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1  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / [ANN]ROUND - ИГРАЙ С ДРУЗЬЯМИ в CS:GO на токены уже сейчас! on: November 05, 2016, 10:46:47 PM



Update 3

Мы работаем пол года, основная цель, за это время, была собрать конструктивную критику по работе платформы, что улучшить, изменить, доработать, чтобы пользователь получил качественный продукт.  Для мотивации игроков принять участие в проверке продукта, проводились турниры и промо с призовыми от 500 - 2000$, за это время на платформе зарегистрировалось 520 человек. Принимали участие люди из совершенно разных целевых аудиторий, и разного уровня игры в CS:GO. Благодаря этому мы получили критику с разных точек зрения, как новичков так и профессионалов, стало ясно что нужно и тем и другим.  


Система рангов

В первую очередь важно ввести систему рангов, и распределять игроков в зависимости от уровня игры в соответсвующие лиги. Это исключит варианты когда слабый игрок попадает на сильного и теряет интерес к игре так как выиграть шансов мало. За время работы бетты регистрировалось много новичков, поучаствовав несколько раз в турнирах, играя с сильными игроками понимали, что смысла им дальше продолжать участия нет, и переставали проявлять активность. Отсортировав пользователей по уровню игры, их вовлеченность и соревновательный эффект будет расти и соответсвенно повысится активность на платформе.

 
Античит + GO TV

Далее необходимо установить на платформу античит, чтобы быстро определять игрока с нечестной игрой и вносить его в черный список. Во время проведения бетты регулярно проводились турниры (основа нашего маркетинга), на призовых мы не экономили, что привело к желанию игроков использовать коды для легкой победы на турнире. Вообще читинг является одной из основных проблем не позволяющих киберспорту развиваться должным образом. Изучив проблему, поняли что самое эффективное решение на данный момент, это интегрировать платный античит с постоянными обновлениями, и контроль за игроками администраторами платформы, через просмотр демо матчей игроков. Для этого мы будет использовать GO TV, что позволит автоматически записывать демо игры пользователей. Запись будет доступна сразу после матча, соперники и админы получат возможность скачать демо и изучить игру. Запись будет автоматически сохраняться на игровом сервере.


Новые режимы игры и карты

Тут все легко и просто чем больше карт и режимов тем интересней и веселей, разнообразие и выбор всегда важны.
Соответсвенно в апдейт 3 обязательно будут включены режимы 2х2, 3х3, 5х5 + новые карты (Карты передовой, 5х5 режим: Dust II, Cache, Nuke, Mirage, Train, Overpass, Cobblestone, Inferno; 2х2 режим: Shorttrain, Shortdust, St. Marc, Safehouse, Lake, Bank; 1х1 режим: aim_map2_go, aim_stw_ak47_m4a1, aim_1v1_usp, aim_map, awp_india, aim_usp), если есть еще интересные локации которые мы не включили в список, пишите нам, добавим.


Сервер

После выхода апдейта 3 мы планируем активно продвигать, развивать, пиарить платформу, будет больше регистраций и активности соответсвенно нагрузка на сервер вырастет, надо подготовить платформу. Эту задачу будем решать за счет переезда на более мощный сервер и изменения самого алгоритма взаимодействия платформы с игровыми серверами. Сможем выдерживать нагрузку в 500 и более игр одновременно.


Расчетный модуль

Сеть Эфир постоянно выпускает обновления, к сожалению это не тот случай когда обновление просто автоматически устанавливается и все работает так как раньше, в нашем случае нужно интегрировать обновление в расчетный модуль, что занимает больше времени и средств. Так же надо подготовить систему к новым режимам, прописать новые алгоритмы.  Расчетный модуль очень важен и должен работать без задержек и ошибок.  Многие игроки которые не знали что такое криптовалюта, заинтересовались проектом именно из за этого, так как прочуствовали на практике преимущество этой системы.
 

Работы по update 3 не мало, реализация займет 2 мес, приблизительная дата выхода 1 ноября 2017. На время разработки, все турниры и промо будут отменены. На данном этапе продукт не готов к массовому использованию, и тратить средства на турниры в режиме 1х1 не эффективно. Платформа будет доступна в режиме бетты, вы можете играть с друзьями или искать соперников здесь на форуме или в Telegram channel. После выхода update 3, продукт будет готов к активному пиару, мы запустим регулярное проведение турниров для игроков разного ранга, также будут проводиться промо для новичков, и реферальные программы. Спасибо всем за активность и критику, благодаря вам мы теперь знаем куда развиваться дальше, чтобы создать качественный продукт и в будущем привлечь внимание многих любителей киберспорта.




