[IT's FUD TIME !]

Get your helmets on.. IT's FUD TIME !  

I was thinking of ICO's and Innovation people..

So.. considering the advent of the ICO scheme / distribution system changed everything.
We have no choice but to assume your almost unanimous opinion on ICO's means ?
You consider ICO's to be Innovative.

ICO's have been the greatest change in Crypto over the years.
It is there for accepted and recognized as legitimate and fair and within the spirit of crypto ideology.
It is there for deemed the single greatest innovation in Crypto.

I do not agree with this but i have to accept it as fact.
You all have spoken..

What i want to ask you all is HOW in gods name do you consider doing an ICO innovative ?
How is this ICO system an improvement on Bitcoin ?

You either have to say it's better.. worse or the same.
Since your actions speak loud & clear we have NO CHOICE but to assume you all think they are an improvement over Bitcoin / Mining.

..watch  

The crowd will be dead silent.. again  
Once again i put EARTH in it's place single hand-idly.
I talked to the large crowd and I pointed out the silly hypocrisy of you all here.
You won't have anything to say or any snazzy fancy retorts.. because there aren't any.

Crypto is a scammy ass fucking joke period /.

See why i am the smart one here yet ?    

PS:
Just imagine how scammy it would be if i was not here riding your ass's all the time LOL   

[Giant Hand of an Unknown Being found in Peru]

Giant Hand of an Unknown Being found in Peru

http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.ca/2017/01/giant-hand-of-unknown-being-found-in.html

When a local person and his friends were exploring the tunnels of the southern desert near their home they found a bizarre “Alien” hand which has only three long and thin fingers along with a small mummified elongated humanoid skull.

Although it is easy to call the “Alien” hand as a hoax, the artifact was seen by researcher Brian Foerster – HiddenIncatours - in person recently in Cusco Peru.

It was presented to Mr. Foerster and his team, by the local person living in Cusco, a region of Peru who does not want to sell the artifact as he simply wants to know what it is.

The “Alien” hand

X rays of the “hand” show that each of the 3 fingers has 6 bones, while a human hand has 3. Once again, as with the skull, physicians in Cusco determined that clearly this is not the hand of a human, but is made up of bone and skin. They were unable to determine what kind of life form it is, or was.

Analysis Video --> https://youtu.be/49EyifA_WrM

The “Alien” Skull

The skull was x-rayed and examined by physicians here in Cusco who stated that it clearly was not a human, but was a life form of some kind. The skull is composed of bone and skin of some sort. Plans are in the works for radiocarbon and DNA testing early in 2017 in the US.

See also our article: Alien Looking Skull Found In Desert of Peru http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.co.id/2016/11/alien-looking-skull-found-in-desert-of.html

[EDIT:]

Ok no shit people.. i went out to put some cans in my recycling bin and i seen this super fucking bright thing way up in space.

I should have went back out and got a pic but my phone has no flash and tends to not see much in the dark.

I have watched the sky a LOT people and i never seen anything like this.
I spent months a year ago watching satellites pass over head and even seen a fireball in day light once.
I seen a space station or satellite streak across coming down a few years back too.
So i have invested serious amounts of time staring up and seen it all..

What i seen was a bright pure white object fairly large ..looking like a distant star sort of.
The weird part was there was a red streak or dot right above it.
The two were so close they had to be connected / related.
There was pretty much nothing in between the two objects.
They were crystal clear in my winter night sky..
I could see the light had a minor flicker because of the atmosphere.. it was in space for sure !

It was no where near as big as the moon but bigger than any star or satellite / space station a little.

WTF ?
I have no god damn idea what the fuck it was !
I mean the red part was seriously red too and bright !
It was like a pure white star with a pure red one right above almost connected.

Not last summer but the one before i seen satellites go over my head camping every single night i looked.
I seen shooting stars and this thing did not seem to move.

I checked to see if it was Iridium satellites and there is no way that was it either.
It was probably 4 hours ago now so i prob couldn't see it now.. if i went back outside.
And it's cold i don't want wander around outside LOL

Seriously fucking weird.. i have no idea what it was.
I am leaning towards some type of man-made space object of some kind.
..but it looked like nothing i ever seen before.
OR..
A star / binary pair ? very doubtful.

NO joke guys.. hoping someone else might have seen it too here in BC, Canada.
I went on Google and i seen fuck all.

