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Day 1I've been watching the entirety of the Crypto Open Patient Alliance -v- Dr Craig Steven Wright trial down in London which started today and plan to watch as much of it as I possibly can. Decided to start a thread for daily updates and discussion. Not much has happened so far and just seems to be the opening statements. COPA briefly went through a handful of the forged documents including the LaTeX whitepaper and Craig's defence seemed to consist of just letting the court know about Craig's autism and previous suicide attempt due to the stress of trying and failing to prove he's Satoshi. I guess they know they're probably not going to win this so are going for the sympathy route or at least bracing themselves for inevitable failure and using Craig's autism as an excuse for the lies and forged documents. Timeline:  For those not in the know: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240205-uk-trial-opens-into-bitcoin-inventor-claimsWright, 53, says he is Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym of bitcoin's creator and author of a white paper that introduced the cryptocurrency to the world in 2008.
Crypto Open Patent Alliance (COPA), a non-profit organisation set up to keep cryptocurrency technology free from patents, is suing Wright over his claims first made in 2016.
The trial at London's High Court, presided over by judge James Mellor, is expected to last until mid-March.
"Over a period of nearly 10 years... (Wright had) the strongest incentive to prove he is Satoshi Nakamoto -- but single handedly failed," said COPA lawyer Jonathan Hough in opening remarks.
Documents provided by Wright were not written in the same software code as the original 2008 white paper, according to Hough.
"COPA's case is, simply, that Dr Wright's claim to be Satoshi is a lie, founded on an elaborate false narrative and backed by forgery of documents on an industrial scale," the lawyer added in a written submission.
"As his false documents and inconsistencies have been exposed, he has resorted to further forgery and ever more implausible excuses."
COPA wants the High Court to rule that Wright -- who is expected to face questioning on Tuesday -- is not Satoshi.
The enigmatic programmer describes himself as "Creator of Bitcoin" on social media platform X.
"I conceived bitcoin, and I unveiled it to the world," he wrote last month in a posting on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Wright, who on his website describes himself also as a businessman, has been involved in a number of lawsuits brought by himself but this time around is being asked to defend himself.
COPA brings together heavyweights in the industry, including cryptocurrency platform Coinbase and Block, which specialises in digital payments.
It accuses Wright, nicknamed 'Faketoshi' by his detractors, of lying about his identity and of forging and manipulating documents presented to try and prove his claims.
The outcome of the case could determine that of another pitting Wright against 26 developers -- including Coinbase -- for allegedly infringing upon his intellectual property rights. Or just watch the Dr Bitcoin podcast on COPA vs. Craig Wright: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e0cAqs-0ngIf anyone has any questions feel free to ask. Updates:Day 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63623032#msg63623032Day 3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63630400#msg63630400Day 4: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63633942#msg63633942Day 5: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63639614#msg63639614Day 6: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63652331#msg63652331Day 7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63659056#msg63659056Days 8-11: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63688503#msg63688503Day 12: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63693964#msg63693964Day 13: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63698891#msg63698891Day 14: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63707433#msg63707433Day 15: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63709690#msg63709690Day 16: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63723561#msg63723561Day 17-18: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.msg63739261#msg63739261Day 19: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484211.new#newDr Bitcoin Podcast updates: Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e0cAqs-0ng&tPart 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VZE-oc8cEAPart 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYibVsBxid0Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aproxaMcFL4Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS9_GQkMAicPart 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ieqSOUCaBMPart 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWiLW_ASbOk
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 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury_vs_Derek_Chisora_IIIIs there no thread for this yet? Maybe nobody does actually want to see this  . Obviously just a tune up fight for Fury and looks like he just wants to add another trilogy to his belt (apparently nobody else has had two trilogies before), and also just giving Chisora a big pay day at the tail end of his career. It doesn't look like many people are all too excited for it and Chisora should be easy work for Fury but I guess I'd rather see him fight somebody at least than nobody at all. Chisora's corner threw in the towel late into the last match but I think Fury will get a KO earlier on much like his last fight against Whyte. Daniel Dubois vs Kevin Lerena is also on the undercard. Maybe they'll try squeeze a Tommy fight on there too but given he's fighting next month it might be a bit too soon, but if not I'm sure there will be one of the other Fury clan members on the card. |
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https://twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1535324685763764224 Jake Paul confirms next fight date with Amanda Serrano set to box on undercard
No opponent has been announced for the YouTube star, who will compete at Madison Square Garden https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-next-fight-date-amanda-serrano-b2098595.htmlIt seems that both Jake Paul and Serrano will be fighting as a Co-main event in August but doesn't look like any opponents have been announced. Weird. Unless they're fighting each other haha. I'd imagine Jake won't be fighting anyone big less he likely would have announced it already and done his own fight. Maybe he's combining it with Amanda so it's not a flop. I'd be very surprised if he fights anyone notable, especially someone like Tommy Fury, unless he's worried that not many people will be interested without another headline act like Serrano. I really think he should have tried to set that fight up as it's a logical step up for him and gets him the cred of actually fighting a boxer. I wonder why Serrano just didn't take the Taylor rematch which it seems Taylor really wanted. Even Hearn seemed to be disappointed and very surprised it wasn't happening but maybe Jake thinks he can earn more for her with this fight. The first was a really close fight and I'm sure the rematch would have been even bigger.