Купить Round на Liqui.io


О ПРОЕКТЕ

ROUND — игровая соревновательная платформа по CS:GO(в дальнейшем планируем добавление игры Dota), которая позволяет участникам либо группе участников соревноваться между собой на деньги.

ROUNDCOIN - Ethereum токен, выпущенный для произведение взаиморасчетов между игроками. Узнать цену и приобрести Roundcoin можно на бирже Liqui.io

Пользователи уже сейчас могут соревноваться в Counter-Strike 1vs1 на токены Round на 11ти AIM картах, победителем становиться игрок набравший 16 победных раундов из 30-ти. После чего победителю сразу же будет выплачен выигрыш смарт-контрактом. Минимальная ставка 10 Rounds. Для игр необходимо иметь аккаунт в Steam. Мы старались сделать все максимально просто и удобно. Текущая Beta поддерживает до 30-50 одновременных матчей онлайн, с возможностью оперативного увеличения мощностей до 100+ игр онлайн.


МАРКЕТИНГ

Много времени было потрачено на изучение методов маркетинга нашего проекта, был изучен опыт успешных стартапов в игровой и смежных индустриях. И мы рады сообщить, что нашли как нам кажется идеальный вариант промоушена: вся основа маркетинга проекта Round будет строится на Турнирах с гарантированным призовым фондом.

Нам кажется, что турниры способны привлечь критическую массу пользователей для проекта  довольно быстро. Впервые геймеры смогут монетизировать свои навыки — это цель которую мы прежде всего ставили перед собой.








PROMO

ПРОМО 1
Получите 100 ROUNS

Условия:
1. Зарегистрируйтесь на игровой платформе, и получите 50 раундов.
2. Сыграйте 1 турнир, и получите вторую часть вашего промо, еще 50 раундов.
По поводу участия в промо пишите YEP++ в Telegram channel

ПРОМО 2 - для стримеров.




ДАЛЬНЕЙШИЕ ПЛАНЫ

В первую очередь хотим собрать обратную связь от пользователей, доработать некоторые моменты интерфейса и протестировать работу платформы уже в реальных условиях. Затем планомерно наращивать клиентскую базу и постоянно улучшать проект (на примере Counter-Strike):

1. Командные игры 2vs2 и 5vs5
2. Возможность выбора разных карт
3. Возможность делать ставки на исход игры зрителями (например на матч известной команды), при этом часть ставки будет идти в призовой фонд      победителя. Вирусный эффект развития, за счет заинтерсованности кибер-спортсменов привлекать лояльную аудиторию на свои матчи на платформе Раунд.
4. постоянная оптимизация и улучшение архитектуры платформы

И конечно же, добавление новых игр - Dota, League of Legents, FIFA и главное новые турниры!


UPDATES - что было сделано после выхода беты.

UPDATE 1



С выходом бета версии платформы Round прошло 2 недели. За это время мы уже собрали опредленный фидбек от пользователей и наметили ключевые моменты по улучшению продукта.

Самым главным выводом стало, что геймерам (хоть их и не много сейчас, но мы смогли завлечь действительно профессиональных игроков) довольно сложно разобраться в текущей версии функционирования проекта. А именно -  установка и использование кошелька Метамаск, пополнение его Эфиром для оплаты комиссий, расчет стоимости самих комиссий за ставку, подтверждение ставки при создании, а также  отслеживание движений своего баланса через блокчейн. То есть все то, что связано с блокчейн составляющей. Также довольно часто при правильой последовательности дейтсвий, просто глючит либо зависает сам Метамаск.

Понимая, что основная целевая аудитория для нас все таки геймеры, было принято решение кардинально упростить вышеописанные процессы, жертвуя неким элементом децентрализации. Это несомненно ускорит темпы развития и весь проект только выиграет от этого.



UPDATE 2



GO GO GO
2  Economy / Services / 0.003BTC per constructive post. Round project, decentralized eSports platform. on: October 23, 2016, 08:12:39 PM



Hello to all.