..yup a UFO    HOLY SHIT !


EDIT: added a picture i MADE up fake to show what i mean.

..yeah i was thinking of starting my own cult and i need victims members.
So who's in ?

Well, let me sweeten the pot a little

All members will get at least 6 sex-witches for their sex-dungeon !
You will also get a special surprise personally from the Legendary Spoetnik (some FUD via PM)
There will be goats !
Lots of god damn death metal to mosh around the house to.
Quite possibly girls, drugs and booze.

And on Sundays we pray !

Hey a little Satan worship never hurt anybody.. so you guys in or what ?
Come on guys, dig out them dusty ole' Pentagrams from your closet and lets do this shit !

This has come up before lots.. What do you all think ?

Do Dev's deserve a large sum of money simply for making a coin ?

There seems to be a large sense of entitlement in crypto.
Usually masked with excuses like they need the money for some "legit" reason.
For example..
V. Butters dumped 1 million dollars worth of ICO coins and it was said he had 3 more million.
How the fuck did he manage to get 4 million dollars worth of ETH coins ?
And Why did he sell them off ? We don't know.. he never did say why.

Another example..
The dev of BlockNET was asking for a million dollars in Bitcoin with his ICO.
When i asked him why he needed so much he told me "To ensure it's a success"

Like come on people how the hell is this acceptable standard practice ? WTF  

Anyway vote or comment if you want.
And by large sum i mean amounts greater than what a guy would get from a standard run of the mill coding job.
Pointing out how most do NOT become instant millionaires.
..unless they are crypto ICO coin dev's that is  

Code:

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AFTER SOME YEARS IN A DICTATORSHIP WITH A RULESET CREATED BY PEOPLE THAT AREN'T
EVEN LEADING FORCES IN THE FLAC SECTION, WE WANTED TO INFORM YOU THAT THE CURRENT
FLAC RULE SET IS NOT VALID BECAUSE NEVER DISCUSSED BY GROUPS IN A CHANNEL AND EVEN MORE 
WORSE IT BLOCKS THE FUTURE OF MUSIC RELEASING BY BANNING ALL LEGIT WEB CONTENT.

REMOVE THIS SECTION FROM YOUR AUTO-NUKE BOTS AND WAIT TILL WE ALL FOUND A SOLUTION TO 
THIS DISASTER EVERYONE MUST LIVE WITH SINCE YEARS! AS LONG THERE IS NO AGREEMENT THE RULE SET 
IS OUT OF FUNCTION! 

WHY IS THE RULE SET NOT LEGIT?!

1. Rules get created by groups that are supplying a section since years and responsible
   for the content you all benefit from.

2. Our common understanding of a legit rule set is that a so-called "COUNCiL" gets formed
   out by leaders of the most active groups in a section to control the quality and create
   the standards for future releases. 

SUMMARY:

Nothing of the above happens here. They just pop up created by ONE person and few people met at
site rings. Groups were forced to follow them and signed them without the chance to change them!!!

No invitation into a channel to discuss the rule set, sign and release them as it is common in 
all other sections we developed TOGETHER over the past years.

IN THIS CASE THATS THE WAY HOW ALL THE GROUPS SIGNED THE RULES (PROOF):

<XXX> when will actually get the new rules ?
<XXXX-XXX> theyre ready
<XXXX-XXX> waiting on other council ppl to vote (NOTE: WHAT COUNCIL?!)
<XXXX-XXX> 3 ppl need to vote
<XXX> question just because it's already some time ago
<XXXX-XXX> encoder changed
<XXX> new flac?
<XXXX-XXX> its going to be 1.3.1
<XXX> oh ok
<XXXX-XXX> pls dl http://xxx/file.html < new updated flac rules > and vote asap

EVEN IF YOU DENIED THE SIGNING THEY SCREW IT OUT WITH PEOPLE'S FEAR OF NUKING FUTURE RELEASES!
NO DISCUSSION ABOUT TYPO'S AND ANYTHING POSSIBLE! JUST SIGN OR DIE!

That means those rules are not legit in any way! YES! THEY ARE NOT LEGIT!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[WEB AND PROMO FORBIDDEN BY RULES]:

The worst thing the rule set blocks WEB / PROMO releases what is total nonsense because most
artists and labels switched to digital distribution only. GET A BRAIN! We missing tons of
originals, promos etc. Instead, people archiving and releasing degraded MP3 sound files cut by some 
digital sound engine called LAME (PSY/GPSYCHO).

