The critical posts are deleted from the moderated IOTA thread. Feel free to post your opinion about IOTA here - the posts won't be deleted from this unmoderated, uncensored thread.

 

[DEVELOPERS!]

Apparently it was too much fight (between me and Come from Beyond) in the thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=854280.0 and the developers have decided to lock it. This is the last lock message from the thread:


The community has voted and decided to lock this thread. Most likely we will reopen it in the near feature as a moderated thread. Please email me at developers@gadgetcoin.org or send a message in the wallet to the gdcfoundation account if you have any questions about GadgetCoin. Alternatively, please feel free to PM me here at the BCT forum. I will check my messages regularly. We invite all VICR contract holders to a private forum to continue the discussion about the project. We are releasing the system and start working with clients and businesses to generate revenue. We will keep all VICR contract holders and interested parties updated in the GadgetNet private forum.


DEVELOPERS!

We are recruiting developers to work on the W3C open source intiative at https://github.com/w3c/web-of-things-framework. All type of skill set and expertise are welcomed and will be useful. You need only a Github account to start working on the project. W3C is an influential technology organisation, it defines worldwide standards. Most likely will be the dominant standard for M2M and humans to machine communication. That means your work would make a real difference in a very important software development process. Also, your work will be directly exposed to the world largest companies, the participants of the standardization process.
As a side project you could also work with us on the GadgetNet software development which scope is bigger than the W3C code base, but mirrors most of the W3C source. We are willing to offer share options and eventually salary to the developers who are interested in working with us and can contribute. Please email me at developers@gadgetcoin.org if you are interested. Thanks!


I open this thread to discuss all GadgetCoin/GadgetNet related topics in a transparent, unmoderated thread.

[Even GUID of the assembly is same]

Since the posts are deleted from the moderated thread as usual I am opening this thread which will be unmoderated. Feel free to post here and of course the posts won't be deleted from this thread.

Here is the post for opening which was deleted from the moderated thread.

Hello
Just to address the posts pointing out code similarities –

The team I assembled to code Botzilla included coders who had worked on several other bots. They were free to use their own code libraries and snippets in this projects, and were free to copy / paste as much code as they wished. We have made it quite clear that our bot has built and improved on other bots.  If one keeps looking one will find many such similarities. Not to mention, we did reverse engineer other bots just as you're trying to reverse engineer ours.

Our project is quite different from these other bots – our goal  to deliver a high quality bot cheaply, and to expand botting into the mobile arena. Our mobile bot is less than two weeks away. We are quite sure that as our project moves forward, we will be changing the face of botting forever.

Henry.

For someone who know little bit about coding is your post laughable. "They were free to use their own code libraries and snippets in this projects, and were free to copy / paste as much code as they wished" -> so copy pasted 1:1, are you serious? You just changed variable names and strings. And added ccex balance check. You can't be serious...

Other than that, it's not just copy paste of some libraries. It's 100% clone of CIRC. Even GUID of the assembly is same. Coder which made CIRC bot made also BOTcoin bot. It's the same person/team.

This is my last post here, I don't have time to talk with trolls here. Intelligent people know whats all this is about.

Regards

Hello
Just to address the posts pointing out code similarities –

The team I assembled to code Botzilla included coders who had worked on several other bots. They were free to use their own code libraries and snippets in this projects, and were free to copy / paste as much code as they wished. We have made it quite clear that our bot has built and improved on other bots.  If one keeps looking one will find many such similarities. Not to mention, we did reverse engineer other bots just as you're trying to reverse engineer ours.

Our project is quite different from these other bots – our goal  to deliver a high quality bot cheaply, and to expand botting into the mobile arena. Our mobile bot is less than two weeks away. We are quite sure that as our project moves forward, we will be changing the face of botting forever.

Henry.