I'm represent Round project developers team. Our aim - build world class decentralized eSports platform. We are open for disccussion, suggestions and feedback. To engage conversation we decide to pay for constructive posts in our thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1657439.0

Conditions:

1) Constructive post (no min or max symbols required), it may be short sentence with great idea as opposed to long read trash fud
2) We do not pay for trolling and fud. Our thread is self-moderating, dont waste your time
3) Full member+ rank to avoid newbies attack
4) No negative trust
5) We pay 0.003 BTC per post. Max 1 post per day
6) We decide to our own mind to pay or not

Example:

Constructive post, paid - This is a nice and lovely concept which will attract the audience but I think you guys should add football,baseball,basket ball etc to your game since this is an eSports gaming bet programme. In addition, there should be a sport bet where the person who want to bet set up his/her team or players and play with computer or human just like football manager game.

Non-constractive post, no payment - Looking forward to hearing more information about this. I kinda love your introducing of Round about eSports gaming platform. Actually, i am a big fan of LOL. Therefore, i definitely 100% support your project
I hope that Round will make some significant change in the gaming platform.

How to recive payment:

PM providing link to your post and BTC address. We will not respond to PM. If payment is not received you within 24 hours, that mean we consider your post are not constructive.

Thanks and you are welcome to discussion.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN]ROUND - CS:GO Competitive platform! ROUND IS WORKING! CHECK IT NOW! on: October 21, 2016, 09:48:30 PM


Update 3

We have been working for half a year, since then the main goal was to collect constructive criticism of the platform's work, what to improve, modify, develop, so that the user received a quality product. To motivate players to participate in product testing, tournaments and promos with prizes ranging from $500 to $ 2000 were held, during this time 520 people registered on the platform. People from completely different target audiences, and different levels of the game participated in CS: GO. Due to this we received criticism from different points of view, both beginners and professionals, it has become
clear what both of them need.


Rank system

Above all, it is important to introduce rank system, and distribute players depending on the level of the game in the corresponding leagues. It excludes the options when a weak player hits a strong one and starts to lose interest in the game, since there’s little chance to win. During the work of Betta many newcomers were registered, having participated several times in tournaments playing with strong players, they understood that there was no sense in continuing to play, and they stopped be active in the game. Having sorted the users according to the level of the game, their involvement and competitive effect will grow and the activity on the platform will accordingly increase.

 
Anti-cheats + GO TV

Next, it is necessary to install anti-cheats on the platform to quickly identify the player with an unfair game and put him on the blacklist. During the work of Betta, tournaments were held regularly (the basis of our marketing), we did not save on the prize money, which led to the desire of the players to use the codes for an easy victory in the tournament. Generally, cheating is one of the main problems that do not allow e-Sports to develop properly. Having explored the problem, we realized that the most effective solution at the moment is to integrate paid anti-cheat with continuous updating, and control of the players by platform administrators, through watching demo players. To do this, we will use GO TV, which will automatically record the user's demo game. The recording will be available right after the match, opponents and admins will have the opportunity to download the demo and explore the game. The recording will be automatically saved on the game server.


New game modes and maps

Everything is simple and easy: the more cards and modes the more interesting and fun, the variety and choice are always important. Correspondingly, modes 2x2, 3x3, 5x5 + new maps will be necessarily included in Update 3,(5х5 mode: Dust II, Cache, Nuke, Mirage, Train, Overpass, Cobblestone, Inferno; 2х2 mode: Shorttrain, Shortdust, St. Marc, Safehouse, Lake, Bank; 1х1 mode: aim_map2_go, aim_stw_ak47_m4a1, aim_1v1_usp, aim_map, awp_india, aim_usp) if there are still interesting locations that we did not include in the list, write to us, and we will add.


Server

After the release of Update 3, we are going to actively promote, develop, advertise the platform, there will be more registrations and activity, respectively, the load on the server will grow, we need to prepare the platform. We will solve this problem by moving to a more powerful server and changing the algorithm of platform interaction with game servers. We can carry the load of 500 or more games at a time.


Calculation module

Network Ether constantly releases updating, unfortunately this is not the case when the updating is simply automatically installed and everything works as before, in our case it is necessary to integrate the updating into the calculation module, which takes more time and money. We just need to prepare the system for the new modes, prescribe new algorithms. The calculation module is very important and should work without delays and errors. Many players who did not know what a crypto currency was, they were interested in the project because of this, as they realized in practice the advantage of this system.
 

