I have a really aggravating user interface issue on tv and I just wondered if any fellow crypto tv users would recognize the difference in the size of the indicator settings menu where you input numbers and so forth, it is normally very small text, and I have many settings on my custom indicator, but now it is stuck with this long long scrolling and large text and spacing/padding.

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Has anyone noticed that binance has gotten really good at catching vpn users? Have you had this happen to you? Do you know of better ways to avoid it with your browser and vpn settings? Have you been able to use FTX for that matter?

It refuses to be found in any browser for anything like shapeshift or MEW. Or at least it does so inconsistently. I've gotten it to be recognized on kyberswap and some other random sites. But I had to manually select the ledger live ethereum hd derivatiion path in opera browser to get myetherwallet to recognize it and that's the only browser that worked, It wouldn't even recognize it in the desktop application of Guarda wallet. I don't get it. I can't get it to work on shapeshift in any browser, very frustrating. It's something to do with ledgerlive and windows 7 and these browsers. Ive updated firmware etc. What makes it seem weird is the inconsistency with it working on some sites and some browsers. Very confusing. I think it's related to the hd derivation path not being specified or something.

who uses these bots? I could always use ideas and another opinion to bounce off of to test out these tedious syntax rules. Can't figure out how to use the label function in profitview

Bybit as an exchange is just weird. Like the order rules and options for placing orders are great on mex and deribit, but bybit just is doing very odd things. I can't even manually put stop entries above the strike on bybit, they auto cancel when they are triggered. It doesn't make any sense. And autoview doesn't have stop entries integrated properly either. Bybit's API rejects normal stop sells or anything addressed as a stop loss take profit unlike mex and deribit, and only allows you to assign those variables at the beginning order, and only if the beginning entry order is at the strike, which is stupid as hell. I have a strong incentive to use bybit, it might be the only choice soon. So I need help with this.

It's like bybit is set up to rake in market fees. You can't do a proper stop limit entry which is absolute bullshit.

I've been working on a strategy that essentially briefly spams post only orders around the spread to get more fills. Rebates can be highly lucrative in crypto compared to legacy. What I don't understand perhaps is the way they give priority to people in line in the que, as in whether I get my order filled before people who placed orders *after* me , at the same order. I've wondered if bybit or mex engage in any funny business about giving certain people priority status in line, as in they always stay at the front of the line and get the maker order filled and retail noobs get pushed to the back.

I've had some astonishingly good results on derbit testnet gettng rebate orders filled with my technique, but the liquidty in the market dried up and the testnet broke again and now im lookign at the bybit testnet and it is just terrible too, even more terrible. It will fill every order but mine and my test order of 300 contracts just sits there holding up the spread. It really doesn't make any sense.

I would love to hear from traders on how easily they get their maker orders filled on any of these exchanges. 15% round trip s far far too high a fee, and the rebates are far more lucrative than i ever believed theeyd be, often doubling my profits.which should give you an idea as to how devestating even casino like these fees are. Fees in all of crypto, coinbase and cashapp included are absolutely criminal.

I'm beginning to notice that usa citizen don't have options as a trader. Kraken is deeply illiquid from what I saw on the charts today, and coinbase has insurmountable fees. We've been banned from everything and kicked off everything. Krakens fees are too high also unless you are churning a several thousand dollar position a dozen times a day you can get a volume discount (which would work for me) but its pointless without the liquidity.

I honestly don't know where people trade at anymore, or how a us citizen even could effectively trade in this market with all the options we've had taken from us.

First off, the real issue at hand is that there hasn't ever been this level of wallstreet involvement in the price. Even though it's controversial and people deny it, there is an extreme case to be made that wallstreet is using derivatives through naked short selling and dilution of the real 21 million supply to hold price down, and AND they are deliberately consolidating mining, bank rupting mining. AND Bitmain is generally a bad actor, doing shady things with the upcoming new ASIC models, using planned obsolescence to bankrupt miners.

The technicals are pretty broad with a case to be made that we could see 2k or we could just take off right from here to 30k. The idea is that we are finishing a macro multi year corrective zigzag or flat, and that 20,000$ was the multi year 5th wave, and we are going to start a new multi year impulse somewhere in between 2k and 14k that could go to 100k+ so while people get ultra butt hurt about 2 to 14k, the idea is we are *finishing* a multi year bear market and starting a banana nut crazy bull market.

Andreas Antonopolis says that he thinks the uliminted risk to the upside associated with wallstreet naked short selling the supply will put a limit on how abusive they can b e with rehypothecation. But we have some very very bad actors in the space.