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It has just been brought to my attention that Timelord2067 has committed a very serious hate crime against me. As you can see from the post below he has misgenderd me *holds back tears*: What a cry baby hilariousetc is... I leave *neutral* trust feedback on his page, he gives me negative trust feedback...  Definitely trust abuse by hilariousetc@LoyceV @theymos @suchmoon @ibminer His/He? How dare you! I identify as the Queen of England and my pronouns are Her Royal Highness/Majesty. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask Timelord to surrender himself to the Internet Police as he should be arrested for crimes against satire. Since timelord thinks nonsensical made up "hate crimes" are a valid reason to leave negative feedback I can only urge the community to hold him to the same sort of standards. I am very offended by all of this. Nobody should be misgendered in 2020. Can't stop crying. |
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Examples of deleted posts we disagree with. Reasons provided. It would seem responding to false accusations, or questioning unsubstantiated claims with a challenge, or pointing out observable double standards is not permitted flow. I will also use this thread to make responses to The-One-Above-All seeing as he is just going to delete all my responses and I gotta get those bitcoin crumbs. First deleted post: A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. DELETE 6
It seems only hilarious and co is allowed to throw insults at others and does not like any back his way
Do you have any proof that I don't like them or is this yet another lie from you? I actually love insults. Especially relevant and witty ones. Unfortunately you haven't said anything witty as of yet. I also don't see the insult. I asked a question since you refer to yourself as a group of people and in my opinion there's almost certainly only you, hence my diagnosis that you have some sort of dissociative disorder. Unless you'd like to fill us in on this other mystery person. I mean, we all know what game you're trying to play and who you mean, but that other person is you, therefore you're crazy and deluded. Response to his response: Uses a quote with "seems" as a start lol? but even if that were not present. It seems like you like to make lies and assumptions. " I actually love insults" - wow, you really proved we were lying. That was amazing. Yes, I did, but the lie is that you claim I'm the only one that is allowed to throw insults around which just isn't true. I don't think you understand the standard of observable evidence required to prove a person is lying. I do understand perfectly fine. It's you that seems to live in some alternate universe where lies = truth and vice versa. You've lied and made unbacked accusations multiple times. You claimed cryptohunter was banned. He never was. A lie. You've claimed I've personally done certain things when I never have and there's no evidence thereof. More lies. You've also claimed you are not cryptohunter which is obvious bullshit to most sane people. Just because you can hide behind the anonymity of a computer screen doesn't make it any less true but I know you're going to keep running with that facade just because you can. Your paranoia and pretending to be someone you're not whilst repeatedly banging your head against a brick wall and expecting different results is literally Einstein's definition of insanity. I think it is quite obvious that it is you the supporter or scammers and liars that is lying hilarious and co. The only thing that is quite obvious is your nonsense. LOL, demands proof or it is lying, and then proceeds to guess, speculate and make false accusations. You mean like you constantly do? "almost certainly" oh really. Well then its " almost certain" you don't like me insinuating the "we" could be me and your sister, or gf? I don't care either way, but it couldn't possibly be true because I have neither a sister or a gf. So why make random things up that can't possibly be true? What is the opposite of a truth and what do you call something that couldn't possibly be true? Lies. Rather dishonest to do so don't you think, or perhaps you're just a complete fantasist? I suspect you're both. perhaps I am too busy "filling in" other people? Filling people in full of bullshit? Or perhaps too busy having in depth conversations with yourself:  "Your diagnosis"? as a pro board spammer? who needs 2 sigs to spam with? Complete ad hominem, but what does me being a Pro board spammer or not have to do with anything? I don't need any sigs but I'm not going to turn down free money for something I would be doing anyway and getting paid to argue with fools is probably the easiest and most enjoyable money I've ever made. I should be commended for doing something I love if anything. Okay, well, we may skip your diagnosis then since you have only speculation, an observably weak mind, and likely no training in such areas. An observably weak mind? In your opinion, one that is worth next to nothing around here. I'm sure many others would disagree with you here as well, but this coming from the paranoid schitzo sock-puppet master I'm