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1  Economy / Service Announcements / WYO.LLC - Incorporate DAO LLC | Series LLC | & more - BTC, L-BTC, L-USDT, XMR on: July 29, 2021, 04:03:32 PM

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2  Economy / Collectibles / [Auction | NO MINIMUM BID] The Times 03 Jan 2009 | 10% to on: April 21, 2019, 02:59:46 PM
BTC The Times 03 Jan 2009 BTC

Greetings Bitcointalkers and collectibles aficionados,

Today, I have the bitter sweet honor of offering you the highly sought after Genesis Block Newspaper, one (1) complete, authentic, original copy of The London Times from 03 Jan 2009 emblazoned w/ the infamous headline "Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks".

Full paper w/ inserts is stored in archival grade polyester protective covering and comes with archival grade box for truly cold storage (but keep it @ room temp.) of this prized relic. Proof of purchase from UK Historic-Newspapers is provided and pictured below, I believe I obtained one of their last copies in mid-2013.

Content courtesy of Bittburger from

Quote from: Bittburger
On January 3, 2009 the first event on the Bitcoin block chain occurred.  Its founder placed an important notation indicating the intent behind what he had just created.  The London Times ran a cover story entitled “Chancellor on Brink of Second Bailout for Banks”. This title was quoted and embedded into the very first transaction ever to be included in the new Bitcoin block chain, by Satoshi Nakamoto.  The block containing this transaction was called The Genesis Block.

View the Genesis Block Coinbase tx

When Satoshi wrote his comment on the Genesis Block, he picked the title for a reason.  It implies the disruptive and revolutionary freedoms associated with financial block chain technologies.

See Wiki on Genesis Block with Newspaper Referenced

Never forget the true meaning of Bitcoin:
Ending the control of Banks and Governments over your Money


Two further remarks on the condition of the paper. There is a small diagonal tear less than 1/4 in. in length on the top of the right side of the back page, this is the back of the paper if the front page is folded. There are approximately ten (10) small pin-sized holes down the leftmost side of the back page, I believe these are a result of the way the papers are printed/distributed, see photos. Photos taken earlier today, see last 10 characters of the block hash for block #572620.

Small tear closeup


Sometime during the final week of the auction I will give details about the bonus item which will be included for the winning bidder of this auction. It will not substantially add to the value of the item up for auction, but bidders will agree that it makes for a welcome addition to this item. Photos forthcoming.


After obtaining the blessing of Mrs. Lyn Ulbricht, I am pleased to share that 10% of the proceeds of this auction will be donated to Following the successful conclusion of the auction this donation will be made in order to further's efforts towards obtaining clemency and/or a presidential pardon for Ross Ulbricht who is currently serving two life sentences in the United States Penitentiary, Tucson, AZ. Ross's trial and subsequent sentencing were obscene miscarriages of justice and I am pleased to be able to help his cause in this small way.

Sign Ross's clemency petition:

Visit to learn more.


Minimum Bid: 40.00 BTC 20.00 BTC 0.00 BTC
Bid Increment: 0.25 BTC

Auction Open: Sunday, April 21 @ 2300 EDT Monday, May 6 @ 2300 EDT
Auction Close: Sunday, May 5 @ 2300 EDT Monday, May 20 @ 2300 EDT
No Sniping: Each bid in the final 60 minutes adds 60 minutes to the Auction Close time until no bid has been made for 60 minutes.

Valid bids will be accepted as replies to this post for the duration of the auction. Clearly indicate your bid in your reply.

I reserve the right to reject bids from any user for any reason. If you are a newbie or have zero/negative trust, please PM me PRIOR to placing a bid.

I encourage questions in this thread but also feel free to PM with any private questions or concerns. Other private channels can also be arranged.


