if they couldn't deliver the GBYTE before the snapshot, I wanted my BTC back.  Support responded on August 8th 2:06pm  (long after the snapshot):

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"Unfortunately, we cannot refund your bitcoins since they have been already converted into GBYTE. But you will receive the same amount since your money has been already exchanged.  Please confirm your GBYTE wallet address and we will repeat payout. All the issues seem to be fixed now, so it should work."

I responded, explaining why the only reasonable remedy was for Changelly to refund my BTC.  I did not confirm any GBYTE wallet address. 

Support ignored me and sent the following on August 9th:

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"Good news! We have received the response from the exchange and now everything has been delivered!"

I wrote to Charlie Shrem, an advisor to Changelly, and he forwarded my complaint to Changelly CEO, Konstantin Gladych.  I've also emailed Gladych many times directly myself.  Zero response.


CIVIL LIABILITY

Under civil law, Changelly has been unjustly enriched and is liable to pay restitution. 

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Unjust Enrichment. A general equitable principle that no person should be allowed to profit at another's expense without making restitution for the reasonable value of any property, services, or other benefits that have been unfairly received and retained.

This principle is widely recognized and applies to Changelly here regardless of whether they did anything wrong.  This is essentially why Coinbase and Poloniex changed course and gave their customers the BCH that was due to them.


CRIMINAL LIABILITY

Changelly is clearly liable under civil law.
 
What about criminal liability? 

Using a DAG explorer, we can browse Byteball's immutable ledger of Txs and discover the following:

1) Changelly provided proof of payout.  We see 105.306518206 GBYTE sent from address, BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3.
    https://explorer.byteball.org/#i/f2u2jLUmIRIpVYD+6Sav9xLayb5WpY2gn864RSUrI=

2) 8/5 11:28, Changelly and I agree that this is when Changelly received my 20 BTC.

3) 8/5 11:40, 12 minutes later, 105.306518200 GBYTE arrived at Changelly’s pay out address, BRAAXVBQPDBBCUQWHW4BHBIDDKTWJYW3.
    https://explorer.byteball.org/#Q2PTWTIHqHDUzDk3suTKtX37VN2ntKmcrUdttUG8oWQ=

All Changelly had to do was send it to me.  What happened?

The GBYTE was diverted to the following addresses, which subsequently received the airdropped GBYTE that rightfully should have gone to me:

  • 31,447,997,156 to CBCYP2UY6YX2FJX6OXNDHBQO4VREDUJL
  • 51,788,023,285 to QAHP5Z4P6QQV4S3MUVTOJM5D7SJDWPSD
  • 21,763,859,830 to 6H5USZBXMOYUAGCYEYF7P3A6QU2EJBCT
  • 306,636,259 to QR542JXX7VJ5UJOZDKHTJCXAYWOATID2


The DAG also shows plenty of Tx activity over the relevant time period, also strongly suggesting no technical issues were to blame for Changelly's delayed Tx.


Did you know…? 

Under the Czech Republic's Code on Corporate Criminal Liability both Changelly and the individual perpetrator(s) would be criminally liable.



WHAT NEXT

Changelly… fix this immediately.

Up next we’ll explore…

- how to connect employee identities to the suspicious Byteball addresses
- inner-workings of Changelly
- the Bittrex and Changelly APIs
- behind the scenes of the Changelly-Bittrex connection
- Konstantin Gladych’s relationship with the European Cybercrime Center
- presenting evidence to Czech and U.S. prosecutors
- comments from devs re: Changelly’s technical excuses for failed Txs
- similarities and differences between Changelly and BitInstant




8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Official Newbie BitInstant Support Thread (Active Customer Support) on: April 12, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
Hello Charlie, Yankee, Ursay, et al at BitInstant:

Please open a support ticket and/or add this market rate at the time of deposit discrepancy to your support list.  An incorrect market rate was used when BitInstant fulfilled the following cash deposit to bitcoin address orders.  Our calculation shows that BitInstant owes 0.74328086 BTC.

Thanks for your assistance in correcting this.

2 x ZipZap/MoneyGram cash deposits were made to fund bitcoin wallet addresses:

4/10/2013 02:40PM PST, $503.95 ($480.05 after fees) to 1PAnA5WoSV9iXvKTKYZ7VvAsUcmUX1LsKJ
4/10/2013 02:48PM PST, $503.95 ($480.05 after fees) to 182BXFTnXoie81qRnT8o8zTFKkiPRuqex3

BTC weighted price on Mt. Gox at approximate time of deposits (retrieved from bitcoincharts.com):

4/10/2013 02:40PM PST, 1 BTC = $177.59
4/10/2013 02:48PM PST, 1 BTC = $161.43

Expected BTC deposit:

$480.05 / $177.59 = 2.70313644 BTC
$480.05 / $161.43 = 2.97373475 BTC

Actual BTC deposited (incorrect exchange rate USD) (discrepancy BTC):

2.41687470 BTC ($198.62) (-0.28626174 BTC)
2.51671563 BTC ($190.74) (-0.45701912 BTC)   

Total BTC due: 0.74328086 BTC

If BitInstant concurs, please remit 0.74328086 BTC to original BTC addresses (listed above).

Further details of the payment orders and transactions are provided below.

Thanks for your attention to this matter. Have a good weekend.

_______

BitInstant Quote for Cash Transactions:

Quote ID: 6baaba74-d2af-4a9b-a565-815d46f60bdd
Event ID: c92a4c58-741c-4111-acaf-76111d800ea8
______________________________________________

Quote ID: cf933b89-2a33-4c23-b385-1d982282efcf
Event ID: b7734e6e-eef5-41b8-8960-e3dc60d943f2


MoneyGram/ZipZap Receipt Data:
4/10/2013 02:40 PM PST, deposit: $503.95 ($480.05), Ref#: 98126918
4/10/2013 02:48 PM PST, deposit: $503.95 ($480.05), Ref#: 62658366

Blockchain Transaction Data:
4/10/2013 15:16 PST, BitInstant deposit to bitcoin address: 1PAnA5WoSV9iXvKTKYZ7VvAsUcmUX1LsKJ
Credit: 2.4168747 BTC
Transaction ID: 432d6bdebd5b0b3ee98d231772a72a92c0aa018eb0d016c55dbfc513b88f5dc7

4/10/2013 15:25 PST, BitInstant deposit to bitcoin address: 182BXFTnXoie81qRnT8o8zTFKkiPRuqex3
Credit: 2.51671563 BTC
Transaction ID: ec8f97ee1cafb48eaf5b5875a1042082466b60fe8b1ae7cde81dbd9a43ceeca2
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