not sure you're qualified to make judgement on anything regarding matters of the mind and sanity. Also, I actually have a first class honours degree in Internet Butthurt from the University of Life, hence why I am very qualified to make such diagnoses and you have a severe case of IB. "we all know"? - but have no proof? - therefore you know only what you think you know, perhaps you are wrong or lying ? As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknownsthe ones we don't know we don't know. You're the one that is wrong and lying. Everyone knows the earth isn't flat but there's idiots who still think otherwise. Everyone here knows who you are despite your futile protestations. You've become the bitcointalk equivalent of a insane flat-earther. Congratulations. Get back to deleting on topic and relevant posts your scamming and lying friends tell you to delete Yet more lies. I don't have any friends here and do you have any proof whatsoever that anyone has told me to delete a post or that I am in fact the one responsible for doing so? If you cannot provide proof of this then that will be yet another unbacked accusation and a lie. and spamming both you sigs for some btc crumbs. Again, irrelevant ad hominem, but why the change of heart: I do know many people from my country that use this forum as their only source of income. This website is very popular among our internet cafes and I started to read more about this forum. The thing is a lot of jobs don't pay enough and people are looking for a way out. Do you feel empathy for these people or do you think this forum shouldn't be for money?
One must endeavor to empathize with those less fortunate than ourselves. I would not chastise those seeking much needed financial reward in return for their contributions. If they are trying their uttermost to provide valuable and useful content, then however meager their net output is, they must be encouraged. Do you not have any empathy for the less fortunate any more? Or are your biases effecting your judgement again here? WE will just enjoy our day knowing we are honest and fair. You are neither. You are both dishonest, a liar and extremely biased yourself whilst continuing to state lies and make false accusations. Start appearing more fair and honest.
I am fair and honest. You just don't like the truth when it doesn't fit your narrative. |
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I'm not going to respond to mdayonliner's off topic posts in his attempts to derail the thread to suit his argument so the responses to the deleted ones will go here. Any discussion about my reputation as a user or moderator doesn't belong in a thread about Yobit's signature campaign but feel free to create separate ones in Meta or Reputation. Deleted post: Why should mods be left to clean up their mess?
Because you are hired to do the job. The admin is paying you 1 handsome amount of money to do that. Thanks to those people 2 who report bad posts and help you, they do it out of love not to get paid unlike you. If they would not do that then you dipshit hilariousandco or hilariousetc would need to spend more time to find bad posts before deleting them. That way you would not have time to feed the community with your pathetic idiotic ideas/logic against others. 1Other mods, please don't be offended with this. I have full respect for you guys. I am sure all of you are giving your heart and soul to make this forum a better place and loyal to the forum. I have issues with this dipshit hilariousetc aka global mod hilariousandco. To me he is nothing but a blatant liar, a master manipulator who is using his influence in the forum. 2I used to be one but dipshit like you made me what I am now. Not sure how many more users are victim of your bullshits and master manipulation. And you tell this...? And people are all for it for personal reasons as long as it financially benefits them....
Where were you when the entire community was not sure about CloudBet's move of those 330BTC? You were still endorsing them ignoring the whole community. By the way, if you don't eat your brain then this is an on topic response of your ignorant statement Why should mods be left to clean up their mess?
So, unless you forget your job instruction, you are not going to delete this post. And I proudly bring this again...
@Mulann2: Remember what I told you? Check this! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg50720359#msg50720359HERE: http://archive.is/tdKWg#selection-3567.158-3567.193Now I wait to have my next sMerit so that I can give it to you. You got luck mate like S_Therapist and Retina Mday's future merit tx: -> Mulann2 -> S_Therapist -> Retina It will cycle unless there are another newbie come and join with you three. Someone please create another reputation topic against mday accusing merit abuse (wouldn't it be an abuse? Only sending to some selective members.). Please.... I know there are some ass-lickers and I hope they take this opportunity. PS: May be dipshit Hilari/Hilary (Sorry TMAN, I now call out of disrespect) forgot that mday is not going to make anymore posts in meta and reputation until this... Until theymos response here, this is my last post in reputation and meta.
