https://github.com/room101-dev/Grand-Ultimate-BTC-Hacker/projects?query=is%3Aopen&type=classic

New hardware usb random generators are showing great accomplishments in using these monster bloom-filter baby-step/giant-step hacking system where on each cycle all the entire known btc high value addresses ( all 300M ) are compared on each cycle;

Problem in the past has been the weak pseudo random number generators for 'first guess', but now using /dev/random USB HW devices that cost less that $40 and or can be made for penny's using avalanche diodes on USB chips can lead ML system to first guess address to private-key translations and then iterative searches

Given 1,000's of private keys per hours on each RTX-3080 ( 5,000 Billion * 300M BTC address compares per cycle ), even old 2gb GPU nvidia cards can do a 300M * 300M comps which is close to a trillion comps on each cycle, not uncommon to find one lost bitcoin address pair per day on a common GPU rack;

Ok, here is one page of python to DUMP bitcoin addresses or anything for that matter you wish to dump to a file, by condition;

Note you must have a full bitcoin server running on your LAN
You must install the python library's, you should have a unix computer, you should have a 8 core cpu with 16gb or more ram, if your doing 8gb bloom filters to process the addresses, then you need +8gb of RAM, I use 32gb and 32 core amd cpus;

For hacking of bitcoin of course once you have the addresses and the made the 8gb bloom filter, then you can use a basic mining rig with gpus, but you still need +8gb of ram to hold the bloom-filter in memory.

This example gets the best block, which is the newest block, if you want to dump the entire blockchain, then you just change that number to '1', but in the real world you do this crap by batches, say 10k blocks at a time and then put the stuff in different files; If you were to run this code from '1' to best it could take a week to do the dump; So its best to dump in 8 hour shifts;

The point here is to keep it simple, and to be able to extract anything you want; For me I just want addresses, and once I have them, I can use other code to reformat the addresses into other BTC address formats;

This example I have a process that checks the 'bitcoin-cli getinfo' looks for a new block, then this routine is called which strips all high value addresses from the new block, and then add's them to the main 8gb bloom-filter, so that the bloom always has ALL the valuable addresses of BTC for all time;

But you do as you wish, explain to me what you want to DUMP, and I'll provide the code-glue here so you can see how to do this stuff; Again the point is to keep it simple and be able to maintain the code yourself;

Ignore all the pickle stuff, its useful for debugging or building very special dumps, say you want a dump of just your addresses, then pickle is a good way to go;

from bitcoinrpc.authproxy import AuthServiceProxy, JSONRPCException
import pickle

def addrlistVout( txid ):
#    rpc_connection = AuthServiceProxy("http://%s:%s@192.168.1.8:8332"%(rpc_user, rpc_password))
    addrlist = []
    raw = rpc_connection.getrawtransaction(txid)
    decode =rpc_connection.decoderawtransaction(raw)
    for vl in decode['vout']:
        if ( 'scriptPubKey' in vl ) and vl['value']>0 :
            sl = vl['scriptPubKey']
#            print(vl['scriptPubKey'])
            if ( 'addresses' in sl ) :
                for al in sl['addresses']:
                    addrlist.append(al)
#                    print ( al )
    return ( addrlist )

def findunique( nl, ol ):
    newlist=[]
    for i in nl:
        if ( i not in ol ):
            newlist.append(i)
    return( newlist )

def loadaddrlist():
    with open('addrlist.pkl','rb') as fp:
        addrlist=pickle.load(fp)
    fp.close()
    return(addrlist)

def saveaddrlist(addrlist):
    with open('addrlist.pkl','wb') as fp:
        pickle.dump(addrlist,fp)
    fp.close()

# remove duplicates if needed, as needed
def cleanaddrlist() :
    addrlist = loadaddrlist()
    newlist=[]
    for i in addrlist:
        for j in i :
            if len(j)>32:
                newlist.append(j)
    al = list(set(newlist))
    saveaddrlist(al)

def writeaddresslist(addrlist):
# address written as base58.txt becaues b58.perl generates hex.txt which is  fed to blf
    thefile = open('address.txt', 'w')
    for i in addrlist:
#                print( i )
                thefile.write("%s\n" % i )
    thefile.close()

if __name__ == '__main__':

    rpc_user = "hacker"
    rpc_password = "1234"
    rpc_connection = AuthServiceProxy("http://%s:%s@127.0.0.1:8332"%(rpc_user, rpc_password))

    best_block_hash = rpc_connection.getbestblockhash()
    blk = rpc_connection.getblock(best_block_hash)