Payment must be received by an agreed escrow within 48 hours of the conclusion of the auction. The escrow shall be a mutually agreeable, trustworthy member of these forums or a highly rated and trustworthy arbitrator from

This item ships free anywhere in the world. I will ensure that the utmost care is taken in the handling and packaging of this delicate artifact to guarantee that the winning bidder expediently receives the entire genuine 03 Jan 2009 London Times in the expected condition as described above. Item ships from the Southern US, and if the winning bidder does not express a preference of carrier, item will ship via UPS/UPS International and will be insured to the fullest extent possible through the same.

Auction will commence approximately 12 hours from the time of this post and is scheduled to end two weeks from then. Happy Easter and good luck Smiley

3  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] Corsair RM1000 PSU on: January 25, 2017, 06:56:06 PM

Used this PSU for a few hundred hours mining in '14. Everything in photo is included.

PM me BTC offers only. Happy to use escrow if requested, see my post history for numerous past successful deals. Ships free anywhere the continental U.S, Intl buyers pay all shipping costs.  I will post in this thread after I have accepted an offer.

4  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] Google CR-48 Mario Chromebook, 1.6Ghz 128GB 2GB RAM Ubuntu 14.04LTS on: January 25, 2017, 06:48:27 PM
Selling a highly collectable Google CR-48 Mario Chromebook. The Cr-48 was distributed by Google between December 2010 and April 2011 to participants in the Chrome OS Pilot Program. See

I put the laptop in Developer mode and have since run several flavors of Linux and Windows. Threw a clean version of 14.04 LTS on it for now, other OS's may offer faster performance on this hardware, YMMV.

Only difference from these is an upgraded SSD, now 128GB

Had been having some issues with the internal wifi, but they seem to have been resolved with Ubunutu 14.04 install. Only other issue very minor w/ the hinge, seems to be somewhat off center, not really sure what is causing this or how to fix, but minor and cosmetic, see photos.


Fun little laptop, checkout what they're selling for on Ebay, PM me BTC offers only. Happy to use escrow if requested, see my post history for numerous past successful deals. Ships free anywhere the continental U.S, Intl buyers pay all shipping costs.  I will post in this thread after I have accepted an offer.
5  Economy / Collectibles / [AUCTION] Bitcoin Magazine Issues 1-18 in plastic MINT on: December 30, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
Up for auction,  BTCBTCBTC Bitcoin Magazine Issues 1-18 BTCBTCBTC, these go all the way back to May 2012 and make for a welcome addition to any serious collectors archive!
All remain in original plastic packaging in Mint, unused condition.
First issue alone is difficult to acquire for under 100 USD
One minor note on condition perhaps unnoticeable from photos below, Issue #2 has extremely minor cosmetic defects on plastic wrap only, magazine itself is still 100% Mint, see below.

Starting bid is 0.15BTC
Bid increments are 0.025BTC
Bids are only valid as to the entire set as I am not interested in breaking this out into individual sales
Any bid found to have been edited (down) will be ignored and the bidder excluded from the remainder of the auction.

Bids will only be valid in the form of a reply to this post, indicating bid amount.

Start time is NOW
End Time is Monday 2nd January 2017, 23:59:59 PM GMT/18:59:59 EST.

No sniping! Bids made within 15mins of the end of the auction extend the auction by 15mins.

Escrow through a mutually agreeable person is also welcome, or Bitrated etc. You pay any associated fees. I reserve the right to request upfront payment from newbies and users with no trade history. I have had several successful deals on these forums so feel free to review my history. Once auction is closed there are no changes allowed. Payment expected within 48 hours otherwise the magazines get relisted.

Shipping is free anywhere in continental US, otherwise buyer agrees to pay full cost of shipping.
6  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] 1x ASICMiner Prisma 1.4 TH/s on: November 03, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
This beast turned out to be far to loud for my tiny apartment, my loss is your gain. see:

I'll take the first reasonable offer, PM me your offers. Buyer pays shipping (US Domestic strongly preferred) and is responsible for sending me a PDF label.

For your labels:

Box dimensions: 18x11x11

Weight: 16.5 lbs.

Shipping from 22314

I have done many trades on the forums, but can do escrow with a trusted member if needed.

