Agreed that a docking station something like Sentio but with an extra CPU is just an interim solution for what will eventually be all processing power located remotely on servers with our computing device communicating wirelessly. If the CPU on our docking station never accepts apps (only accepts requests for computation with no buffer overflows nor privileged escalation possible) then it can be designed to be secure and thus we do not have to expend much effort maintaining it and it can be a publicly shared device.

Within the next 5 years^*, our smartphone will be our secure device, but not in the way Apple is planning. Every smartphone will have essentially a Trezor on board (a minimal extra circuit adding maybe $10 in cost at high volumes and IC integration) and it will be an isolated computer from the rest of the smartphone with only a secure serial communication line. The secure hardware will be 100% open source (not this closed source BS from Apple) so that we know the Five Eyes national security apparatus have no back doors (although we need some way to verify the chip fab is not introducing back doors). Whereas, the generalized computer on the smartphone can never be a secure device because for example I read that smartphones are even vulnerable to hacking of the radio hardware on the device to for example turn on the microphone surreptitiously.

For privacy and security, our smartphone will be our identification and signing apparatus that we carry at all times (and eventually wearable and later embedded in the body 666 style). Our shortened passphrase or biometrics for signing will be rate limited and thresholded such that if stolen it will brick itself after too many failed attempts, because as I wrote before about HumanIQ and Proof-of-Person, biometrics can be fooled with synthetics. Your paper wallet will retain your master keys which you can use to recover your accounts (and invalidate the keys on the stolen smartphone) if you smartphone is lost or stolen.

And we need everyone even the fish vendors in developing countries to have a smartphone because this will be much more efficient than cash (vendors often run out of change here in the Philippines for example). So $600 iPhones are not going to fit. I know Apple’s overconfident/arrogant attitude is they do not care because they are generating huge revenues from the affluent class, but w.r.t. to currency I agree there will only be one; thus the masses will dictate the winning currency (note I am not referring to unit-of-reserve which will likely remain for example the US dollar for fiat and Bitcoin for cryptocurrency for the time being). All that do-gooder environmentalism and security FUD marketing from Apple, yet the truth is they do not give a fuck about humanity and only care about extracting maximum profits.

Apple (with the highest revenue of any company of the world, but not the largest market cap probably because of the following point) will refuse to provide this in a smartphone because it conflicts with their business model for Apple Pay. Apple’s walled garden services are their fastest growing revenue source and their market cap is highly dependent on them being able to monopolize the extraction of rents from their ecosystem. In short, Apple must own you the user, else their market cap will collapse. That is unless Apple could entirely reinvent themselves but changing culture of the employees is virtually impossible. There is absolutely no way that Apple Pay will win against permissionless blockchain payment system which nobody owns or extracts fees from. This problem has only been solving the scaling and winner-take-all centralization problems of blockchains, but I have already solved that.


Very interesting to me is our software for small screens (or more saliently less detailed gesture control due to large screens possible with wearable AR glasses) must integrate/adapt better with our software for large screens (or more saliently fine grained gesture control over interaction with the system). For the interim this can mean that the generalized computer on our smartphone is enabled with something like Sentio, so that the app (must be programmed to) adapts immediately with any screen size.


The viruses being introduced by apps on Android can be solved with my idea for an “app browser" that creates a stricter sandbox. Most apps do not need to have accesses to the low-level APIs and buffer overflow injection holes (that can enable privilege escalation attacks in order to for example gain root access) they get with the full generality of the Android OS. Also the “app browser" can be upgraded immediately on any Android phone solving the problem of latest version of Android OS not diffusing through the ecosystem of hardware. This applies the concept of separation-of-concerns; whereas, Apple attacks problems by conflating concerns into a top-down controlled jail which creates more problems. There is no need for Apple’s walled garden. Curation of qualities of apps can be done by user curation, with users signing with their cryptographic reputation to eliminate the user spoofing problem with user driven curation. Each of us can choose which moderators we follow w.r.t. to curation. All decentralized. No 1984-esque Apple Big Brother owning our lives.


^* Someone raised the point of it being dubious whether people will be ready to trust their smartphones within 5 years. My thought was that within 5 years, the necessary blockchain will be in place and gaining usership, and that smartphone will become available. Not that we will achieve even 50% market adoption within 5 years. My point is that writing will be on the wall in terms of a fledgling new market within 5 years that is growing much faster than anything else and subsuming everything. Reviewing the comments made by Millennials in my prior post, it is clear to me that Millennials are hungry for change, embrace technology fully, are not loyal, and are pragmatic. Their main failing is they’ve been indoctrinated by boomers (about BS lies such as environmentalism and the value of non-STEM field education) and thus they are unrealistic about economics. But some minority or perhaps up to half up them will turn very quickly as they start to wake up. They will get on the cryptocurrency train because they have no other chance for a future. Apple corralling them into a consumer-only swiping jail on their mother’s sofa while China races away totaling obliterating Apple and laughing their heads off at the nonsense ideology of the foolish Westerners. Chinese are astute about economics and Apple is too. But Apple depends on their users being dumb (i.e. indoctrinated with lies, marketing spin, and FUD).

Someone also asked if people will not have money to pay for iPhone then they will not have money to pay for TV (in his country the citizens pay for TV and I suppose everyone does in any country if they have cable TV). I responded as follows. People will stop paying for TV and get their TV over the Internet. It is all about not wasting resources on things that are not a good return-on-investment. The clever of the Chinese think of every expenditure as a business investment. See how iFlix is undercutting Netflix in Asia ($3 monthly instead of $7 in the Philippines) and addition to Western also with Asian content not available on Netflix. And they will stop paying through the nose to Apple, when they can get everything for 1/3 the price on Android and more freedom too. Bitnet will not be available on iPhone. If the global currency everybody is using is not available on iPhone, most will stop using iPhone. Apple’s business model is all the ecosystem has to give Apple a percentage and thus iPhone is a jail tightly controlled by Apple. Whereas, since Google’s profits come primarily from advertising sales, Android’s business model is open and any .apk can be installed even if it is not on the Google Playstore.

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Tor and Tails have significant flaws. I do not recommend them. Did you not read my blog (not yet finished) on anonymity?

My friend, I must say that nearly everything you post about privacy and security is wrong and unsafe. For example, you keep wanting to use off chain mixers even I have told you many times that (they are either jammable or) you must trust the mixer site to not be compromised. And then you use an iPhone too. Which shows that you are not knowledgeable of the technological issues and you just trust whatever you read. Which is why you are making so many mistakes.



I am happy at least one reader understands. More will understand once we get in action and they have tried it. And we have perfected blockchains and payments with them.

P.S. I am having a severe allergy problem from my toxic liver in that my immune system is attacking my only non-blinded eye. I am fearful about going blind. I stopped the liver toxic TB antibiotics (had 9 days remaining) last night. I can not keep my eyes open they hurt so much when light hits them. I think I may try to go to an eye doctor to get the pressure in the eye checked. Maybe I can get glaucoma drops to lower the pressure if that is one of the symptoms. Very scary moment for me.

Other than the eyes, I feel fine and want to work.

As you can probably tell from my writing I am exasperated that I can not work for past several years! I prefer to let my code speak.

UPDATE:

Subject: eye doctor found a serious problem

I was at eye doctor (who happens to a specialist on cornea surgery) and she said I have a 6mm x 1mm abrasion on my cornea in my only non-blinded eye. She scraped to put on slides for the laboratory, to check for bacteria, fungus, and TB, Will get results at 4pm. It is 11am now. It could be an infection or it could be autoimmune reaction. We will get a better indication once we get results from lab. She prescribed Tobramycin drops interim every hour (a gram-negative antibiotic). She said my eye is very inflamed and she is very concerned. Any way, if it is TB then we will know I have MDR-TB. I suspect Michelle brought me this infection when she returned here this past week. She has still been coughing. I told her she is not allowed to go any where any more and bringing me infections, else she can not stay with me any more. I am so tired of filipinos bringing me infections. I restarted my probiotics just now (with butter) to try to strrengthen my natural immune system. I could definitely feel the immune reaction connected to my gut, so I am suspecting maybe it is just an autoimmune reaction. Will update you later. This is very worrisome.