So, stop pulling me there dipshit. Why should mods be left to clean up their mess?
Because you are hired to do the job. The admin is paying you 1 handsome amount of money to do that. No, signature campaign managers are hired to do that job (or are not in many cases). Campaign managers are actually paid handsomely and so they should be because it's a lot of work and a full time job in of itself but I'd love to see them work for free and nowhere in my 'job' description does it say I must be responsible for signature spam. There's gallons of shit flooding the forum 24/7 that mods shouldn't have to deal with in the first place and I've suggested plenty of ways to try improve or stop that to theymos. If I'm hired to manage an office that doesn't mean I have to clean the toilets and the litter in the streets outside as well. Not my job, but I've gone out of my way to try stop the flow of shit several times when I don't need to. Do you see any other mods wasting their time writing things like the signature campaign guidelines? Nope. The money I earn from this forum might be 'handsome' to some people like you but is a pittance in respect to the amount of work I put in here and it wouldn't even amount to a part-time job in my country and I would certainly be getting paid under minimum wage for the amount of hours I put in here so if all I cared about was money I would be here half the time that I am and earning money elsewhere. Thanks to those people2 who report bad posts and help you, they do it out of love not to get paid unlike you. How do you think I became a mod in the first place? And people report posts for many different reasons. Some do it for purely altruistic reasons and to help out but some also do it for potential financial gain as well because they hope they might be able to get a staff position here. I'm guessing you were also one of them. Once they realise that isn't going to happen many of them conveniently stop and I've seen it happen several times before. There was also a huge spike in reporting from certain users when theymos announced he was going to give out badges for high reporters and stuff that never materialised so don't make out like people like you purely do it for the love of the forum because it's BS. If that was true you'd still be doing it but there's obviously nothing in it for you now. Once you can't earn from here on an account you discard it only to re-animate it once you can (like now how you found a loophole on yobit to get paid with negative feedback on this account even though it's against their terms.). If they would not do that then you dipshit hilariousandco or hilariousetc would need to spend more time to find bad posts before deleting them. That way you would not have time to feed the community with your pathetic idiotic ideas/logic against others. Not true at all and yet another biased assumption from you. I could probably handle half of the reports I currently do and I would still get paid the same. I go above and beyond almost everyday even though I know I don't need to handle as many reports as I do but I do what I can when I can. I've probably been one of it not the most active mods here for the past several years (though I think Rickbig probably handles more reports than I do these days so shout out to him). 1Other mods, please don't be offended with this. I have full respect for you guys. I am sure all of you are giving your heart and soul to make this forum a better place and loyal to the forum. I have issues with this dipshit hilariousetc aka global mod hilariousandco. To me he is nothing but a blatant liar, a master manipulator who is using his influence in the forum. You only don't like me because I called you out. Many others agreed with my evidence whether you like it or not. I'd also like you to point out where I've lied. Drawing comparisons and similarities between you and other users is not lying. You just can't handle that. 2I used to be one but dipshit like you made me what I am now. Not sure how many more users are victim of your bullshits and master manipulation. There isn't any. Master manipulation is laughable. What have I manipulated exactly and for what gain? What do I get from exposing you? Are you saying liars, scammers and merit abusers shouldn't be outed? And you tell this...? And people are all for it for personal reasons as long as it financially benefits them....
Where were you when the entire community was not sure about CloudBet's move of those 330BTC? You were still endorsing them ignoring the whole community. Where was I? I was watching you run around like a desperate child trying to spin the heat onto me for merely having a thread with the word Cloudbet in it. It was pathetically laughable and I already explained about this before but you conveniently ignored it. And the keyword here is "not sure". You weren't sure and neither was anybody else but you had a hard on for this case because you had a vendetta with me and that's all it was ever about. As I already explained I was actually watching the situation very closely. Had there been a scam I would have removed it. But there wasn't. Just an accusation and you jumped on that chance. Also, I didn't personally get paid a single satoshi for the Cloudbet thread so you're wrong and barking up the wrong tree again just because it suits your narrative. The further irony here is you're also being a huge hypocrite advertising for yobit. There are plenty of scam accusations against yobit and here you are advertising for them because you have financial motive to do so. You don't care if you make money from ponzis at the expense of others as long as they enrich you and you are happy to advertise scams any opportunity you get. There was never a scam in the Cloudbet accusation and they actually rectified the situation very professionally, but that didn't stop you still trying to get me swept up into receiving negative feedback and your motives were clear from the start. PS: May be dipshit Hilari/Hilary (Sorry TMAN, I now call out of disrespect) forgot that mday is not going to make anymore posts in meta and reputation until this... Until theymos response here, this is my last post in reputation and meta.
