removed
and moved.

so by January 1st. all pc parts -minus laptops and certain accessories- will go up in price in the usa. by25%
im saying this will set off a ripple effect as people buy less, and profits to be made, prices will go up. i am also betting that the 25% hit will increase many electronics and parts upwards of 40% post before we start seeing a rebound and possibly more. this however will be short term as people are gonna buyout supplies inlue of the tarrif as we see with intel shorts.

the dubious nvidia and there horrific price scaling only keeps our 10series stronger in price longer for the uninformed.

i'm seeing that once january hits and all our video cards are 25% or more. all thes jokers selling shit on ebay for stupid cheap are gonna be in for an awakening . that is of coarse that nvidia doesn' trick a zillion gpus out there ass. these new turing ones take time it seems and thats good to short shit but who knows.

as 10 series gets a phase and demand gets low.  not sure where im going but i got a feeling we will see a skyrocket of prices  to happen in gpus again and it may just be better riding it out vs panic selling them. this is of coarse your heart is in the market going vert. if it doesn't, then sell faster then ever. but as it seems. if we get a bull. Holiday is approaching.we may see a value of our gpus go back up.

opinions?



i mean them 4800/7900 series amds from wtf way back when gains value due to the market soar. i got a feeling if that happens again 10 series the same.

Did anyone get their creditcards charged from NVIDIA yet?

im worried my order is bunk.


i just ordered the 3 link sli rtx adapter and the price is coming up on my bank but my 2080ti order still has not been charged.

Nvidia website. Im in the USA.

Our 1060's retaining value. actually all cards have some sort of value still due to the next series being up there.

1080ti's are gonna be bargain prices soon. 500ish. maybe depending on 2070. can knock it down to 400ish and 1070 to 200ish after release in oct.

hashrate no one knows.

difficulty is getting outrageous.

Looking at bitcoin price. i don't see it dropping below 6k, for more then hours.

i think someone made a point and will forever buy at 6k price, and just keeping at that level. i mean people in china pledging millions to bitcoin, are obviously not buying them at anything more then 7.

so as difficulty goes more and more insane. price will slowly rise.
im thinking 7-8k by years end as min. if we follow difficulty. some charts saying 10k. but conservative 8k. and next year who knows. new tech might rocket difficulty, but from what im reading not possible, as tech isn't there yet.(bitcoin that is)

ignoring the market booms. which this holiday will no doubt have like usual. maybe sooner maybe later. its a mix bag. next wave sell half buy in cheaper wait for next mountain. it's deff a hold and wait game.

keeping price down is actually a good thing.

the more and more expensive it gets. more centralized it becomes. so this stagnation is good for others to get in. almost like a warning . this is fucking gun ready to explode. or just ooze lava .


what people need to understand is. doesn't matter what your mining. Save your money for your elec bills. if you mining top 5 top 8 coin, when he next waves of bitcoins bukakke over alt coins again, and the whales do there fucking magic money tricks., we'll all be rich. just hold on, and mine what ever is cheaper then buying out right and be happy.
when price goes up to wtf levels, then you mine and sell. thats the thing people need to learn next wave. mine and sell expect the crash always. but in the mean time. this is mine and hold. buy and hold.

hoping i can use all those new ai cores on the RTX cards to ACTUALLY have real purpose. from the tech demo this guy saying that the ai chips basically can fucking create you a game by commands. i mean like wtf with such ease.. turning 2d images to full 3d with detail because of the deeplearning chip and ai working co-op. like wtf !?
i'm wondering if mining dives and literally dies. all these ai chips on our cards gonna be some shit worth looking at if we can link em all together. some skynet shit. (not sure if releasing ai on cards to public is a good thing now) (i mean and deep learning.. i mean..... that can be an issue...)

pcgamer
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-unveils-turing-architecture-providing-a-glimpse-inside-the-next-geforce-cards/


new gpu's are-
only 20 percent faster. dam near last line also.

discuss.

mining is great!
best hobby ever.


so like. i got some pcs on eth.. still churning a meh profit. but the eth enlargement helped.
got some high yeld shit coins on a rig here. and a rig there.

using grandma's and mama's places for some small setup's helps pay the electricity.
(u need to use the parents man. don't be lazy. go to home depot/lowes buy some wood and make some small rigs. https://imgur.com/a/jSGp2SS example - pc case like this. 2 mobos screw in back and 2 rows for 5 gpus each.. run a couple 1000 watts. find a emtpy room that mama or grandma not using, and plug them in.(extension cord second pc to another circuit within same room always possible) run them at 700 watts power by tweaking cards. nice 15amp line safe. do that in as many places they let you, free cash ty. mama.

