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1  Other / Politics & Society / No time to waste - US has to act now to reverse climate change trend on: September 12, 2020, 01:10:28 PM
Today I watched a very convincing video on how the following years are crucial for the future of humanity. Scientists agree that for humanity to survive global warming without catastrophic consequences on a global level, then global warming should be limited between 1.5 to 2 degrees Celsius. Current models show that any plan to reach this goal according to current trends should be very rapid. Fossil fuels on the majority of factories and cars should be replaced within the following four years or the damage will be irreversible and global. The U.S. has the technology to do it, it's the world's biggest economy. It's time to decarbonize and lead the world once again. Are you going to stand by watching idly? I say us bitcoiners should take a stance.
2  Other / Politics & Society / Let's face it, Trump's handling of the pandemic killed private health on: September 09, 2020, 03:20:02 AM
The U.S. has become the biggest incubator for the virus as a single country. Even countries with much larger populations have a hard time surpassing it. Oddly enough the only "competitors" are Brazil and India, who are also ruled by extreme right wing presidents friendly to trump. Roll Eyes The difference in these countries is that they both had some form of socialized healthcare provided. The US right now is paying a lot of money to private and for profit hospitals to keep its population alive. Yet it's not doing all that well. The country already hit 200k deaths, so much for saving the economy when a 9/11 happens in deaths every few days. And it also turns out that a health system built for profit wouldn't do much to save your country even if shit hit the fan.

I didn't hear of one private hospital denying government cash to treat patients during this time. And what's funnier is that Trump even took a very socialist approach to providing healthcare for coronavirus patients. Basically cut a black check to whoever gets the virus and let the taxpayers worry about it int he next administration. I think that by this point even republican officials know that private healthcare makes little sense. The state pays more, people get the same or worse services, have a reduced real income as a direct effect due to how expensive and variable costs are and the system is basically never designed to handle crises. Meanwhile EU countries have the same wait times for hospitals, same wait times, better survival rates and costs are cut down very dramatically. The benefits of collective bargaining and unionizing shine in their full glory for health and medicine.

Now the biggest Grassroots campaign for the presidential race (Bernie Sanders) was talking about a fully socialized health care system. Bernie won't run again, and Biden sure as hell isn't for a fully socialized health system, but he also adopted many measures leaning more to the social side for health care. And with all the suffering Americans had to go through thanks to Trump's gross mishandling of the pandemic, it's no wonder that all nationwide polls give Biden a steady lead. If one thing changes in this election, it'll be how Americans perceive health. More people are now open to a more social system. By the next administration after this election, who knows, people might demand to make it fully socialized too.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Crypto gambling sites should be careful of bringing eSports in on: September 03, 2020, 04:37:14 AM
Crypto gambling sites are notorious for allowing players in without any ID verification.
On its own, this isn't a disadvantage. Usually local laws can be restricting. Making it more expensive to run a casino and limiting certain geographies.

But now with eSports being a rising industry, many gambling platforms are quick to jump in the trend. Trying to incorporate more games and also more tournaments into their systems.
But I see this as something that could backfire.

First of all, as it's natural, games are played by younger audiences. Perhaps the majority of the player base in most games that are popular in eSports lately are underage even.
And this is accompanied by another trend. Parents also being more comfortable with letting their kids spend on games. Games like Gortnite and PUBG mobile are notorious for earning millions via microtransactions while being free to play. Even a free Call of Duty game was released to be monetized with micro-transactions.

The trend of free to play games with micro-transactions becoming popular is also gathering increasing attention from regulators. And these discussions often also discuss gambling. There have been discussions in several countries for instance to ban lootboxes and paid chance based drops in game.
So if gambling on crypto sites also somehow becomes popular to underage people thanks to eSports.
The concern of children developing unhealthy habits already exists against the games they play. Imagine if gambling becomes more accessible to them also. Both crypto and the platforms would be to blame in the eyes of many people. And then it'd be no surprise to see regulators trying to also regulate more against crypto and gambling in general.
In my view, underage persons should have the right to own crypto. They already have the right to own cash anyway. But allowing kids to gamble has questionable ethics.
4  Other / Politics & Society / [POLL] Is bitcointalk (still) very skeptical towards global warming science? on: August 28, 2020, 08:25:09 PM
Many times matters pertaining to the environment come up in discussion here in bitcointalk, I remember seeing people that were very much in denial of the very existence of global warming and climate change as phenomena affected by human activity. Don't get me wrong, it's just my experience by reading and posting here ever since I became a member in 2013, but I think that bitcoin users are less environmentally conscious than the average techie.

But have things changed? Have people that were previously in denial perhaps reconsidered their sources? Any minds changed? I'd love to hear these stories.

First of all feel free to answer to the poll. I know that there's no reason to consider a bitcointalk poll representative of anything, but it'd be interesting to see the results nevertheless.