I also did another set of liver enyzmes and CBC blood test (so I can see how high my lymphocytes are). Will get the results later today.

This relates to the OP of this thread.

Is the future of mobile computing small screens or docking on large screens?

The original comment was made here, but as usual I seemed to get banned where ever I go.

P.S. James A. Donald who first challenged Satoshi on the scaling (and centralization?) problem, has written about the Scalepocalypse. Yet I have those technological solutions he wishes for in an altcoin. (note side-chains are irreparably insecure). Details will be forthcoming on my Steemit (so follow me there!).

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Edit: Will Millennials have to learn to do creative work, so they can work remotely to live in lower cost jurisdictions, or just continue to swipe their life away on a smartphone while sleeping on someone’s sofa? Is pulling income forward 30 years with debt not a massive bubble compounded by sovereign debt/welfare/socialism bond bubble that has finally come to its Minsky Moment?

https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Anthony-Negron-4 (Bingo!)
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Anthony-Saldana-3 (There you go!)
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Charles-Stone-6
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Mateusz-Mroov
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Nick-Chang-26
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Faith-Paul-2
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Karim-Elsheikh
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/William-Beteet-1
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Gustin-Fox-Smith
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Craig-Weiler
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Christopher-Ordway
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Michael-Brescia-2
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Ross-Wilson-20
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Torie-J-Patterson
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Grant-Schmutte
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Amy-Harris-56
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Ben-Skirvin
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Henriikka-Keskinen
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Dave-Sloan
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Anika-Pasilis (note the Millennials in UK with their leader Corbyn are trying to turn the UK towards Communism)
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Bee-Rogers
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Henry-Solomon-Crampton-Hays
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/Nikolite (interesting the perspective of a borderline Gen X/Millennial)
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answer/James-Edward-Hinds
https://www.quora.com/Do-millennials-feel-more-entitled-than-previous-generations/answers/47876582

The above comments are very interesting for getting inside the minds of Millennials. Whoa so Henriikka-Keskinen says (and you see the environmentalism indoctrination in her writing which Apple cleverly markets to) they are going to save the fucking planet with educated women and get the same fucked result we get every time we do that because…!

Mark apparently does not think that there are serious problems today that could impact the a move away from iPhone's walled garden to Android's more open ecosystem. I claim that we need large screens and keyboards to be productive and he claims that only coders need that and that smartphone users who spend money are not (and by implication do not need to become) creators. Afaics, he is essentially arguing there is no need to focus on the needs that creators might have on mobility that might differ from those who use computing only to be consumers. The implication is that 700 million iPhone users can never significantly be creators, only consumers. So where is their income going to come from?  I posit that perhaps new monetization models can enable people to earn money in more ways as creators and that such monetization (e.g. via blockchains) models might be incompatible with a walled garden, i.e. I think Apple will stifle such innovation because they want to funnel all payments through their services so that Apple can take 30% fees. No way the world is going to give Apple 30% of everything. I believe the world will become much more level playing field with fierce competition.

My point to Mark is that if everyone will only be consumers and not creators, then who will have the jobs to pay Apple $1 per day? If Apple is catering to a bankrupt world in which everyone just swipes and never creates, they will not succeed long-term. If the world has become more financially difficult, people are not going to be willing to give 30% fees on everything to Apple! Competition of the free market will route around that parasitic rent.

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I hope you did not drink the iPhone security and privacy FUD Koolaid. You give Apple closed-source control of your life and then claim you want anonymity and privacy. I presume you do not use the iPhone for anything you want to remain private from authorities. (A smartphone is a metadata leaking device (e.g. hotel IP address) even if you are using another device for sensitive activities.)

If you are not intalling shady apps on Android, the anti-malware advantages of Apple’s (technological and) economic totalitarianism are probably not significantly better in practice if you are upgrading your OS every 6 months or so.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-worlds-most-secure-smartphones-and-why-theyre-all-androids/


Seems you may be missing the point? By docking and having the ability of your smartphone to function as a full-fledged computer, then you do not need to repurchase the laptop every time you upgrade your CPU. In other words, over time the software utilitizes the faster CPUs so normally we upgrade our CPU. Without docking, you would have to buy a new laptop and a new smartphone, instead of just a new smartphone.

Also all of your files and work are immediately (within a second) accessible simply by plugging in your smartphone to the docking laptop. No need to lose time transferring files around. This also presumes that apps on small screens will add features for working with documents (e.g. a quick annotation added) that you primarily edit on a large screen.

Also it means you can dock on a friend’s or public access docking station (e.g. a 50" screen at a conference room) without needing to lug around another laptop.

Wireless data access (especially WiFi) may become so fast, ubiquitous, and cheap that the different devices can get the necessary documents off the cloud. But the duplication of CPU/GPUs cost argument remains (and we probably want the most powerful CPU/GPU we can afford, especially for highly creative work such as animation). Also the more we travel, the less sure we can be that in every circumstance we can get files off the cloud fast and low-cost (gouging tourists is known profit activity). And what about those rare instances when the cloud goes down, e.g. that 2016 Dyn DDoS attack that took large chunk of the entire Internet down (would suck if you have a conference presentation or other time-critical important work to do).

Even more important from my perspective, is not needing to maintain the file systems, apps, and OSes of two or more devices. That is half of the hassle. My life is already too complex. I do not want to maintain more devices than I need to. You must have extra time on your hands. I find maintaining multiple devices to be burdensome.

It is all about simplifying our lives and conserving scarce time.

Also although perhaps you can afford to buy multiple copies of CPUs, the billions in the developing world probably can not. I am talking about a world where there is much greater competition and incomes on average are much lower than they are now in the West (virtual employee gets less than 50% of quoted rates and I anticipate possibly those not-highly-specialized-expertise rates will be initially for a decade be driven down or stagnant by developing world competition and Western economic implosion). Asia is coming. My Belgium friend and I were relating how the Philippines will see incomes double or triple in the 10 years, but that still this would be unacceptable quality-of-life for our Western expectations.


You never had an idea you wanted to jot down while walking around?


Tablets do seem to be dying.

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ePaper screen (non-backlit, easier on the eyes for reading but too slow for animated pointers and such on screen) which Blutooth docks to my smartphone would be perfect.

A tablet can be useful when we want a larger screen and only want to point and swipe. But the use cases seem to be too few to justify lugging around and maintaining another device. I do not know if Blutooth docking (wireless) I/O would be fast enough so that the docking laptop screen could be detached and also run as a tablet.


Another motivation for an “app browser” is that users will not have to be concerned nor involved with installing and uninstalling apps. The sandbox will be secure and one will simply click an app link to run it and the caching of the code will be automatic.


Ah, I see that is what I just wrote about above for a wireless display. It would nice if it also optionally attached to a keyboard to make a laptop or if has a built-in flip out stand and if my smartphone can accommodate a Blutooth keyboard and mouse. A tablet without an attachable keyboard, probably still needs a screen protector (or carrying case) when traveling with it.

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When I need to sketch (as opposed to structured shapes+text drawing), I prefer a pencil. I suppose there might be a few cases where I would be okay with a stylus on a slippery screen, but I really need the friction of paper and pencil to sketch. My sketching with a stylus slips all over the place and is fugly horrible. As for text, even though I had beautiful handwriting in elementary, I can barely handwrite now as it an order-of-magnitude too slow compared to my typing speed. I loathe typing on mobile! Can become an enormous waste of time! I try to do a little as possible on mobile. This is why apps that require mostly only finger gestures for most actions are more popular on mobile. But I rarely use my Blutooth keyboard, because the setup time/hassle is greater than the occasional terse note I want to type.