EDIT: USB Data Cable/Dongle thing included
7  Bitcoin / Legal / [ANN] Consortium of Decentralized Applications on: November 26, 2013, 07:58:24 PM

Today I am announcing the formation of the Consortium of Decentralized Applications  (CODA) (, but first, some background;

I am Matthew Elias and I founded the world's first cryptocurrency legal advocacy organization back in 2012. You can read more about me and that project at:

Bitcoin has grown exponentially since that time and now faces very near-term challenges which were once viewed as theoretical. Among these challenges are those stemming from uses of the Bitcoin blockchain which allow for the distributed exchange of digital assets, the creation and exchange of smart property, and user currencies among other uses. Although Bitcoin has the ability to implement several of these features itself, many of these features are considered highly experimental, and the required testing of edge cases would be onerous for core-devs whose focus is otherwise occupied. Thus, we can think of decentralized applications as layers sitting on top of the Bitcoin protocol, implementing new and experimental features, but retaining the security and certainty the Bitcoin network provides without the need for mining or any type of traditional "alt-coin". For more on this topic please see and

The Bitcoin Foundation was able to promptly and effectively respond when it received a cease and desist letter from the California Dept. of Financial Institutions earlier this year (letter: (response: On that basis, the charge of the CODA will be to 1. Insulate non-profits associated with decentralized applications from regulatory overreach, and 2. Provide legal frameworks and guidelines for future decentralized applications implementing novel feature sets. Through collaboration with the Bitcoin Foundation and the Digital Asset Transfer Authority we aim to foster growth and regulatory clarity for decentralized applications.

We now seek the contribution of attorneys and policy aficionados alike to build a world class resource capable of assisting decentralized application initiatives globally. Please see below to contribute:

Google Group:!forum/consortiumofdecentralizedapps
Domain Name:
Email me:
Schedule a call/Skype/Hangout:


edit: reflecting name change
8  Bitcoin / Legal / GAO: VIRTUAL ECONS & CURRENCIES: Addt'l IRS Guidance May Reduce Compliance Risk on: June 17, 2013, 07:28:46 PM
This report just became available. I haven't gone through it yet, but the highlights seem encouraging.

Additional IRS Guidance Could Reduce Tax Compliance Risks

9  Bitcoin / Legal / Legal definition of the term "cryptocurrency" on: April 16, 2013, 07:53:18 PM
Blackacre is a cryptocurrency friendly jurisdiction with numerous policies which are advantageous to the growth and success of cryptocurrencies. However, there exists no legal definition for the term "cryptocurrency". The legislature of Blackacre is aware of the existence of many things which might be called cryptocurrencies (Devcoin, Namecoin, Zerocoin, Bitcoin, etc.) but is wholly unclear as to where to draw the line, if any line should be drawn at all!

The legislature of Blackacre approaches you with the following question. What is a cryptocurrency and why?
10  Bitcoin / Legal / Let's draft a model law for the crypto-Hong Kong on: March 19, 2013, 06:50:44 PM
From BLOGDIAL's "FinCEN sounds death knell for US based Bitcoin businesses" (it's worth a read):

"Finally, this is a great opportunity for a country to cause Bitcoin startups to congregate in their territory. A 150 year moratorium on any law that touches anything to do with Bitcoin / Blockchain technology would create a new Hong Kong island of super prosperity, as it becomes the world’s hub for all Bitcoin business, and the trillions of dollars in Bitcoin flowing through it, leaving the pitiful democracies in the dust."

Jon Matonis posted that yesterday. Today, I see nothing preventing the knowledgeable individuals in this community from coming together and making it happen. Below is a simple vision:


Plan: Draft a model law establishing an ideal business climate for cryptocurrencies and their associated ventures. Present said law to various national governments. First-mover advantage establishes the crypto-Hong Kong in the adopting country.

Execution: Amass pro-Bitcoin talent (developers, business, economists, lawyers), establish a persuasive web-presence/sales pitch, and convince a national government to enact said law at the highest level possible.