Disclaimer: this thread isn't about pollution. Just to be clear, the poll and thread are about climate change/global warming. While pollution can be related, let's keep the thread focused.
5  Other / Politics & Society / NIMBY vs. humanity's future on: August 25, 2020, 05:44:04 PM
Recently in my town there was a very big uproar because the municipality had signed a contract with some privates to install large scale wind turbines atop a very, very remote hill in order to create a wind farm.
Basically the group of protesters succeeded its goal to postpone the project. From both an economic and environmental standpoint this is really regressive because the alternative, fossil fuel energy production, is really polluting and also quite inefficient. Whatever percentage of energy needs could be replaced by renewable sources, it should be done IMO.

We've reached a point where breaking even (both for carbon emissions and) economically for wind farms takes around a year. So clean energy is certainly worth it. And yet, some people consider it their right to not have wind farms on the public property that is the hills visible thousands of meters away form their place of residence. Oftentimes the arguments these people will adopt is that they're trying to block the installation of renewable energy source farms to help the environment, which is just nuts if you ask me...

I think that if NIMBY style movements get more prevalent at this time, when the world is supposed to make the great leap towards green energy sources, then we're just going to accelerate climate change effects for everybody. Hopefully what happened in my town will be an exception and things will start to change for the better. What do you think? Should it be people's right to not have renewable energy farms behind their "back yard"? And is this a right worth affording to anyone if humanity's future is at stake?
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Brave browser scams 1,5k USD out of based on nationalist rhetoric on: August 13, 2020, 07:19:50 PM is a website that allows for on-demand archiving of the contents of a website. It captures sites as they would be displayed in a modern browser.
It's a useful website for keeping archives of contents that might be followed by deletion later and it's also useful for keeping an exact, verifiable copy of a website at a certain time.
The owner is anonymous and for the longest time of the website's existence didn't accept donations. Offering this service pro-bono and without even accepting acknowledgment or assistance. 

So, what does this have to do with Brave Broser?
Brave Brower is a chromium fork that integrates Basic Attention Token (BAT). The browser features a built-in ad-blocker. Users can opt in to view ads and receive rewards for this, while webmasters can opt-in to also receive rewards for the BAT-supported ads on their website. Another feature of the browser was to allow users to donate BAT that would be pledged to a website's webmaster. The inclusion of a built-in ad blocker on the browser had sparked fury upon its release, with the organization behind the browser receiving a cease and desist signer by 1200 publishers.

But what did brave do now?
The organization behind Brave browser appears to have broken their side of the contract with the owner of, embezzling roughly 1500 USD that were voluntarily contributed by users towards the website via the browser. I'll put the saga in a timeline for easier reading below. This is from the 'Ask' me Anything section of

Which was followed by one final block post publishing the email exchange between and It's too big to screencap so I'll just link it for those interested:

It seems like webmaster transferred his domains to a friend. And as a result, Brave decided to withhold that person's own funds via Uphold citing nationality.

I have some opinionated commentary on this. Basically I find it quite appalling for Brave browser to deny people their funds based on nationality. I think' webmaster puts it exactly right by calling this Aryanization. Crypto affords people the opportunity to conduct transfers of value regardless of their background, independent from government oversight, independent from restrictions from regulators and politicized payment processors... Only to then apply nationalist policy on who gets to benefit from their service? What's the point of using crypto if you're not going to allow your services users to reap its benefits? Brave acts much like a protectionist national leader. They want to participate in international trade for the sake of not missing out on its benefits, but only so that they can squeeze out the maximum benefit out of others, instead of actually giving back.

TL;DR altruistic webmaster behind free on-demand web-archive service states he can accept donations via Brave browser's feature, days later org behind Brave denies him his donations citing nationalist rhetoric.
7  Economy / Digital goods / Would anyone be interested in buying access to a well-subscribed subreddit? on: July 22, 2020, 05:23:52 AM
I'm a mod on some niche subreddits that have been experiencing daily growth.
The subreddits each yield a few thousand daily unique visitors and each user opens multiple links from a subreddit in a day. This is from Reddit's own stats so it must be reliable.

If you own (or want to build) a website that could feature relevant content (doesn't have to be original), then you could earn some passive income from advertising and viewership that the subreddit could direct to your site.
I could even provide you with a huge list of content (metadata like titles included) to re-host/embed so you'd never be in shortage.
If you have experience with being a web master this could be a quick site for you to build and access to a subreddit with good engagement could become a primary source of traffic (and revenue).
I know at least a couple of other Reddit users that earn their income this way for the last few years so it must be a reliable method.

I'm not a webmaster myself and have no experience with web development so I can't utilize this on my own.
I'd mostly be interested in an upfront offer but I'm open to proposals also.
8  Economy / Economics / EU summit: Leaders reach landmark €1.82 trillion COVID-19 recovery deal on: July 21, 2020, 05:13:03 AM
EU leaders reached a landmark €1.82 trillion COVID-19 recovery package early Tuesday morning.

