https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ftx-launches-bitcoin-pairs-top-093007591.html

I've always found it very strange why so few people have tried to pair crypto trading with stock trading. Looks like the stocks here, and there are only a few of the most obvious ones, are tokenised and you can also trade fractions of them too.

No idea who this lot are but they've partnered with established names to facilitate this. Americans aren't welcome of course.

www.luno.com/blog/en/post/introducing-the-luno-btc-savings-wallet

Luno were bought by Barry Silbert's crew a short while back and it looks like they've tied this in with their big willy lending to traders. I still don't get how they manage a consistent return considering how useless most traders are, even the fancy ones, but there you go.

Are you tempted by 4% a year? I am not. This does state that you're opening yourself up to counterparty default and there's got to be plenty of them at some point.

It seems slightly hard to find an official announcement on this but people are posting emails from Kraken to them telling them that Dash, ZEC and XMR won't be tradeable for Australian residents after today.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/ij8xir/kraken_to_stop_deposits_and_trading_for_dash_xmr/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ij54zr/kraken_ceasing_trading_in_monero_for_australian/

Do we reckon this is their banking partners or something from government?

In the UK there's talk of raising capital gains to be in line with income tax to pay for our virus holidays. For a large amount of profit in Bitcoin and friends that would mean an increase from 20% to 45%.

https://archive.is/VJrzY

There's a good chance of it not happening as it'll outrage the government's rich friends but if it does 45% would be way too much and I'd look seriously at relocating as there's not much keeping me here anyway. 20% I can absolutely live with. Over double and I'm going to get serious about shopping elsewhere.

Do you have a limit to your tolerance or would you stay put no matter what rates they threw at you? I expect many other countries will be looking at low hanging fruit too.

https://fortune.com/2020/08/27/bitcoin-mining-dcg-foundry-north-america-btc/

Barry Silbert made an announcement of an announcement yesterday. Guess this is it.

From reading this I didn't realise Bitmain's plans to mine in Texas had gone up in smoke. Hope this lot have done their sums.

I thought it would be interesting to have a thread collating info regarding the heavyweight players entering Bitcoinland as I expect it to be a trend that's going to ramp up rapidly and these things often get lost in the noise.

Here's one to get the ball rolling - https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2020/08/26/fidelity-president-files-for-new-bitcoin-fund

Fidelity have just filed for a new fund dedicated to Bitcoin. Few details as of yet but the train is clearly considering leaving the station.

What have you spotted out there?

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gold-staying-clean

This is an interesting one about gold's walled garden and the potential of something similar being applied to bitcoin.

In days gone by I would've immediately pooh poohed it, but with the ever increasing amount of  professional money and its use of custody, which means their bitcoin is already tucked away and thumbsed up, it seems like the type of thing they'd be very interested in investigating.

Is the wider market too powerful and dynamic and would this one be too stunted for it ever to work?

We've heard tales of virgin coin premiums from miners. An entirely 'safe' market may have quite the appeal. Obviously gold has its own problems which this market rose to deal with. Bitcoin doesn't have those problems but there are still those willing to pay for a seal of approval.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200811005331/en/MicroStrategy-Adopts-Bitcoin-Primary-Treasury-Reserve-Asset

NASDAQ listed Microstrategy have bought 21,000 or so BTC.

“This investment reflects our belief that Bitcoin, as the world’s most widely-adopted cryptocurrency, is a dependable store of value and an attractive investment asset with more long-term appreciation potential than holding cash. Since its inception over a decade ago, Bitcoin has emerged as a significant addition to the global financial system, with characteristics that are useful to both individuals and institutions. MicroStrategy has recognized Bitcoin as a legitimate investment asset that can be superior to cash and accordingly has made Bitcoin the principal holding in its treasury reserve strategy.”

I'll be interested to see how many other stories of this nature pop into our consciousness in the coming months and years. I'll bet a fair few others are quietly building positions still.

Despite a denial a short while back Crypto.com's debit card has been suspended for Europeans as it got caught up in all the Wirecard problems.

They're talking about finding a replacement but that's probably easier said than done.

Wirecard supplies to others as well but I can't recall who they are.

That didn't last long.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2020/06/25/legendary-investor-jim-rogers-warns-governments-will-have-to-eliminate-bitcoin/#31e92da5584a

Classic old school doom mixed with profound misunderstanding for your morning wank on the toilet.

I enjoy this line particularly - "Controllable electronic money will survive, and virtual currencies beyond the influence of the government will be erased."

So they will erase something beyond their influence. Coolio.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-07/paul-tudor-jones-buys-bitcoin-says-he-s-reminded-of-gold-in-70s

Of course we've heard plenty of people of this ilk makes noises in the past and having a dabble, what's significant about this are his reasons why he did this. It's nothing much to do with woolly goals or being cheerful about the tech. It's a direct response from a hardened fund manager to US fiscal fun and the general future of money.