Syncing is for me yet another step that consumes my time. I have no free time. I have a TODO list that only grows longer the older I get.


Yeah I remember now having researched that option years ago but a problem at that time at least, was it did not seem to work plug-and-play on every device. Some fiddling and frustration and failure. Probably glitchy too (as even Blutooth seems to be at times).

And still even if it is now reliable, we have to lug around a full size monitor which is not compact and then we have no battery option to use it unplugged. I like that laptop docking idea because it also charges the smartphone meaning the smartphone CPU will run at run speed as if it is plugged in to a wall socket.


Well the fact that mobile apps do not adapt well to work well both in large and small screens is one of the important aspects I want to address with an “app browser" concept for Bitnet. Because I want convergence between mobile, desktop, and browser code, so we developers can write-one and run every where.

I think I read that mobile CPUs are roughly about 1/8th of the performance of a desktop CPU fundamentally limited by TDP power dissipation (can not dissipate more than about 3 watts for extended period of time and perhaps 7W in bursts inside of a plastic mobile phone). But the faster CPUs get, the fewer computing activities we do which have a noticeable delay, so the noticeable nominal differences are shrinking over time. Also the desktop CPUs can’t increase TDP on same die and multi-core can’t always be leveraged optimally by all software, thus the gap may close proportionally over time as well. However, we must bear-in-mind that the smartphone uses for example dedicated hardware video codec processors in order to attain TDP efficiency at such computationally expensive tasks. Thus a smartphone is underpowered as a general purpose CPU for highly computationally intensive tasks such as video editing. In that case, we would need an additional processor in your docking station. But note that by leveraging the CPU and specialized processors in the smartphone, the docking station’s TPD can me much lower (more battery efficient) than a desktop. Thus the docking laptop idea seems to make more sense than lugging around an HDMI monitor that can only be used where there is an electrical plug, because the portability and battery life are another factor that make it worth leveraging the low TDP CPU and processors in the smartphone. Meaning I would like a laptop docking station with a larger screen, keyboard, and a co-processor on board. Possibly in the future, the co-processor could be on a server accessed over the wire.

https://www.quora.com/Are-smartphone-processors-finally-comparable-to-PC-processors-in-terms-of-performance/answer/Michael-Daniel-21


But once again another special case device complexity between two filesystems and OSes that I have to figure out how to setup, remember how to setup if ever (i.e. a form of long-term maintenance after I long since forgotten how I set it up).

I would rather have something that works the same with all Android phones and does not require me to maintain synchronicity between two disparate systems.


More and more complexity and Murph’s law.

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@miscreanity, I can talk faster than I can type, but last time I tried it on Android, the recognition engines can’t reliably keep up with my fast speech (never tried Siri). If ever speech recognition (and latency back to the server or local computation) gets good enough, then possibly I can finally ditch the keyboard except I think it will be exhausting to speak everything I type and especially “cursor up”, “cursor down”,  “cursor to end of line”, etc.. I agree that the monitor could plausibly be replaced by a headset (or perhaps holographic projection?), except still need a docking station for the pointing device and when presenting (unless all of the audience was also wearing headsets). But in any case, we still need apps that work well at many different display sizes and modes of use (i.e. terse gestures vs. detailed manipulation), which is one of my main points here w.r.t. to my plans for an “app browser" concept for Bitnet.

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I will explain why i think that is nonsense, at the appropriate time and in a venue where I am not banned.

@r0ach, fungible money is the problem. Collaboration via forced consensus is the solution. Solving the defect-defect problem is the paramount issue. Gold and silver have nothing to offer.

Hopefully @CoinCube will post my last private rebuttal to @dinofelis, and I am banned, so do not expect this comment to stay here very long.

Goodbye, I will see you on the Bitnet side if you are smart.

Government is going away. Networks never will go away again. Your conceptualization is all wrong.

The Luddites (those who refuse to accept that technology changes everything) are always the losers.

@r0ach why don’t you go join the Amish? But they do not use gold and silver.


Ignore the drama. Bitcoin is not likely going away any time soon. (Orthogonal to selling high and buying low, and buying altcoins which actually introduce something very new such as when I advised to buy Byteball at $1 million mcap because the consensus algorithm introduced something important and new, although Byteball has serious other flaws it has not stopped it from being an excellent speculation during a bullish BTC market phase)

Bitcoin will likely spawn important ecosystem effects (i.e. was Napster representative of the final outcome of P2P networks and decentralized file sharing?), some of which may correct flaws and expand on what decentralized consensus is really for (which is not mainly fungible money, but rather fixing the defect-defect problem of civilization and hopefully eliminating the winner-take-all power vacuum if the ecosystem figures out how to do this).

The silver of Litecoin is that it can apparently be modified more easily, as it is apparently more controlled by Bitmain. Good or bad, it is what it is. (In 2013, LTC reached 0.05 before BTC crashed. Might happen again, might not.)

@sidhujag, the black swan is not very black. We know it is the dollar short vortex stampede as the EU goes into cardiac arrest. That will only be a dead-cat bounce for the USA though. The Western governments+socialism are a clusterfucked morass that will destroy itself in an accelerating rate with the EU going over the cliff first 2018 or 2019ish (and the USA+US dollar+US equities will be a deadcat bounce beneficiary and then the USA follows into absolute political chaos by 2022ish and then actual chaos in the streets 2024 forward and by 2032 - 2040 the USA will wither away in the height of coming mini Ice age which is confirmed by scientists). The intelligence and technology of the West can not overcome the defect-defect organization of society at the winner-take-all devolution end game stage. And China’s demographic problem is not as catastrophic as it is feared to be, because they and Japan have billions of people in their economic region which they will migrate to, cultivate, and invest in. It is the common cultural values that most all Asians actually believe in hard work, family, death penalty for drugs, etc... all those core values of a productive, coherent civilization we lost in the decadent West. So Asia can coalesce in one economic region with no significant demographic weakness, unlike the USA and Europe whose immigration has lost the cohesiveness of a common language and set of core, productive values. Note there are laggards in Asia, but the leading productive societies in Asia can cherry pick migrants and thus the laggards will either get their heads out of their asses or wallow in squalor (socialism will not be coming to their rescue any time too soon ... socialism is what destroyed the West). That the white Asians are forced by economics and demographics to cherry pick integrate with the brown Asians is another factor that will drive the economic engine of the region and counter-balance the historic xenophobia. In Singapore, I saw Indian workers all over. I know more and more educated filipinas are in China. I just hope we do not go into a Dark Age. The tinfoil hats would take us there if most productivity was buried in the ground as they do (which is an abomination in the Parable of the Talents), but hopefully the technologists will show us the way forward with decentralization technology.

Asia is already integrating at a rapid pace. It is more an indentured servant model, and that motivates the brown Asians to take on the culture of the white Asians to some degree. But you are correct that they do resist cultural adaption to a large extent and do backslide, but then they get sent home and replaced with a new set of indentured newbies. Very strict laws and discipline in the white Asian countries. For example in Hong Kong there are timers on cross walks and police standing there if you do not obey. It is perhaps not as potent as the model we had in the USA importing white Europeans who quickly assimilated to a very hard working culture, but the sheer size of the population of Asia is a greater economic force and economies-of-scale. Also Asians can build their own economies with their diverse cultures in addition to coalescing with the white Asians, which seems to fit well with the coming age of decentralization (which will also fit well with breakaway States such as probably Texas and perhaps Florida). But I do not see why those breakaway communities would choose gold or silver as money! They will of course choose blockchains because more efficient, less dangerous, more options for fitness, etc..