This is probably too aggressive of a lobbying effort for the Foundation to take on directly, so I'm going through these channels instead. I think such a project would require a somewhat formal organization, but I'm interested in doing this regardless of the form it takes.

So, who wants to craft a super-prosperous crypto-HK?

(GitHub URL has changed) (coming soon)!forum/lex-satoshi

JDBound (Matthew Elias)
virtuallylaw (Patrick Murck)
Big Time Coin
11  Bitcoin / Press / 2012-11-12 American Banker: The Plot Thickens in the Bizarre Bitcoin Blackmail C on: November 13, 2012, 12:29:25 AM
The Plot Thickens in the Bizarre Bitcoin Blackmail Caper

There have been some new twists in the strange case of an alleged attempt to blackmail Mitt Romney for $1 million in bitcoins, raising additional legal questions about the digital currency.
12  Bitcoin / Legal / [CLAG requests your input] Interview w/ Tax Notes International on: October 03, 2012, 01:06:23 AM
I will be doing an interview with the Washington, D.C. based, Tax Notes International ( magazine tomorrow afternoon. This is basically all the reporter is giving me to work with until then:

Given the continuing evolution of Bitcoin, this story poses the question: Do tax authorities need to start worrying about it? How likely is it that Bitcoin will evolve into a significant alternative currency? Because of its anonymous, peer-to-peer nature, how likely will it be used for tax evasion and other nefarious purposes? How difficult is it for tax administrators to track these kinds of transactions?

Any thoughts?

I am not going to respond directly to anyone's comments immediately. Instead, I will read over everything posted prior to the interview, and then post a synopsis of how it went after it is complete.

Thanks Cheesy
13  Bitcoin / Press / 2012-09-06 Romney Shakedown Attempt Shows Bitcoin's Launde... on: September 06, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Romney Shakedown Attempt Shows Bitcoin's Laundering Potential

It may be an elaborate hoax, but an apparent attempt to blackmail Mitt Romney shows the dark side of a disruptive financial technology and raises serious legal questions.
14  Economy / Goods / [SOLD] BFL Single (Rev.3) & Raspberry Pi - 200BTC on: May 27, 2012, 08:34:28 PM
The duo that needs no description. Low power, easy setup, complete mining solution. Or use the RPi to run XBMC if you already have a dedicated rig  Cool. Screw the wait on each of these and have them this week!

I've been using the stock bitstream with this and haven't tried EasyMiner yet. Don't have the original packaging for the BFL, but you will get the box and instructions for the RPi.

Get everything you see pictured and:
-BFL USB cable and power brick
-Micro USB Power cable for RPi
-6'ish foot ethernet cable for RPi
-2gb micro SD card and adapter(pictured plugged into RPi) w/ clean Deb Squeeze install.

Haven't had a single problem with either of these devices. SSH into the RPi and mine with cgminer for a truly elegant headless mining rig. Only getting rid of these b/c I need the money like ASAP, and I have another RPi on the way. Hoping to have this shipped by Tues. Prefer to ship to the lower 48. Will ship 2-3 day priority, included in price.


1. Not willing to part this out. The sexyness of the combo will not be tainted.
2. Google compatibility stuff with the RPi.
3. Should mention the BFL is missing a screw on the side. Does not affect performance.

15  Bitcoin / Legal / US Magistrate Judge Andrew J. Peck (SDNY) Endorses Algorithmic Discovery on: May 06, 2012, 12:52:18 AM

Discovery is far and away the most expensive part of litigation. A highly efficient system could go great lengths towards enhancing judicial access.

In the future, jurisdictions may be forced to choose between competing closed source "algorithmic discovery" options, and (if ever developed) an open source massively distributed system (within a given jurisdiction) a la Bitcoin. Are there specific reasons other procedural functions couldn't be done in a similar way(service of process, notice, etc.)?