For someone who know little bit about coding is your post laughable. "They were free to use their own code libraries and snippets in this projects, and were free to copy / paste as much code as they wished" -> so copy pasted 1:1, are you serious? You just changed variable names and strings. And added ccex balance check. You can't be serious...

Other than that, it's not just copy paste of some libraries. It's 100% clone of CIRC. Even GUID of the assembly is same. Coder which made CIRC bot made also BOTcoin bot. It's the same person/team.

This is my last post here, I don't have time to talk with trolls here. Intelligent people know whats all this is about.

Regards

It's an absolute disgrace what these people bring to crypto and of course you are absolutely correct that these fuckers didn't event care to change to GUID of the assembly, which indicates that the exact same code base has been moved to another P&D asset. Anyone who ever done any .NET development understand what does mean, they have just moved to another project from CIRC. And of course the mantra from cheerleaders, shills and sockpuppets is the usual: you are the FUDder to get cheap coins. How many times we heard that from the shills and sockpuppets during the pump?

This is how these doggy fuckers are moving from one project to another by scamming the shit out from the naive followers/investors (though I am not sure who is giving money any more to these people). To be fair using the same code base is common, unfortunately all the +600 shitcoins that cloned BTC or LTC with minimal addition did the same.

On the note of the fate of this coin, when CIRC was started I said Bob, you are going to P&D this again by leaving lots of bag holders behind. He said, "no bro, this time is different CIRC is different, it's a long term project". Of course he has pumped and dumped the shit out of the idiots who invested in CIRC and here we are, the CIRC team has moved with Bob to another project. Obviously this will end up as Bob's other coins, but of course all rational person over age 16 and IQ 85 know this.

I really don't care any more what Bob does, he does what he has got to do to make living, but it's still a disgrace what these people brought to crypto with these P&D scams - no wonder after 6 years of hard work and continues development crypto is in such a very bad shape.

I liked this UK based exchange at https://www.netagio.com ... and a bad news for Bitcoin that it is closing down. I have received this email from the company:

"... The Netagio exchange was set up against analyst and industry practitioners’ expectations of growing Bitcoin trading volumes in the UK and Europe, with a concrete plan to establish a trusted Bitcoin exchange.
 
While we succeeded in establishing a trusted Bitcoin exchange, the Bitcoin industry as a whole has experienced a series of setbacks recently, which have led to stagnation in the industry and trading volumes, as well as adverse price reaction, in contrast to industry expectations in 2014. Continuing regulatory uncertainty across global jurisdictions, a lack of a common approach to regulating Bitcoin businesses, the anticompetitive decision by banks to deny Bitcoin businesses a bank account and banking services, as well IT hacking challenges, have had an adverse impact on the expected growth of the industry trading volumes. ... "

Not a good news for Bitcoin.

Nubits, Bitshares and Bitbay all try to address the volatility issue of crypto currencies. What do you think, which one is the better concept/technics/method to tackle the volatility problem and why?

There are speculations and opinions in here BCT forum that the increasing merchant adoption rate drives down Bitcoin's price. In the meantime transaction data indicate that this is not quite the case

As you can see at http://www.coindesk.com/analysis-around-70-bitcoins-dormant-least-six-months/   "Swanson also points out a "sobering" trend: although the number of merchants accepting bitcoin has increased fourfold this year, blockchain activity is not seeing a corresponding increase."

So after all, the current price drop is not caused by merchants.

[UNMODERATED]

Since legitimate discussions about the identity of organizers of the 3000 BTC BitBay ICO are deleted in the official BitBay thread

This is an UNMODERATED thread where all opinions are welcomed and no posts will be deleted

to discuss who is the organizer of the BitBay US$ 1.2 million ICO, how that money will be distributed as well as any topics users wish to discuss. The Bit Bay team stated that they are long term users in BCT, however they refuse to reveal their identities. So who they are? Is it the Blackhand group or someone else who already caused financial losses for investors or are they just honest individuals with immaculate integrity?