If you must stay in the USA, I suppose pick your State and community carefully. Probably Texas and Florida (and maybe S. Carolina?). Also the Midwest such as Dakota, Wyoming, Utah, but the coming Little Ice age makes those unattractive. I am not European so I can not comment with any insight on Europe other than what I read from Martin Armstrong and hear from other European friends. I suppose there will be breakaway State (countries?) in Europe as well. It is not clear to me if the UK has made clean break and sufficiently away from socialism to abate the clusterfuck. I would probably lean towards States more affiliated with Russia and not in the EU. I am not there on the ground so I do not know which States have low levels of socialism in Europe?


The government does not need to find it. They can stop you from selling it in liquid and safe markets. With all cash being electronic, they can shut off all reasonable black markets. Instead you will either bury it in the ground thus destroying all the capital it could have represented (impoverishing your future generations who inherit it), and/or when you do try to trade it at some ridiculously low trade value, you will also expose yourself to becoming a target of kidnapping, house break ins, ambush, and extortion. You simply can not trade gold without some people knowing that you did.

Tinfoil hats think the current gold dealers and trading options will remain or expand. They going to have a nasty reality check. And when totalitarianism and capital controls does abate after some decade(s), then the public is not going to want gold, because civilization will have so far advanced into the digital age. Really the epoch for tangible stores of value is ending. Those who cling to it are Luddite dinosaurs.

Also remember that the government will always steal the lowest hanging fruit first. So of course even though many people will stampede into gold as the governments collapse because it is historically known safe haven, it is the perfect way for the government to destroy the majority who do so. The minority will go into blockchains and will be too difficult and not cost effective for the government to confiscate en masse. Confiscating gold is very easy, just block all the on/off ramps and transport hubs (checkpoints). The majority is always wrong and always the greater fools.

I entirely believe gold is now entering its final days. Digital communication changed everything.

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Without a force of consensus there is no convergence and you get defect-defect divergence.

You are referring to it being voluntary whether to participate in the consensus. Well it is also voluntary whether you live and vote in the USA or not, but many people would argue it is not really voluntary to live in the USA due to family obligations and other inertia. And not voting does not mean it is voluntary to disobey laws created by governments who are voted in.


They both have the socialism and winner-take-all corrupt governance problem that will not resolved in any other way except collapse and disintegration.

Both must splinter into breakaway states in order to avoid a Dark Age.


At the macro level both are major technological and investment drivers of Asia. Japan is bottoming on its economic collapse at about same time as China is finishing its correction in 2020 and then both will rise together along with S. Korea & Singapore leading Asia to be dominant in the world. India will also play a role. And China is massively investing in Africa as well.

That to me is the dominant theme, although of course there will be other sub-themes such as your Christianity focus as historically tried solution to defect-defect (which works but also leads into ideological decadence like any other mass delusions so, i.e. it makes a very fertile soil for Marxism, socialism, totalitarianism).


As usual and expected, I think you demonstrate aliasing error confirmation biases because of your infatuation with religion as a solution.

Christianity is one of many phenomenons going on in Asia. It is not the macro dominant theme as far as I can detect.

The dominant theme afaics (and I am here) in Asia is 1800s style capitalism.


USA and Europe both are gluttons on socialism. The USA is following Europe’s lead. When the USA economy collapses, then you will see how few Americans really have the independent anti-socialism culture of our ancestors. I suspect it is rather small minority.

It is easier for people to claim they are conservative when they are well fattened and have jobs. But when their skills are no longer needed, then we will see their true character when they beg the government to do something. And then fight and steal when hopelessness sets in.

Look at the churches. They are mostly all corrupt. Most all took non-profit status with the IRS and there is a huge corruption issue there.

White people are in a massive defect-defect arrangement stealing as much as they can from each other before the debt machine breaks down.

After that, all hell breaks loose and we will see the true character of people.


And it is not religion or any other such "solution" which operates by delusion and mind programming.

Decentralization technologies are what I am pursuing. I had my time to experiment with the religion delusion. Been there, done that.

EDIT: And CoinCube, I am not against the wisdom in the Bible on personal choice basis. What I am against is using ideological mind control as a weapon of mass destruction as the side-effect of employing as ephemeral defection prevention paradigm. I see you expecting that Christianity will sweep over China and cause a glorious transformation. But to me this is the sort of ideological conquest expectation that causes religion to be so dangerous. This morphs later into ideological conquest via other means such as socialism when the religion is unable to achieve absolute conquest (because the underlying motivation/desire/delusion for ideological perfection). I am so tired of snotty white people trying to "teach" others right and wrong, etc, when they can't even manage their own households. To all religion folk, keep it to yourselves on a personal (or even family clan or local community) basis as Jesus instructed in Matthew 6:5. Then we know your intentions are not overreaching. If I want to spread blockchain consensus, it is because it is an objective rational paradigm which has nothing to do with any particular ideology being forced on anyone. Only the consensus of ordering is forced by the blockchain. The blockchain is agnostic to what sorts of arrangements humans decide to encode on it.

EDIT#2: Of course, I want to help the world become one where diversity and maximum divison-of-labor can prosper. So that the world can become more interesting. That is congruent with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics as well, which is the trend to maximum uncertainty. Defection is only a problem when we require group coherence, e.g. for reproduction for example. But as we increase the degrees-of-freedom, we need less absolute total ordering of coherence. The paradigms are changing. We may not even need our bodies to reproduce when we become digital. When we think about how we relate to each other, are we able to truly accept and appreciate our differences? Jesus was I think very far along in terms of that. I think the scripture someone quoted for me Luke 9:51-62 he is saying that all these worldly things do not need to get in the way of aligning our heart with the basic principles of goodness in the Bible, i.e. do not covet, do not steal, do not idol, do not be selfish, basically respect the maximum diversity and support it within the limitations of the world in which we live in. But that world is changing. The degrees-of-freedom are probably increasing. I do not understand all of this yet. I need to think about this when I am well rested. I enjoy this philosophical stuff, but right now is not the right time for me to really dig deep on it. I think this is why I do not like organized religion. It stomps on diversity. I think I should have emphasized that blockchains may be trying to increase diversity of coordination more than they are increasing control against defection. They are increasing degrees-of-freedom and reducing the amount of total ordering consensus we require in order to interop in civilization. Instead of this monolith of governance+legal tender, we can flatten the structure to just a total ordering and let the diversity of partial orders proliferate within that less confining structure. I will have more to say about this when I am well.

EDIT#3:


In the past, the most successful evolutionary strategy for an alpha male was to not marry, but rather to scattershot his sperm.

We needed top-down force in order to prevent every male from competing to be an alpha male, because society would collapse without someone raising the children.

As we move into the knowledge age with maximum division-of-labor overtaking the Theory of the Firm, because of better coordination in the transparency of the Inverse Commons (why do you think I am working on blockchains for maximizing degrees-of-freedom of transparent coordination and filtering of free-rider defectors aka rent-seeker parasites Coasian costs/barriers such as closed source centralized databases!), scattershot no longer is effective because of the amplification that knowledge will provide. Thus now alpha males also need to shift strategies into harems where they are responsible fathers. If alpha males throw their male offspring to the chaos of upbringing in the general society, their offspring will rarely attain the knowledge to be effective in competition in the gene pool. Because we are moving from a random dart throw on mating to a categorization of genes and informed selection.

Information theory is becoming paramount.

An alpha male could potentially devise a system wherein he has other males doing the raising, loving, and cherishing, but these males can not be random. He can no longer just scattershot and walk away and expect to be successful. Well I guess that is what religion was for, so he could insure there was an adequate pool of compliant men to take care of his offspring. But top-down State level control is no longer effective due to advancement of information technology. Diversity is proliferating. So just as the economies-of-scale of fungible money, fixed capital investment, usury, and the Theory of the Firm are dying, so is the economy-of-scale of scattershot sperm for the male. Sperm needs to now be directed with information.

Alpha males need a more efficient and information based delegation system for raising offspring. Essentially organized religion was the efficient way to delegate the alpha males corporation of family. But now that level of economy-of-scale will no longer be viable/competitive.