It comes after days of sometimes bitter discussions over the seven year budget and recovery package which includes jointly borrowing a €750 billion recovery fund to be shared as grants and loans.
Alternative source:

Long overdue deal between EU countries for an assistance package has finally been finalized. It's a historic deal of great proportions. The compromise seems to have come in the fact that around half of the funds will be borrowed.

EU country leaders would like to project that they union is sturdy and stable, but the concession that had to be made might show otherwise. Countries that were notorious for their opposition to the deal initially had great offers made to them for their budget rebates. Essentially now, already rich northern countries that contribute little to the EU will be earning more, all over a pandemic that affected them less than the south. Just the fact that this compromise had to be made only for the deal to pass for me shows some weakness in EU's mechanisms.
9  Other / Meta / Notification on deleted threads on: July 13, 2020, 07:54:36 AM
The forum currently lacks one feature the absence of which causes a lot of confusion.
The moving of threads into the trashcan is very confusing to thread authors.

Firs of all, the trashcan is a locked board. So anything moved there, will always be inaccessible to anyone but forum staff.
Unless the mod that moved the thread decides to notify the OP, then the thread OP will have no idea of the thread being moved to the trashcan. Attempting to load up the URL simply leads to an error page without any explanation.

I can use myself as an example here, I had made a thread called Max profit in crypto sites, biggest in industry? which seems to have been deleted from the Gambling Discussion board. The only mod of the board (hilariousandco) seems to have been off the forum for a week. So it's even not obvious who moved the thread as it must have been a staff member other than the person listed as the board's mod.

I'm only using myself as an example here, I am not making this thread just so I can get an explanation for my thread. But by using a recent example I want to bring something to light.
It is very confusing to have your thread deleted and I believe the following should be addressed:
  • Receiving no notification when the thread is trashcanned.
  • No reason or explanation given.
  • Having no redirection notice (also would be helpful for those that had responded or had the thread saved).
  • Losing the contents of your thread forever.

I think the forum already has a mechanism it could utilize to fix the aforementioned issues.
When a response gets deleted (for example from a self-moderated thread, or by a mod), then immediately the response author gets his response quoted as a PM, saying that it was removed. 
Doing the same for trashcanned threads would save a lot of confusion.
10  Economy / Reputation / Red trusted casino promotes services under new account on: July 10, 2020, 01:32:42 AM back in December 2019 received valid accusations of running a rigged "provable fairness" system. Thread: is rigged | one in ten million session | fake PF

Also, it was documented that hashes weren't matching with results:
8:50 timestamp

The account wixiplay had received two DT negative trust ratings.
It's likely that they made a new account to promote their services without the negative trust appearing.
New account:

I'm not sure if the standard of provable fairness has been improved on the site. Seems like it hasn't though.
IMO DT members should at least give neutral trust to the new account until someone checks on the fairness of the site.
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Are these just signs of a very bad month for BTC scaling solutions? on: July 03, 2020, 01:19:25 PM
The most major proposals for scaling bitcoin transactions were met with major hurdles this week. Including vulnerabilities in their system, design flaws as well as overlooked weaknesses in their system.
To be specific:

Replace-By-Fee implementation caused several wallets to have a double spend vulnerability.:

The lightning network was faced with a so called "Flood & Loot" attack:

And finally, it was revealed that in the way Liquid's operates, "2-of-3 operators can steal 870 Bitcoin".

Is this indicative of failure? Many critics and naysayers would like to believe such now that so many failures happened so close to one other. But what's the whole story?
Is there hope? Will those mishaps be able to be addressed effectively or is it indicative of a trend between solutions seeking to address scaling?
12  Other / Off-topic / Some funny blockchain-related parody music I found on: July 02, 2020, 08:17:35 PM
Free to listen on bandcamp. Enjoy:

It's quite odd but very unique. It parodies blockchain related buzzwords and crypto-jargon. Sounds like a presentation to an altcoin or blockchain solution, but has a kickass metal track playing in the backround.
Obviously whoever made this has a good knowledge on crypto but didn't want to take themselves too seriously either. Too bad bandcamp doesn't take bitcoin.
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Can others compare to bitcoin's values? on: June 10, 2020, 06:39:27 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto introduced unique values to finance by applying the technology of blockchains, and creating cryptocurrency.

To name a few:
Robustness: The perk of cryptocurrency preventing third parties or any central entity from interfering with peer to peer transactions. Part of that is supposed to cryptography, and also on PoW mining being the largest computing network.
Decentralization: As the technology is able to sustain itself based on the contribution of users, no centralized parties are required and it's harder to shut down this global network.
Neutrality: No one can truly block other parties from transacting crypto for any reason.
Openness: Anyone can participate in crypto, and more participation makes the network stronger.
Trustlessness: The public ledger allows for all transactions ever to be audited. The emission of coins is predetermined and in the interest of all users of the longest chain to keep as is. So no trust in banks of governments is needed also because of this factor.