Advantages of WEB FLAC:

* 24 Bit/96 kHz and more possible! (MP3 can't handle this bitrates)
* NO DIFFERENCE to the retail product. There is just no physical medium anymore!
* Double of data in a .flac file beside .mp3 (IT'S THE ORIGINAL CONTENT CREATED IN THE STUDIO)
* Enough legit webshops, 100% digital labels around that releasing wav and/or .flac files!
* You CAN BUY WEB flac at legit stores instead hacking google.play and autopre stuff! 
  That is no excuse to forbid all WEB content.

- So what is THE TRUTH about the current rule set? -

It got created by old suspecious farts that built a decent network of nuke systems implemented to servers.

As we all know the whole scene suffers from this individuals in the meantime because
they not doing their job probably. They are not around to check dupes and prevent double
uploads or checking the content, instead, they creating rules in meantime all sites and sections must follow. 
Doesn't matter how stupid they are! (E.G. MP3COUNCIL VS RIAA NUKEWAR). There is no reason to nuke actual improved LAME
versions with the newest GPSYCHO/PSY engine. 

The worst thing is that those individuals created decent siterings and a database with all scene sites listed.
 
YES SITERINGS AND A BIG SITE DATABASE!

Something FORBIDDEN back in time for security reasons! If one big ring is infiltrated and 
busted, a whole part of the scene is shut down! GREAT! AGAIN GET A BRAIN! Or imagine this database(s) get leaked!?
WTF!

To hide their missing operating system skills and understanding of Linux, programming
languages and everything you need to secure a server probably they even invented an
IP-banning system that forcing couriers and groups to drop all sites that are
rented / colocation or with setups not common for their understanding.
This, of course, leads to nothing instead losing friends!  

Homelinks that producing terabytes of traffic every month are the riskiest way to run
a scene site because this amount of traffic is not normal for an end-user. We all can remember
busts in .SE BBB back in time or not?

FINAL:

As long all the bigger and smaller active FLAC GROUPS not discussing their rules in a
channel, this ruleset is just some master control program by networks not doing any real release work 
for the scene.

[WE ARE NOT HERE TO SUPPORT WAREZ SELLING IN ANY WAY, FUCK YOUR P2P, SLOT SELLING SHIT AND GET A JOB INSTEAD!]

ALL THE FLAC NUKES ARE FAKE INSTEAD DUPES AND ALL GROUP STATISTICS ARE USELESS!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So i made a comment on Disqus saying i refused to get any shots since i was a kid..
It got me thinking.. what do MOST people think ? Yes or No ?

With out getting into why and the obligatory conspiracies i suspect there is negative effects and i am prone to getting them with medical stuff.

Anyone else refuse to get them too ?
I have got some i think twice as a little kid but i am 41 now and won't let them stick needles in me.

Obviously the risk is a major FLU attack that could potentially kill me.
And i do recognize i may be putting the public at danger by being an easier carrier of the FLU.

Any thoughts ? Vote on Poll ?

I voted Maybe depending on the person.
Some people may get a lot of negative side effects etc.
So if you don't or don't care then i would vote yes.. otherwise NO.

It's simple, ANON Coins violate Anti-Money Laundering Laws in countries like the USA.

http://www.coindesk.com/localbitcoins-users-criminal-charges-florida/

That shows us a couple years back some guys were arrested by the FBI in a parking lot for selling Bitcoin.
Why ?
They sold over $10,000 worth of BTC with out proper ID and info etc.
(Which is why all the exchanges take your ID and have limits like they do)

So what does this mean ?

Your shitty ass little anon coin will never get major adoption.. EVER !

Enjoy being Bag Holders  

[White Power Milk]

White Power Milk

www.whitepowermilk.com

[ICO]

All the ICO topics need to be moved to the scam section now.

If i hear the word "ICO" one more time i am gonna lose my shit !

It's true  

There seems to be some illusion around here that it can happen "one day".
I have provided plenty of reasons why before here..

More importantly i firmly believe the outside world has so far and will in the future agree with me.
And it is THEM that matters.. not me or the other crypto-nerds loitering around here for ROI's.