So alpha males will become more numerous, not less. But their strategies will become more informationally attuned.

Moralizers’ and ideologue’s perspective is far too moralistic and arbitrary. They need to look at it more factually and scientifically. They idolize women too much for example. Just look at it from the standpoint of maximizing group selection. We do need the alpha males.

The historic nation-state level scattershot alpha males are failing now. We are in a transition to the smaller economies-of-scale and more specialization, and the society is highly misdirected into weak activities because of the debt bubble (which is going to have a catastrophic implosion). The top-most of those historic alpha males will attempt to move to globalized scattershot, i.e. increase economies-of-scale to offset the loss of efficacy, but this is futile (as the Bible predicts). We are moving forward towards "the return of Jesus", which I think is just an information theory advancement.

Sorry if my stance is not as romantic and more based in trying to discern what will evolve as factual success in terms of reproduction, maximal production, and maximal effective reproduction.


Atheism is a religion. The problem is that it encourages defection to individual rationalizations yet provides no economic model to make that viable. Thus it only survives on debt socialism.

The economic model of Christianity is one of subjugating individual priorities for maximal production, cooperation, and non-destructive behavior. These principals and wisdom are fine. I think the key for me has been learning about how defecting from those principles actually destroys my individual multi-generational strategy. Then I do not need fear of a God to hold me accountable.

I think the fear is really about self-destruction. And isn't that what the Bible says. God does not decide to destroy us. We do it to ourselves.

My problem with religion is when people do not understand it rationally and get all wide-eyed. And also I do not like the notion that we have control others, such as control the weak men. Even the Bible speaks a lot about letting it work itself out naturally (delegating to God). Of course there is Romans as to what kind of strict governance we will get if we can not learn to not defect en masse.

I am trying to find the technological means to optimize. I do not like ideological dogma and winner-take-all top-down control of large-scale (eventually totalitarian) organized religion (this seems just like another form of governance which is why JAD is correct then you need a State religion).


The universal strategy is that by supporting cooperation and the increase of the diversity of competition, we enrich our own experiences and increase our species fitness. This is why we reach out to our fellow man who is in need, because we appreciate that without each other then our existence is irrelevant.

But I do not conflate that with a need to top-down control all the outcomes or the need to have one strategy for everything. My goal is to reduce Coasian costs to enable better fitness.

Just because we have diversity does not mean our only strategy is to defect and destroy each other. When we realize that our own success hinges on the group success, then we are incentivized to support the group and not support those who defect in the sense of valuing mankind overall even though there can be a diversity of activities which are not all universal. The universal strategy only needs to cover the broad theme of valuing each other but does not have to dictate only one way of organization when in fact those different competitive strategies are not preventing any other group from attempting their own strategy. As long as there are no Coasian costs preventing the strategies from co-existing, then there is no conflict which requires one strategy necessarily defeat the other one.

With technological improvement to remove the Coasian costs then defectors can do much less damage thus we do not need to top-down control them. This removes that failure mode of a winner-take-all power vacuum.


You are only focused on the scarcity of the fungible money supply but that it not the main use case of blockchains nor the important future direction of civilization. Blockchains are about maximizing degrees-of-freedom of transparent coordination while providing an objective means to bypass and filter out parasitic Coasian costs. It does not matter if we have 700 different blockchains as long as everyone can find the coordination they need on one of them.

However, society does tend to rally around a standard. The problem up to this point is that none of the blockchains have gotten all the technological and marketing details honed well enough to take the standard bearer tag. Bitcoin had first mover status and the widest liquidity for the monetary token, but it can not scale on chain (ever no matter what happens bcz linear block size increases do not solve exponential scaling and unlimited block size does not have consensus!) and it can not fulfill the more salient use cases of blockchains. Ethereum and others still have not gotten the details worked out. All blockchain consensus algorithms thus far are winner-take-all power vacuums, i.e. that have a long-term failure mode analogous to democracy, governance, and politics. Why do think I am working on Bitnet. Once a blockchain attains standard usage for example replacing all the centralized databased on the Internet, the other 700 altcoins will wither away. And then one monetary token will win. It is difficult to predict how Bitcoin will evolve in this scenario. So many factors at this point are in competition and we do not know how all this is going to play out exactly. I for example am still moving frustratingly too slow because of the antibiotics make me delirious and can't keep my eyes open for more than few hours a day (but at most only about 45 more days of these fucking meds and I may just quit early because my liver seems to be at limit of the toxicity it can tolerate although this risks a higher chance of return of the TB). So much in flux right now so I can not give you a more definitive rebuttal at this time. Just stay tuned and do not think that no one sees the opportunity. Of course the majority of the ecosystem will continue to just focus on taking speculator money with the easiest half-assed bullshit copycoin designs. More masternode PIVX, Decred, etc nonsense. But there are some who are determined to do something and who have declined very gracious, lucrative offers to cash out to speculators (ask @sidhujag).

IMO, you are misjudging the ecosystem far too early as if you had said P2P file transfer will always fail because Napster failed.

Bitcoin is important at least because it enables this ecosystem that will very likely eventually spawn the government killing, fiat killing, precious metals killing solutions. Whether it ends up being Bitcoin or not is not really relevant as Bitcoin will appreciate in either scenario. Bitcoin will at least remain the on/off ramp between fiat and any crypto currency for the time being. And any transition away from that will have an adequate period of development to be obvious to all those who are paying attention. Maybe Bitcoin will somehow figure out how to do everything off chain, but do note that I already explained that Side chains are fundamentally insecure and can not be fixed. And I explained that off chain transactions are fundamentally centralized thus moving away from the entire use case purpose of blockchains. The links to these detailed expositions are in my archives and are cited in my whitepaper.


The majority has an incentive to reject any invalidate state, because otherwise the entire blockchain becomes a farce. Defection becomes impossible over the long-term and the blockchain is self-healing. I think it is possible to attain this without PoW and without PoS.

So it is just a matter of having a deterministic rule and paradigm for recovering against exceptions, but the devil is in the details of this because most such designs would get stuck in a defect-defect divergence scenario, e.g. if the network splits then PoW splits into two chains which if sustained for too long can possibly never be re-merged due to the vested interests in the double-spends and block rewards that would need to orphaned. But this is because the miners are vested. Now if you change who is vested and the majority of those who are vested are not complicit in double-spending, then the recovery and deterministic rule is dominant. This is the sort of revolutionary design work I am doing. Again the further details are even more interesting.

Then everyone has an incentive to provide this redundancy. This is one of key design decisions in Bitnet which enables unlimited scaling. The details though are IMO even more interesting.

I have not yet seen eMunie’s (renamed to RadixDLT) consensus algorithm specification but that he is planning a pegged currency indicates to me guaranteed failure. When analyzing USDT, I researched all the pegged designs (e.g. Bitshares, etc) worked out the theory of pegged currencies and realized they can never be viable over the long-term, no matter how you design them (I forgot where I wrote down that analysis). I notice the Scrypto JavaScript based language for apps, so I wonder if they are trying to copy my Lucid PL ideas. Any way, no problem. I wish someone else would fix the JavaScript ecosystem so I do not have to, but I do not think anyone else will or can any time soon, so thus I must do it.

Farewell to BCT with this final post. Follows a summary of wisdom (re-)gained.



Edit: In that ICO link above, Ethereum is Netcape and I hope Bitnet will be Firefox, W3C standards, Chrome, and the iPhone.












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If you actually read what I wrote (and the background explanations of why we need a decentralized forum), then you would understand that it isn’t the content of @Lauda’s actions that are relevant to the problem at hand, but rather the fact that he has privileged centralized appointed power due to the default trust list.

By default putting all new forum users into a crab bucket with our shoelaces tied together, creates a crab bucket outcome.