There is much work on Update 3, the implementation will take 2 months, and approximate release date is November 1, 2017. At the time of development, all tournaments and promos will be canceled. At this stage, the product is not ready for mass use, and spending money on tournaments in 1x1 mode is not effective. The platform will be available in beta mode, you can play with friends or search for rivals on this forum or in Telegram channel. After the release of Update 3, the product will be ready for active PR, we will launch regular tournaments for players of different ranks, there will also be a promo for beginners, and referral programs. Thank you all for your activity and criticism, thanks to you we now know the way to move further in order to create a quality product and in the future to attract the attention of many e-Sports lovers.









By coins on Liqui.io

Round

We are pleased to announce that we have finished working on the beta version of our platform — app.roundcoin.org. Initially we planned to include Dota, but after long discussions and debates we decided to start with Counter-Strike. More engaging and competitive gameplay as well as quick matches (as opposed to Dota) will lay the foundation for a rapid launch of the Round platform. We did a lot of meticulous work, and if you would like to find out more about the development, contact us on Telegram channel.

We also would like to apologize for failing to inform the forum community about the development process. We just got so used to work for result and get feedback at least upon the release of beta version instead of shaking the air and boasting about how got its gonna get implemented. However, we do agree that we should dedicate more time to informing about the development process. On the other hand, this period formed a kind of a minimum price of Round tokens at the exchange which has to benefit the launch of the entire project. From now on we’re going to add daily updates in our Telegram.



Beta Version is Now Ready


So, the beta is up and running and users can already enjoy Counter-Strike 1vs1 for Round tokens in the de_aztec map for 10/15 minute matches. Once the match is done the winner will immediately get payout form our ETH smart contract. Minimum bet is 10 Rounds. You need to have a Steam account and setup MetaMask wallet to be able to play. Ste-by-step Tutorial is enclosed. We tried to keep things user-friendly and as simple as possible. Current beta simultaneously supports up to 20-25 online matches and boasts the scale up capacity of up to 100+ games online.

We’ve spent lots of time studying marketing tricks for our project. We’ve studied the experience of successful startups in gaming and related industries. Now we are pleased to announce that we’ve found the perfect way to promote the project: the entire Round marketing effort will be built around Tournaments with a guaranteed prize pool. We offer weekly, monthly and annual main event tournaments. Please note that we – the developers – are in possession of 16% of the tokens released (160 millions). We also would like to inform that not all ICO funds have been spent, which gives us a great foundation for further work, improvements and updates.




Since beta version of Round platform was launch passed 2 weeks. During this time, we have already collected the some feedback from users and outline key points for improvements.
The most important conclusion was that for gamers (although there are not many of them now, but we were able to attract really professional players) rather difficult to understand how exactly current version of the project work.

Most important case - installation and Metamask operations, paying Ether as fee for game bid, how to calculate this fees, how confirmations at blockchain works and how to track funds in blockexplorer. So everything that is associated with the blockchain - it is hard to understand for gamers. Also, even if user follow correct sequence of actions, Metamask bugging itself and it's hard to understanf what going on.

Realizing that gamers is main target audience for us, we decided to dramatically simplify described processes, sacrificing some decentralization features. This will undoubtedly accelerate promotion and adoption for gamers.


Metamask is no longer linked to our platform, so follow this tutorial to learn How to send tokens from your Metamask wallet to a new version of the platform, exchange or to your personal wallet




Tournaments as the Core of Marketing


Now let’s talk in details about tournaments. From today onward we will hold $500 prize tournaments each Sunday; $5,000 prize tournament on the last day of each month and, finally, the main event of the year will take place on July 15, 2017 with the stupendous prize pool of $100,000  (equivalent in Round tokens; price is determinated 1 hours before the tournament). Selection of players will be based on a simple principle — TOP 64 based on the amount of Round tokens for weekly tournaments, TOP 128 for monthly and TOP 256 for the Main Event (we reserve the right to change only the selection terms, while guaranteed prize pools are not subject to any revision. For that purpose we are planning to create a smart contract or a separate account with a multi-signature and transfer tokens there).

We believe that the tournaments will be able to attract the critical mass of users to the project quite quickly. Gamers will be able to monetize their skills – which actually was our priority.


