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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag slow-pay for 35BTC, possible fraud site on: August 26, 2015, 04:04:40 PM
After six days with zero meaningful response, they finally paid my winnings.  They may not have stiffed me in this case, but these guys are clearly amateurs to lose their minds over 3K.  I would not trust my money to this company.
2  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betcoin.ag slow-pay for 35BTC, possible stiff book on: August 26, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
Six days later they finally paid my winnings.  I can't say they are thieves but this is an amateur operation that I would discourage anyone from playing with.
3  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betcoin.ag slow-pay for 35BTC, possible stiff book on: August 25, 2015, 02:26:39 PM
Last Thursday I deposited 10BTC and won a parlay for 25BTC.  They locked out my account and haven't paid.

This site is clearly undercapitalized or outright thieves.

STAY AWAY
Can you post a screenshot of ur account is locked and post your bets and your bitcoin payments links. Why didn't you use directbet.eu?? It is the best one out there.

Regards,
Joust



The bet was a 4-team round robin parlay for 6BTC.  It settled with 3 winners + 1 push and then they locked out the account.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Betcoin.ag slow-pay for 35BTC, possible fraud site on: August 25, 2015, 02:07:04 PM
I deposited 10BTC to this site last Thursday.  My account hit a parlay for 25BTC and they locked my account.  Customer service is not responsive.
5  Economy / Gambling / Betcoin.ag slow-pay for 35BTC, possible stiff book on: August 25, 2015, 01:59:52 PM
Last Thursday I deposited 10BTC and won a parlay for 25BTC.  They locked out my account and haven't paid.

This site is clearly undercapitalized or outright thieves.

STAY AWAY
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinSports.com Betcoin.ag-LIVE-Premier League Soccer-#1 Sports, Poker Casino! on: August 25, 2015, 01:56:26 PM
I deposited 10BTC last Thursday and won a parlay for 25BTC.  They locked my account and haven't paid me.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS BOOK
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: Heritage Sports Funds for BTC on: May 06, 2013, 09:53:09 PM
Heritage is a losers-only book.  They aggressively profile and micro-manage all accounts for profitability.  If your action is welcomed there for more than a month, gambling probably isn't for you.
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetDSI.eu cash for sale on: May 06, 2013, 12:26:32 AM
FYI, anyone should be demanding a discount on his DSI $ due to their notoriously high withdrawal costs.
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Blockbet.net site closed; owes me 172.1 BTC on: May 06, 2013, 12:23:13 AM
No response from any mod to this thread or the thread in Gambling or any of the spam PMs and troll posts that have been received.

What a dumpster fire this site is, just like the entirety of the Bitcoin community.
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 29, 2013, 07:05:12 AM
I'm surprised that Blockbet was losing. I also donated a lot to him.

Were you paid on any wagers from last Saturday?
It was probably the only day that I hadn't bet with him since he started.

U run good
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 29, 2013, 02:09:30 AM
I'm surprised that Blockbet was losing. I also donated a lot to him.

Were you paid on any wagers from last Saturday?
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 28, 2013, 07:30:52 PM
blockbet isn't a scammer, he was just a bit over his and got done in by good bettors and ran out of funds. The only thing he could do was return the bets else he'd of gone under completely and probably go bankrupt and lose his home or something. Its not like you actually lost money, yet you file a scam report. If he was scammer he wouldn't have even done that.

Instead of being mad about, feel good about you actually beating a book out with uyour leet betting skillz

What a load of rubbish. When you open a sportsbook, or anything that offers a payout, then you should be ready to cover what you offer. They are still technically x bitcoins less well off than they woulda been if they had been paid out appropriately.

The fact that they refunded the bet shows decency on behalf of blockbet.net, however it still doesn't change the fact people have been cheated out of their money. Who the hell would have bet knowing that the bEST case scenario was getting their investment back, with the worst being they lose it all?

Sigh..

Blockbet.net didn't return anything on graded bets.  I placed 15 bets on Saturday totaling 150 BTC.  Net winnings were 22.1 BTC on those wagers, 172.1 BTC owed.

HE PAID ZERO, 0, NOTHING, NADA!

The 20BTC sent on Sunday was from 2 NBA futures bets which he cancelled before completion.

I was down over 100BTC betting with Blockbet.net before his theft and now over 250BTC after his theft.

This would obviously be a much smaller issue if he had simply (yet unethically) cancelled ALL wagers and returned the 150BTC that I put at risk on Saturday.
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Blockbet.net site closed; owes me 172.1 BTC on: April 28, 2013, 02:06:24 AM
Seems pretty clear that he would simply craft a new identity for his next scam.  Nevertheless, a scam tag should be added, just in case.
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 28, 2013, 02:03:37 AM
I appreciate the ignored user's idiotic trolling for keeping this thread atop the forum.
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 27, 2013, 04:21:37 AM
well the only thing left is open up an account with bet365 or betfair or any of those that will not go under on big rollers wining streaks i bet in bitcoin sites becuase i have no chioce live in the us it is fuking hard to cash out

uo can tryu anonibet they're financially backed by pinnacle so they're gonna pay out. they are a bit slow but certainly faster than normal nonbtc methods.
where did you hear that Pinny backs anonibet? I don't think this is true, it's a different post up book.

