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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Substratum ICO Scam on: August 18, 2017, 06:23:19 PM
Substratrum has NO product they literally took screenshots of iStat Menus for Mac and Photoshopped it.

Substratum vs iStat Menus app: https://imgur.com/a/bBGKX

There is a higher resolution of their photoshopped screenshot on their website (they forgot to disable directory listings): https://substratum.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/note_tray_mac_light_zoom.png (mirror in case they delete it: http://i.imgur.com/dUsvoUO.png)

EVIDENCE:
http://i.imgur.com/m59cHeV.png
http://i.imgur.com/scNng0a.png

Someone made a reddit thread asking Why it looked the same as iStat Menus: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6u4lkv/caution_substratum_ico_rippedoff_designs_of/

When asked about it in their slack, this was their response:

“Hello tradecryptos--
Substratum is most certainly not a scam and I appreciate you saying it isn’t. The screenshots you see are actually screen captures from our MVP proof of concept running and were done by developers not designers and as most technical people know people who are great at one are not great at another so we did base our internal alpha off of iStat because at the time we were just trying to see if we could actually make the underlying structure work because that is the REALLY HARD part of this project at least since we are changing the way the internet connects.
We have brought a Design Lead on now and are TOTALLY redesigning the User Interface from the ground up so what you see in version 1 at the end of the year will look almost nothing like what you see here other than the options that you see will still be there.
Thanks for taking a look!” (screenshot of this: http://i.imgur.com/zhgLqy6.png)

THIS RESPONSE WAS MADE BEFORE THEY KNEW THAT I FOUND A HIGH RESOLUTION SCREENSHOT ON THEIR SITE AND PROVING IT IS IN FACT PHOTOSHOPPED AND NOT SIMPLY A "proof of concept running and were done by developers not designers".


Guys this ICO scam has already made off with nearly $2 million!
Also, I made this post in their ANN thread, but a mod deleted it!  Here is their ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2054963.0
2  Other / Meta / Mods deleted a reply I made in which I exposed an ICO scam on: August 18, 2017, 05:45:29 PM
Guys this is unbelievable, I posted a reply to an ICO ANN where I analyzed the "screenshot" of their product and showed that it was actually a screenshot of a popular Mac app with Photoshop applied to change it to their name, proving they have no product, even though they say it is their real app running!  Here is the topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2054963.0

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DANGER!! SCAM!!

Substratrum has NO product they literally took screenshots of iStat Menus for Mac and Photoshopped it.

Substratum vs iStat Menus app: https://imgur.com/a/bBGKX

There is a higher resolution of their photoshopped screenshot on their website (they forgot to disable directory listings): https://substratum.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/note_tray_mac_light_zoom.png (mirror in case they delete it: http://i.imgur.com/dUsvoUO.png)

EVIDENCE:
http://i.imgur.com/m59cHeV.png
http://i.imgur.com/scNng0a.png

Someone made a reddit thread asking Why it looked the same as iStat Menus: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6u4lkv/caution_substratum_ico_rippedoff_designs_of/

When asked about it in their slack, this was their response:

“Hello tradecryptos--
Substratum is most certainly not a scam and I appreciate you saying it isn’t. The screenshots you see are actually screen captures from our MVP proof of concept running and were done by developers not designers and as most technical people know people who are great at one are not great at another so we did base our internal alpha off of iStat because at the time we were just trying to see if we could actually make the underlying structure work because that is the REALLY HARD part of this project at least since we are changing the way the internet connects.
We have brought a Design Lead on now and are TOTALLY redesigning the User Interface from the ground up so what you see in version 1 at the end of the year will look almost nothing like what you see here other than the options that you see will still be there.
Thanks for taking a look!”

THIS RESPONSE WAS MADE BEFORE THEY KNEW THAT I FOUND A HIGH RESOLUTION SCREENSHOT ON THEIR SITE PROVING WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT IT IS IN FACT PHOTOSHOPPED AND NOT SIMPLY A "proof of concept running and were done by developers not designers".
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