Now that we've reached a point where there are numerous competing cryptocurrencies, we could use data that's publicly available such as the public ledger, network stats, consensus algorithms etc. to compare alternatives with quantitative points.

If we set bitcoin as the base to compare to, then some issues arise. Not all coins are equal in terms of BTC's variables anymore and can't just be compared side by side.

For example, there's now PoS. How would one compare PoS's robustness next to PoW? For instance, bitcoin's cost of being 50+1% attacked is possible to be calculated.

Then, how can 'robustness' in the same sense be calculated for tokens based on a cryptocurrency? How about coins that are merge mined. Can they be considered as secure as the coin they build on?

Also, how does the security of coins that have very few full nodes (like Ethereum, which calls their ~4TB full nodes "archive nodes") compare to BTC?

There's surely more such issues that one could name. Could you find any notable ones?
14  Other / Politics & Society / Could govt legislate to keep social media neutral? on: May 30, 2020, 03:49:51 AM
Given Trump's recent executive order, I'm inspired to ask the forum's thoughts on the matter. For context:
Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship

Let's not focus on what might've been Trump's motivation for the above. I'd rather discuss if such measures are good at serving any purpose.
First of all, in the case of the U.S., such measures could find their way into higher courts and be deemed unconstitutional sooner of later. Constitutionality is a whole other discussions. But the merits of such a measure is worth debating IMO.
Really, on what merits could one bring such measures forward?
Should platforms really be forced to host content and opinions they might not agree with? Is it worth to offend the rights of a corporation over alleged censorship? One might argue that moderation on social media is much like decisions made by owners on private property. You have the right to what you do with your back yard, and by extension, you can control who enters and what behaviors are permitted. If we remove this right from owners of social media companies, then we let the government play referee on what speech is allowed instead.

Personally, I'd rather have people question the integrity of platforms they spend their time on, and rather start relying on personal filtering to create an environment they feel comfortable in, other that expecting the platform to provide for such, or trusting the government to arbitrate between platforms and politicians about what forms of speech should have a platform or not. I think a change of mindset is needed more, which might sound too idealistic at the moment, but the alternatives to social media are already out there. I'd rather just see people educating themselves on trustlessness other than expecting the government to fix freedom of speech. Govt should focus on not interfering when it comes to speech, not policing platforms.
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Crypto's utility as a payment tool on: May 27, 2020, 11:38:40 PM
How do we measure the level of utility that can be derived from using a specific payment method?
For this example let's suppose that the level of utility a payment method can offer is measured as the relationship between monetary value transacted vs. fees paid.

If we apply this to bitcoin, we can see how "efficient" it can be under certain scenarios. Minimum fees/transaction are desired.
For this example I'll set the sat/byte fee as a constant of 193 sats per byte. Amount of money (in monetary value) intended to reach the recipient can be any constant.

For a (very) standard transaction of 250 bytes, one would spend 0.0004825 BTC.
At a hypothetical price of $7.000 per BTC, the cost of the transaction would be $3.3775.
At a hypothetical price of $9.000 per BTC, the cost of the transaction would be $4.3425.
And so on...

We see that bitcoin's utility as a payment tool has an inverse correlation with bitcoin's market value.
If the market price of BTC goes up, fees for transferring the same value with bitcoin become more expensive.

My question is, can this be fixed, especially in a way that doesn't compromise decentralization and bitcoin's immutability?
And should it be fixed in your opinion?
16  Local / Altcoins (Ελληνικά) / HellenicCoin Scam - premine απάτη on: May 21, 2020, 09:56:35 AM
Το Hellenic Coin είναι ένα νόμισμα που από την κυκλοφορία του ήταν άδικο με τους χρήστες.

Στο νήμα ανακοίνωσης του νομίσματος από το 2015 χρήστης παρατηρεί πως πριν την κυκλοφορία του δημοσίως οι developers είχαν πάρει για τον εαυτό τους τουλάχιστον 2200 block. Με τον αρχικό ρυθμό κυκλοφορίας αυτό ήταν πάνω από 1.100.000 νομίσματα. Δηλαδή τουλάχιστον το 1% του νομίσματος το πήραν με άδικο τρόπο οι developers.

Από εκεί και πέρα, το νόμισμα έτρεχε για πολλά χρόνια με pool το οποίο ήταν στα χέρια των developer χωρίς pool από τρίτους. Που σημαίνει πως όλο το hashpower το έλεγχαν οι developers επίσης. Καμία αποκέντρωση δηλαδή. Πλέον φαίνεται να έχει σταματήσει η κυκλοφορία. Μετά από τόσα χρόνια άδικου mining είναι πολύ πιθανόν πως οι developers έχουν την συντριπτική πλειοψηφία των νομισμάτων στα δικά τους χέρια. Επίσης το δίκτυο φαίνεται να είναι ακόμα PoW και τελείως απροστάτευτο σε 51% επιθέσεις χωρίς κίνητρα για τους miner να το προστατεύουν.