Basically how long can they suppress price? How bad is China manipulation going to get?

I *think* raw demand and technical break throughs combined with the halvening should start the new bull market in spring 2020. Lightning network and regulatory clarity, investor onboarding in Asia. That's the idea I suppose, as bad as wallstreet is, that is the idea behind fidelity and ameritrade, is to get people to buy and hold physical btc. So a lot of the wait is on sharding, lightning, retail adoption, and legal clarity for custodianship.

But the elephant in the room is that we have some really bad actors in the space. The CFTC couldn't controll the price manipulation that occursif it wanted to. Bitcoin just isn't that controllable. Not like a normal asset.

Rouge Hedge funds, quant firms (including Alameda) and Bitmain, The chinese government, the us government, and the CME and BAKKT themselves are absolutely criminally influencing price. And I fear the rehypothecation is going to really really hurt btc.

We as a community really have to start talking about the negative effect these quant firms and the CME are having, and devising better plans to keep PHYSICAL demand for btc up

The business development and technological development and mainstreaming, adoption and integration fundamentals have never literally never been as good as they are now. We've even come lightyears in progress on the financial rights and legal development framework for the crypto economy.

And yet the 100,000 ton Brontosaurus in the room are several things that are most likely keeping the price down and most likely responsible for manipulation and keeping it suppressed.

-The US Gov is fundamentally a bad actor in the space. It doesn't cooperate with the rest of the world, exerts itself, and overbears in regulation, primarily to support the CME

-The CME is going to commit accounting fraud and naked short sell bitcoin as it has since 2017 to suppress the price. The CME is perpetually bearish and this is what the US gov wants. This is what wallstreet legacy finance want. They are hoarding, centralizing, and rehypothecatiing the price, and centralizing the mining, and contributing to the centralization of the mining.

-Wallstreet institutions are intentionally bankrupting miners to take over the mining space.

-The Financial sector/class/US regulators want to punish and put out of business existing exchanges (except coinbase) and existing miners and give the space over to an appointed monopoly run by institutions like Fidelity.

-They plan to do great harm to the space with The Bank Secrecy Act and FinCen



In short Wallstreet is hijacking the network and turning it into digital full KYC banking, with even less rights than a bank and less fungibility and integrity than holding gold at a money manager.

It's not FUD to deal with the legal realities of your entire industry. You treat it like a religion and you'll go bankrupt.

Just about no one on this subreddit understands Rehypothecation, the CME, or the price suppression of Gold and Silver and what the US has done to it the last 30 years. You don't understand geopolitics, and you think somehow bitcoin is invincible and magically different. You refuse to deal with the facts and paint any legal complexity as FUD. These are the same people who held altcoins 97% down. This is why Wallstreet is taking over.

It's absolutely ludicrous to call normal legal rammifications in the industry you work in FUD. You can't call legal obligations and realities and policies that you are forced to participate in FUD. Any industry that treated normal law and rule of law as FUD would completely crash. It's a broke retail mindset. At least I can say the Marijuana sector is drastically more legally intelligent and legally proactive about showing up and representing the matters, including the average investor, who tend to be drastically more sophisticated than crypto,. All I'm saying is they are mature and they deal with the realities. The crypto crowd is predominantly not cypherpunk, not sophisticated, and engages in evangelical religious like 'belief' in arbitrary price targets. It's not helping the industry.



The Asian's have the volume yet they don't control the price, the US does, why is that? It's because of law. Wallstreet has the legal framework to dictate the price. Very little western retail participation and representation legally, causes a situation where Wallstreet gets to largely dictate the entire environment of bitcoin, while Chinese miners ruthlessly dump the price. The run up in June was a Chinese Ponzi,. Had it not happened, the CME would have kept the price under 7k. The average american retail investor is literally relying upon the US governmentto open up bitcoin to pensions to make the price go up. And I'm telling you that is a fools errand.



The US is not the good guy in this situation. What we want is for the global south and Asia to mass buy bitcoiin. We want users, bodies, real people, not institutions.

I feel like Rehypothecation is the biggest threat to btc. If you understand that it is how the us gov and wallstreet ruined the ability of gold and silver price discovery as a price weapon as a political weapon, than you realize that it is going to do the same thing to bitcoin.

The CME just asked to double the supply of paper contracts leading up to halving and the Baakkt just introduced cash settled, and Options are coming.

Rehypothecation and the Banking Secrecy Act are the 100,000 ton brontosaurus in the room no one wants to talk about, the biggest threat to bitcoin besides the targeting of developers.