MAIN EVENT

1. July 15, 2017. Top 256 players are allowed
2. The prize pool is 100 000 $ (Round tokens equivalent)
3. Prizes: 1 - 50 000 $, 2 - 20 000 $, 3 - 10 000 $, 4 $ - 5000, 5 - 2000 $, 6 - 1000 $, 7 - 600 $, 8-64 places  $ 200 each



Plans for the Future

Now, some thoughts on the upcoming development plans. Firstly, we want to collect feedback from users, work on certain interface elements and test the platform in real-life conditions. Thereafter we want to grow our clientele and continuously work on improving the project (based on Counter-Strike experience):

team games 5vs5;
option to select the game map;
option to bet on match results by observers (like a match played by famous team) and a part of observer’s bet will go into the winner’s prize pool. Achieving viral effect due to the interest of cyber-sportsmen in engaging loyal audience to watch their matches on Round platform;
continuous optimization and improvement of platform architecture.

And, last but not least, adding new games such as Dota, League of Legends, FIFA, and most importantly – new tournaments!



Technology

Based on Ethereum and being same as Firstblood such platform completely eliminates the dependence on third parties in determining the winner and paying the award in cybersports. The results will be processed quickly and securely. An interesting feature here is that the audience can bet on the outcome of games. Moreover, part of their bets will go to winner’s prize pool. Therefore, popular and prominent cybersports gamers can get extra reward from attracting attention to their game and audience can bet on the victory of their favorite player. In this case Round platform gets viral promotion effect. The project monetisation - fees.

Unlike in existing platforms all transactions in Round will be publicly audited, hackproof and not subjected to the risks of centralized processing. And last but not least, there’s no financial regulation. The results of each game will be automatically pulled directly from gaming servers and supervised by the so-called oracles that are selected randomly to reconcile the results. This will eliminate the risk of fraud.



Solution

Round project aims at joining the competitive environment of cybersports platforms by virtue of unique opportunities it offers. Overall, cybersports is an actively developing sector comprising millions of users competing in online games. Round represents the combination of elements of gambling (playing for money) and competition element. Similar pattern in observed in a poker game.

We believe that eSports tournaments for money with decentralized intermediary are a promising trend that provides a solution to a real problem and has all the chances for success. The project development will be funded by developers. Because there’s already been some interest on the part of business angels there’s a possibility of investments in the nearest future. The project will be handled by a team of developers from Russia.

This thread was created to inform community about Round. Stay updated and let's start a constructive discussion.





GO GO GO
4  Economy / Speculation / Poll: What will happen on 7/26/16 on: September 28, 2015, 04:57:35 PM
What will happen?
5  Economy / Auctions / 8 Japanese Rubber Band Gun Auction (Includes USA shipping and 1% escrow) on: September 28, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
http://imgur.com/HiuaDIF
http://imgur.com/kflrocV
http://imgur.com/gDFuGZW
http://imgur.com/Wvq2iGJ

Starting bid is 0.4 BTC. Minimum bidding increments of 0.01 BTC.
Ends in about 5 days (10/3/15 on Saturday 5pm Easturn (USA time)

Hello, I went to Japan for a trade show and pick up 10 of these rubber band guns. I gave away 2 and wanted to auction the rest off (8 left). I have them in hand.

They are plastic and new (I opened 1 to take the picture and cut open the pack of screws, so 7 brand new and 1 opened and screw bag cut but not used).

The auction price includes USA shipping only and a 1% escrow (If you chose not to escrow, the 1% comes off your purchase price, but I prefer you use the 1% towards a reputable escrow (we both agree on in the end) in case you are worried about me scamming you).

I am looking for escrows.
Potential escrows, please post in this forum with your stipulations (1% offered in this auction, but if you want more, bidder has to pay difference).

Private message me for trade offers (you would have to ship first and I will wait to receive) or buy it now offers via PM or post in comment section.

For international bidders outside the USA, please make an offer since shipping overseas is very expensive.

Thanks
6  Economy / Speculation / Poll: Price January 2016 on: January 05, 2015, 07:12:10 PM
1 year speculation, comments appreciated.

two fiddy

I guess you win the prize so far Elwar (if you mean $250 for "two fiddy".)  Although we are not quite to February yet.  I hope my conservative estimate of $1200 still stands but it is looking less likely. Sad

Let's hope I meant $250 and not $2.50


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=454842.60
Elwar was right
7  Economy / Speculation / Poll: What price won't it be next year on: September 04, 2014, 03:45:25 AM
Poll: What price won't it be next year
8  Economy / Speculation / Poll: Approaching 1 year anniversary (October/November 2013) on: September 02, 2014, 12:41:20 AM
Comments added to the poll.

