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Monero.in
XMR.in
Both for 5999 xmr
Offers also invited
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I was thinking that people who follow Islam must be really dumb to follow such a pathetic religion.
Can we effectively say that 22% of the worlds population is dumb??
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ill give you a brand new, fully working edu mail for 4$ each
Payment in Monero only
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https://www.coingecko.com/enCoingecko is much better at ranking coins than Coinmarketcap They use far greater number of factors to rank than CMC's single retarded formula of Current supply * Current Price This site is a much more accurate computation of a coin's popularity and impact
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The market cap was around 170, now 88 ?
Price halved in a single day?
Is this the start of unsurprising inevitable dump?
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Time to exercise your voting rights people
Cast your votes - ( Result to be announced after voting ends )
If your opinion changes, you can change your vote too
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Bill C-51 was introduced at the end of January, and sets out to extend Canada’s anti-terror laws beyond legislation the then-Liberal government implemented just after 9/11.
The bill, though, is not just about terrorism. It’s about granting greater powers to police authorities to target activities that could “undermine the security of Canada” as well as activities that are detrimental to Canada’s interests. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/bill-c-51-for-dummies-233750439.html |
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I see a lot of talk about Monero not having an official GUI wallet. Here's what people say - 1. Monero devs cant write code, they are incompetent 2. Monero cant even get a GUI after an year The TruthAs this is brand new tech, some time is needed to get things working. This is NOT a Bitcoin based code like 99.9% of the coins. We dont have the Bitcoin QT to just copy from and make some changes. Things have to be written from scratch. As a fact the devs had started on the GUI 9 months back Below: the dashboard tab.  Here is the link to the actual was in development wallet photos - goo.gl/5hksrX
So what happened in these 9 months, why dont we have that damn GUI ? The devs moved the GUI to a much lower priority. They need to fix serious stuff first. They are not going to push eye candy to pump the price only to dump it. They are doing things which will affect Monero years after They are making Monero ready for the future The current priorities and goals are here - https://getmonero.org/design-goals/ As you can see the GUI implementation has been moved very low in the list, so dont expect it very soon, maybe this year. Here is what fluffy has to say about it - Saying that a well-designed, intuitive, easily-used Graphical User Interface doesn't matter is simply ridiculous. I realize that fluffypony had a specific issue that he was making a point about when he wrote what he did regarding adoption, business integration, and the GUI.
However, a well-designed, intuitive, and easily-used Graphical User Interface are crucial for the success of virtually any piece of software or hardware in today's day and age.
Why is Apple so successful? I would argue that their GUI's, combined with the hardware to properly utilize the potential of their GUI's, is the entire basis of their success. Sure, marketing and reputation have been vital, but without good-looking GUI's their marketing department would be trying to put lipstick on a pig.
Why is Windows more popular than Linux? Linux is free, Windows costs money. Shouldn't people run the free OS more often? Windows is easily used. Linux has come a long way, but it inevitably requires substantially more effort for the average person.
If the Monero GUI can make the slope of the learning curve so easy to climb that Your Mom Can Use It, it will be vital in propelling the success of XMR that all of us are so eager to witness.
I hope it's been demonstrated with MyMonero that we know a thing or two about UX and simplicity, and that will translate to the GUI. That said, it's simply not acceptable for us (to echo your words) to put lipstick on a pig and ship a GUI that is pleasant enough, but takes 4 days to sync from scratch, requires 6+gb of RAM, sucks a ton of bandwidth, and is accepted nearly nowhere. We will deliver a proverbial work of art, but it requires building out parts of the foundation that we had previously viewed as less of a priority (until the 202612 attack). Oh, and we're doing it on like no money, so there's that. And do you know Monero development is entirely voluntary? Yes, development is funded ONLY by donations because Monero has no premine/instamine. Monero devs are mostly paying out of their own pockets to develop an open source software. They dont have 1000's of BTC's from IPO/ICO's To help development, please consider donating - XMR address (OpenAlias) donate.getmonero.org
address (full) 46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8aHYjA3jk3o1Bv16em
viewkey: e422831985c9205238ef84daf6805526c14d96fd7b059fe68c7ab98e495e5703 BTC1FhnVJi2V1k4MqXm2nHoEbY5LV7FPai7bb |
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So the Isador review Shadow guys were so proud of is finally out and with some very bad(worse) news -
Good evening each and everyone and first of all please forgive me for my English.