So..
If you want your currency to get used across the globe i suggest you avoid the scammy sketchy ICO crap.
Or accept your coin's fate.. being relegated to a niche thing or worse a Poloniex ROI "token". (for profits)

[Innovation.]

So here is your official list of the years most used shitcoin excuses / defense retorts.


- #1 - Innovation.

- #2 - ?

- #3 - People NEED and want ANON features.

- #4 - It's a better currency because it's Fungible.

- #5 - It's the Silver. (implying Bitcoin is the Gold)

- #6 - Community.

- #7 - It's Beta.

- #8 - You are Jealous of ma ROI'z !!!11ONE

- #9 - You are a Bitcoin Maximalist.

- #10 - You are a Troll FUD'ing.


..more to come so stay tuned  

[Source]

Just passing it along..

Source = Re: [FRAUD] LEOcoin scam making demonstrably fraudulent claims to con general public

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Rawalpindi has initiated an inquiry against UNAICO Pakistan Pvt Ltd on a report by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) regarding the alleged suspicious transactions (STR) in the accounts of the company.
Initial verification of relevant record has revealed that the company, registered with the SECP, was allegedly involved in the illegal business of MLM (multi-level marketing) by enticing the general public for investments.
The company was running a ponzy scheme.
Earlier, the SECP had issued a public warning through the national dailies requesting the general public to refrain from investing in UNAICO or involving in any transaction with the same.
The warning had clearly notified the general public that the company’s business was illegal and not authorised by the SECP. NAB Rawalpindi has started a full-fledged inquiry and in the initial phase has frozen all bank accounts of the company and its director, Atif Kamran.
There are three bank accounts in the name of the company and relevant banks have been advised not to entertain any transaction in the said accounts till further orders. The NAB has placed Kamran’s name on the ECL. NAB Rawalpindi is in the process of contacting all members/investors of the company to approach.
The NAB Rawalpindi has to verify their claims and record their statements for legal action against M/s UNICO Pakistan Limited RPPs Case. NAB is in the process of reconciliation based on the available material collected/recorded during examination of the accused persons alleged in the case and hoped to finalise its inquiry within a week. During the process, NAB may call the accused persons already heard for further grilling if need be. The bureau has received commitments from various RPPs to return the defrauded amount in the days to come.

Atif Kamran with Mr Anderrsoon

Now this is not trolling is it?

It is a fact and it happened.

So let's see if it gets deleted......

ps: you guys were even on yahoo finance: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-alternative-pyramid-scheme-storm-125726660.html

[ONE]

What would it take for us all to get together and support ONE digital currency ?

I wonder if you all have any ideas for our fractured sub-communities.

The way this all works right now is by requiring fresh blood to keep pouring in here.
Which in my view we are losing the battle with that.
And the more coins that come out the more we get stranded users trapped forever as bag-holders.

For 2017 i'd like to see us look past the 35 cents change profit on the table.
..and innovate.

Bitcoin is approaching 8 years old.. almost a decade.
If you all wanted to get an Altcoin established you had time to do it already.

Can we get our ducks in line ?
Or will we waffle along as big name companies swoop in and seize the opportunity we are squandering ?

Try and defend these various projects but at the end of the day it boils down to ADOPTION.
And it seems to me adoption takes a back seat to all your Poloniex shitcoin ROI's.

Want to move forward and make real progress ?
Every single one of us will have to make massive compromises and sacrifices.
Such as ? dropping support on a coin that has no realistic future.

If you are not moving forward then you are moving backwards people !

[Money for Nothing Inside the Federal Reserve]

I need to remind people that if you do not know about "currencies"
Then you should invest some time into learning about them.

I would advise finding and watching this documentary..
Money for Nothing Inside the Federal Reserve - Jim Bruce 2013

If you can watch that and not see the parallels between Altcoins i would be shocked.

Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve is an independent feature-length American documentary about the Federal Reserve written and directed by Jim Bruce, and narrated by Liev Schreiber. It examines 100 years of the Federal Reserve's history, and discusses its actions and repercussions the US economy leading to the late-2000s financial crisis. Bruce believes "a more fully and accurately informed public will promote greater accountability and more effective policies from our central bank".[1] The film features interviews with Paul Volcker and Janet Yellen as well as current and former Federal Reserve officials, top economists, financial historians, famous investors, and traders who provide insight on the Federal Reserve System.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_for_Nothing:_Inside_the_Federal_Reserve
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2752724/

I got this video a couple years back in 2013 from File Sharing sites.
It seems to be on Youtube right now but i did not verify it.