So, stop pulling me there dipshit. Why are you referring to yourself in the third person and why why do you keep saying this will be the last response when it never is. You disappeared below and sulked off claiming that this was going to be your last post in Reputation and Meta:
- Please, can you confirm that mdayonliner does not cross match with the IP of S_th... and Retina account?
Until theymos response here, this is my last post in reputation and meta.
I will leave it up to you theymos. Thank you for having me.
Good luck everyone in meta and reputation.
Then you magically reappeared like a genie three days later to immediately claim a free physical coin someone was giving away THREE minutes after the thread was created: Count me in please. I will take some.
How do I give you my address?
What a coincidence that you saw it so quick on an account that was MIA and temporarily abandoned. You popped back because you wanted some free coin. More proof that all you care about is coin. You likely won't ever go away. You'll always be lingering around on one alt or another because this forum is bank to you and this is why you're so annoyed. You weren't really getting all hot and bothered with me and losing your temper throwing childish names around until I made the thread about you being s_therapist then you got furious because it was obvious that the account you were working so hard on got ruined and all you want to do is to be able to have a highly trusted account here to earn and that's why you're so mad. Probably the same situation with Retina. |
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I've "known" about this for pretty much as soon as mdayonliner created the S_Therapist alt account to "start" again (which he publicly announced he'd done so somewhere but he left the account unnamed for obvious reasons) but I kept it to myself and was going to let it slide and hope that he could put his mistake behind him but there's multiple levels of abuse he's now doing. Not only is he 'talking' to himself on each account (both on sig campaigns), posting back to back, but he's also now meriting his own posts: Post he merited: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg49177831#msg49177831A thread he just created to talk to himself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096229.0How do I know they're the same person? Well, I first suspected just by the way they type and how they conduct themselves (which you start to pick up on these things), but what really gave it away was he then referred to me as 'hilari' which I've only ever seen mdayonliner do. I wasn't the only one to notice this and several other people have PMd me to tell me about the similarities they noticed since (they can chime in if they wish). You might not think this is enough evidence that they're one and the same but if you look at the accounts and how they type and behave it's glaringly obvious. Three accounts where he called me hilari: I think soon there will be a solution because everyone is fed up with this. I have seen somewhere theymos said he is willing to spend $100k for solving this problem. Also, here is a statement from hilari-
I know hilari AKA hilariousandco always discourage me (and others I guess too) to create topics for reporting issues instead s/he encourage to hit the report to moderator button. But sometimes it's too confusing to hit the button.
No hilari, you are wrong. It pissed me off because I had clearly stated that please do not remove the post. The rest I have explained above.
Both Bangladeshi: Bitcoin is fascinating. I am with bitcoin and cryptocurrency space since the end of 2015. Love to share and hear about cryptoworld. Anyone interested in Bangladesh to meet up and share about this awesome world then give me a shout.