I am excited to see such a large community here on this forum I head so much about for such a long time, I didn't know there were so many people interested in "ShadowCash"!
To introduce myself I have worked multiple large scale cryptography projects in the past ranging from searching the zp to the nth category k factors based largely on second tier unknown quantities or as cryptographers call them 'phantom proofs'. This is very difficult to achieve and yet we spend most of our time finding and patching weaknesses in attempts for so called safe unbreakable fail safe systems to protect privacy and heighten general security on all manner of platforms for a whole range of purposes. I do "code" in many other languages and even take on freelance work as a part of my revenue source.
Introduction out the way and I'll just quickly apologise for not being public before, here in my home office in Germany it's not evident to see the popularity of the task before me. Apologies hopefully accepted and hope everybody understands I am doing this on a voluntary basis although I was kindly gifted 5 Bitcoin (Satoshis work is which I am secretly passionate about and I could not turn down the offer to look into another cryptocurrency).
A few months ago I was contacted by a representative from ShadowCash and asked to shed some light on the whitepaper called "ShadowCash" anonymity using NIZKs.
It took me quite some time to get used to the document and if I may say, it was missing a lot of information.
Working with occasional correspondence with Ryno whilst he informed me he was on business leave the last few months has been very informative although perhaps for this community not as fast as people would like. I have received several requests to post here on this forum and so I feel it is a good idea to share the discoveries sooner rather than later.
Also this was another reason for not posting I was advised was not to worry people as Ryno and Technovert could get problems patched before releasing the findings.
So far when first I began to review the whitepaper I was very curious as to how they had suddenly been able to achieve something that people had spent many many man hours trying to do. All this from developers with NO technical or professional cryptography background.
Needless to say, after the first week I found some major discrepancies... elements of trusted introduction to the shadow token system and elements of traceability using numerical hypothesis and statistical flooding of the blockchain to return sensitive data combined with pattern recognition, let's just say in it's current form each and every shadow token is easily traced within a reasonable budget and intelligence.
This is not to say that the system can't be improved, in fact it can, but if Ryno and Techno listen to my advice they should start afresh with completely new code.
If they decide to stick to the current code I will help them out but it will be a very long process, perhaps years to acheive anything resembling monero levels or anonymity.
I looked into the monero ring signature system and they have something that is far more advanced than the ShadowCash ring signature setup, although I have to commend the team for making this possible on the bitcoin codebase, however it is my duty to state it is not as strong as cryptonote technology.
I will lend my services to try and patch up ShadowCash for as long as possible as I'm passionate about the "end game" scenario.
Any questions and for more detailed answers please send me a pm and I'll be happy to answer questions.