# dump current block count height

    print( "getblockcount = %s" % rpc_connection.getblockcount() )

    txlist=[]
    alist=[]

    for txid in blk['tx']:
        txlist.append( txid )
        al=addrlistVout( txid )
        alist.append( al )

# make list & remove duplicates in list
    newlist=[]
    for i in alist:
        for j in i:
            newlist.append(j)

    addrl = list(set(newlist))

    print( "%d Transactions in block" % len(txlist) )
    print( "Unique Address %d in block" % len(addrl) )

    addrlist=loadaddrlist()

    uni = findunique( addrl, addrlist )

    print( "New Addresses Added to List %d" % len(uni) )
    addrlist.append(uni)

    saveaddrlist(addrlist)


# *** write the UNIQUE address list to text file

    thefile = open('base58.txt', 'w')

    for i in uni:
#                print( i )
        if ( len(i)==34 ) :           
            thefile.write("%s\n" % i )
    thefile.close()

[Original 'white paper' was published in 1997 by BIS, the Satoshi whitepaper from 2009 is a 99% copy by text of the BIS paper, and note Satoshi paper doesn't even credit the BIS paper.The SHA256 hash used by BTC, is 100% created and promoted by NSA; The NSA has never released on ALGO and mandated to the public in their +70 year history where they didn't have a backdoor; FactThe Secp256k1 eliptic curve that is used to generate bitcoin addresses from private keys is designed and developed by NSA; This particular curve is full of backdoors]

Original 'white paper' was published in 1997 by BIS, the Satoshi whitepaper from 2009 is a 99% copy by text of the BIS paper, and note Satoshi paper doesn't even credit the BIS paper.

The SHA256 hash used by BTC, is 100% created and promoted by NSA; The NSA has never released on ALGO and mandated to the public in their +70 year history where they didn't have a backdoor; Fact

The Secp256k1 eliptic curve that is used to generate bitcoin addresses from private keys is designed and developed by NSA; This particular curve is full of backdoors

Anybody that says "TRUST BITCOIN" is a certified MORON.

Who do you trust? Not sure, here's what I think today.

Ethereum is better because it uses KECCAK algos which are Russia developed and stronger; But now ETH has been compromised by 'staking' where all the staking is controlled by US-GOV so they can black-list addresses on their whim; Ergo while ETH is the better coin, its fucked.

ETC using classic ETH algo and not stake is therefore secure, but is ignored because it doesn't make you rilch.

Monero is known to be full of backdoors as its origin is from questionable INTEL sources with CIA-NSA

I particularly like Zcash, and the Zen derivatives as they all super secret addresses to hide transfers, so you have real privacy, while BITCOIN/ETH offer NO privacy.

Forget about the $$$ money bullshit and getting rich off of crypto; It's just like GOLD, you hide it some place and never tell anybody you have it, best is if you flee, you don't have to carry it with you; This is about FREEDOM, not fuck all about getting rich quick or making assholes like bankman-ponzi rich. Or the CZ's of HK;

The point is a trusted Crytpo is ...

1.) Private
2.) Not developed by the 'man' aka the police state (CIA, NSA, CCB, KGB, MOSSAD )
3.) Strong solid blockchain requiring minimal maintenance;
4.) world wide server base so that transactions can be fast, and no gov can block on ramps to the servers ( VPN )

At this point what is known is that FTX was used to fund Ukraine, that is why $8 Billion USD are 'missing', BIDEN was using FTX to funnel money to UKRAINE and zelensky was buying FTX so that the US money sent to Ukraine can funnel back to BIDEN crony's; FTX Bankman-Ponzi was #2 financial supporter to put BIDEN into power; Ergo the PONZI and the take down of crypto have all been orchestrated by deep-state aka CIA/NSA/BIS ( the bankers ); Possibly more exchanges and cryptos have been used to fund Ukraine conduit back to US political pockets; Certainly of the $100 Bill sent to Ukraine to date, at least 50% was used by Zelensky to buy Crypto where it was money laundered back into USA stocks and real-estate;

In summary 99% of the crypto establish is ran and promoted by common criminal assholes; It's up to you to be part of the 1% and steer clear of the shit;

[ALLOW ME TO DEFINE 99% drop, I'm not talking about BTC I'm talking about the ASSHOLES that FINANCIALIZED BTC]

We need to get back to SATOSHI-101 crypto, that is no gov, no exchange, just p2p like minded libertarian humans

In the past ten years Crypto had been taken over by every low life form of human parasite on earth, to get rich quick or financially fuck their fellow human beings

now that the crypto balloon is popped going forward can all the parasites just leave? Is that asking too much??