I realize i'm still staking in the bills and everything is fine. because this low ball shit is temp. starting to think why not buy and sell at the 6/8 line. every lil bit helps.    put in a buy order at 5k. and prompt sell at 6, 7 ,8.

what you think guys? hows it going.

Please stay on topic. no random rants as these tend to happen with these power/riser threads.
IF YOU CAN - please answer back with number indication. Ex 1. ect. 2. ect 3. ect ect ect..


1. dual 8 pin adapter off gpu. how many watts ? 150 or more. no one has a clear answer. i know that 150 watts per single 8pin is standard and it's well below it's max. but does the dual adapters that psu's come with just hanging on that same 150 watts (however it can go more because it's just the specification?)?

2.dual 8pin on 1060 are safe (going off question 1's answer 1060's - two should be hitting your 150 watt rail not hard as it's maximum is higher much anyways).  how about 1070. i guess it depends on card? thoughts?

3a. dual sata female to 6pin. does it pull power equally off each sata port?  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400106&cm_re=dual_sata_to_6pin-_-12-400-106-_-Product

3b. can i use 1 sata string cable from psu with 4 male connections and use 2 connections of 54 watts(per sata adapter specs) to get a total of hopefully 100+ish draw. or do i need 2 separate sata cables. from what i understand the sata plug (just the tip not the wiring) is only able to allow 54 watts within it's limitation but if i use multiple plugs (***on the same cable***) does each plug have it's own rail is what im saying. if so that would make all those 4 port sata plugs useful in some sense.

3c. if 1 molex string from psu can power usually 2 1080ti's. or 1 if u overclocking. then technically if 3a. is true and it equally pulls. and 3b is true separate rails. then can't a single 4 string sata cable from psu, with 2 y adapters of sata going to a 6pin, be possible???    my main point is im lacking molex plugs on my psu. how can i use the sata's effectively. now i wouldn't run 2 y adapters on a single string, but if molex can run 2 on a single string. why can't sata, im guessing it matters about gauge wire at that point? im assuming the equal pulls and different rails and gauge all factor in to this. but this is advanced knowledge that is hard to find and only real people deep in the mines who messed with adapters know and i would love some info...

4. My problem is i got 4 dual pci rails off psu and 3 1080ti's plus 2 1060's. the 3 1080 ti's using dual pci express 8pin adapters. the the 1060's sharing the last dual 8pin. the peripherals  that came with my psu are 2 molex strings and 5 sata. how should i power my 5 cards, best options???. my opinion would be all 5 cards get there own 4 pin molex but i do not have that. more or less. can i use 2 risers per molex string for 1080ti? should i do the y adapter from dual sata to 6pin on the 1080ti's..    (i got some crappy unsafe sata risers but 1060s draw such little power that it's ok to use them on them .1070's can be a different story however).. regardless that 3rd 1080ti how should i go about powering it if i only got 2 molex strings.  Now it's obvious if i had the equip in front of me i'd be trying out stuff. i got a grasp of being safe with 1060's and 1070s. i just wanna make sure without blowing money on all different adapters i just get the info i need for 1080ti's and be done with it.. you guys know whats best. and it's obvious my answer should be a simple do this as i know whats up .

5. F it all , if adapters don't work and 3abc all is shit. how do i just buy more pata's for my psu. the website sells hx wires but not separately for the higher watts versions.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139205




help me please. i will be building six (3 1080's ti's and 2 1060's) rigs in the coming days and just want this riser power question out the way.
any info in what i should do would be appreciated.

Lets keep this page informative, as there is a lot of bs info out there on this very subject and others are in the same exact boat with me as to questions on how to go about the lack of PATA 4 pin molex cables in their below 1500 watt psu's.   the question is what do i do. what is best. all these dam sata strings. are they all literal trash or can we retrofit them to 6pin or .... again. what do i do.