If you even have any money, if you even run some sort of business with crypto or have significant savings in it, then my posts apply. If you have nothing to lose because you don't have anything and want to post salty subcomments, then you know you might be part of the problem.

I'm politically anarchist for what' it's worth. But my point is, crypto and btc users are going to have to use their damn electoral politics, their actual representation and federal representatives. If we raised as much hell as legacy finance, if we spent the lobbying money they spent, if we didn't just lay back and take it, the regulators wouldn't be able to go this unchallenged.

The biggest issue stems from the US using the dollar as a political weapon and having a framework in the treasury department for infringing everyone everywhere's rights with overreaches in the patriot act and AML laws. I saw an article in cointelgraph asking if lawmakers are using AML as an excuse to centralize the industry

*YES THATS WHAT THEY ARE DOING, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT AND TO ENRICH THEIR WALLSTREET INSIDE TRADING FRIENDS*

Had people here read the FATF papers on bitcoin in June, I wouldn't get the smarm. If your LIVELIHOOD depends on crypto, YOU NEED TO READ THAT FATF PAPER. DO IT.

The treasury departments goal is to ultimately make bitcoin not bitcoin. They want to treat it as something that isn't fungible and isn't interchangeable in address, something that isn't peer to peer cash, emphasize on cash. They are struggling to do this,so they are going to be sneaky about it and attack the integrity of the network incrementally with regulations. They are asking bitcoin to be something it literally isn't and cannot be.

In order to do this they will have to go after third party wallet and hardware wallet providers and exchanges. They will have to create a gardened system that taints and tracks bitcoin in such a way, that it is bound to you like a bad case of fleas, ultimately debanking people, ratting them out to creditors. You basically lose all the aspects of bitcoin with NONE of the privacy of an actual real bank account. So as soon as someone Dox's you and your wallet amount that the feds have hoisted upon you, they can just come beat you to death in your house and take it (the hackers, but the feds certainly love to do that to people who wrong them aswell).

The IRS is profoundly unfair towards crypto. Refuses to give it commodity taxation or security taxation, no exemptions, no 475, no QBI. If you trade crypto on coinbase and live in San diego County you have a 50% tax rate FIFTY   PERCENT. In texas is you trade crude oil futures, you have a 27% tax rate.

All you hear from the alphabet bois everyday are threats, threats, and more threats.   Call your representatives and start fighting back. It' s not about bribing and lobbying, it's about the normal democratic process and holding public servants accountable and reminding them they are public servants.


People are just being naive.


I mean sure, if you like Bitcoin staying under 5000 dollars in perpetuity for pure wallstreet speculation. That's always the same attitude "We don't need to use normal politics, we don't need to apply normal finance policy to ourselves, politics doesn't apply, the government can't touch me or us, our haxor friends will develop more elusive things" and on and on and on.... more naive things

Walllstreet and the intelligence agency and treasury are openly threatening, promising, and ensuring a hostile takeover and perversity of the network. Because they are pragmatic, live in and of the world, and are gaming it, and doing as the world does, while you all choose to live in fantasy land in a perpetual libertarian meme. That's not how the real world works.

You're going to have to hold the government accountable just the 98% of the population who aren't libertarian do. If you do nothing, they will stomp it all into the ground. But I guess the libertarian meme culture of Bitcoin and political ignorance makes people think they can get away with being apolitical without consequences and somehow the alphebet bois won't just obliterate all of this into pure uselessness.

Do you really think you're going to compete with the US dollar by being apolitical? Mnuchin made a threat against bitcoin for trying to compete with the US Dollar.

Normies aren't going to use monero. I wish I could wake up tomorrow and everyone would be an outlaw and a monero advocate. IT's not going to happen. It's not.



Government officials have to be held accountabile, and if you are apolitical and apathetic and uninvolved, wallstreet will make the decisions for you, they will buy out and sell out bitcoin wholesale, as they are currently doing. The CME and paper contract watering down is the beginning of that process, where they will suppress price and cripple miners exactly like they have done silver and gold.

America runs this shit. It controls bitcoin, it controls gold, it controls the world.

I listened to Andreas recently and he is absolutely correct. Unfortunately there is a great danger on the horizon against bitcoin. Just as bitcoin was designed to be a parallel system to global finance, the top country are plotting to make bitcoin separated into two systems, a black market of unbanked criminalized innocent citizen, and a and this is truly teh key argument

A parallel white market system where you truly do not own the keys, where your software and hardware wallets are backdoored with KYC and surveillance and your addresses are declared to the intelligence and tax agencies and you have no real privacy, safety, fungibility, or immutability.