The exchanges and their 100x leverage, and pulling NFT's & Tokens out of their ass calling them assets, and the 20k shit-coins just created a lot waste of energy, but the good new is its all now worthless;

So BTC reverts to $3k, and ETH reverts to $300, but ETH is now fucked with stake they are now compromised by US-GOV, so its now ETC going forward the only real ETH algo, with no ownership by US-GOV who wants to block/ban addresses that are not dot-gov approved, they'll do the same thing with BTC in time if you dumb bitches allow it

ALLOW ME TO DEFINE 99% drop, I'm not talking about BTC I'm talking about the ASSHOLES that FINANCIALIZED BTC


Talking about the exchanges here, and NOT about BITCOIN, there are now 20k shit-coins, most are shit 99%

The exchanges are the fucking problem, long ago if determined the value of btc p2p met in a park and traded a bag of cash; Price is what people will pay;

The exchanges created tokens and defi, and various other pet rocks that are soon to be 99% worthless;

The question is will the morons leave when ALL the fucking money is gone??

BITCOIN will live on, possibly even at $1k or less so fucking what; It was never about the money, or getting rich easy, it was always about FREEDOM

#here /dev/random uses the onerng usb random generator to get the seed
e=$(cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail)
h=$( head -c $e /dev/random | sha3sum -b -a 256 | awk '{print $1}' ); echo $h
echo '/dev/random from onerng'

ok, here assumes you have a ONERNG-USB ($40USD) or equiv plugged into a linux hw box

Note here in bash ( if u can't read bash then go away ), where is is the N, of significant non-recurring random bits from device normal should be about 3k but so what we only need 256 bits for a key ( private bit coin key )

Here 'h' is the key, note that where 'e' gets the Number of entropy, we only clip off that top N for the 'hash'

Note I'm NOT using sha256, I'm using keccak 3, which is RUSSIA, sha256 & ecdlp-256kp1 are NSA all 100% of bitcoin is NSA, which means they have back doors

So by not using SHA to has the random bits, you ensure that NSA can't backdoor your generated addresses ( know this in stone bitches )

The problem is that all random number generation on linux dist are now compromised;

Sure the HW USB device is simple, an avalanche diode an A2D convert and a FTDI chip, if you buy know HW if there is CPU then your are FUCKED; KISS folks, keep it simple stupid

There is tons of software on linux to measure 'entropy' of your device, certainly your generated device should generate 10x non-recurring entropy over target.

I will say one last time, KECCAK-512-3 is RUSSIAN the Sha256 which is based on BTC is NSA, like ECDLP256kp1 all are NSA

Not since 1950's has NSA ever released or mandated an ALGO, where they did not have backdoor KEYS, FACT

ENJOY; Using electrum or any wallet, and preferrably you should be running your own private electrum-server for anonymity, you can import your key and gen addressses and do as you wish;

If you don't understand the above, then find a mentor, but for gods sake don't use 3rd party software and don't use this shit while your connected online, its assumed your using a disconnected dinosaur computer with no access to internet

regarding your HW avalanche diode device, this is the kind of stuff we made when we were 8 years old in the day electronics, certainly if you don't roll your own, if you can't read a schematic, if you don't know for sure that your device is not compromised, then you are fucked.

Well this was bound to happen, except binance almost all stable coins are kaput, and everybody ( exchange house )  that had FTX in their accounts is dead, which is most exchanges;

Certainly no doubt that Bankman-Ponzi was allowed to do this in order to destroy crypto, well at least in USA, the rest of the world will be fine;

Exchange are bullshit, it allowed crypto to go to $3 Trilllion USD capitalization, now say it goes back to $300M or even $30M so what, if your true and just sit on your cold keys with no intention to sell, so fucking what?

Certainly the 10x leveraged trade game and the tokens that enabled the bullshit, but letting trading houses pull tokens out of their ass and call them assets and sell them to clients for real money, ... all is now kaput;

So what 99% of the money in CRYPTO is soon to be gone, but 1% of $3 Trlllion USD is still $3 Billion USD plenty of value to cover the ins&outs of real people who want to take 'banking' off the grid

So long live the real dream of satoshi.