Needless to say, ShadowCash is DEAD
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Dash Corporation headed by CEO Evan Duffield has been found to be involved in another major SCAM The corporations foundation chairman, Masternode has apparently been found to sharing privileged information with associates to gain favour and insider tips
I really don't have much to say, but I guess I need to reply to some of the diatribe coming from Masternode who I will refer to as Ed from here on (director of the Darkcoin Foundation he is so proud of). Much of this has already been covered at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699278.msg10722912#msg10722912. Ed is just sore because I cut him out of my confidence and when he tried to scare me into submission, I didn’t play ball. He has admitted to trading on the privileged information he had (and tries to justify it as being OK because the “markets are unregulated”, just what you’d expect from someone without any moral compass), so I don't really know what more to say. Who do you really think the "conman" is he is referring to? Projection is a bitch. Obviously, he is someone who trades information with his friends and associates to gain favour (and get reciprocal insider tips). It's clear he is trying to divert attention away from the fact viacoin isn’t performing as he promised those he advised based on his "insider knowledge". But that's what happens if you are dishonourable and leaky. The funny thing is he used to get offended every time I went to discuss something or get some advice that I would repeat "promise you wont share this". My reason for discussing things with him was because he had convinced me he was experienced, was well connected and trying to help the project and could give me good advice and assistance, something I was obviously excited about because I am “just a dev”. Otherwise I’d have no reason to discuss anything with anyone unless they are directly involved. Ed is clearly a vengeful man making good on his threats to me to make it so I "never work in this space again" and make things "get ugly" (referring to price). He's pursuing an agenda of accusations, twisting fact and conveniently forgetting details of conversations that don’t help his cause. I am doing my best not to stoop to his level and avoid involving innocent bystanders to prove points. Ed is a professional poker player, and a good one at that (look him up) and he’s “playing poker” right now. He knows I wont leak things publicly about him that involve others. I don’t use others as pawns in stupid cat fights, so he knows he can bluff when he goads me and then can point out “look, see Drak couldn’t come up with anything when I pressed him to back up his accusations with proof”. Good bluff, but Ed, I’m not an immoral person willing to stop at nothing to get my way. Ed on the other hand is quite happy to blurt out whatever he pleases to try and win points to hurt not only me, but the project and everyone connected with it. There’s another indicator: on the one hand he claims to have "written viacoin off" yet he just can’t seem to let go, I wonder why? He's waited until enough pages have gone by that people will not see the incredibly embarrassing things he admitted to. You know, months ago when he started threatening me in private, I offered to find him an OTC buyer, and he refused back then too when via was 11k-12k satoshi at the time. Back then I believe he was trying to scare me into letting him back in my confidence. Now he is trying to build a plausible story so he doesn't lose face with people he told to buy via based on his insider view. When I launched viacoin I wrote about my vision on the blog. I presented my ideas what what I was going to do. I have delivered on the original milestones and been going further. I prefer to under promise and over deliver. I am very curious to know what fuss Ed is kicking up about here? Viacoin is not a startup and was never pitched as such. I simply stated what I was going to do and how I was going to launch the project. Ed wants to treat viacoin as a startup because it fits with his narrative. Ed is trying to make out no good faith efforts have been made with the project, again check the facts: http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/428388/The-official-Viacoin-timeline/. Most adoption and news can been directly attributable to my efforts. Viacoin is not a startup, it is an open source, decentralised software project. He doesnt understand this because his profession is startups, not technology. Ed is taking advantage of people here. In a previous post he claims not to have sold any viacoin, yet when we spoke many many months ago, he told me he'd been buying up more but as the price dropped, he'd been selling. So why is he claiming that he “never sold any viacoin” or “never daytraded”. Maybe like Bill Clinton, he never inhaled? Notice how he never backs up any of these claims with proof and even if he’s not sold his first coins, he most certainly has been buying and selling. Viacoin is under assault by Ed while he shills and pumps Darkcoin in this very thread! A coin with a terrible history: disgusting instamine, multiple unplanned forks and ropey technology. A coin that claims to be decentralised when it is nothing of the sort. “But hey what the hell, the price is going up”. Funny how he is also a big holder of Darkcoin and also holds a major position on the Darkcoin Foundation. Check the threads, there is a clear pattern of behaviour. Ed has been trying to "shut down" viacoin, which is of course silly as it is a decentralized system designed specifically to withstand centralized attacks (further demonstration he's treating