Thanks for the heads up Chef Ramsay (I changed to another video)
9  Economy / Speculation / Poll: Which will have the greatest effect on btc? on: August 30, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
Comments to be added.

response to HarHarHar9965:
I kept thinking about changing the nothing can save it option. I should have just put nothing. Too late to change it now Wink
10  Economy / Speculation / Poll: September on: August 29, 2014, 10:07:32 AM
Comments added to poll.
11  Economy / Speculation / Poll: Would you freeze yourself until bitcoin global adoption (reddit article) on: August 18, 2014, 03:48:07 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2dsvku/i_had_enough_i_want_to_be_cryogenically_preserved/

response to mellnik without bumping thread:
I see I have 2 votes. I think you clicked view results (shows 0%) or not logged in etc. Not sure what else it could be (help from others about this would be appreciated)

response to calim:
that makes sense, thanks for clearify-ing
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Poll: What happens when the blockchain size gets too big? on: August 14, 2014, 11:37:53 PM
Many people have discussed this recently and what do you think will happen? (comments added to the poll)
13  Economy / Speculation / Can the number of coins surpass 21 million? on: August 06, 2014, 11:35:25 PM
I read 2 different people mention that developers might be able to increase the amount of coins (via patch). If this is a possibility, what would the outcome be?

I always wondered why 21 million was the limit. Did that number mean something to original developers? If they knew it would take off, would the limit be 200 million or something (to anticipate the rise?)

Thoughts appreciated.
14  Economy / Speculation / Poll: What can lead to the end of bitcoin? on: August 01, 2014, 12:36:20 PM
Add a comment so I can add it to the poll
15  Economy / Speculation / Poll: August on: July 23, 2014, 11:56:40 PM
Augusto! Grin
16  Economy / Speculation / Is fonzie right? on: July 22, 2014, 04:05:57 PM
Bids on Stamp look healthy. 700 BTC to 620$ ; 3000 BTC to 610$. Ready to lift off. We also have a very similar fractal compared with the 430$ breakout.


TO THE MOON

Is fonzie right?... I can't believe I am saying this  Grin
17  Economy / Speculation / Is wobber wrong? on: July 18, 2014, 05:37:52 PM
I originally made the "Is wobber right?" thread because I genuinely believed he was on the right track.

Now that I reconsider, there might be a possibility that he might be a little off. August may come and go, but I think September has a possibility of touching the previous ATH (or close enough).

With the news of Dell, Newegg, NYC regulation etc, who knows what the next few months may bring.

Time will pass, August will come and go, September will come and go and the price won't even be 1000 again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686745.20
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Message to Wobber: Thanks for being a good sport by responding to my previous thread numerous times (indicating that you understood that I made the thread to start speculation on your quote).

Again, I like that you speak your mind, even though it is not the most popular opinion and lets see what people comment on here  Grin
18  Economy / Speculation / Is wobber right? on: July 14, 2014, 03:24:21 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686745.20
Time will pass, August will come and go, September will come and go and the price won't even be 1000 again.

Summer is coming to an end and if anything might happen (ETF, SecondMarket), that might take until late 2014 or into 2015.

Thoughts.

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By the way Wobber, I read all your comments and by your join date (2010), you really have seen a lot in bitcoinland. I respect your thoughts (trolling or not) and this thread is not to bash you (mostly having fun with a new post title).

I just wanted to see if people agreed with your quote, because it is starting to become a possibility.
19  Economy / Speculation / Poll: August/September on: July 12, 2014, 01:04:43 AM
I take most my posts from comments etc, and from the wall observer and a few other posts, a few bring some good points about a possible August or September rally.

Some say the bear market is over a few weeks could further cement the expected rally. Others think more time is needed. Thoughts appreciated.

also, let me know if you like my polls (I made a July 24th poll and it had almost 900 views and like 13 comments).
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Brock Pierce Announces Dollar-backed Cryptocurrency ‘Realcoin’ on: July 09, 2014, 03:18:27 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/brock-pierce-announces-dollar-backed-cryptocurrency-realcoin/

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/08/dollar-backed-digital-currency-aims-to-fix-bitcoins-volatility-dilemma/

Could a US dollar backed crypto work?
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