[Here we are NOV 2022, and ETH has gone stake, and billions of GPU cards have NOTHING to do with their lives;]

https://github.com/room101-dev/Grand-Ultimate-BTC-Hacker

Grand-Ultimate-BTC-Hacker
Two parts here random key search of bitcoin, and ECDLP high-level math analysis to map public-keys to private.

Here we are NOV 2022, and ETH has gone stake, and billions of GPU cards have NOTHING to do with their lives;


Special report how to hack to the next level by generating real NSA level HW random numbers to start your bloom-filter searches in the astronomic world of bitcoin hacking;

https://github.com/room101-dev/Grand-Ultimate-BTC-Hacker/issues

Well now that GPU's don't have a home no better time than to hack bitcoin, note that this code only needs 1.5GB of GPU, so even the old 1060 2gb cards work fine

With say rtx-3070 you can do 100's of billions of search per second with just one card, a gtx-1060-3 does about 300M ( *300M compare bloom filter address per cycle )

Note here is an example of using the real random number generator; Note that while the code says 'vanity' its 99% hacked to do just one thing, hack bitcoin;

The Czech $40USD USB random number generators are real good about generating real random numbers to seed the algo that feeds new keys to the engine;

I will post code example ( bash linux ) [ From drive loop ]

here /dev/random uses the onerng usb random generator to get the seed
e=$(cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail)
h=$( head -c $e /dev/random | sha3sum -b -a 256 | awk '{print $1}' ); echo $h
echo '/dev/random from onerng'
timeout 120m /mnt/Mining/Crypto/vanity-search/VanitySearch -gpu -s "$h" -gpu -gpuId 3 -t 1 -r 5000 $prefix

Works fine finds 'lost' bitcoin day in and day out;

There are like ten concurrent processes, here's list of top three;

1.) look for lost btc in the list of rich btc addresses
2.) every hour get new rich addresses from mining-pool and add to master list and update bloom-filter ( 8gb )
3.) every 500 new priv-keys run through the electrum private server and sweep any and all lost coins found.

Enjoy

The pseudo random number generate in SW on CPU's is shit this czech device uses the most advanced tech on earth to generate real random numbers, which are seeds to drive algo's;

[CRYPTO invites CRIMINALS like flys on Feces.]

Baby Chia -aka Chia-Clones: Some 90% of all Chia Clones are Scam's

The Russians don't even call it a 'chia clone', they call them 'little chia', and they proudly assert that virtually all are a scam.

Now this doesn't surprise as Chia in and of itself is a scam, thus scam's begat scammer's, and more scammers; So long as their are 'chia sheep' there will be scammers;

Unlike Bitcoin, chia has no natural protection the code is wide open to exploitation, both chia&clones are wide open to external RPC's calls to dump the private-keys, and silly 12 words mneumonic phrases;  Chia-Net SW is a criminal paradise, and the clones, the 'little ones' have added an entire new dimension to the scam.

Now that 1,000 TB  is required to earn one xch every 3 days, or that a clone only generates easy coin if you have say +1,000 plots until the clone hits 100PB;

Chia is now 30EB ( thirty million trillion bytes ), it takes 1PB to earn 0.333 xch/day; One PB is 1000TB, or 10k 'plots' ( 108gb files)

https://www.chiaexplorer.com/

Common scams;

(1) Running dead clones that do nothing than when ran they open all the ports to external bot's who then issue RPC calls to dump the privates keys, which can later be used to steal xch ( chia );

Given that everybody uses the same private-key for evertything, as the public-key is embedded in the plot-file name ( 108gb file ), and because everybody wants all the plots' to work on all the clones; that everything is the same; If a hacker can get the private-keys for the clone, then he has the private-key for the chia which is worth $280 USD, unlike all clones which are worth zero.

(2) Many scam's involve re-plotting and telling people to re-plot again, where after the users have wasted time the clone dev's say send proof of plotting and we'll compensate, of course the proof of plotting is the file-names ( public-keys ) and wallet contents which are the details of their private-keys which can be used to steal chia.

The other angle on CHIA is that some 25% of all the plots on HPOOL ( 85% of chia mining on one miner hpool.co ) are fake-plots, meaning hackers just create 'artifical plot files" and feed them to the pools, to which already the pool's have lost MILLIONS of US-DOLLAR paying out on fake plots; Audits have been done, some +25% of all plots were fake.