16  Economy / Goods / [SOLD] The Impossibles Reunion Tickets (2) @ Mohawk, Austin, TX Sat. June 9th on: April 17, 2012, 02:17:07 AM
Just like the title says. Two tickets to see the Impossibles first show in ten years. Both the Saturday and Sunday shows are sold out, these tickets are for the Saturday show. 10 BTC firm. Free shipping. Admittedly the only thing I've ever bought on here is a BitBrew coupon, so little to no feedback. But I'm a standup guy (see: Summer job is preventing me from going to this.

17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / [ANN] Cryptocurrency Legal Advocacy Group (CLAG) on: April 10, 2012, 11:02:59 PM

(Please do not move this thread to the legal section)

My name is Matthew Elias and I am part of a small group of law students forming a Cryptocurrency Legal Advocacy Group (CLAG). The directors of this group are students at the University of Mississippi School of Law, and are studying to become full fledged attorneys. We are in the process of including students from other law schools in the U.S. and around the world. This idea is loosely based on

We have setup a preliminary site at and are in the process of becoming a Mississippi Non-Profit Corporation (501(c)3, and registered MS charity).
Our incorporation documents can be found here and will be updated upon approval from the MS SOS:

To clarify, we have more than a year to register as a 501(c)3, and that form is a bear, so I will keep everyone apprised of progress on that.

This work is being carried out under the guidance of Prof. Mercer Bullard. Prof. Bullard is one of the foremost securities law experts in the world. . He is really intrigued by the idea of cryptocurrencies, and supports their continued development and adoption. We are also working to contact Wendy Seltzer of the Tor project and Cindy Cohn of the EFF to see if they would be willing to lend their expertise to this effort.

My vision is for CLAG to become a trusted source of legal news and scholarship related to cryptocurrencies. CLAG will release memoranda on a regular basis assessing legal issues related to cryptocurrencies (most topics will be Bitcoin related). For example, our first memo, which we hope to have up by the end of this week will assess the tax-ability of cryptocurrencies under a relatively standard taxation regime. Our inherent bias will be that of a U.S. perspective, but we will do our best to assess these issues from as jurisdictionally-neutral a perspective as is possible. Topics will be selected at the discretion of the board of directors. We also hope to do a short, quick legal FAQ on cryptocurrencies. CLAG functions to provide clarity, education, and consultation, and is in no way providing legal advice.

I won't go into the misleading and perfunctory legal opinions which have been espoused on this forum, however I will state that CLAG will strive to be an objective source of information, providing legal clarity on issues surrounding cryptocurrencies.


Q: Don't other organizations exist which can take on this exact issue?
A: Maybe. CLAG is positioned as the first-mover in this area. If someone comes along and is able to do it better then so be it.

Q: How can anyone trust law students with such an important issue?
A: This question raises several points. First, attorneys will certainly shape the law in this area by choosing certain arguments, and winning and losing on them. As it exists now however, there is not a great deal of litigation or adjudication happening with cryptocurrencies. To my second point then, because these questions are largely academic, abstract, and metaphysical in nature, unpaid law students are in a great position to tackle them. The risk facing an attorney considering taking on a Bitcoin related case can be untenable, and thus again, the unpaid research of students can be of great value.

Q: How are donations used?
A: Down the road, donations could be a vehicle for a legal fund for actions brought against developers or large miners (maybe). I think in the immediate term though, holding the worlds first cryptocurrnecy legal conference, and attempting to encourage as much scholarship on this issue as possible would be the most beneficial use of funding. Recouping the small amount of overhead is another obvious use.

Q: What if donations go to some bogus cryptocurrency?
A: Consistent with our public purpose, I don't see this as likely. Ear-marked donations may be an option in the future, but right now we are essentially using the terms bitcoin and cryptocurrency synonymously. I also think that it is clear that other cryptocurrencies may arise in the near future. And while they may not ever reach the stature or ubiquity of bitcoin (but... they may), they will undoubtedly share many of the same legal issues.  

Q: Why are there only four directors listed on your site when your bylaws require five.
A: We are in the process of filling the vacancy.