Όταν λοιπόν λέει πως είναι αποκεντρωμένο, απλά ψεύδονται. Κανένα πλεονέκτημα της αποκέντρωσης δεν έχει νόμισμα που έχουν όλα τα νομίσματα οι developers και δεν υποστηρίζεται από miners.

Επίσης λένε πως έχουν Private blockchain. Τι σημαίνει αυτό άραγε δεν μας λένε, αλλά σίγουρα όχι αποκέντρωση.

Υπάρχουν αναφορές ότι αυτοί που έφτιαξαν το νόμισμα πρόσφατα αγόρασαν διαφημίσεις για να εξαπατήσουν κόσμο στο να το αγοράσει.
Αν λοιπόν κάποιος ήρθε σε αυτό το νήμα μετά που είδε σχετική διαφήμιση, καλωσήρθατε.
To bitcointalk είναι το ένα και μοναδικό φόρουμ που δημιουργήθηκε από τον ίδιο τον δημιουργό του bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto για συζήτηση του bitcoin. Το bitcoin είναι το πρώτο κρυπτονόμισμα και μέχρι και σήμερα το μεγαλύτερο και ισχυρότερο με κάθε μέτρο σύγκρισης. Ελπίζω να μείνετε εδώ λοιπόν αν σας ενδιαφέρει το crypto. Αλλά να ξέρετε πως το HellenicCoin είναι μια αισχρή απομίμηση και γνώμη μου είναι πως πρέπει να αποφευχθεί. παρότρυνση επένδυσης στο HellenicCoin  κατά την γνώμη μου είναι απόπειρα εξαπάτησης.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / 2009 coins on the move? Probably not Satoshi on: May 20, 2020, 05:24:39 PM
Before there's more wild speculation about where these old coins that moved came from... Let's remember that bitcoin was revealed publicly by satoshi upon release. An archive of the emails posted by satoshi can be seen here: People were in theory able to become part of the network and use bitcoin, mine and transact with equal access as satoshi himself onward from the genesis block. Especially a month in the opperation.

By some of the early participants that publicly showed interest, its obvious that one of the earliest adopters of bitcoin was Hal Finney (may he rest in peace). This is all public information verified by the record of the same mailing list.

While we can't be sure who had mined the block that went in the address 17XiVVooLcdCUCMf9s4t4jTExacxwFS5uh specifically, we also shouldn't assume that those coins were lost. For example, Hal had admitted storing keys for coins he had mined for his family.

Here's Hal on the matter:
The next I heard of Bitcoin was late 2010, when I was surprised to find that it was not only still going, bitcoins actually had monetary value. I dusted off my old wallet, and was relieved to discover that my bitcoins were still there. As the price climbed up to real money, I transferred the coins into an offline wallet, where hopefully they'll be worth something to my heirs.

Not to rush to assumptions also, there's no evidence to suggest that these coins were Hal's for sure either! Hal's online trail is just evidence that it's more realistic to expect those coins being connected to an early bitcoin enthusiast other than Satoshi himself. For all we know, it could be someone that never publicly mentioned using bitcoin too!

Edit: a typo
18  Other / Meta / alani123 merit source application on: May 19, 2020, 01:12:50 AM
Hello bitcointalkers!

I'm applying to become a merit source, and part of my motivation is that as we speak, there's a lack of encouragement for members of the public in Greece to get around knowing about bitcoin the right way. I've gotten to love this forum being a member of it since 2013. I couldn't say I got much in terms of monetary value off of bitcoin through the years, but the things I learned are priceless nevertheless. I wish more people from my country would join this forum too as I think it's one of the best ways to interact with the bitcoin community and learn about the real crypto from people that actually use it. In turn, I would like to do my part encouraging more community interaction here.

I'll get on with quoting 10 posts I see as worthy of more merit:

chek2fire is in my view, one of the most important pillars of the Greek bitcoin community. Even from my early days on this forum, I remember him trying to encourage community interaction and always doing his best to uphold principles of openness and freedom in software high. He's the admin of, one of the most impartial and always up to date Greek websites on bitcoin, running it for years without ads. Surely this post of him isn't his best one, but I think he too should be a honorary merit source for his positive work in helping bitcoin throughout the years!