With a decentralized forum, I could careless what @Lauda does. He and zillions of other idiots can off doing as much retarded stuff as they want and it will all be ignored from my areas. @kiklo can also do what ever he wants to do. And nobody can blame any centralized power for abusing their privileged position of authority.

Crab buckets become extreme as society descends into a clusterfuck of political correctness. For example, now if you are not gay, you are discriminating against a gay if you refuse to let him fuck you in your asshole.

(and if you had read my posts, you would understand that I think the activity of @Lauda and the mods is idiotic)

When we have decentralized forum, then Lauda can do what ever he wants and others can do what ever they want, and they will all have no one to complain to because nobody will be in control.

There is no unequivocal proof for your allegations of retardness, thus what does that say about the retardness of your post? Centralized systems (like tying our shoelaces to each others) make us all retarded.

It is not true that the most productive action is to mire one's productivity with those who will waste it, thinking that amiability will make for a better result. That is why I wrote to you before that the smart people (the A-listers) do not participate when they see gatekeepers railroading a bad design. Instead they go do productive work, while the clusterfuck destroys itself.

It is somewhat analogous in these groups where they have a Code of Conduct which says they respect all diversity of humans, but then they use their political clout in insidious ways (passive aggressive behavior) to stifle an objective technical debate and also they do not have an open mind and instead want to be in control. The entire CoC thing is really a mechanism for control (as is always centralized governance, which is why I am working on blockchains to replace all centralized databases on the Internet, bcz all those centralized things are going to destroy themselves).

So really the smart thing for me to do was to never participate in that Node.js Issues thread.

Actually I am a man of peace, not of war. Yes I am very competitive, but that is for sports. Work should be a collaboration, but amongst A-lister peers.

Point is if we involve ourselves in failure, we also become a failure. I think this is a very important point that applies to all of at this time wherein the West is collapsing. I think we all need to be very much more aware of the failure we are exposing ourselves to by not wisely choosing who (and which groups, jurisdications, situations) we do and do not involve with. In my case, if I continue to involve myself with failure, then you all would be wise to not involve with me. I am making some changes in my activities.

Remember that democracy exists because what can not be "solved" via voting goes to civil war. So the "solution" is to run up the debt and satiate everyone, until that solution runs out of rope.


I need patience to understand the other A-listers are often correct or at least partially correct, as was the case recently with @keean and the closures issue. It was JavaScript's 100% dynamism that was fooling me and made me conflate the function instance with the closure (because that is what JavaScript does). It was some miscommunication between us also. Also I still have the effects of foggy brain not yet always 100% alert or clairvoyant due to these meds and illnesses. Very frustrating!

But no patience with the B-listers, instead never even engage. My huge mistake in life has been engaging with people of all walks of life, because I was idealistic wanting to emulate Jesus also believing that I came from nothing and didn't want to view myself as different or higher than others. So I got frustrated. Now I need to learn that I will not survive if I do not learn that I can not engage with B-listers (nor lunatics!).

There is something in the Bible about not trying to speak to those who will not listen. Do not throw your pearls at swine, etc..


Absolutely. That is my biggest weakness. Has always been.


P.S. the discussion continued into being supportive of all humans, not viewing others as beneath you, how to deal with irresponsible people or those who drag you down without being judgmental, about how I am not Jesus and can not bear everyone's suffering on my back in order to be totally understanding and supportive of every person. Then myself shutting down the conversation because I need to go to gym and how my resources are finite and how at this time I am trying extricate myself from the situations that have depleted my resources and no comprehending how I could possibly be supportive to everyone except on some superficial level, and then just throwing out there that maybe that means I didn't delegate to Jesus (claim that he died for our imperfections so that we do not need to be perfect) or something like that, but then it feels like I am losing my rationality and becoming insane so I just shut it down.

Very true. Our world has gone insane. Another example is Github just allowed me to banned on a very important topic about how Node.js will transition from the old module system (CommonJS) to the new ECMAScript ecosystem-wide standard one.

The gatekeepers there are clearly wrong. They should not create a new JavaScript file extension (breaking many things) just so they can conflate require and import. The new EMCAScript standard module system should not be shoehorned (forced unnaturally) to interopt with the old one. They are forcing very bad design onto a very large ecosystem and I am very confident I will be vindicated in the end.

All centralized databases must die. I intend to kill Github, Reddit, BCT, Facebook, etc.. I am working (as many hours a day as possible) on the foundational technologies. Note that link only updates every few hours so activity so far today does not yet appear (at the time of posting this).

As the sovereign debt collapse worsens in 2018 to 2020, we are going to see massive increase in totalitarianism and people will think that it does not bother them (until it does then it will be too late for them). When you burn the books of free speech, society collapses into a 600 year Dark Age.

P.S. Hahaha. If you think I am blunt...

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7524

Kudos to elder ESR.

And this is timely and apropos also:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7516

The mods do not want you to know the reality about Bitcoin.

Note the edit.

@dinofelis, you need get grip on reality. Bitcoin and crypto-currency is going to be a $10+ trillion phenomenon. And the EU is going to crash and burn.

The relevance of this to the bans and problems of this forum, is that this forum needs to be able to accommodate the diversity of people coming into crypto. It can’t remain a Millennials’ wet-dream and remain #1 and most relevant on our rapidly expanding ecosystem.

It is an ad hoc convention to tag that a term is a username as opposed to alternative meanings of the term in prose. Also some systems (e.g. Steemit, Github, and Stackexchange) will automatically link the username to their profile if prepended with @. For example, some usernames are English words.


I would agree with you, except that red text plastered on every post in Altcoin Discussion on the person who was abused (for readers using the default trust list which is virtually all the new users that altcoins target). IMO that is a crisis for those afflicted.


This is an official forum for Bitcoin (and thus for the crypto ecosystem including altcoins, with 46% of the marketcap in altcoins and increasing rapidly) and there are $millions (soon $100s of millions and then $billions) at stake here and for altcoin developers to be slandered/banned on a whim is a serious crisis from our perspective.

I am sorry but this clusterfuck is not going to stand very much longer. There are many forces that need a decentralized, trustless, permissionless system for communication with this $billion (soon $trillion) market.

This is a big deal.

Essentially BCT is cutting off his own future by not adapting.

Edit: some weeks ago @micreanity mentioned that many investors from outside our crypto-currency ecosystem were approaching him asking about Bitcoin. Then we see lately that $billionaires are investing in Bitcoin and even altcoins (see Tezos). And this week Martin Armstrong who had been very pessimistic about Bitcoin, suddenly recognizes that it could be the alternative global currency after the coming collapse and monetary reset due to the sovereign debt crisis and dollar short vortex with even central banks buying USD-denominated equities.

Armstrong is now starting to understand some of my thesis about the future of Bitcoin:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/bitcoin-criminals-authorities/

But he does not seem to understand that Bitcoin was designed to push the masses off chain into regulated scenarios (e.g. Lightning Networks on
Litecoin) by rapidly rising transaction fees (see links below for the math), because the technologically the blockchain can not be regulated by any non-global government (Armstrong is still apparently ignorant of the most important technological facts about blockchains):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.msg18859434#msg18859434
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.msg18878987#msg18878987
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.msg18888361#msg18888361
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887077.msg18903670#msg18903670

The regulation of Bitcoin comes when the world government takes form and the few elite on the hills in Jerusalem want to enslave the $billionaires. Bitcoin is very much part of the 666 plan and outcome coming, but it comes in stages.

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I never bothered to do it because I do not use the trust system.

The red and green text on avatars caused me to realize there is some corruption in this forum because most users see the same as what I see, because we all do not give a shit about the trust system. We came here for the forum discussion.

I hate kissing ass to centralized authorities. No way. Never will be.


Effectively (aka pleonasmically de facto) he does, because of the red text plastered on the avatar for every reader using the default trust list, which is virtually all readers.

And that includes anyone else on the default trust list who is gains pleasure from dictatorial actions.