Q: Isn't this just centralizing something to its detriment?
A: This is a legitimate concern, and CLAG recognizes the importance of decentralization to all cryptocurrencies. The interplay between cryptocurrencies and various legal systems and jurisdictions is one of the few places from which I think projects can benefit from some centralization. Time will tell if centralized legal advocacy is what brings down cryptocurrencies.

Just to reiterate, I know its not much to look at right now, but we will have our first memo up by the end of this week and more to follow. I will be glad to answer any questions that are not answered by the incorporation docs or the answers above. We also need a logo if anyone is interested. You can donate to CLAG at:

Matthew Elias
Cryptocurrency Legal Advocacy Group
18  Economy / Economics / Prices as Transmission/Communication of Information on: October 21, 2011, 07:08:44 PM
Can anyone point me to where the above proposition originated, or in the alternative point me to someone (an economist) who does a good job at articulating it.

Edit: Right now I'm attributing the original idea to Menger (1871), and using some von Mises also  Wink. If anyone else gives good insight into this concept please post here!
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Most Compelling Bitcoin Statistic on: October 03, 2011, 05:08:10 PM
In your opinion, what is the most compelling Bitcoin stat out there... one that really makes people stop and think about Bitcoin. I'm thinking something along the lines of computing power, or a comparison to Paypal. (Prospective stats or goals can also be compelling...)

Extra credit for citing your response.
20  Bitcoin / Legal / [Available for Download] Academic legal paper re: Bitcoin & Anonymity on: September 01, 2011, 08:15:53 PM
I am going to be writing an academic legal paper, also known as a law journal article here in the states, on the international legal implications of Bitcoin. I am doing this for my Int'l Telecommunications Law class (don't flame me on this, i know the topic could fall into numerous other categories, but doing it for this class is a marriage of convenience, and the prof is probably the most helpful of my available options), and plan on submitting it to several Tech. and Economic Law journals.

As a primer, I recommend this unpublished piece by Mr. Grinberg from Yale:

My paper is going to be about half the size of that and will obviously have less of a U.S. domestic focus and more of an international one. My goal for this thread is to provide me with some inspiration, in terms of research I will need, and also hopefully unveil some issues which I may not have previously considered. Having said that my topic is very nebulous currently. My goal is to write a concise piece which fully examines a legal implication.

I will be drawing heavily from this forum for citations, and may even credit those who offer valuable contributions in this thread and elsewhere.

Thanks for your help, I look forward to the discussion. If you need any clarifications, or have questions about the U.S. legal system please ask.

Edit: This effort is now focused on anonymity and its legal ramifications. Additionally the abstract below is an inaccurate reflection of my thesis

"Bitcoin: Tempering the Digital Ring of Gyges or Implausible Pecuniary Privacy?"

Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer cryptocurrency; which is entirely decentralized, open-source, and non-institutional. A comprehensive history of Bitcoin transactions is constantly distributed among users, while partial anonymity is accomplished through public/private key transactions. Bitcoin differs from digital currencies like Zynga, Second Life, and E-Gold, because no central authority issues new currency, instead it is ‘mined’ by self-interested individuals. States have an interest in regulating Bitcoin, due to its purported desirability as a medium for funding the drug trade, terrorism, and other subversive activities.
Bitcoin’s architecture will encourage continued adoption, which will result in mounting pressure on the legal systems of interested states to codify a solution. For instance, states may define Bitcoin using classical legal designations, chiefly: money, commodity, debt, security, currency, or virtual currency.
The architecture of the internet generally leads individuals to perceive themselves as having a greater of degree anonymity when online. Bitcoin’s architecture is analogous in that it utilizes peer-to-peer networking and cryptography, resulting in a similar perception of anonymity. But, anonymity on the internet is a function of one's desire to be anonymous, and of the amount of resources one is able to dedicate towards that end. States, international bodies, and institutional actors constantly struggle with crafting their laws to mollify this equilibrium. This article proposes that anonymity inherent in Bitcoin operates on much the same principle and that these entities will react to Bitcoin with regulation which will make it less anonymous than the internet proper.
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