viacoin like a startup company). Of course, he's slowly realising that so his next stance is to attack the coin economically with FUD and let’s not fool ourselves who is dumping and encouraging his close circle of friends he introduced to the project to do the same. Can anyone imagine the venom as he tell them "the project is lost", “Look at how terrible Drak is” etc etc. He is clearly passing blame to me to make himself look good and deflecting away from his own failings and immoral behaviour. My main focus over the last 8 months has been to build a robust blockchain with high hashrate. That's very unsexy work but without a robust blockchain, there's just no way to build secure real world applications. As I said before some projects rejecting using the Viacoin blockchain because the hash rate was so low, in the region of 10-20GH/s. Well this weekend we touched 1TH/s for the first time! The blog has always had information about the project from the very start and reasoning behind everything including the launch. Ed knows this, but no-one is going to read that stuff so he feels entitled to just rewrite history according to his own agenda by generating noise here. Worst, no-one will read a long 200 page thread and at most will only see the most recent comments. In the end, Ed has only harmed the project and I regret having being fooled by this merciless confidence trickster. I’ll be the first to admit, I’m soft and naive. My default setting is to trust people and take them at their word. I expect people to be reasonable... For everyone else who has been positive and helpful, you are a credit to yourselves. Edward Moncada aka Masternode is attempting to make a big fuss because things didn’t go his way - I remember him telling me how he liked to “fuck over people” who “crossed him”. Well, this is what it looks like evidently. Shame he is willing to hurt others in the process to settle a score. The truth is the project has been moving forward, stuff has been getting done, clearly I am still here. But things have not gone the way Ed wants (he was cut out of my confidence), so now he’s out for blood. Don’t be fooled by this man. He's clutching at straws and when sentiment went against him, uses his financial standing. Ask yourself, who dumps to 500k coins to zero when there have been so many OTC floating around for months at much higher prices? Obviously not someone who wants to make a profit, but someone who doesn’t care about money because he has so much from screwing others that he is willing to spend good money to settle his vendetta! Viacoin is about the technology. Whether the project succeeds or fails will be down to the technology and the network being robust. |
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It appears that shorts cannot be bought unless they have the highest interest rate in the whole short list. No matter the price limit of the short with the highest interest rate. Someone put a 50% interest rate short order on bitBTC at 60000 BTS/bitBTC, and it seems to be impossible to short BTS for a lower interest rate.
I have done only two tests, but I have been unable to buy my own shorts.
This is an absolute emergency
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Any Canadian Operators here? Im interested in learning this trade
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I am surprised at how people are constantly fighting each other and comparing both of them 1. Monero cannot be compared to Dark. 2. Monero is the coin which is actually a competitor to Bitcoin. Its not just a dumb anon coin. It is this - (1) It uses a different elliptic curve than Bitcoin for signing (EdDSA, which uses Schnorr signatures on a Twisted Edwards curve).
(2) It uses a different hashing algorithm than Bitcoin for PoW, which is AES heavy and currently performs similarly on GPUs and CPUs. One of the main downsides to this is that sidechains are currently impossible (validation takes too long), however as sidechains don't actually exist right now we've been ignoring this. If we want to add sidechain support in the future, the hashing algorithm can be change to something simple. In the meantime, the algorithm is relatively "egalitarian" in that no specialized hardware is required.
(3) One time use addresses ("stealth addressing") is mandatory for all transactions. This makes light clients very difficult to secure or create in general, but it dramatically enhances privacy because it's impossible to ever reuse an address.
(4) All transactions are denominated in base 10, and fractionated by mantissa.
(5) Ring signatures obfuscate spending of outputs by allowing you to do a 1-of-N input for a transaction where you spend funds from Bob OR Alice OR Michael OR Claire OR et cetera. Like one time use addresses, this is a passive privacy technology that doesn't require any active participation of anyone in the network (unlike DarkCoin, CoinJoin, and so on).
(6) A single pair of private keys is used for the recovery of all outputs owned by a wallet, but with a different type of data structure than BIP32 has (viewkey/secretkey).
(7) An implicit, silent multisig implementation centered around Schnorr signatures is being researched and developed (thanks andytoshi/gmaxwell).
(8) Research is ongoing into ways to break our privacy technology and improve it. See: https://lab.monero.cc/
(9) Monero is readily auditable from a regulatory perspective (you can easily prove your ownership of funds if you need to, for example to tax agencies).
(10) It has a much faster emissions (subsidy/reward) curve than Bitcoin. 80% is mined within 4 years. The emissions curve is also much smoother than for Bitcoin, with reward decreasing every block.