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Because I do not need those (non-)“peers” in order to succeed. And also when I know I am the correct side of the future outcome, then I am not concerned about losing. Humans herd together in what they (mis-)perceive to be the dominant paradigm, because they do not want to be losers (yet the majority is eventually always wrong).

P.S. your explanations were touching on points that I did not make or did not explain as well as you did. Thanks. And no you are not my sockpuppet!

What is going to be very hilarious is when the scammers learn to game the trust system and turn it into a total clusterfuck.

I will find the post (in the “Bitcoin killer” thread) where I explained how to attain a Nash equilibrium without proof-of-work by leveraging the crab bucket mentality of human nature! (well that might be construed as ban evasion so you will have to go find it)

The end of the fungible, economies-of-scale, tangible winner-take-all, tragedy-of-the-commons age and the ushering in of the Inverse Commons knowledge age changes the paradigm:

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The winner-take-all power vacuum of fungible finance, usury, and the tangible (economies-of-scale) industrial and agricultural ages enables that paradigm. The Inverse Commons will break us out of this.

@ImHash was on my ignore list when I was @iamnotback. And here is yet another justification for why he was on my ignore list.


He involved @Theymos because the Trust system design is broken. If it were not broken, nobody would need to complain to Theymos about it.

Theymos is the one who took $50,000 in BTC donations (back when BTC was 1/50th of its current value, so really he took $2.5 million in donations) and promised to improve the forum but never did. I read on Coindesk that he had contracted (afair in 2016) some Blockstream engineers and was spending $50k per month. One can only speculate about the incompetence or corruption that might (or might not) be going on. What ever the case may be, the forum has never been improved.


How do you know he has not done that? That is his personal life and he is not obligated to communicate his preparations publicly. It is an orthogonal issue that has no bearing whatsoever on the issue at hand. You’re constructing a strawman argument.

Ridiculing an 84 year elder is despicable.


He is running an altcoin thus has a duty to care what people see as red text slandering his forum avatar.

How do you know he does not care about his spiritual situation.


Bearing false witness is not a virtue. Even Jesus said he came bearing a sword against the corrupt, unrepentant ones. @Lauda is not repentant. I quoted him upthread saying he derives great pleasure from dictatorial actions.

I agree @kiklo did lash out and I did write that 4 wrongs do not make it right. But note my point about aliasing error.


Pride cometh before thy falleth.

Well some of us do not want be part of such a groupthink clusterfuck and we are busy working to form an escape before your clusterfuck collapses.


Well they tried to replace centralized idiocy with worse centralized idiocy.

But I am different breed.

For all you Bitcoin maximalists, note Bitcoin’s share of the total crypto marketcap has fallen to 54%. It is about time for you to wake up to reality.

There are some quick and easy solutions available.

1. This site is first and foremost a forum and not a site for doing trade deals between individuals (or at least many users join with that perspective). On localbitcoins, I see a trust rating by default, because trading is the primary function of that site and there is no forum. The most egregious flaw is the putting red text on the avatar of the forum identity (apparently only in some sub-forums such as Altcoin Discussion) accusing of being a scammer. This then affects all the forum activity (even retroactively to all historic posts!) which has nothing to do with trades. For example, myself and others have had their past accounts hacked (accounts where I had scrambled the password), then our archive of posts now has bullshit red text on them even though that has nothing do with the activity when I was posting using those account. One of my angel investors has red text all over his past posts because that account got hacked (he quit the forum since that because it is a clusterfuck of waste). It is the conflation of these two activities (forum posting and trading) which is such an egregious clusterfuck. Thus there is no reason to have that red text there. Anyone who does a trade without checking the Trust system for the user who they are trading with, thus has no awareness of the Trust system and thus thinks BCT is only a forum. The forum is not liable, because the Trust system is available and is documented. Remove that damn red text for those who are using the default trust list!

2. Show the trust list blatantly on the Trust page. The “Trust settings” link is not conspicuous enough and clicking it gives no clue what the “Default trust” is about or even how to use it.


Never is the problem the fault of the users. Until you accept this reality, you will never be a world class software developer. Never blame the users. Those who are offended by my expertise … oh well …


And I think he was 100% correct to not waste his time on a broken piece-of-shit design. Why should he beg to @Lauda? Lauda should never have this power to put red text all over his forum avatar.


It is the faulty design of the system. And @kiklo was pointing out to the other users how arbitrary the system is and how the fault can waste their time too. Because the nature of collectivized clusterfucks (i.e. tragedy-of-the-commons) is that no one cares until they are affected:

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That is aliasing error akin to looking up at a stopped clock at 6am and 6pm and concluding the clock is functioning properly.

If you just looked at his action as a point sample then yes you could argue that, but taken holistically, then clearly @kiklo was trying to inform others how the system could harm them arbitrary.

Being part of the groupthink, you slander his motives while protecting your collectivist system. Rather than looking objectively at the problem holistically.


I am coming cured from TB and so am having some lucid days (also still some bad days), so I have always tried to not let my illness impact my rationality and perspective, but the fact it that it did many times. And there was not a damn thing I could do about it, even though I tried everything I could to overcome (before I was diagnosed with TB so I did not know about any curative medicine for some years). Physical suffering is physical suffering and even the mind is impacted. You will never understand this until you are chronically ill with a condition that persistently painful or delirious. I was very strong before I got ill with TB, so I also was cavalier and incompassionate as you are (well maybe not totally but I did not have the understanding of chronic illness that I have now). So I do not entirely blame you. I had even asked my (now ex-) wife and others close to me to wear a patch on their eye for a day to know my new life after I was blinded. They all tried it for 15 seconds and refused to do it. Lack of compassion and selfishness is a human nature. Jesus spent his time among the afflicted and suffered immensely. It is something I also tried, but I admit it is horrible.

Eventually I will blog about perhaps we can leave this physical dimension and move onto the informational plane of existence. Yet I think we will also miss this physical existence?

In short, I do not blame you for your perspective. I am informing you about another perspective.


Okay I understand the world is diverse and we can not absolutely stereotype. And I will cheer any youth that I find to be interesting and valuable. Yet we perhaps draw some generalizing trends between generations, but of course I hope I can relate to all age groups, because diversity makes life interesting. I am skeptical (because I am so skeptical of anything the boomers and collectivism/socialism created, although I recognize every stage of human development is a prerequisite to the next one) but also I do have some friends in all age groups.


@kiklo and I also butted heads in forum discussion in the past. He is a feisty or obstinate one (and I am too but I do not put blue text in all my replies when I am agitated). I joked with @kiklo in a PM that I can only imagine what he was like as a teenager if he has this much fight in him at age 84, lol. But it is not my nor @Lauda’s value to decide for everyone else. We need a decentralized moderation system so that we have a more accurate appraisal of the value of the posting to a wide diversity of readers.

And so then if @kiklo finds he is Ignored every where, he will realize it is his fault and can not blame any centralized moderators. I am not assuming he would be. He has his style and he did point out some technical details sometimes. IMO, he was not a worthless poster.

@kiklo was angry because he is/was marketing his altcoin here and the red text on his avatar slandered all his Altcoin Discussion posts. I think this was justifiable and actually he could perhaps justify a lawsuit but these things are difficult to win especially he voluntarily participated in the system. Nevertheless, the system remains broken. Somebody even posted here in Meta, belittling his altcoin as if he is not justified to have that as an economic reason to be angry about the abuse.


Political correctness is a trait that I vehemently hate.

I rather like diversity and indecent behavior when justifiable. Makes life more interesting.

"Give me liberty, or give me death!" — Patrick Henry

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure." — Thomas Jefferson

In my other posts (just click my profile as I do not have so many posts), I have explained some details about why banning anyone is entirely unnecessary with a sufficiently designed decentralized system with decentralized moderation.