Στην Ελλάδα δεν υπάρχει νόμος ή εγκύκλιος που να κάνει αναφορά για ψηφιακά νομίσματα. Έχουν ακουστεί διάφορες προσωπικές απόψεις, αλλά το σίγουρο είναι ότι δεν υπάρχει κάτι σαφές γραμμένο. Ως εκ τούτου η οποιαδήποτε αναφορά σε αυτά (άμεση ή έμμεση) σε φορολογικά στοιχεία (είτε ιδιώτη, είτε επιχείρησης) μπορεί να τύχει οποιασδήποτε ερμηνείας από τους αρμοδίους. Σχετική συζήτηση και εδώ
Στην Ελλάδα δεν υπάρχει κανονιστικό-ρυθμιστικό πλαίσιο είτε νομοθετικό είτε φορολογικό σχετικά με τα κρυπτονομίσματα. Κι αν κρίνουμε κι από τα υπόλοιπα ευρωπαϊκά κράτη (υποτίθεται πιο εξελιγμένα) που κι εκείνα είναι ανέτοιμα, θα αργήσει πολύ στη χώρα μας. Βέβαια τη τελευταία 5ετία τράβηξαν την προσοχή της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης από την οποία βλέπουμε όλο και συχνότερα ενδιαφέρον για τα cryptos και ιδιαίτερα του bitcoin του οποίου την δόξα και επιτυχία ζήλεψε η Ε.Ε. (μόνο πέρσι έκανε 3 παρεμβάσεις η Λανγκάρντ). Κι αφού το πολέμησε πολύ τα προηγούμενα χρόνια και απέτυχε, κατάλαβε πλέον ότι το μόνο που μπορεί να κάνει είναι να το αντιγράψει. Υπήρξαν λοιπόν τα τελευταία χρόνια 4 Κοινοτικές Οδηγίες και πρόσφατα η πέμπτη (AML5) που αφορά κυρίως την καταπολέμηση της νομιμοποίησης εσόδων από παράνομες δραστηριότητες, ενώ κάθε χώρα αντιμετωπίζει ως τώρα διαφορετικά τα ψηφιακά νομίσματα (ή όπως τα ονομάζει η ΕΚΤ εικονικά) με επί μέρους εσωτερικές Νομοθεσίες. Οι περισσότερες μάλιστα δεν θεωρούν τα κρυπτονομίσματα καν χρήματα (δηλ μέσο συναλλαγής) αλλά περιουσιακά στοιχεία ή επενδυτικό προϊόν και αναλόγως φορολογούνται!

Όσον αφορά στο plugin που θα μπορούσες να βάλεις στο eshop σου, ρίξε μια ματιά σε αυτό το site που πέτυχα πρόσφατα:
Here's a new member on the Greek sub-forum offering legal and practical advice on how to begin accepting BTC as a business.


Φτιάχνω ένα πρότζεκτ που θα εξηγώ στα ελληνικά πως δουλεύει το bitcoin. Θα ήθελα όμως καμιά βοήθεια που και που γιατί δεν καταλαβαίνω ορισμένες ένοιες πως θα τις μεταφράσω.

Παράδειγμα, νιώθω πως το παρακάτω δεν το εξηγώ σωστά:
Πως θα εξηγήσω στο κόσμο να καταλάβει τι είναι hash function  Sad
BlackHatCoiner here working on an educational project in Greek and asking for help on how to explain hash functions. Terminology and the technical background behind bitcoin can get quite complicated for non-technical users. However, understanding the technology in-depth is a great way to know what's the value behind bitcoin. Such content in Greek is sparse too.

Διαφωνω ακομη και σε αυτο, ειναι θεμα επιλογων. Ο συγκεκριμενος εξηγει πως γίνεται και θα σου συνιστουσα να το παρακολουθησεις και να θεσεις τα ερωτηματα σου.
Το επόμενο meetup μας θα είναι online με καλεσμένο τον Max Hillebrand, προγραμματιστή και open source entrepreneur που ασχολήθηκε με το Wasabi, Nodl, Cold Card και άλλα privacy-enhancing projects στο Bitcoin. Θα μας μιλήσει για

1) το πως ζει μόνο με Bitcoin και χωρίς τραπεζικό λογαριασμό,

2) γιατί και πως να χρησιμοποιήσουμε το CoinJoin για να αυξήσουμε την ιδιωτικότητα των Bitcoin μας και

3) τις επερχόμενες αλλαγές στο Bitcoin, όπως Taproot και Schnorr signatures, που θα αυξήσουν την ιδιωτικότητά του.

Το meetup θα είναι στα αγγλικά και το Youtube chat στα Ελληνικά και στα Αγγλικά. Οι ερωτήσεις του κοινού θα γίνουν μέσω του Youtube chat. Το Youtube link θα το αναρτήσουμε αργότερα στο

Περισσότερα για τον Max:
Για το Wasabi CoinJoin:
Βίντεο με τον Max να κόβει την κάρτα της Deutsche Bank:
There's an active community of bitcoin enthusiasts in Greece organizing IRL meetups. I don't live in a large city but I know for a fact that they've been putting some great work towards the cause. Many great personalities have joined these community organized events and I'd love to see more of that around Greece. Their presence on bitcointalk also is worth a boost in my view.