The scammers having been 'busted' now have become more creative and that's where 'clones' come in, by circle jerking naive users the scam-clones ask for proof of plots, which is a list of all files, which are the public-keys; Once having valid key names that are already valid on HPOOL, the scammer then generates new fake-plots using those keys; Which means the real owner of the plots now has worthless plots because they get double-mined, and ergo banned;

(3) Newest scam is the re-plot scam, the clones have endless reasons to replot like the current chia-new plots called NFT; Because the clones says u must re-plot they offer 'compensation' if you send proof-of-plotting to them which is of course wallet details, public&private keys; Re-Plotting damages your HW, as NVME drives needed to plot have a limited write-life, so everytime u re-plot say 200 plots u destroy a $200 USD NVME drive; Of course scammers know that the more the 'mark' has invested in them, least likely he will walkaway.

If you bother to visit the main chia-net site, you will see under issues that 50% of the posts are "Somebody Stole my Chia"
, funny thing is all blame is placed on mother company, and nobody looks to the clones: I think this largely because the clones have no value, so it only makes sense to complain to the coin of value.

https://github.com/Chia-Network/chia-blockchain

CHIA sold itself as green 100's of 1,000's of new millenial suckers post-COVID bought HDD's and spent their stimulus on 'chia mining', of course given that if you don't have at least 1,000TB ( $30k of HDD's  ) u have no possibility of income; Even a modest investment of say $3k (100TB) generates about $5/day of chia-coin, much less than a comparable cost mining ETH GPU rig would generate.

There is no possibility for the CHIA to go up in price so the coin can only go down making it less profitable.

Chia-Net is much to blame for all these problem, as they never even intended to make chia 'secure' its wide open by design, as its naive green theme is like 'It's ok to leave gold on the table, we're all family here, nobody need steal from one another', of course this is 100% bullshit because CRYPTO invites CRIMINALS like flys on Feces.

Many chia-clone scammers are now offering 'air-drops' so that suckers are sticky and never leave, the bots are always running, keystrokes & all; In a short time I can see chia-clones as bigger source of keystroke data than porn ,which currently is number one source of keystroke as when people visit porn sites they leave with key-stroke bots; Who go on to clear bank accounts, stock's and anything they can find on your computer.

Better than "GOLD" for criminals, BTC is easier to steal; Easier to scam; PPL lock their gold up, keep their mouth shut, gold lasts forever;

PPL who play BTC, trade it on the exchanges, are just targets, and hardly whales or rich;

Bury a LB of gold in the Ground, and 1BTC private-key scratched glass; bury them together come back in 20 years, I can tell u which one exactly will have value, because its a historical fact. In 20 years from now this generation BTC will be a pet-rock artifact. BTC is based on SHA-256 an NSA tech with at best a 10-20 year shelf-life, ergo hashes will have been long de-hashed into public-keys easily solved  by discrete-log supercomputers. The Secp256k1 algo to make the key into public ( also NSA ) will have long been hacked&cracked making all 2010 era Btc's worthless in the coming years.

Now if u had today a Secp2048k1 elliptic-curve and key 512bit say 10^88 ( atoms in universe ) then I would say maybe that super-btc would be around 20+ years form now; but in the next 2-3 all of BTC will be common place crackable.

The problem today is that the entire BTC narrative is ran by bullshitters and promoters to keep the ponzi alive, like 99% of the paid comments & posts on this forum by to 'influencers' by scammers;

Very few, perhaps 1 in 10k people even have a clue about bitcoin vulnerability, IMHO its all a joke, created by the NSA (satoshi) to see how long as a puzzle before their algo's got cracked&hacked; The fact that the joke went viral, but have them at the puzzle-palace all in a hysterical laughter, remember these people don't care about MONEY$$ then can print it to free to infinity, they don't need to make crypto to have wealth, they own the printing-press. The NSA already had the power to create infinite USD fiat;

Lastly, they can pull the plug on BTC anytime they wish, which is why bitcoin is kept around a crippled old "Your Grandfathers Crypo".

In the future people will be saying, why did everybody just sit on their ass and not move their wealth into a longer term, safer crypto than first generation bitcoin sha256/secp256k1??


Not a peep, what can they say? Nuttin

Go with the flow, go with the narrative, it works until it doesnt'.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

Well as people have been saying for months, Tether is crap, and the entire price of all crypto is traded in Tether, which just happens to have a CAP of $63Billion USD, but only has $2B of real assets ( aka cash )

So right now they just lost $3B ( now $60B ) that means if the first to leave already got their 'cash', then there is no cash left for the bag-holders ( HODLer's )

Well a few days ago hpool.com went down, and then reappeared in the USA as HPOOL.CO

Now for those who don't know hpool.com was the main pool for chia-net

For all the talk about 'green' and how the chinese love hdd crypto's, well its now very clear that its seen as just as dirty as bitcoin.