Banning spamming is analogous to banning any activity that is economic yet some people find offensive (a subjective matter thus can only be properly handled with decentralized moderation and economics, not dictatorial, totalitarianism). Collectivists always think they can ban economic activity and then wonder why it never works, because they flunked Economics 101. Global banning (as opposed to decentralized moderation) is Sisyphean, worse-than-useless (i.e. iatrogenic) busywork for twits who like to be in positions of corrupt, privileged power and authority.

Note I wrote a post and the mods deleted it and didn't even send it to my PM folder (Edit: note it later appeared in), so more of same totalitarian shit ongoing. This time I will archive this thread so I have  record of all their worse-than-useless corruption. I find it hilarious to see these useless mods doing activity which is analogous to the slaves digging the labyrinths of the pyramids with spoons.


With decentralized moderation, then the group leaders will delete the spam from their threads and even set spammers on Ignore so that they do not have to repeat the effort. No need for perma-banning globally.

You might argue this is a duplication of effort, but there is a great cost to totalitarianism. Collectivism/groupthink fails catastrophically in clusterfucks.

And when every post has to attach a small micropayment then spammers have to do an economic activity. An economic activity is not spam, regardless if some people are offended by the activity. Decentralized moderation anneals to the fitness of the diversity of subjectivity.

Why would people pay to post? Because they will earn more from posting than they do from not posting. And because the payment is so miniscule compared to the benefits attained. Why would they not then prefer a free option? Because the free option will be laden with totalitarianism, circle-jerking echo chambers, and/or uneconomic spam (e.g. the negative value of Facebook Likes). Note the onboarding paradigm will provide a means for those without money to earn their way into the system in way that is not a road block or discouraging (and is actually encouraging).

Tada! It’s magic.

More magic coming to blow your fucking minds. And to value twits at their actual negative economic value and not the one of delusions of self-importance. An no, I do not respect those who destroy value. Why should I? They have not even exhibited any redeeming humane qualities. It’s always been their dictatorial (“for the lolz” power trip) way or the banned highway.

Except if I am not mistaken, there is a global default trust list, and @Lauda is on that list. Apparently most users are using the default trust list, because trust is not related to anything they would actively need to configure for their priority use cases.

Thus as I said, a centralized GUI presentation of the trust as red text on @kiklo’s avatar on all his posts in the Altcoin Discussion retroactively into the past.


Incorrect. Because afaik we start with a default list and have to proactively go edit out and nearly no one knows that.

The de facto trust list is centralized.


Four wrongs do not make it right, rather it is a clusterfuck.

1. Centralized de facto trust list for most users.
2. @Lauda knows this thus can abuse @kiklo.
3. @kiklo is told to accept this abuse, so he lashes out.
4. You guys have the wrong of blaming the clusterfuck on @kiklo accusing him of being a hypocrite.

Big mess all made by very poorly contemplated design of a forum system.


Well they do.

You apparently have no comprehension based in actual experience of chronic health issues and effects.

Like most things in life, until you’ve walked in the shoes of another, it is impossible to understand and judge correctly their situation.

Cover your right eye with a patch and try to function (I was blinded in my right eye in 1999). Consume enough rat poison each day to not kill you but to be so sick that you can not think clearly, have a failing liver, have delirum, headaches and barely enough energy to get out of bed. Remove all your finances and all the people who could help you, so that you are forced to work in this condition. Welcome to my life the past years. Until you’ve actually experienced this, then you can not comprehend the reality of it. Even words do not describe what it feels like day after day after day for years, with no respite.


Sorry but this is the sort of attitude from millennials that makes me want to throw them under a bus.

We can co-exist in a decentralized system where your idealistic collectivist rubric need not interfere with my self-reliant, cynical view of collectivized (group) action.


Millennials are this strange mix of idealizing the collective, while also being so sheltered and spoiled that they often do not perceive reality.

My generation X had to fight for everything (not spoiled, not sheltered), thus we do not trust the collective and do not place a high value on the collective.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-between-Generation-X-and-Millennial-Generation/answer/Anne-K.-Halsall
http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/t9p555-inflation-or-deflation#4735
(https://web.archive.org/web/20170513102106/http://goldwetrust.up-with.com/t9p555-inflation-or-deflation#4735)

Decentralizing the trust is good, but not when the GUI choice of red text is centralized:



You can not claim you have a decentralized system and that no moderation is necessary, when you have a centralized shitting on others by the fact that GUI is forced on everyone to be one way and that one way is to put really shitty read "Do not trust this person" on their avatar when posting in Altcoin Discussion.

Since I and @kiklo were posting often in Altcoin Discussion (given we are altcoin developers), we did not like the fact that Bitcoin maximalists could put a red crap on our avatar in Altcoin Discussion. We do not like the centralized shitting on altcoiners.

If you had slaved away to develop an altcoin and then some idiot could put this highly conspicuous "Do not trust this person" by default on your avatar and digital reputation/identity that everyone sees, then you also would not be happy about it and would not invest in BCT.


Agreed that sharing information about others can be a good thing, but it needs to be entirely decentralized otherwise really abhorrent centralized outcomes manifest, as explained above.

Make a post in Altcoin Discussion and see what I did to your avatar because of this centralized decision to marry decentralized ratings with a centralized choice of shitting on avatars.

I understand the reason they put the shit on the avatar in Altcoin Discussion is that they thought altcoin discussion has more scams. But then it is no longer is congruent with an unmoderated Trust system. It is just improperly contemplated centralized design.

With a decentralized interpretation of Trust, then each user would in effect enable moderation of their choice on Trust ratings. So thus those users who think @Lauda is abusing the system by complaining about the way @kiklo posts, would tend to remove @Lauda from their trusted Trust raters list. Complaining about the way people debate and discuss in a Trust system is inane. Form decentralized groups for discussion instead (except there are no features for that on BCT). I too do not like the way @kiklo uses blue text when he replies thus trying to focus the readers eyes only on his posts (@Dorky is even worse as he embeds his blue text in the quotes he is replying to which is really discombobulating and difficult to quote). He doesn't do that occasionally but nearly always when he is agitated. I would delete his posts from my moderated view (and users who follow my moderation) when they contain that blue text. He would eventually learn not to do that in threads where I am the prominent moderator trusted by most of the readers. There are decentralized ways to anneal these issues without turning the Trust system into a clusterfuck of purposes for which it is not ideally suited.

(Now I understand that @kiklo is 84 years old and has chronic back pain, so that explains why he gets so agitated when he feels someone is wrong or offended his sensibilities. If he can find a way to improve his physical quality of life, probably he will be less agitated more often. I have some empathy and understanding for aging and chronic health problems+pain)

P.S. if you get the point and need me to remove it, just ask in PM. Having you ask is to impart upon you the inefficiency and lack of individual degrees-of-freedom of the current design of it.

Oh really. Great. Check your Trust rating now.

Let’s clusterfuck.

Rules are for Nazis.

We are entering a new decentralized Knowledge Age (Inverse Commons) era in human civilization. Goodbye to fuckard Tangible Age (industrial and agricultural age) authorities and those who cling/ride on their coattails.

The trust system is unmoderated and sucks. The red crap does not show on your avatar on right side of posts, when you are not posting to Altcoin Discussion.

Just continue to limp along using the forum as is, until you have an other better alternative.

There is nothing you can do. You’ve registered your complaint but the 26 year old Theymos does not care to respond to you his 84 year old elder. Ah I see you were banned for raging against the system (even though the Trust system is supposed to be unmoderated  ). So much for consistency from 26 year olds. What can you expect from western millennials.

I hope you use the down time to get in the barbell gym. I guarantee you that stimulation of HGH via weight lifting (even if not so heavy) works wonders for holistic health of the body. It is difficult to make a lifestyle change, but it could possibly drastically increase your quality of life in your advanced years. I got back into the gym this week and I am hella sore, but really helps a lot for overall well being and ability to nonchalantly handle stress.