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21  Economy / Speculation / HOW LOW WILL WE GO! on: April 05, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
Again its looking really bad. With the chinese exchanges about to shutdown
a huge amount of money will leave the market. IRS regulations and a lot of stolen and hacked coins
that might be sold wont help to give new investors trust to invest into the market.
And the only thing that could help to uphold the price at these levels are huge multimillion dollar investors.
Old money sellin and buyin lower wont help to bring the price up, this will just create a short bull trap, and as we have seen these have become a lot weaker in the last weeks. Its more like a deadly downards spiral,
especially when maybe 30-50% (maybe more) of the money is about to leave the market.
22  Economy / Speculation / HUOBI SHUTS DOWN April 5th. on: April 03, 2014, 12:54:12 PM
http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=286

关于4.15事件,火币网得到的消息以及处理方案

时间:2014年04月03日 17:58:49 来源: 火币网
尊敬的火币网用户:

     关于网上盛传的4.15事件,火币网一直在积极努力的与相关部门沟通,遗憾的是截至到目前,我们并没有得到具体的信息,也无法给所有投资者一个准确的答案,深表歉意。

           而在昨日,国内多家比特币交易平台相继发表公告表示接到通知,将暂停点卡充值或者银行转账充值。 同时我们也在微博以及其他渠道看到,很多投资者以及媒体朋友都非常关注火币网这边的最新动态,首先我们非常感谢所有朋友对火币网的关注与支持,然后我们就火币网商务及财务部门在资金通道上获取到的最新信息(截至2014.4.3 16:00)做一个详细的汇报:

           火币网商务以及财务部的同事今天和点卡销售商以及合作的各家银行进行了电话沟通,相关情况如下:

           一、点卡销售商:
           1)合作的四家第三方支付公司中,有一家电话提示风险,其他三家暂时没有反馈问题;
           2)提示风险的第三方支付公司表示,并没有收到新的通知,向点卡销售商提示风险是因为被举报,领导要求严格执行去年12月5日人行五部委发布的《关于防范比特币风险》通知。
 
           二、银行:
           1)目前工、农、建、招四大行的火币网开户支行在最近3个月均未接到相关通知;
           2)对于4月15日的说法他们也都是从媒体上得到的;
           3)目前他们均无法判断这个消息的真实性。

           以上均为火币网方面收集到的当前信息,这些信息均是第一手,并且只是客观描述,不做任何推论和猜测。火币网得到的信息和其他已经发布公告的平台获得的信息不完全一致,可能是因为地域以及服务商不同造成的,至于为什么不同地域不同服务商会有不同的政策,不得而知。

           基于以上信息,考虑到目前行业政策的不明朗,经过与点卡销售商的协商,火币网定于2014年4月5日0点正式关闭点卡充值。同时,火币网银行转账充值服务提升为7*24小时人工处理,确保用户快捷充值。此外,火币网人民币提现业务不受影响,比特币、莱特币充值提现不受影响。

           最后,火币网郑重声明:

           因为目前国内的行业政策不明朗,比特币行情波动较大,用户都极度希望能获得自己期望的信息。做空的用户希望平台发出的信息都是利空,一旦发利好就会迎来骂声不断;反过来也是。对此,火币网声明:火币网从来不代表多、空任何一方的利益,发布公告或信息都是提前、公开、客观,并且经得起时间的考验,请广大用户监督。