Surely this be so, because CHIA has completely destroyed the HardDisk purchasing, none are available in ASIA.

Normal security cameras cannot obtain HDD's these days, so people can't even do new installs

I get kids asking me here in asia, if anybody is selling, IMHO I say no, because I think they're just moving out of certain regions of china, boxing the equipment and finding a new home,
Trouble in recent years is everybody was mining in one place, where they had cheap coal, the water is real low, so hydro ain't avail anymore cheap

Anybody see anything? So I can tell these kids?

Sure I can go on alibaba.com and there is a ton of 'used crap' like 5+ year old s-12's that do 20th, but generally the stuff is smoked out, and 90% of the time it never ship's and alibaba still gets paid, whether it ships or not, or even if it gets shipped its usually not what was described an  return shipping costs more than it cost to buy in the first place, and then they just deny they ever got it back, virtually impossible to 'correct'

Seriously, WTF does this really mean?

An S-19 is 2500 Watts, a standard 1M sq solar panel is 300W, so say you need to ten run the miner, but that only' from 8am-4pm, what's you going to do the other 16 hours,

Of course U could locate your green miners near a river and hydro, .. but that's why they went to the coal areas, as the rivers have dried up

So that leaves Iceland and 'geo-thermal' ASIC mining, ...

Now, who is going to tell me when MUSK's request is met, that +50% of all ASIC miners on earth have gone 'green'

R we going to re-define 'green' sort of like how "CHIA" HDD mining is 'green' where it kills SSD's & HDD's that must be dumped in toxic land-fills, so green indeed.

Just posting this OP, because most news sources just run "Musk is back to Bitcoin", they don't tell you his caveat, that it must go green.

[They say ... Chia is green, Chia is 'woke', Chia is for 'gay people, not for nerds', Chia is the future of Crypto....]

They say ... Chia is green, Chia is 'woke', Chia is for 'gay people, not for nerds', Chia is the future of Crypto....


Surely rose glasses have infected their brain.

The Chinese own and run Chia since day one last year [2020] when they funded the project, or I should say 'rescued' chia [ a floundering going no where project lost since 2017 ], the deal is this.

The Chinese billionaires ( same guy who funded the ukraine bitcoin-gold, aka bch ) wanted

1.) IOU's ran by chinese exchanges they sent the price to $1600 usd, pre main-net, the west had nothing to do with chia price, pre mainnet launch 5may2021
2.) The xch 21M pre-mine is the property of the 'chinese investor'
3.) The dev-team in SV aka bram&hoffman ( aka mr bit-torrent aka porn-king ) get the IPO, said to be wroth in access of $10B USD; Next RedHat for Crypto-Support Fortune500
4.) The chinese people get to pre-mine on hpool, the west told to 'wait', the pools were to never come
5.) The chinese people get to play 'lottery' with the IOU system

7.) The HDD companys all Asian based like WD, Samsung, ... all were working since last year [2020] on this deal, that like GPU's the HDD's to go 10x in price, in the west we would call this 'collusion', in asia its business as normal

8.) The western gimps, hairlips, and believers get zip, zilch nada chia. They aren't even bag-holders, they're empty bag holders,and then they're told to re-plot. The world has never seen a bigger pool of lemmings.

That's the deal, now you adjust your polly-anna wishes to reality.

I like Proof-of-Capacity, but it has big problems, some might know, but on HPOOL some 20% of all submitted plots are fake, it turns out that in all the rush to main-net, nobody gave it a thought that people might generate 'fake plots' to the pools, which is another reason probably that chia-dev has drag their arse on the subject of pools, they probably knew this would be the outcome, remember the only goal of chia-dev (SV) is the IPO, as all other wealth stays in CHINA, with the chinese billionaires investors who funded chia post 2020.

STOP talking about POOLS there is only one pool HPOOL, that got the lead, because its all a scam, the chia-dev in USA(SV) say solo-mine, in ASIA everybody uses HPOOL and has earned a ton of xch, the west has a big zero, you think this wasn't all planned.

The HPOOL sw is solid like  a rock, never seen a bug, the chia-net dev sw is shit, u think this wasn't all planned?

Bait&Switch folks.

All the paid influencers on YT, are paid by Western-Digital drives manufacturing and SAMSUNG, but guess what, all the drives on earth are made in ASIA.