(11) Unlike Bitcoin, Monero will have long term perpetual inflation. Subsidy will become fixed in about 10 years time at a flat rate of less than 1%, to keep the chain from becoming fully deflationary and to better incentivize miners. This makes it more likely to be useful as a currency than Bitcoin
4. Darkcoin was just a bitcoin clone with coinjoin added to it. You can use coinjoin with bitcoin. Darkcoin is a coin in the league of shitcoins like Blackcoin Whitecoin etc 5. Monero is brand new technology that is not even fully developed yet, how can anyone compare it to a Bitcoin cloned coin? 6. Monero even wasnt compatible with any pool software, new pool software was coded for it. It was not compatible with any exchange, so new exchange software was coded for it. It is spanking new technology, how can you compare it to 7 year old Bitcoin based code? |
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This is a community of sheeps worshipping their cult God - Scammer Evan Nobody even slightly intelligent should engage in questioning with them. Because their God has told them that they are going to the moon. They have become so emotionally blinded by the God that they turn hostile to anyone even trying to question their God So how did God Evan create the masterpiece - 1. Copy bitcoin code( made by someone else) 2. Copy coinjoin( made by someone else) 3. 1+2= Voila! Innovation descends from the skies But wait, there is a problem, the masterpiece broke even before a handful of devotees put their eyes on it. God is clueless, applies a makeshift patch. But what about the large amount of coins mined before? Should we relaunch? Asked somebody How dare anyone question God, these will be sold at cheap prices peasants, says the God. Roars of cheers can be heard. On a serious note, the only success Evan has achieved is keeping the Scam going on for an year. Why is that? because our planet has a severe shortage of intelligent people. And for anyone intelligent - This is the reality
extremely interesting thread...what struck my eye was the slow validations which can cause a major clog with transactions when Dark Coin (based off of CoinJoin) gets bigger, right? The more coins transacted the slower the confirmations am I right in saying that?
No, not in a meaningful sense. Validation is very cheap. You do run into block size limits if you're trying to transact too much at once, but any privacy system is limited in its privacy by transaction volume. "Dark Coin" really strikes me as pointless. The whole idea in coinjoin is that coinjoin is already part of the design of Bitcoin. There is no advantage in having a new and different system. If you're going to do something incompatible, losing Bitcoin's network effect in the process, then you can do something much stronger. It also depresses me somewhat to see people talking about darkcoin (or even zerocoin/zerocash) when bytecoin has a privacy system with much better properties than CoinJoin (it's similar to CJ except you safely join with offline coin holders, and all users are participants), something made possible by the fact that it doesn't have to fit within the existing Bitcoin network, and it's completely practical, reasonably performant and deployed for some time now. But strangely, it's virtually unheard of... Bytecoin's privacy properties are in some sense weaker than zerocoin's— since its like a supercharged coinjoin— but the cryptography is much stronger and much more efficient, so in practice I'd expect it to have better anonymity just due to it being much more practical (also as evidence to it existing as a deployed system). ... so yea, if you actually are interested in privacy technology in a non-bitcoin system, Bytecoin seems to have pretty much nailed it.  http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01 |
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Dont be fooled by the current Monero prices. The Monero project has a much higher rate of emission than any coin out there. The currency is set to emit 80% of supply in 4 years straight! That is 80% coins mined in just 4 years. This is a very high rate of inflation, but for how long? See yourself -  The price is surprisingly stable with so much of new coins coming into the market. That means lots of people are hodl on this project. Soon as the supply dries up, Monero will be the only currency shooting up like lightning with no corrections in sight. Created this thread to educate people who are thinking the wrong way. Take your positions, the time is running out |
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We need a review of this technology. Something brilliant and clever like this should not be ignored. Even satoshi made some comments on the essence of Cryptonote. Maybe he contributed in some way or another towards its development Apparently it was in development since a few years and was intended to be a step ahead in the right direction, that is transaction privacy. Cryptonote is the tech which should have been bitcoin in the first place. This is a very interesting topic. If a solution was found, a much better, easier, more convenient implementation of Bitcoin would be possible.
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