           附:中国人民银行等五部委发布《关于防范比特币风险的通知》


        火币网运营部
        客服电话:4000-600-888


Distinguished fire coin network users:
About online rumors "4.15" incident, fire-coin network has been active in efforts to communicate with relevant departments, it is regrettable that so far, we have no specific information, nor will give investors an accurate answer, apologize.
Yesterday, several coins trading platforms have issued a short notice that there would be no point recharge card or bank transfer. We also saw in the Twitter and other sources, a lot of coin investors and our friends in the media are very concerned about the fire side of network news, first of all, we would like to thank all our friends to fire attention and support of the network of currency, then we fire-coin network business and the finance sector in funding channel access to the latest information (as 2014.4.3 16:00) made a detailed report on:
Fire-coin network colleagues in the business and Finance Department today and point card distributors and cooperation conducted phone banks, related as follows:
A, point card distributors: 1) four third party payment companies to cooperate, there's a phone tip risk, the other three for the time being there is no feedback issues; 2) prompted the risk of third party payment companies, has not received a new notification, made to the point card distributors risk because of being reported, led calls for strict execution on December 5 last year, five ministries and commissions release the notice of the risk on the prevention of the bitcoin.
Second, the Bank: 1) industry, agriculture, construction, four lines of fire money net branch to open an account in the last 3 months are not receiving notifications; 2) for April 15, saying they were obtained from the media; 3) they were unable to determine the authenticity of the message.
Coin above the fire gathered by the network of current information, this information is first-hand, and is an objective description, does not make any inference and speculation. Fire CAD information network platform information and other announcements are not exactly the same, may be caused by differences in geographical as well as service providers, as to why different regions with different service providers may have different policies, is not known.
Based on the above information, taking into account the uncertainty of current industry policies, after consultation with the point card distributors, fire-coin network will be officially closed on April 5, 2014, at 0 o'clock card. At the same time, currency net bank transfer charge of fire service is 7*24 hours manual processing, make sure that the user fast recharge. In addition, the coin of fire net withdrawal of RMB business is not affected, bitcoin recharge, Leyte currency are not affected.
Finally, the coin of fire NET declares:
Because the domestic industry policy uncertainty, bitcoin trading volatile, users are desperately hoping to get their desired information. Users want platform for short message is bad, once good will usher in scolding the sound or vice versa. In this regard, the coin of fire NET Disclaimer: coin of fire NET, air never represented more than the interests of any party, announcement or information are ahead, open, objective and stand the test of time, the majority of users monitoring.
23  Economy / Speculation / China BANNED BITCOIN! This time for real! on: March 27, 2014, 11:39:54 PM
ITS OFFICIAL CHINA BANNED BITCOIN!
IT WAS A NICE EXPERIMENT WHILE IT LASTED!
GOODBYE

Frozen bank accounts
http://epaper.yicai.com:81/site1/html/2014-03/28/content_206827.htm

央行禁止银行为
比特币交易提供服务

吴敏

  去年年底,央行曾接连出招防范比特币风险,而最新的消息显示,监管的车轮仍在向前。  

  知情人士告诉《第一财经日报》,近日,央行已经下发文件要求银行和第三方支付机构关闭多家境内比特币平台的交易账户。

  上述知情人士还透露,不久前,央行还曾召集过会议商讨如何进一步加强防范比特币的风险,会上曾提到过禁止商业银行为比特币交易提供服务。

  如果文件真有其事,公司的银行账户可能就会被封掉,我们也只能走一步算一步了。如果用户信任我们,也许会采取个人账户汇款的方式。比特币中国副总裁凌亢在接受《第一财经日报》采访时说。

  不过,也有业内人士怀疑这样的政策是否真的具有可实施性。火币网联合创始人杜均对《第一财经日报》说:维持现在的状态,银行的流水都是可以查到的,我们的账户也都是实名制的,如果监管机构要我们履行反洗钱义务,我们都是可以把数据、流水拉出看的。但如果把公司的银行账户关掉,那所有的交易不都转到地下了吗?这样监管的难度就更高了。而且现在距离最后期限已经只剩20天了,我们还没有收到消息,这样对用户会不会太不公平?

  杜均的担忧不无道理,一些业内人士也表示这次文件的下发路径有些蹊跷,不少跟此类业务相关的机构和人士均表示未收到上述文件。

  我们的网站目前运行正常,没有收到相关消息。比特币交易网站OKCoin创始人徐明星在接受《第一财经日报》采访时说。据OKCoin交易网站上人民币充值的提示,该网站目前有银行卡汇款和点卡充值两种方式。银行卡汇款既可以通过网银的汇款功能直接实现也可以去银行柜台办理汇款业务,共有13家大型银行在OKCoin可办理汇款的银行之列,收款人则是北京乐酷达网络科技有限公司,汇款经过人工确认后人民币将充值到个人账户。

  而OKCoin的点卡充值则是通过第三方支付向一个名为Coin265的游戏点卡充值平台充值购买点数,相应的点数则可在站内购买包括比特币在内的各类虚拟货币,点卡充值的好处则在于即时到账。目前OKCoin网站规定,银行卡汇款仅支持1000元以上汇款,1000元以下汇款则需要使用点卡充值。为其提供第三方支付业务的机构则包括汇潮支付有限公司等。