Having so many scams this summer in the alcoin market, the investors' questions about the identity of organizers of the ICO and asking about at least a basic business plan that outlines the spending of the 3000 BTC are perfectly reasonable.

[unmoderated]

This unmoderated thread is the place to discuss VeriCoin. All opinions are welcomed!

SOURCE: https://github.com/vericoin/vericoin

Just a quick overview about what happened with VeriCoin up to date.

- For many supporters, community members, bag holders and investors VeriCoin started around June, with the first Google hangout where the developers, Pnosker, EffectsToCause (two PhD students) and Dave a Microsoft developer presented the team, outlined the plans and not least promised a transparent operation - to work for the community with the community. A team member WizRig was introduced in the hangout and an ambitious marketing plan was outlined. Wizrig - together with the developers - promised a worldwide media campaign to promote VeriCoin by mobilizing all his celebrity contacts and employing a professional PR firm to take VeriCoin to the mass public. Wow, this cannot be a scam, investors said, the PhD students and the Microsoft developer are surely responsible enough to follow up this and pull the project off and the money was start flowing into VeriCoin.

- 2 weeks later the dump came. Many believes WizRig was the face and front figure of the Blackhand P&D group and his role was to hype the coin before the dump. However (and whoever WizRig is), the coin was dumped and Wizrig left the operation before anything was delivered from what was promised in the Google hangout.

- The developers said the software development will be continued (though very-very little was delivered since June)

- Then the Mintpal hack happened. It was told to the community that during a hack 8 million coins was stolen from Mintpal. There is no evidence whatsoever that the 8 million coins was really taken by a hacker, but the Vericoin team has rolled back the blockchain to the state of pre-hack and bailed out Mintpal ... at least it was told Mintpal must be bailed out and in order to prevent attacks on the protocol by the big hand hacker the blockchain must be rolled back. The community had very mixed feelings about the roll back of the blockchain and many investors and supporters left the coin at this point.

- Then the developers visited the Wall Street to take VeriCoin to institutional investors. At least that was told and the action was well hyped on Twitter ... the outcome of the meeting was a picture of skyscrapers in New York.

- Then developers visited the Chicago BTC conference. The event was seen as a game changer by many in the community where VeriCoin will be introduced to a wider audience. The outcome of the meeting was a few pictures that displays fairly happy young men meet with similarly happy young men ... and the price was dropping further.

- Then the news came with a massive Twitter campaign that VeriCoin is working on a secret project, a game changer killer project. Wow, here we are, the community was excited, this surely will be the turning point, this must be huge if such serious, responsible professionals like the PhD students and Microsoft developer say so. The secret game changer project was a VISA VRC debit card with a noname start-up. Two weeks later the project was dropped and never materialized.

- And then, James (jl777) came to save to coin by integrating it into Supernet. Many supporters believe this is the best thing ever happened to VeriCoin, many think VeriCoin should never take James' offer. Time will tell ... up to date was nothing delivered.

- The VeriCoin developers instead of developing VeriCoin started to provide software services for other coins like ARCH.

- For unknown reason on the 3thd of November, 2014 the developers closed the unmoderated Bitcointalk forum thread.

- The price is 5.8k at this moment in time.

I have been buying and using bitcoin in the last two years, but was never interested in the technical details and underlying concept. Now I am reading more and more technical materials and being really fascinated by how bitcoin works, what a good technology it is. Unfortunately more reading raises more and more questions. The newest topic I would like to understand how transactions are recorded in the block more precisely what handles that process (putting new transactions into the block). If I understood correctly miners who generate the block will include the incoming transactions in it. According to the wiki, "all peers trying to solve blocks collect the transaction records and add them to the block they're working to solve". My question is which software component does that, is it the bitcoind software or the mining pool would handle that? If the bitcoin core software does that, would you mind to let me know where is that in the source code? Tracking down step by step the process by reading the source I would understand better what's happening under the hood.