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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Announcement on closing ViaBTC exchange platform on: September 15, 2017, 07:02:39 AM
So next may be OkCoin and Huobi... Things getting worse. I remember ViaBTC is also the main driving force for China's BCC investment
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO is officially banned in China !!! on: September 04, 2017, 10:18:15 AM
Just as an additional highlight, from 3:
任何所谓的代币融资交易平台不得从事法定货币与代币、“虚拟货币”相互之间的兑换业务
法定货币 means literally "Legal currencies", 代币 means Tokens and “虚拟货币” means cryptocurrencies
So... exchange between fiat and tokens OR cryptocurrencies are officially banned. Even if the cryptocurrencies themselves are not banned, such action serves a great blow nevertheless.

No possibility that this means "no token/crypto or token/fiat trading?"

Did someone forget to tell the Chinese exchanges? Because their BTCCNY tickers are all chugging away normally right now. If cnLedger says that this doesn't affect cryptocurrencies, then I'm not jumping to the opposite conclusion yet.

In the FT's coverage of the story, they also seem to refer only to ICOs (the "cyber currency fundraising mechanism"), not assets like BTC:

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Bitcoin eases after China blocks key cyber currency fundraising mechanism
https://www.ft.com/content/56035558-2fc8-3662-b649-01066f69e26d

I've updated my previous reply. Actually you did make me found something I am not quite sure about. Interesting though...

As for "no token/crypto or token/fiat trading", I go by my original translation
法定货币与代币、“虚拟货币”
与 serves more as "and" and 、serves more like a symbol combining the latter two terms into one single term. So it should be "no fiat/token or fiat/crypto trading" (source: I am a native speaker of Chinese)
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO is officially banned in China !!! on: September 04, 2017, 09:58:07 AM
Brief English explanation of the announcement: (I am not a good translator so correct me if necessary)

1. ICOs = illegal fundraising. Bitcoin and Ethereum are not currencies and should not be used as currencies in transactions.
2. No organizations and individuals are allowed to start ICOs, and ongoing ICOs should stop immediately with investments send back to investors.
3. (Important) No cryptocurrency exchanges are allowed to offer currency-to-"cryptocurrency" exchange any longer, a.k.a. e.g. no CNY-to-Bitcoin or Bitcoin-to-CNY exchange allowed.
4. Financial institutes that are not banks must not offer any related services.
5. Investors into ICOs must take full responsibility into their actions (that is to say, if you lose your assets through such "investment", no laws would protect you)
6. blah...

If this is accurate, point number 3 is a pretty big concern and will impact trading in China massively.

Yes this is accurate. see my translation also. no fiat to crypto, not even USD.
I posted a longer translation in #12

@cnLedger, a popular source for Chinese cryptocurrency and Bitcoin news, made this clarification just now:

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5/ To clarify, in the notice PBoC used two different notions: Crypto-Currency (BTC, ETH) and Tokens. ICO ban =/= Crypto-Currency ban.
https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/904638606857330688

It sounds to me like this is aimed strictly at ICOs, not cryptocurrencies. But naturally, this is a developing story and I don't think anyone has a full grasp on the ruling. Also, the PBOC changes their mind all the time...

Just as an additional highlight, from 3:
任何所谓的代币融资交易平台不得从事法定货币与代币、“虚拟货币”相互之间的兑换业务
法定货币 means literally "Legal currencies", 代币 means Tokens and “虚拟货币” means cryptocurrencies
So... exchange between fiat and tokens OR cryptocurrencies are officially banned. Even if the cryptocurrencies themselves are not banned, such action serves a great blow nevertheless.

OOOPS.
Just reviewed the original line:
代币融资交易平台 = Token financing and exchange platforms
I am not sure if exchanges such as OKCoin are considered a major "Token" exchange platform (instead of Cryptocurrency exchange platform). So I am not quite sure about the wording now...
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO is officially banned in China !!! on: September 04, 2017, 09:07:01 AM
Brief English explanation of the announcement: (I am not a good translator so correct me if necessary)

1. ICOs = illegal fundraising. Bitcoin and Ethereum are not currencies and should not be used as currencies in transactions.
2. No organizations and individuals are allowed to start ICOs, and ongoing ICOs should stop immediately with investments send back to investors.
3. (Important) No cryptocurrency exchanges are allowed to offer currency-to-"cryptocurrency" exchange any longer, a.k.a. e.g. no CNY-to-Bitcoin or Bitcoin-to-CNY exchange allowed.
4. Financial institutes that are not banks must not offer any related services.
5. Investors into ICOs must take full responsibility into their actions (that is to say, if you lose your assets through such "investment", no laws would protect you)
6. blah...
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