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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Does anyone have a list of historical ICO Returns? on: February 07, 2017, 08:06:12 PM
I for the life of me can't find a simple list of day one investment returns.  (Day one meaning if you put in 1 btc - like in the case of ethereum you'd have 2000 ETH and 2000 ETC)...

I'd be almost as happy if someone also had a list of first day prices of the various ICOs - I can extrapolate from there if need be.
2  Economy / Reputation / Giving credit where credit is do - Vlad2Vlad on: February 08, 2016, 08:27:12 PM
There's lots of posts about scams and scammers out there... This is the opposite  situation and I want to give some credit.

Paul Vlad - Vlad2Vlad and I made a bet, over Skype, with no contact for $2,000.  Not a tiny amount of money.  I won the bet.  Paul, to his immense credit paid me $1,000 already and is sending me the rest in ten days.

To his immense credit - Vlad made the payment in foul.   I'd trust him anything,

There's mad sketch people in the space.  Paul is, really, a good, honest, and honorable guy.

Thanks man.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Does anyone know who the real first retailer to accept bitcoin? on: June 23, 2015, 02:14:57 PM
Aside from SR.

It wasn't wordpress was it?

4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Auction for Charlie Shrem's double robotics robot on: April 05, 2015, 08:27:01 PM
I know that eBay links are not always favored here - but I'm hoping we can make an exception since this is to benefit Charlie.

All net proceeds will goto Charlie's commissary and his Amazon wish list.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / [scammer alert] Shetkid / Zanien and "tomato btc" on skype on: December 01, 2014, 04:27:50 AM;u=346591

This guy tried to run a fast one pretending to use tomatocage's nme on skype as an escrow.

Easy to see through, tried to get me to accept word from "tomato btc" that he'd sent a wire and tried to get me to send 30 btc...

6  Economy / Lending / Very short term, fully btc collateralize usd loan (13k) on: November 26, 2014, 04:10:20 PM
How much interest would someone want for a $13,000 loan against 30 btc for two weeks with escrow?
7  Bitcoin / Legal / My Response to the Bit License pending legislation - submitted today on: October 22, 2014, 01:48:53 AM
Jacob Louis Dienelt
Co-Founder, Executive Vice President
--- W -- Street, Apartment --
New York, NY, -----

Tuesday, October 21, 2014

Mr. Benjamin M. Lawsky
Superintendent of Financial Services
New York Department of Financial Services
One State Street, New York, NY 10004-1511

Mr. Dana V. Syracuse
Office of General Counsel
New York State Department of Financial Services
One State Street, New York, NY 10004
Tel: (212) 709-1663

Re: Regulation of the Conduct of Virtual Currency Businesses – Addition of Part 200 to Title 23 NYCRR

Dear Mr. Lawsky and Mr. Syracuse:

Thank you for the opportunity to respond to the proposed regulations governing virtual currency businesses; and for your time, dedication, and efforts in understanding and helping shape the regulatory landscape for bitcoin and other digital currencies and payment rail technologies.   I applaud your efforts, I would like to 1) highlight an area of concern that may have a negative impact to my small business, and other similar businesses, in this market and 2) ask a question to help me better understand the meanings and implications of the proposed Bit License legislation.

To provide context: my company, Lazzerbee, Corp, makes paper bitcoin wallet products, which include greeting cards, themed for different holidays and life events, as well as business cards that contain private keys allowing people to place small amounts of bitcoin on their business cards.  Lazzerbee has no interaction with bitcoin itself, although we accept bitcoin as payment, via bitpay.

An example of our offering is our “Merry Christmas” paper wallet that customers load with their own bitcoins and provide as a gift, for the holidays.  Other examples of our product can be seen at

I believe our product offerings operate outside of the scope of the proposed legislation since we never interact for our customers in virtual currencies.  I hope this position is correct and would appreciate your view on this topic.  Assuming it is correct, it may be appropriate to make that fact explicit in the regulations.

Finally, and perhaps the most important; I have a question that relates, more broadly, to the future of digital currencies and payment rails.

This question has to do with Section 200.2, page 5, section (m) which states:

(m) Virtual Currency means any type of digital unit that is used as a medium of exchange or a form of digitally stored value or that is incorporated into payment system technology. Virtual Currency shall be broadly construed to include digital units of exchange that (i) have a centralized repository or administrator; (ii) are decentralized and have no centralized repository or administrator; or (iii) may be created or obtained by computing or manufacturing effort. Virtual Currency shall not be construed to include digital units that are used solely within online gaming platforms with no market or application outside of those gaming platforms, nor shall Virtual Currency be construed to include digital units that are used exclusively as part of a customer affinity or rewards program, and can be applied solely as payment for purchases with the issuer and/or other designated merchants, but cannot be converted into, or redeemed for, Fiat Currency;

The majority of digital assets trading today are bitcoins, and altcoins.  At the same time, there is growing momentum for other platforms, such as Ripple, and Counterparty that can support other asset classes such as real estate assets, crypto-equity units, crypto-bonds, and, in fact, normal bonds and common stocks. (Think treasuries and shares of Apple.)  