'Macro investor Paul Tudor Jones is buying Bitcoin as a hedge against the inflation he sees coming from central bank money-printing, telling clients it reminds him of the role gold played in the 1970s. “The best profit-maximizing strategy is to own the fastest horse,” Jones, the founder and chief executive officer of Tudor Investment Corp., said in a market outlook note he entitled ‘The Great Monetary Inflation.’ “If I am forced to forecast, my bet is it will be Bitcoin.”'

'Jones first dabbled in Bitcoin in 2017, doubling his money before exiting the trade near its peak at almost $20,000. This time, he said he evaluated Bitcoin as a store of value and decided it passes the test based on four characteristics: purchasing power, trustworthiness, liquidity and portability. “I am not a hard-money nor a crypto nut,” he wrote. “The most compelling argument for owning Bitcoin is the coming digitization of currency everywhere, accelerated by Covid-19.”'

 
I'm guessing he may just be involved in futures rather than physical ownership but all the same do you think other heavyweights will take this as permission to stop dancing around the fringes and actually embrace it?

According to Brian Coinbase it seems a few have already decided to let the US government pick up their BTC bill. Will you be doing the same?



https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1250907110730170370

If that's not your thing there is an even worthier alternative here - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8226305/Controversial-Louisiana-pastor-wants-people-donate-stimulus-checks.html

https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1235314764219322371

Thread here - https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1235309368918388736

Now we know how much Brian Armstrong dislikes Bitcoin. Despite it being the very foundation of everything he's built he still can't bring himself to say many or any complimentary things about it.

Do you reckon he has the slightest point or is it the hopeless ramblings of someone who wants you buy as many shitcoins off him as possible and wees himself in the face of the one project immune to his power?

As far as I can tell every single other potential contender is a broken joke in some way and every day that doesn't introduce something 'better' makes it less likely. There are still a lot of things to address but nothing else appears to understand that you can't do that unless the underlying foundations respect the principles on which it's built.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-05/this-utility-heats-new-york-state-and-mines-its-own-bitcoin

I wonder whether something like this will become more prevalent. There may come a time where miners are pushed out by the power companies themselves, or be contracted by them to take up residence in a back room.

Either for your own amusement or for your unborn clones?

Do you diligently save sites, videos, discussions and previous software versions just in case they disappear from the internet for future reference? Is there actually any type of dedicated crypto archive out there? I'm not sure I can think of anything.

No matter what happens to the entire scene the impact it has made will be studied for centuries. I wonder how much information will be available to the curious in the years to come.

Here's the only snippet I ever bothered with. It took several hours of waiting but was a moment well worth preserving if only for my wank bank. 

This phrase is everywhere and on other trading sites it's often the go to reference for the Bitcoin price.

I could read about this but since you're all so sympathetic to my Trump-style cognitive decline you will do a better job explaining it.

What is it and why do many believe it's now the number one price controller?

I occasionally browse the first posts of longtime users. Sometimes I recognise them. Sometimes they've morphed into something completely different. Some of those who started off sunny and inquisitive have wound up frosty and elitist.

From looking at me I seem to be rather consistent. I'm annoyed by the same stuff. I'm interested in the same stuff. Maybe that points to stable genius or just a dulled mind forever frozen in adolescence.

Have you been consistent throughout, become a better person, or become mad and embittered? Have you noticed others undergo radical personality changes over time? Do your old posts shock you or would you write the same things today?

Accounts changing owner don't count of course.

I find it weird how people here seem to fixate on the same old clapped out fuckholes run by nobodies but rarely talk about some of the major services out there.

Cash App is one of them. It's backed by a tech titan. Its ethics tend to align with the less evil end of things and it's there waiting to be loaded on your phone.

They're now talking about limit orders and recurring purchases.

https://cryptocult.co/2019/12/29/cash-app-thinking-of-adding-limit-orders-recurring-purchases-and-gifting-to-bitcoin/

Has anyone been tempted away from their usual exchanges by this?

Now I don't mean feeling generally sad, I'm sure everyone would, I'm interested to hear how entwined this forum is in your life and activities.

There must be more than a few people who run businesses through here, plenty sig away, many will be in groups or syndicates for mining, gambling etc.

There's also the fact that this joint is a huge point of reference too. If down the line someone questions the source of an alt or sig campaign funds that started here people can point to the thread where they signed up along with an address to prove they were present.

Would it cause you any proper difficulty or would you simply sigh and keep on trucking elsewhere unimpeded?

https://www.coindesk.com/binance-blockade-of-wasabi-wallet-could-point-to-a-crypto-crack-up

I've often wondered whether clearly mixed coins would be considered 'hot' and in this case at least it seems they do.

Do you think they'll be heading towards an unworkable dead end with this or it's the start of something others will try to emulate?