Someone please help, I just found out my paypal account has been disband because I was selling miners on ebay. This is complete bs because i shipped everything and got good feedback on all my transactions! now Paypal is holding close to 6k of my money and won't release it for 180 days!!! wtf??? is there anything I can do to fight this?
This is the email they sent me.
For the safety and security of the PayPal network, we often review accounts for potential risks. After reviewing your account, we have decided to close it because of security issues.
We are making every effort to minimize any disruption to your business.
If your PayPal account balance is zero, and you have no unresolved buyer complaints or chargebacks, your account will remain limited.
Disbursement options
Option 1. If you owe refunds to any of your buyers, you can use the money in your PayPal account to refund them.
To refund your buyers: 1. Log in to your PayPal account. 2. Click "Contact Us" at the bottom of any page. 3. Click "Contact Customer Service." 4. Under "Choose a Topic," select "Sending/Receiving Money." 5. Under "Choose a Subtopic," select "Refund/Cancel a Payment." 6. Click "Continue" and follow the instructions to refund payments.
Option 2. Money in your PayPal account will be held for 180 days. After 180 days, we'll email you information on how to receive your funds.
We regret any inconvenience this may cause.
Thanks,
PayPal

If anyone has this happened to them, can you pm me and tell me if you were able to get your fund back?

So Josh from BFL just posted this on the forum, just wanted to let you guys know what he thinks of us...

Josh:

I'm sorry that you feel deceived. I have never replied to anyone on Facebook to speak of, so I don't know what you're referring to, perhaps if you can provide a link?

Please stop lying about the forum moderation. The only time posts are "cleaned" is when they are redundant, trolls or spammy. There are plenty of negative posts on the forum and anyone with any ounce of integrity would already know that and admit the fact that these forums are not censored beyond removing the most useless or trollish posts. If your post was removed it was because it held absolutely no value and did not belong on the forums. If you want your posts to remain, you have to post like an adult and not a kid throwing a tantrum, which many of your posts are. I'm sorry that you feel the BFL forums are too mature for you, but if you want to act like a child please go to Bitcointalk... that is the playground for people acting like animals, not here.

How is "Two months or more" false? It was true then and it's true now.

I have always given honest estimates of when I think we will be done, however there are so many variables and unexpected issues that crop up that they ARE JUST ESTIMATES. I can either not give estimates or give estimates, there is no other option. I can't give you exact dates because I do not KNOW exact dates, that's why they are called estimates. If you take an estimate as a hard date, that is on you and I'm sorry you feel deceived because of it. But I can do nothing more than give you an estimate, which is an estimate, not a hard date.

Here is the link to the post.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/5525-really-necessary-2.html

Apparently, BFL forum is for "matured" people

My order for a minirig from BFL got splitted up into 8 singles and I want to get rid of them. They should be coming in the next couple of weeks, went into production in the BFL websites. If anyone is interested in buying one of these or the whole thing, send me a message or respond. Can do either paypal and btc (discount if using btc). looking to sell around ~1500 for each of them. Serious buyer only please

So, stupid me just got scammed on Ebay. I just want to put this out for everyone to save people from making the same mistake as I did. I knew it was too good to be true and I should have listened to my own advice.

The Ebayer name is ykourakis89
He/She is selling a 60 Gh/s BFL on ebay. It may look legit, but beware! he only accept bitcoins and once you send him the money, he'll stop responding and contacting you. This is a link to his ebay account.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/ykourakis89
The picture may be a girl, but on the invoice, it's a guy....
Sent him 1.7 btc so that he would initiate the transfer order through BFL lab, but once I did that, he stopped contacting. Definitely going to try to report him on ebay, but i don't think it'll have much luck with the whole bitcoin thing. THIS IS A MAJOR FLAW of BtC in my opinion (I acknowledged it was dumb of me to not use escrow in the first place..)
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/c8e68f3c0bf28275ec7ab75c90804258b7ee44bfc2bcbe7175cabb5bc502d80e
proof of transaction.

Also, I just found that through a listing of his (he put up a Radeon on both Ebay and Bitcoin talk) that he is indeed thedarkdad3
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=148368
So a member of the bitcoin community is scamming people for bitcoins. just perfect... this is why bitcoin will never become mainstream because there's too much way for people to get scam.
(Start from the bottom)

Dear ykourakis89,

OMG!!! nooo, I already sent the transaction. You can't seriously tell me that now after demanding me to transfer the btc. wow, I can't believe I just got scammed again... are you kidding me???.... I already sent the money
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/c8e68f3c0bf28275ec7ab75c90804258b7ee44bfc2bcbe7175cabb5bc502d80e
It's already been confirmed.

- long.tran


From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-30-13 17:59:40 PDT

Dear long.tran,

Actually wait make sure it's this one
1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v

- ykourakis89

Dear ykourakis89,

Hey....

Anything yet? The transaction has already been confirmed...

- long.tran

From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 22:06:39 PDT

Dear long.tran,

Ok, I can do that.

- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 21:06:56 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

You're pretty clear and I understand your concern about getting scammed and that's why I asked if you want to use btcescrow, because that's pretty safe service. The whole bitcoin community uses it, you do know that, it protects both the buyer and the seller and the transaction gets processed extremely quick. There is no refund, once i said the transfer is done then the transaction is finished. I can't get a refund!
I know you don't want to get scam, but look at it from my point of view, I don't want to get scammed either. You're expecting me to take all the risk and pay the total in BTC upfront, would you do that?
I have a proposal, how about i give you 1.4 BTC (a deposit, half upfront) and you initiate the transfer on BFL. Just initiate, it doesn't complete till you accept it back. Then once you initiate and i see that you do have an order, then I will transfer another .7 BTC (1/4) and once the transfer is complete, i'll give you the rest. That way, you will have most of the money upfront. Does that sound fair?
If you agree, I ask that you offer the BFL to me on ebay and i'll accept it, but once its done, you can cancel the order and you won't have to pay the final value fee.