The west has gotten the shaft, and the morons eat the feces of the YT influencers.

...

I  bought lots of 16TB drives for $200 each months ago, today they're over $500, and 18tb drives are going for over $1k USD, so I'm not biting this bullshit, I'm done, in time I will re-deploy my plots to a better PoC coin, as I think chia is shit, and will implode.

[ Right now today, mining HDD 20TB generates $4.64 / day, so you do the the math, today 20TB is two 10tb drives at $500 USD, so its comparable to gtx-1070 mining. Ref Chia on Hpool]

bitcoinhd BitcoinHDBHD
burstcoin BurstCoinBURST
litecoinhd LitecoinHDLHD
diskcoin DiskcoinDISC
hddcash HDD.CashHDD
xrphd XRPHDXHD
mass MassMASS
chia ChiaXCH
arweave Arweave

Take you pic from the list above ( mining pool hdd ), chia has the highest price, but most of the stuff is abandoned projects, e.g. the code has been left to die on github. IMHO CHIA will fork, that will be the next great PoC coin, and it will be ran out of ASIA, and not the west, the west will stay for mr-bittorrent porn king; Asia will run with classic-chia, and SV will push chia-porn-plots

Well its begun again, complete loss across the board this day, even XCH is down -20%, and HORIZEN  is down -15%

Crypto just can't get any respect, or has it lost new suckers to play the game?

HODL on garth, remember the bag holders must HODL all the way back to $3k and below.

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/were-not-selling-fk-elon-bitcoin-rebounds-after-microstrategy-announces-400-million-bond


Seems like the biggest news is that TRUMP did an ELON, and dumped on bitcoin, called it a scam even? Nada, tell me its not true garth?

[Of course a rich mans greatest fear is losing his wealth, so POS is an expected outcome of the kleptocracy known as crypto]

Vitalik & Friedman beat their chests over the new "Oligarch" Proof of Stake system coming to Bitcoin, where only the 'rich' (whales) have a voice in Crypto. Why not follow the Serf Peasant model, it worked for 1,000's of years.

Two biggest whales lecture you why its terrible to be a whale, all the while POS moves on which gives the whales more power over the sheep (POW ppl); Vitalik is a Oligrach, but he likes to play the Musk came of 'I'm one of u little ppl'

POS, or "Proof of Snake", is a scam so that only the rich whales control crypto, this is not what got crypto off the ground to begin with.

Little people, anybody could cpu mine, .... blah blah Satoshi NSA talking points 2009, but then now that crypto is the size of GDP of entire country's its natural for the rich to make sure that their children can inherit 100% ownership of crypto, and to insure that forever some scum 3rd world  loser child doesn't rise up and take control

Of course a rich mans greatest fear is losing his wealth, so POS is an expected outcome of the kleptocracy known as crypto

Right now its comparable with mining ETH; Say right now for every 400 plots you can make $10/day, about the same as  +200MH rig of gpus, 1-2 weeks ago chia was $20/day, but so was ETH now its $10/day

Seems like all crypto is quickly less profitable this is not about price drop, as its the coin amount that has gone down, for instance +2 weeks ago my rigs did 0.01 ETH per day now its 0.005, nothing to do with price, the ETH just simply reduced miner fee's

WRT to chia the space growth has finally dropped from 8%/day to now 1%/day, but still not in decline.

Certainly if you don't have +500 plots your not in game, also lots of FUD right now with the 'portable plot' kluster-f*ck, the lies about pools, the new scam pools like chia-core, or just core-pool, as chia-net says nobody on earth can say 'chia seed' but them,

Well with GPU's your income comes & goes with miners moving around, but with chia, certainly space will continue to grow, first they said 'your plots are forever', now they say 'time to replot', this kills our nvme drives to re-plot, so certainly this scam will never end the rules will change by the hour, and when bram&hoffman are having their periods.

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Comparing GPU to HDD mining, well GPU mining doesn't kill your hw ( keep it clean, dry, dust free , and keep power/temp < 70C )

HDD mining kills NVME drives, kill HDD drives which constantly have to be 'tested' everything about HDD mining well at least the 'chia model' is destruction of drives so that manufacturers can sell more product, funny thing as most have already excluded warranty for HDD-mining, but paid for the practice, most CHIA influencers on YT are paid by WD, ... Just like NVIDIA there cards sell out, so they punish miners by down-grading MH, go figure 'do what we say, so we may then punish you', this is of course psychotic.