So i hope you all get the point here.
This is about CURRENCIES.

Know what Quantitative-Easing means ?
Get it ? We all should be knowledgeable in at least the basics of what a currency is
AND THE HISTORY OF THEM.. so we don't repeat the same bad behavior.

There is no Crypto Regulations ..hell there is not even a rule banning Scams here.
Nor is there a Federal Reserve waiting to hand you all Bail-Out packages when you fuck this shit up.

https://www.neowin.net/news/vanity-fair-writer-suffers-epileptic-fit-after-being-sent-targeted-strobe-tweet

Guy gets a Tweet with a flashing gif designed to give him a seizure.
He said he got one and wants to sue for assault.

So i am curious do you think that is assault ?
I sure as hell don't..

What if you had a condition where you were prone to sneezing and i fired some pepper in the air in a restaurant a little knowing it would probably start making you sneeze ? Assault ?

Guy's just being a bloody puss 

[Smog grounds flights]

I just seen a news story i want to pass along..

Smog grounds flights

Source = http://www.castanet.net/news/World/184037/Smog-grounds-flights

(Spoetnik's Kelowna home town news web-site)

Thick, grey smog fell over Beijing on Tuesday, choking China's capital in a haze that spurred authorities to cancel flights and close some highways in emergency measures to cut down on air pollution.

Beijing and much of industrial northern China are in the midst of a "red alert," the highest level in China's four-tiered pollution warning system. The red alert affected 460 million people, according to Greenpeace East Asia, which calculated that about 200 million people were living in areas that had experienced levels of air pollution more than 10 times above the guideline set by the World Health Organization.

Members of the public closely watch levels of PM2.5, particles measuring 2.5 microns across that are easily inhaled and damage lung tissue. The World Health Organization designates the safe level for the tiny, poisonous particles at 25 micrograms per cubic meter. On Tuesday morning, the PM2.5 reading in Beijing climbed above 300. In many northern Chinese cities, the reading has exceeded 500 micrograms per cubic meter.

State media reported that 169 flights have been cancelled at Beijing Capital International Airport, where visibility fell at one point to 300 metres (984 feet). Sections of Beijing's sixth ring road, the outermost highway encircling the city of more than 20 million people, were shut down in a bid to keep cars off the roads.

Authorities have even removed charcoal grills from restaurants and banned spray painting in parts of the city, state media reported.

China has long faced some of the worst air pollution in the world, blamed on its reliance of coal for energy and factory production, as well as a surplus of older, less efficient cars on its roads. Beijing and other cities have tried to improve air quality by switching power plants from coal to natural gas and rolling out fleets of electric buses and taxis.

But despite its public commitment to reduce carbon emissions, China remains the world's largest producer and consumer of coal, with plans to build new factories and increase production. Government officials, facing rising energy prices earlier this year, lifted caps on production days for many mines.

Since the red alert went into effect, more than 700 companies stopped production in Beijing and traffic police were restricting drivers by monitoring their license plate numbers. Dozens of cities closed schools and took other emergency measures.

"The smog has serious repercussions on the lungs and the respiratory system, and it also influences the health of future generations, so under a red alert, it is safer to stay at home rather than go to school," said Li Jingren, a 15-year-old high school student in Beijing, on Monday.

In nearby Tianjin, authorities cancelled 350 flights and closed all highways in the municipality. Public transportation services were increased as restrictions on cars were imposed.

Authorities in the northern province of Hebei ordered coal and cement plants to temporarily shut down or reduce production. Elsewhere, hospitals prepared teams of doctors to handle an expected surge in cases of pollution-related illnesses.

"If you are tracking back to the first day of this episode, you can see that the layer of the smog (in Beijing) is moving slowly from the south to the urban area in Beijing and then to the north," said Dong Liansai, a climate campaigner with Greenpeace in Beijing. "You can easily find the large deployment (of smog) in the regions south of Beijing."

On Sunday, news websites said the number of children being taken to Beijing hospitals with breathing trouble soared. Photos showed waiting rooms crowded with parents carrying children who wore face masks.

The alert is expected to end Wednesday.

WOW HOLY FUCK !