- long.tran


From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 20:59:19 PDT

Dear long.tran,

Again, thanks for your time. I am not sure how much more clear I have to be here .
***************************************************************************************************************
Dear long.tran,

You're joking right? "i file claim" yeah the guy sent me an empty box//yeah the guy sent me bricks" paypal reviews case BUYER WINS MONEY BACK and item. I lose.

If you wanna send BTC we can proceed I think I gave you my cell already.

Wallet Address
1Q1PBbK2b9tx4T8K7LvXeiczEced4SE6yK

ESCROW IS SAME EXACT THING. Ill pass. You have my wallet, take as long as you need to think about it I am in no rush.


- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 20:11:54 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

Would you be willing to use an escrow service? btcescrow?
we can split the fees 50/50

- long.tran


From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-23-13 23:22:31 PDT

Dear long.tran,

You're joking right? "i file claim" yeah the guy sent me an empty box//yeah the guy sent me bricks" paypal reviews case BUYER WINS MONEY BACK and item. I lose.

If you wanna send BTC we can proceed I think I gave you my cell already.

Wallet Address
1Q1PBbK2b9tx4T8K7LvXeiczEced4SE6yK

- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-23-13 19:33:53 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

why not paypal? Then both of us are protected.

- long.tran



If you feel sad for me, donate: 1QHTvfTzRNWWGcLakghSdSUytK9kpAmeBX

So, stupid me just got scammed on Ebay. I just want to put this out for everyone to save people from making the same mistake as I did. I knew it was too good to be true and I should have listened to my own advice.

The Ebayer name is ykourakis89
He/She is selling a 60 Gh/s BFL on ebay. It may look legit, but beware! he only accept bitcoins and once you send him the money, he'll stop responding and contacting you. This is a link to his ebay account.
http://www.ebay.com/usr/ykourakis89
The picture may be a girl, but on the invoice, it's a guy....
Sent him 1.7 btc so that he would initiate the transfer order through BFL lab, but once I did that, he stopped contacting. Definitely going to try to report him on ebay, but i don't think it'll have much luck with the whole bitcoin thing. THIS IS A MAJOR FLAW of BtC in my opinion (I acknowledged it was dumb of me to not use escrow in the first place..)
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/c8e68f3c0bf28275ec7ab75c90804258b7ee44bfc2bcbe7175cabb5bc502d80e
proof of transaction.



From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 22:06:39 PDT

Dear long.tran,

Ok, I can do that.

- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 21:06:56 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

You're pretty clear and I understand your concern about getting scammed and that's why I asked if you want to use btcescrow, because that's pretty safe service. The whole bitcoin community uses it, you do know that, it protects both the buyer and the seller and the transaction gets processed extremely quick. There is no refund, once i said the transfer is done then the transaction is finished. I can't get a refund!
I know you don't want to get scam, but look at it from my point of view, I don't want to get scammed either. You're expecting me to take all the risk and pay the total in BTC upfront, would you do that?
I have a proposal, how about i give you 1.4 BTC (a deposit, half upfront) and you initiate the transfer on BFL. Just initiate, it doesn't complete till you accept it back. Then once you initiate and i see that you do have an order, then I will transfer another .7 BTC (1/4) and once the transfer is complete, i'll give you the rest. That way, you will have most of the money upfront. Does that sound fair?
If you agree, I ask that you offer the BFL to me on ebay and i'll accept it, but once its done, you can cancel the order and you won't have to pay the final value fee.

- long.tran


From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 20:59:19 PDT

Dear long.tran,

Again, thanks for your time. I am not sure how much more clear I have to be here .
***************************************************************************************************************
Dear long.tran,

You're joking right? "i file claim" yeah the guy sent me an empty box//yeah the guy sent me bricks" paypal reviews case BUYER WINS MONEY BACK and item. I lose.

If you wanna send BTC we can proceed I think I gave you my cell already.

Wallet Address
1Q1PBbK2b9tx4T8K7LvXeiczEced4SE6yK

ESCROW IS SAME EXACT THING. Ill pass. You have my wallet, take as long as you need to think about it I am in no rush.


- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-25-13 20:11:54 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

Would you be willing to use an escrow service? btcescrow?
we can split the fees 50/50

- long.tran


From: ykourakis89
To: long.tran
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-23-13 23:22:31 PDT

Dear long.tran,

You're joking right? "i file claim" yeah the guy sent me an empty box//yeah the guy sent me bricks" paypal reviews case BUYER WINS MONEY BACK and item. I lose.

If you wanna send BTC we can proceed I think I gave you my cell already.

Wallet Address
1Q1PBbK2b9tx4T8K7LvXeiczEced4SE6yK

- ykourakis89


From: long.tran
To: ykourakis89
Subject: Re: long.tran has sent a message
Sent Date: Sep-23-13 19:33:53 PDT

Dear ykourakis89,

why not paypal? Then both of us are protected.

- long.tran



If you feel sad for me, donate: 1QHTvfTzRNWWGcLakghSdSUytK9kpAmeBX