They will do this by legally persecuting Ledger Nano and Trezor and criminalizing and regulating every centralized exchange on the FATF list. They will treat anyone that they see unfit for western finance the way they treat Iran. The United States is categorically opposed to cross border payments to anyone in the world. They will not stop until they geofence bitcoin into such a corner that you are unable to truly own your keys, destroying the purpose of crypto. Your KYC data will be leaked, your safety will be jeopardized, and any negative turn of events in civil liberties in Europe and the USA and Canada and Australia will put you in jeopardy because they will have your keys and your address.

The Japanese and Taiwanese just made a backdoored Hardware wallet that rejects transactions that cannot pass KYC certification on both sides.

They made a hardware wallet that doesn't allow unpermitted state compliant transactions. This HW does not truly belong to you, it belongs to the state, just like your legacy finance banking account

We all need to start initiating the process of suing G20 countries in the supreme court of the united states, international courts in Brussels and the Hague and EU parliament. They must be stood up to preemptively. They will incrementally take your civil liberties away.

I watched this video with crypto tip girl interviewing the DX Developer. He said he has spoken to DYDX about margin. I'm not a developer but I'm really interested in a totally fully decentralized leverage exchange. I think it's possible.

Primarily through
-distributed virtual machines processing distributed liqudity nodes that people host, an internet of liquidity so to speak, both small and large users, hosting/staking a nodes.

-A layer two layer similar to omni layer and lightning network could use something like xrouter to transfer the information related to clearing, margining, risk, and settlement on lightning like nodes.

-A lightning swap like function could help with the cross chain atomic swaps of various chains into btc, with the nodes calculating the orders in btc and delivering them back out as atomic swaps to respective chains/coins.

-And of course X router would deal with the order matching in various ways.

It's an internet of blockchains, all interoperable using oracles. They just integrated the siacoin api. This distributed storage is very critical for security of storage and unsiezable domains.

The developer specified a few things, and I will add mine. There are at least a dozen, but I'll name some.

-decentralized orderbook
-decentralized order matching
-decentralized liquidity
-decentralized domain
-decentralized settlement
-decentralized computing
-decentralized storage
-decentralized custodianship

I've gotten to a point where I am so threatened and unhappy with the regulatory situtation driving and banning American from exchanges that I really want to send letters to representatives. I was ignored by the SEC and CFTC.

Who are some representatives who are pro crypto that you are aware of, can you list them here?

I believe we as a group, as the domestic US market, need to actively write and bombard these guys with complaints about the foreign exchanges banning us. We need to start demanding sandboxed regulation exemptions for crypto exchanges to offer to US clients. The CEO of Circle Pay is right, his testimony is right.

The Gov is using the most draconian interpretation of forex regulation, security regulation, and property taxation to incoherently hyper regulate and mis regulate with no clear cohesion crypto as a legacy finance instrument, and it's causing the foreign market to broad sail ban Americans, and American exchanges are leaving, we are losing support for this as an industry. These representatives need to step up.

I watched this video with crypto tip girl interviewing the DX Developer. He said he has spoken to DYDX about margin. I'm not a developer but I'm really interested in a totally fully decentralized leverage exchange. I think it's possible.

Primarily through
-distributed virtual machines processing distributed liqudity nodes that people host, an internet of liquidity so to speak, both small and large users, hosting/staking a nodes.

-A layer two layer similar to omni layer and lightning network could use something like xrouter to transfer the information related to clearing, margining, risk, and settlement on lightning like nodes.

-A lightning swap like function could help with the cross chain atomic swaps of various chains into btc, with the nodes calculating the orders in btc and delivering them back out as atomic swaps to respective chains/coins.

-And of course X router would deal with the order matching in various ways.

It's an internet of blockchains, all interoperable using oracles. They just integrated the siacoin api. This distributed storage is very critical for security of storage and unsiezable domains.

The developer specified a few things, and I will add mine. There are at least a dozen, but I'll name some.

-decentralized orderbook
-decentralized order matching
-decentralized liquidity
-decentralized domain
-decentralized settlement
-decentralized computing
-decentralized storage
-decentralized custodianship

Well I've raised hell everywhere, sent organizations letters. I don't know if any of you know anyone, but I'll at least say, hey if you are on the inside scoop, tell these assholes that they are ruining the US crypto scene by nanny stating it to death and banning everything.

The obsession the SEC and CFTC have with banning alt coins and margin trading is imbicilic and frankly at best somewhat suits alpha returns on wallstreet but ultimately it just makes the united states so utter shit and uncompetitive and undesirable to offshore juridictions that the industry is just going to throw the middle finger to the united states.