I knew it was getting bad but damn it's getting silly over there 

[Express]

I just heard about a coin coming out called 'Express'
It will be launched via POW mining and have features designed to make it more compliant with law enforcement / anti-money laundering related laws.

A key feature that caught my interest is that the consortium of dev's / contributors
decided they will request a ban of all major coin exchange platforms.
I take it this is to prevent the focus of the coin from being diverted..
AND ..to attract crypto currency supporters and not greedy profiteers who plan on dumping for ROI'z later.

So i figured you all might find this interesting and i am curious if you will take part in the birth of this new currency ..even though it will not be traded on Poloniex or Bittrex etc for profits.

(and would the exchanges respect the request ?)

What i see as the big problem with Crypto Currencies is Money.
Ironic ? LOL

I am posting this because i'd like to see us as a giant think tank of sorts for the future of money.

How do we do this crap ?
Well you can all see it's rooted in the bags "investors" are holding.
Most commentary is tainted and skewed to favor each investors personal agenda.

Which means you will not get any honest commentary.. or real innovation or useful discussion.
The only time this ever happens here is when a bag holder wants to prop up his forum account with some integrity or attack another coin to further the other coin they are supporting.

It amounts to a little bit of talk.. and not much more.
At the and of the day we have the same old same old.. the same crypto greed game year in and year out.

When i joined this stuff i had no idea what a key part Morality played in it all.
It was a learning process i had to figure it out as fast as possible.
And i do not expect everyone to be on the same page with it all either.
It takes time ..i know it was all a lot to soak in and read about when i came here.

Plus morality i think is likely to be a thing with age.
An older person is more likely to be legit than a teen who doesn't give a shit.

So rather than posting yet another topic here asking you all..
"What features do you want in ANOTHER coin"

I want to ask you all, how can we improve the situation ?

Morality is the major barrier.

For example a while back i seen an older user here (kelsey) i always agree with who mentioned some idea about removing the concept of removing the reward from hashing on a block chain.
I don't know how kelsey's idea worked at all but i am curious and would like to hear more.

Is there a better way or are we stuck doing it with the carrot on a stick approach ?
I always envisioned something like all the hashing computers used in tandem to do nominated scientific projects.. sort of like Prime Coin.
For a reward of course.
A monetary currency fueled by our greed essentially.

Think of my idea as a Grid Coin.
Where users hashing maybe vote for a major University project that will get "funded" with all of Earth's computers to tackle a scientific problem.
Then when voted-in the entire planets computing power is put to a good use crunching numbers for a scientific problem.

And this type of concept is the future.
More and more we are needing massive amounts of computing power for scientific research.
It could be for curing a disease or for calculating the impact of an Asteroid coming at us.
Or simply for trying to figure out what and how Dark Energy or Dark Matter works.

vs. hashing away for no reason at all (wasting electricity)

But the barrier is money (greed)
And it's obvious when you read topics at Bitcointalk.org.
The greedy have seized the reigns of crypto.
Can i convince the greedy that a constructive and useful agenda will provide them profits later ?

Positive and constructive things breed money and success.
Really it boils down to Kevin Coster playing baseball saying if we build it they will come.

So any ideas or thoughts on the matter people ?

[Bitcoin]

So i have a few questions..

If ANON was needed so badly why did the dev's not submit the idea to the Bitcoin core dev's foundation etc ?
Was it because they knew it would be rejected ?

Seems to me i am not the only one who has rejected this anon coin idea huh ?
Otherwise BTC would have anon code in it already mirroring what Monero is doing.

I love how they patronize everyone and say it's needed.. but the entire Bitcoin world rejects them.
Not just .. Spoetnik 

Instead they felt the need to create a NEW coin and tack on ANON features..
Rather than trying to get the ANON code integrated into BTC.

Hmm i wonder why ? Any idea why people ?
Why is it they would want to start a new coin ? hmmmm ? Maybe Risto can answer he bought LOTS of them and controls the coin.

Yeah.. the guy with the Pink Bentley who lives in a castle.

So what do we see bottom line ?
Want Morono's ? well guess what ? you need to buy them.. with Bitcoin 
Yup.. Bitcoin hahahhahahah

AND ...

You can line up at Poloniex the official shitcoin exchange for them to buy them clutching your picture ID.

So Profiteers.. do you see through this retarded little facade ?