Absolutely false.  That kid is a stone moron.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 26, 2013, 03:04:42 AM
crying over a measly 170 bitcoins my sides

lol, sure, pocket change

gl OP, I'm constantly worried the same thing could happen at one of the BTC sportsbooks I have funds on.  Hopefully Pinnacle or someone else reputable opens up a BTC operation

And coming from a guy with documented, posted panty-twistage over .1 BTC bets in pre-boom February.  Sad to say he fits right in to this forum.
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 26, 2013, 02:59:43 AM
Did you read what he wrote?  He said that he has heard of people sending coins and then finding out later that they did not get the same line they thought they were betting.  This cannot happen with a post up shop.

Of course this could happen at a post-up book.  They can and have done anything they wish, with the added leverage of holding more than your stake.  Not sure why you two are so desperately attempting to defend this preposterous position.

For a given bookmaker, you're seriously arguing that you would rather he hold your money than you hold your own money?  Lulz, the full-blown Stockholm Syndrome present among sports betting ploppies never ceases to amaze.
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 26, 2013, 01:54:02 AM
I won't derail your thread - but yes, all else being equal posting up is just as safe, if not a safer model.

I've heard complaints about line changes with the guys running the 'send coins to bet xxxx' model. Send coins at one line, have it booked at another (typically worse) line.

The reason the post up model is just as safe, with a trusted bitcoin book that has automated deposits and withdrawals - is that many players post up, bet, and withdraw directly after a game. Rinse, repeat several times a day. Risk is exactly the same as the no-account model.

We're not talking about the dinosaur model of having to leave funds offshore because it's such a pain to fund.

Anyway, best of luck and please keep us updated on the situation!

Your argument is patently false and only gains any traction by ignoring the supposition "all else being equal."

Does the player gain security by adding the intermediate step of having his money held in a 3rd party account as opposed to wagering directly from his wallet?  OBVIOUSLY NOT, SOLVE BY INSPECTION!  Once again, surely you can't be so daft as to suggest otherwise.

You can say that a post-up book may effectively approximate the ad hoc approach by shifting onus to the player to request payouts after completion of each wager.  This only increases his relative risk by creating a barrier of inconvenience and tacitly grants that the post-up model is inherently less secure.

This is not an attack on your book.  (I have plenty of other things to criticize for that purpose.  Wink )  It is an argument from basic reason on a topic which is ultimately unimportant.
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 26, 2013, 12:33:51 AM
Definitely a black eye for the entire community, really hope you get paid.

There is a reason most people stick to the few established books, most of these places barely have 2 months experience let alone 2 years+

People thinking that making wagers by sending btc per bet is somehow safer than having accounts is clearly a joke. You must trust the operator period, end of story.





Thanks for the sentiment.  I've been stiffed for much more several times.  It was a likely outcome with this operator, I understood that risk.

Ceteris paribus, the Blockbet.net model is obviously safer for players than posting funds.  Surely you are not asserting otherwise.
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blockbet.net has not paid 172.1 BTC from Saturday's bets on: April 25, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
crying over a measly 170 bitcoins my sides

You trying to get on everyone's ignore list?


Henry,

I assume you PMed blockbet?  No answer?  Why did you wait a few days to come forward?  Have you opened a scam accusation thread?

I made some wagers on that last day.  The winners were paid.  I also received refunds on my NBA Series bets for the series that started on Sunday.  Maybe he paid what he could and ran out of BTC???  It seems strange that he would pay some customers and not others.

Anyone else who got stiffed needs to come forward now.  Blockbet mentioned that he was planning on pursuing other BTC related business ventures.  He needs to address this reported theft.

I PM'd him, emailed him, and sent messages via his site.  He did not respond.  You can see from his forum account that he hasn't logged on here since locking the Blockbet.net thread.  I gave him a few days to respond or settle before reporting.

I posted to the scam forum.

From my amateur sleuthing of blockexplorer, I noticed he did pay some smaller bets on Saturday.  It's pretty common in the sportsbook world to stiff only the largest players for obvious reasons.

As I said above, I'm DOWN over 100BTC betting with him.  Based on what I see of his action from the address histories, I was overwhelmingly his largest gambler.  This is absolutely not a case of him just going broke from getting beat and running away.  He flat out stole the coins.

Probably to start his exciting new Bitcoin opportunities!  Yay anonymity!
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