If you 'plot' ( make a plot file ) on a HDD, you will kill the drive, so we use NVME drives pcie-4x16, nearest cpu; If you plot with SSD-sata you will kill them, chia is an enterprise business, yet the influencers still say 'bring your old hw to be destroyed, and then buy new', whats a mother not to like about the biggest multi-billion USD tech-scam to come along?

Once you have a 'plot' ( 108gb file of binary crap ), then you store on a 7200rpm enterprise grade HDD, because the process of mining ( farming they call it ) also destroys drives as they must be stress tested often to validate 'signature' of the plot, in fact already on HPOOL ( largest & only real pool, based in china ), they have found 500PB ( PB 1E15, about 100xch/day )  of 'fake plots', which have been banned.

Early plotting showed that NVME's could be destroyed with as little as 25% of TWB, so your 5 yr warranty for $200 NVME is kaput in 2 weeks. To date +2 months of dabbling in Chia, I have killed 2 HDD's, and 2 NVME's, about $600 USD loss in hw, funny if you think about hw death, then this scam is really a loss, the only winner is the HD manufacturers. I say this because its difficult to earn more than $500/month as a chia plotter/farmer. The problem to date was at a 8%/day growth rate of space now 18.1EB ( EB-1E18 ), that if you make say 24 new plots a day, then every week you fall behind 2x, the only way you can stay even is to grow your plot-farm 8%/day, which means that you would need to double your number of NVME drives every 9 days. Of course this isn't possible, because you can only say have one-thread ripper class machine to two NVME's @pcie1x16, random access. Which means 16-48 plots per day, but to stay even, you would have to buy third-ripper ( 32core, 64gb ram ) class machines to stay even, and the SSD's for OS,

I think most people set a goal of 100 plots, 500 plots, or 1,000 plots and then just quit. The 1,000 plot ppl can enjoy $30/day, which is comparable to one mining rig last month, but the problem is EB will grow, expect 100EB, but 1,000EB is possible. Which means that even the data-center people will end up with no ROI, and millions of $$$'s of dead hardware, that cannot be resold as everybody knows that anything 'chia farmed' is DOA, KAPUT, and Moidered.

["Bram said he would take you places, he never said they would be good places"]

https://github.com/Chia-Network/chia-blockchain/issues

Well it had to happen, +1200 bugs not being addressed more coming in daily, what would a sw management team do? Hell yes, ban the bug reporters, problem solved.

https://github.com/Chia-Network/chia-blockchain

I know everybody is bored with this crypt shit-coin, but its fascinating, they're now paying for 1,000's of chia-influencers on youtube, and 100's of languages all claiming that you can get rich, using old hard-disks.

just search 'youtube' "chia mining", "Chia plotting", "Chia pools"; you will find 1st class production quality videos in every known language all on the same script

90% of the people using CHIA are new to crypto, this thing is a huge new scam opportunity for scammers, crypto the scam that never quits giving

Your telling me there is 'porn' on bit-torrent? Where do I signup?

https://github.com/Chia-Network/chia-blockchain/discussions/5837?sort=new

say what? The founders are hairballs?

https://github.com/Chia-Network/chia-blockchain/discussions/6359

Then there is this from porn king Bram Cohen ( godfather of CHIA ) - "Chia Miners aren't entitled to anything", when asked about where his 21M pre-mine went? and why to date that 'solo-miners' after two months have gotten ZERO XCH;

"Bram said he would take you places, he never said they would be good places"


https://www.reddit.com/r/chia/comments/nq0z97/decided_to_return_my_remaining_180_tb_of_drives/

[JPM also says that most people now trust only gold, because while btc lost +50% of value, GOLD actually went up.]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-price-crash-isnt-over-jp-morgan-105555648.html

They also say that institutions are done with btc, so that means now that only soi boyz with the 0.05 btc allowance,  can hodl, but no new money to raise the ponzi.

JPM also says that most people now trust only gold, because while btc lost +50% of value, GOLD actually went up.

"There is little doubt that the boom and bust dynamics of the past weeks represent a setback to the institutional adoption of crypto markets and in particular of Bitcoin and Ethereum. We note that the mere rise in volatility, especially relative to gold, is an impediment to further institutional adoption as it reduces the attractiveness of digital gold vs. traditional gold in institutional portfolios,"

"Only Gold is Money, All Else is Credit, but BITCOIN is an ethereal number in  Michael Jackson's 'Neverland'" - JP Morgan