Το επόμενο meetup μας θα είναι online με καλεσμένο τον Max Hillebrand, προγραμματιστή και open source entrepreneur που ασχολήθηκε με το Wasabi, Nodl, Cold Card και άλλα privacy-enhancing projects στο Bitcoin. Θα μας μιλήσει για

1) το πως ζει μόνο με Bitcoin και χωρίς τραπεζικό λογαριασμό,

2) γιατί και πως να χρησιμοποιήσουμε το CoinJoin για να αυξήσουμε την ιδιωτικότητα των Bitcoin μας και

3) τις επερχόμενες αλλαγές στο Bitcoin, όπως Taproot και Schnorr signatures, που θα αυξήσουν την ιδιωτικότητά του.

Το meetup θα είναι στα αγγλικά και το Youtube chat στα Ελληνικά και στα Αγγλικά. Οι ερωτήσεις του κοινού θα γίνουν μέσω του Youtube chat. Το Youtube link θα το αναρτήσουμε αργότερα στο

Περισσότερα για τον Max:
Για το Wasabi CoinJoin:
Βίντεο με τον Max να κόβει την κάρτα της Deutsche Bank:
As with above, another user working to promote meetups in Greece which I consider a great cause.

Warning :
Scammer are getting more sophisticated.
Thankfully, prior to installation, I moved all my personal property information to another place.

Here is my story:
First: scammer use telegram accounts to send fraudulent messages to as many people as possible.
In message full information: website, password and secret keyword

same as the image below.

after downloading and installing, same as the image below.

If you send mbtc to another address it will say something like this,
You will never send them

For your safety I put the whole website as scammer used in the image below

Unfortunately I did not get back to the scene where the crook took control my computer.
Here a user reporting on a phishing attempt. In my view it's useful to put these on the record and I appreciate users putting in the time to do so in exposing such scams.

The whole world is now passing a crisis moment. COVID-19 has broken down the economy. It has taken many valuable lives and made the world’s medical treatment helpless. The question is,  Did COVID-19 bring any positive sign? I want to describe some points which are being possible by dint of this Culprit Corona.

A user putting down effort to denote positive events to come out of the pandemic that is covid-19 is something worthy of some merit in my eyes.

Let's see if we can get some traction for this one and bring another great person into the movement:
Author of Harry Potter books was recently asked about bitcoin on Twitter. A bitcointalker made a video to catch on the virality of this event and actually put a great effort to explain bitcoin in simple terms.

What are your thoughts? Will COVID-19 destroy the US' economy, leading to the rise of another reserve currency (especially when the US is the #1 country with coronavirus cases)? Or will the USD still thrive? Huh

My thoughts:
Not yet. Covid will pass and everything will go back to normal. But not for long. Damages made are irreversible (not only covid but also 2008 crisis mistakes and decades of current economy system) and after 1-2 years of slow bleeding things will speed-up. Leading economy (most likely China together with Russia if we will not see global military conflict before) will choose new reserve currency (and settlement currency for markets like OIL). It will free a huge amount of dollars that will flood the system and cause hyperinflation. I will buy 100 million $ and use it as wallpaper in my room.

I don't think that euro will  play any important role in future economics. I bet the eurozone will collapse just before or after the dollar.

Dude,stop preaching about things that might not happen.
The US dollar will remain a global reserve currency with or without the corona pandemic and the corona recession.The US economy is still the strongest economy in the world and the majority of the people around the world trust the US dollar,because it is a well known and stable currency.
I'm not advocating and I'm not the biggest US dollar fan,but this is the reality.The euro and the yen aren't even close to the US dollar,in terms of global usage.

The US unemployment rate

$3 trillion print:

This is close to 4% of whole world money supply printed by FED in last 2 months.

the broad money supply ($80.9 trillion).
I like analysis on real world events taking into account data metrics. Many users of this forum might get caught up in BTC price charts day in and day out, but what's going on in the world's financial markets is also of great importance. Data is sometimes also needed to dispel overly optimistic notions. When users spend time to put forward evidence supporting their claims I think it needs a little reward.

There's a "Feedback" button at bottom of "People also ask" section. I don't know whether that can be helpful or not of course.

After it was noticed that Google (indirectly) mentioned Roger Ver as CEO of bitcoin, a user promptly responded with how this could be corrected. A 30 second task worth completing by every bitcoiner to help newcomers in the space avoid confusion.

These are just 10 topics I noticed recently that could use more merit. My wish initially was to find all 10 posts from the last months within the Greek forum alone. But sadly the Greek sub-forum here isn't all that active.  wish it'd become more vibrant. Perhaps rewarding posts with some merit could help.

As of some thoughts on meriting posts. I think that the merit system is best utilized when new members also get their fair share of merit too. Currently, due to limited merit for me, I've been very conservative with how much I give and to whom. I try to limit my merit-giving to posters I think it will have more of an impact of. This tends to lead me in ignoring outstanding posts from members that have already ranked up. Such posts would also be worthy of merit if it weren't for my supply drying up so easily.