It's immensely infuriating to see virtually every country except the ones we are busying sanctioning and bombing being able to get rich off crypto and being able to innovate and get alpha return and generally operate unencumbered, and especially the damn leverage trading.

You can go on about alt coins or whatever, but I'll tell you straight up, I can make more money trading forex and crude oil futures hell even live hog futures than I can trading spot bitcoin. You ain't making money with spot bitcoin dude, get real.

It's a real identity crisis for me, my identity is tied up in crypto twitter and crypto technical analysis, 24/7 trading, the hours. Just the fact that I can't trade when I want to on finance legacy is goddamn infuriating. The money is in legacy finance once I get banned from everything and KYCd to oblivion, but my heart sure as hell isn't.

The developer of Blocknet actually said i n  a video that he has spoken to another dex called DYDX and he would really like to incorporate margin into a DEX. The future should be 100% decentralized open source margin trading.

I actually have some idea of how this could be done. But I encourage you to reach out and advocate to developers to check out projects like DYDX and Blocknet.

I am trying to find one with a physical branch in every state, because I will be a full time traveler, but it seems the big banks are the ones openly hostile and rightly determined to ban transactions. Ally Bank doesnt allow money orders on its mobile deposit.

I *think* charles scwabb allows mobile money order deposits, and I was told that Fidelity and Charles Scwabb are crypto friendly with not banning deposits etc

Are there any other branches that might possibly have physical branches in most states?

I nearly had a heart attack when I saw that bitmex is being probed by the CFTC today.

I'm wasting my time writing these legal posts in the hope that more informed proffessional people on this forum will see it and pass word along to people who are connected and capable of lobbying.

The retail noobs who think regulations in crypto are good are just profoundly ignorant to international security and derivative law and american aml kyc law and the history of forex and Dodd Frank and what America did to the forex industry for forex traders.

If people in America do not lobby and fight congress they are going to plow crypto into submission the way they did forex, they are going to ban alt coins and ban leverage to such a draconian extent that no unrich american will be able to adequately benefit from the global market in crypto. They are going to make the regulatory barrier so high, that it is impossible to make money in crypto unless you trade like the top 10 main coins on spot. That is unacceptable, and a gross oversight of the American government, but please go on about how terrible bitmex is and how you want daddy government to step in and super regulate every other country in the world until you are perpetually stuck in minimum wage jobs or forced into the futures or marijuana market. You have no idea how powerful and dangerous the American regulators really are. Underestimating them is profoundly dangerous.

Decentralized Derivatives
I'll preface this first off as usual with admonishment towards people who dislike derivatives. Derivatives are not inherently bad, they are in fact necessary, to think otherwise is financial ignorance. Comingling, rehypothecation, and accounting fraud are bad, and it can be prevented with the blockchain. Don't push bad investing and trading skills onto a market that needs infrastructure.



The big issue is that there will be continued abuses by states and governments attempting to censor and commit fraud and otherwise political and financial repression and unequal laws against the poor by centralizing the derivative market. It is how predatory finance capitalism in America is largely able to control people (the world). Because it is centralized.



Next you have platforms like Kraken that do offer some margin capabilities, but you have extreme counter party risk. Kraken can take your money based off of any stupid pretense, and you are trading against them instead of peer to peer like bitmex. You don't own your keys.



The direction that layer 2 solutions are going in, combined with federated side chains and innovations on top of binance's new chain such as with Thorchain are a much more sensible outcome in the long run. I'll try to explain a few of these technologies

A) Thorchain is probably the most promising since it rewards liquidity nodes on the network and plans to integrate multiple chains and lightning network while using binance chain to jump start the initial dex offering.

b) Tradelayer is a layer 2 solution from the omni layer developer that can be adapted to meet regulations and KYC if absolutely necessary, but allows for non KYC liquidity nodes, and being layer 2 means its definitely proposed to interact with lightning network. It functions similarly to lightning, performing the computation needed for margining and settlement similarly to the many exchanges offchain with lightning.

c) RSK bitcoin smart contracts which will basically enhance anything operating a DEX with liquidity nodes and the need for complex smart contracts.

d) Virtual machines with Ren VM that can process smart contracts and link together liquidity provider



Those are just a few. But with Ren and Liquid swap, they are still largely proprietary and deliberately facilitating corporate clients. This is what bitcoin needs to move away from. We need open source solutions that will perform liquid swaps functions for the masses, for retail.