My question is whether, if Bit License is passed in its current form, New York State will view any asset traded on these rails as “virtual currencies”?  If so, is the position of the DFS that defining these assets as such would supersede current SEC, CFTC, FINRA, and SIPC rules and regulations?  If this were the case, would the DFS be prepared to contest a contrary ruling from a different regulatory body?  Would DFS consider equity and bond offerings issued not through traditional methods, but via these new “crypto networks” under the perview solely of the DFS?

Our company is small, but I believe we are vibrant business innovators. I would very much like to hear your response to these questions.  Again, let me express my gratitude for you and your office for taking this first, bold, and needed step in this area of innovation.


Jacob L Dienelt
Lazzerbee, Corp
Executive Vice President
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Informal guesses: How much fiat has been put into coins, net... on: September 24, 2014, 03:43:40 PM
I am working on a research paper, just for funzies, and I need to get a base line guess on how much money (read fiat) has been converted into bitcoins and altcoins, net.  It doesn't need to be scientific, or even accurate really - I just would like to hear what people think.

To be clear, this isn't money invested in mining, VC money in businesses, or trading volumes in daily trade... I am looking or a number, net number, or how much fiat has been put into coins, that is it.

Any guesses?
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Real coin - proof of burn concept on: August 13, 2014, 01:07:04 PM
So I want to start an exchange for real real coin based on a real coin proof of burn. You get two real real coins, which are not backed by anything other then twigs for every real coin you burn... but $2 worth of twigs.  Do you think department of treasury will have a problem with us burning real coins?

10  Other / Politics & Society / Banning gay men from giving blood is stupid on: August 12, 2014, 07:20:07 PM
I mean, come on, "Are a man who has had sex with another man since 1977, even once"

Really?  I mean, I know my blood is clean.  As opposed to every straight friend I have, I get my blood tested for disease, every few months.  As does my magnanimous partner. 

11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Brock Pierce's new concept --- on: July 12, 2014, 08:06:28 PM
Hey guys, I mean this out of all due respect, really.  I have met, and hung out with Brock - he is a cool guy.

Instead of all the direct references to Mighty Ducks and First Kid...

Let's call it "Mighty Buck Coin"

Get it, like Mighty Ducks - but as an homage.

Like my dog who I named Bernanke.  (Really I think Ben was great (Really))
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Selling Maidsafe Coin - 95k on: June 08, 2014, 09:27:57 PM
Anyone want to buy maidsafe coins?  Looking for $0.017
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Urgent accommodations for bitcoin 2014 in Amsterdam on: May 14, 2014, 01:26:09 PM
Hey - I am not sure if this is really the right place for this topic, but it's pretty urgent so I thought I'd just post here and cross my fingers.

My airbnb just canceled on me for the conference this weekend.  I have one person arriving today, and three tomorrow.  Anyone know of good accommodations?  Don't really want to spend much more then 1,000 USD or the equivalent in BTC. 

Anything someone can suggest would be greatly appreciated.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Does no one else think Doge is a great 48-72 hour trade on: May 02, 2014, 01:47:04 PM
I mean, shouldn't we see a pop on the NASCAR race?  I'm not talking about a double here or anything, but doesn't 5-10% make sense?
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Anyone want to sell me 450k Doge for .5 BTC? on: May 01, 2014, 06:28:17 PM
Looking for a quick trade.
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Anyone with a bloomberg terminal - VCCY <go> on: April 30, 2014, 01:33:09 PM
Not sure if this is a repost, but it's huge news!

EDIT - Bloomberg terminals will now display bitcoin pricing. 

17  Economy / Lending / Nevermind on: April 22, 2014, 02:38:35 PM
Nevermind - Fund's cleared, loan not needed.  Please delete.
18  Economy / Securities / Danny Brewster is at Inside Bitcoin in NY? on: April 08, 2014, 01:08:18 PM

I am surprised, didn't expect that one!
19  Economy / Currency exchange / WTS - BTC Put Options on: April 03, 2014, 01:52:03 PM
Not sure if this is possible, or even the correct section of the forum, but would anyone here be interested in buying p2p put options on btc?

I am interested in writing the options.
20  Bitcoin / Legal / Most important thing from IRS ruling on BTC on: March 25, 2014, 06:36:33 PM
If bitcoin is a property and not a currency, it means that holders will not have to pay mark to market gains on unrealized profits at the end of each tax year.   

This is a really big deal. 
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