  去年年底,央行曾约谈十余家第三方支付公司相关负责人,明确要求其不得给比特币、莱特币(LTC)等交易网站提供支付与清算业务;并且规定对于已经发生业务的支付机构应解除合作,存量款最迟在春节前完成提现,不得发生新的支付业务。在此背景之下,不少比特币交易网站都开始寻求新的充值方式,用类似点卡充值的形式搭桥接入,既规避了第三方支付与比特币的直接接触,又能够实现快速充值。

  实际上,这种连接比特币交易网站和充值页面的桥就只做一件事情,就是卖点卡。并没有什么其他实际的业务。某家比特币交易网站的负责人告诉《第一财经日报》,他所在的交易网站也采用了同样的方式,而不管通过第三方支付购买的是所谓的游戏点数还是游戏币,都是换汤不换药,最终的目的都是购买比特币或者其他虚拟货币。

  至于封锁银行汇款充值途径会否成为比特币交易的障碍,业内人士则表示,首先要看政策执行的力度,其次则要看比特币交易平台是否还能想出类似搭桥的应对招数。不过相关消息显然已经开始影响到了比特币的价格,截至昨晚9时记者发稿时,BTCC上的比特币价格已下跌近10%至每个3300元。
24  Economy / Speculation / What is going on on Bitstamp? on: February 15, 2014, 07:32:55 PM
https://www.bitstamp.net/risk-warning/

Any conjectures??

"Risk warning

The trading of goods and products, real or virtual, as well as virtual currencies involves significant risk. Prices can and do fluctuate on any given day. Due to such price fluctuations, you may increase or lose value in your assets at any given moment. Any currency - virtual or not - may be subject to large swings in value and may even become worthless. There is an inherent risk that losses will occur as a result of buying, selling or trading anything on a market.

Bitcoin trading also has special risks not generally shared with official currencies or goods or commodities in a market. Unlike most currencies, which are backed by governments or other legal entities, or by commodities such as gold or silver, Bitcoin is a unique kind of "fiat" currency, backed by technology and trust. There is no central bank that can take corrective measure to protect the value of Bitcoins in a crisis or issue more currency.

Instead, Bitcoin is an as-yet autonomous and largely unregulated worldwide system of currency firms and individuals. Traders put their trust in a digital, decentralized and partially anonymous system that relies on peer-to-peer networking and cryptography to maintain its integrity.

Bitcoin trading is probably susceptible to irrational (or rational) bubbles or loss of confidence, which could collapse demand relative to supply. For example, confidence might collapse in Bitcoin because of unexpected changes imposed by the software developers or others, a government crackdown, the creation of superior competing alternative currencies, or a deflationary or inflationary spiral. Confidence might also collapse because of technical problems: if the anonymity of the system is compromised, if money is lost or stolen, or if hackers or governments are able to prevent any transactions from settling.

There may be additional risks that we have not foreseen or identified in our Terms of Use.

You should carefully assess whether your financial situation and tolerance for risk is suitable for buying, selling or trading Bitcoins.

We use our banking providers in order to receive client moneys and making payments. Our banking providers DO NOT transfer Bitcoins, exchange Bitcoins, or provide any services in connection with Bitcoins."2
25  Economy / Speculation / Legit TA is legit TA! on: February 15, 2014, 07:01:16 PM

u all know what happened a few days ago when MA 3d crossed.




this time its EMA 3d and it will be way worse




the moon is about to come real close!!!


26  Economy / Speculation / OH MY GOD! on: February 13, 2014, 11:40:32 PM
IT IS OFFICIAL NEW 3 MONTHS LOW ON THE MAJOR BITCOIN EXCHANGE. BOTS WILL GO CRAZY!!!!!!!!!
ALSO THIS, JUST UPDATED. WILL YOU STILL DENY???











27  Economy / Speculation / BTC will go below 155$ in the next 3,5 months! on: February 11, 2014, 11:00:59 AM
I just created this thread to be bumped in the future, so that you all can worship the almighty fonz for his predictions.

Confirmed Reason for this:









SHORT/SELL

28  Economy / Speculation / Holy Shit - Look what i just found in the Interwebs on: February 06, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
THIS! IT`S HAPPENING!






29  Economy / Speculation / How much longer will Mt.Gox exist before theyre out of business? on: January 26, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
How much longer will Mt.Gox exist before theyre out of business?
30  Economy / Speculation / How low will we go in the upcoming crash? on: January 25, 2014, 06:48:06 PM
How low will we go in the upcoming crash?

Its pretty clear that there is only one direction left right now V .
Where do you expect the bottom?
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