I also kinda like being a first-meriter. I feel that  being the first to merit a post draws the eyes of others keen in using the merit system, and kind of eases the feeling most people would have for the decision as to whether they should part with some of their merit points or not. Lastly, fitting responses and on-topic contributions in a topic's responses, even if small, are also deserving of some merit to me.
In short: Many posts of great quality form new users go unnoticed or under-noticed and I believe newbies especially should receive incentives for good behavior more liberally.
That's all from me for this post. Cheers to everyone!
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What's the state of Wikipedia's article on bitcoin in YOUR language? on: May 10, 2020, 09:08:14 PM
Today I was looking a the Greek wikipedia article on Wikipedia and noticed how much of a sad state it was in. Bad introduction, no good definitions from the get-go, lack of sources, spelling mistakes... Most things that could be wrong with an article were there... I created a thread in the Greek bitcointalk subforum today to ask for some advice on how that article could be improved.

In case you might not know, everyone can edit wikipedia. So anyone could help in spreading knowledge on bitcoin and improve on existing articles.
I ask you here, how does the article about bitcoin in YOUR language look like? And have you helped improved it?
20  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Βελτίωση & εμπλουτισμός crypto άρθρων στην Ελληνική Wikipedia on: May 10, 2020, 01:12:51 PM
Η Ελληνική Wikipedia είναι αρκετά πίσω σε θέματα κρυπτονομισμάτων. Γενικότερα το σύνολο λυμάτων στην Ελληνική είναι αρκετά μικρό ακόμη και σε σύγκριση χωρών με αντίστοιχο πληθυσμό της Ελλάδας.

Το πρόβλημα

Δεδομένου ότι το Bitcoin είναι τεχνολογία που λειτουργεί μέσω ίντερνετ, και με όλους και περισσότερους χρήστες και ενδιαφερόμενους στην χώρα μας, θα ήταν εύλογη να υπάρξει μια σοβαρή προσπάθεια βελτίωσης της παρούσας κατάστασης ειδικά για το crypto. Συγκεκριμένα για το άρθρο του bitcoin στα Ελληνικά, με λύπη έχω να πω πως βρίσκεται σε άσχημη κατάσταση. Θα ήθελε πολύ δουλειά για να έρθει σε επίπεδο όπως αυτό του Αγγλικού αλλά δεν είναι άπιαστο το να γίνει κάτι τέτοιο.

Για την Wikipedia
O οποιοσδήποτε μπορεί να επεξεργαστεί την Wikipedia. Είναι η μεγαλύτερη ανοιχτή εγκυκλοπέδια του κόσμου. Λοιπόν, ο κάθε οπαδός, φίλος ή ακόμη και αντίμαχος του bitcoin ή οποιασδήποτε πτυχής της σχετικής τεχνολογίας μπορεί να επεξεργαστεί τα άρθρα. Δεν είναι απαραίτητες γνώσεις ακαδημαϊκού επιπέδου. Αρκεί βέβαια οι συνεισφορές να είναι αντικειμενικές και κατά προτίμηση υποστηριζόμενες από πηγές.

Τι μπορούμε να κάνουμε;
Καθώς το πνεύμα ομαδικότητας βοηθάει στο να επιτευχθούν στόχοι, εγώ προτείνω όσοι ενδιαφερόμαστε, να οργανωθούμε με κάποιον τρόπο. Προς το παρόν υπάρχουν αρκετά σφάλματα στο ελληνικό άρθρο που έχει η Wikipedia για το bitcoin. Με ομαδική δουλειά θα μπορούσαν αυτά εύκολα να εντοπιστούν και να υπάρξει σημαντική βελτίωση με την συνεισφορά του καθένα. Υπάρχει άλλωστε και αρκετό υλικό στα Ελληνικά πλέον ώστε να στηριχθεί με παραπομπή σε πηγές ότι δουλειά γίνει.

Καλώ λοιπόν όσους ενδιαφέρονται να συνεισφέρουν. Ακόμη και αν δεν έχετε ποτέ κάνει επεξεργασία στην Wikipedia να ξέρετε πως είναι πολύ εύκολο. Μπορεί να γίνει και χωρίς λογαριασμό ακόμη (αν και έτσι εκτίθεται το IP σας). Προτείνω λοιπόν να φτιάξει όποιος ενδιαφέρεται λογαριασμό.

p.s. αν κάποιος μπορεί να προωθήσει το εγχείρημα σε υπάρχουσες Ελληνικές κοινότητες για το bitcoin θα ήταν ευπρόσδεκτο. Καλό θα ήταν να υπήρχε μια μορφή ζωντανού τσατ για έναν τέτοιο εγχείρημα οπότε αν ξέρετε που μπορεί να φιλοξενηθεί κάτι τέτοιο προτείνεται. Εγώ κάνω το ξεκίνημα από εδώ.
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