বিটকয়েন অসাধারণ। বিটকয়েন এবং ক্রিপ্টোকারেন্সি নিয়ে আমি আছি গত ২০১৫ থেকে। ভালবাসি ক্রিপ্টোদুনিয়া নিয়ে শেয়ার করতে। বাংলাদেশে কেউ জানতে আগ্রহী হলে যোগাযোগ করুন নির্দ্বিধায়।
অনেকেই প্রায়সময়ই প্রশ্ন করে থাকে কিভাবে DT সিস্টেম কাজ করে।এটা নিয়ে এই ফোরামে অনেক thread আছে যেখানে বিভিন্নভাবে এটার ব্যাখ্যা করা হয়েছে।কিন্তু যারা নতুন মেম্বার তাদের যাতে বুঝতে সহজ হয় এইরকম একটা থ্রেড খুজছিলাম এবং পেয়েও গেলাম যেখানে খুব সহজভাবে DT system নিয়ে ব্যাখ্যা করা আছে এবং আমি খুব সহজে এই সিস্টেম টা সম্পর্কে জানতে পারলাম।আপনারাও যাতে সহজে বুঝতে পারেন তার জন্য আমার এ খুদ্র প্রয়াস।
Change the bold word, please. There are some mistakes in your translation. It's not thread, use post. Thread= Starting Post/ Opening Post এবং পেয়েও গেলামNo, I didn't get any thread and that's why I have written one. আমি খুব সহজে এই সিস্টেম টা সম্পর্কে জানতে পারলাম।I didn't write such kind of sentence. Where have you got it? Have you used google translator although it looks natural? And, thank you for letting people know about how DT system works. Hey, Stop Sharing any video link. It's not forbidden here. People can share if s/he get something useful to everyone. Frequently uses the same red paint arrows and boxes to highlight things: I received this email today from Paypal (Not really, they want you to believe it)  There's multiple other smaller similarities in the way they post like using tildes (~) when they snip bits out of other's quotes but the biggest ones are above and the fact that three other people that I know about had already made the same connection independently leads me to believe that it is almost certainly him. As I said before, I was happy to overlook this and leave him be to build up a screw-up free reputation and leave his past behind but I think this is just being too cocky now and he's knowingly breaking the rules by posting back to back and now the merit abuse is just stepping over the line for me. Edit: Part Two: S_Therapist = mdayonliner = Retina: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681.msg50271724#msg50271724 |
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I'd like to get the community's thoughts on possible alternatives to permabans for things like copy and pasting/plagiarism. One that seems to have the support of quite a few people is instead of a permanent ban a user has a signature ban instead (IE the signature is removed so they can no longer earn here). The signature ban could be permanent, temporary, or indefinite until the user has proven their worth over time and then it's reinstated. We could even make it so after the user has received x amount of merit then their signature is possibly reinstated (it would have to be a lot - at least one hundred in my opinion). I think there are several levels of severity in plagiarism and not all are equal and in some cases a permanent ban forever can be a little harsh (especially if it was just one silly mistake). I think there's a big difference in someone quoting something from Wikipedia to answer someone's question, and those that purposefully copy someone else's post here or 'text-spin' it just to earn from signatures (I'm really not sure if those users deserve a second chance, but good luck to them trying to get hundreds of merit to get it back). To be honest, removal of their signature to signature spammers might as well be a permanent ban and most will probably just give up immediately if they can't earn here, but for others it would be shame if there's no chance of forgiveness especially if they've been an active or helpful member of the community and just screwed up one time. Theymos has mentioned before signature bans and blacklists and was something that was supposed to happen with the signature campaign guidelines but maybe he could make this his next priority after the account recovery tool.
Alternatively, what do people think about paying some sort of fine to get their account back? The money probably wouldn't go to the forum or staff but to a bitcoin-accepting charity instead. That way at least a good cause benefits and they're still paying a financial penalty.
You could maybe give people two options for those that are banned for plagiarism: You can either have a sig ban indefinitely but are allowed to post, or possibly even allowed to earn the signature back by getting a sufficient amount of merit (say maybe at least 100), or just pay a substantial fine (at least $100). As I've mentioned before I'm strongly in favour of more donator ranks that give you a bigger signature and maybe they could get their signature back by purchasing one of them. I think we should also give them the option of earning it back via merit so at least they have two options and if they don't want to pay anything then they can try earn their signature back by contributing something worthwhile.
You can vote for two options on the poll just in case you are for both a sig ban and paying a fine. If you have any other alternatives or issues with the current options then please state so. You can also discuss how much a fine should be or how much merit a user should earn before they get their signature back.
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Someone has been reporting a few users for posting back to back and I started to notice a pattern. In addition to the constant double posting they also make the same sort of badly-spelled posts with letters jumbled up and all in lower case. For example: it is the cryptocurrency world we are talking about so i do not think that ot can be so stable for us to predict which tokens will appear
i expect good token that will bring you a lot of money and good emotions so i believe that you should not be afrid of the cryptocurrency world
peopel think thatbthey do not need much experience and much knowledge to be aholder but really why jot to do so
peopel think taht holding is good and that it is easy and thwy are right in a way but it is still quite responsible for peopel
peopel have a right to do wahtever they want to do and we will know how to be more kind and human if we pat more attention
of course there are a lot of peopel who can not afford a lot but tht it only a beginning and i want to wish them good luck
scammers are lazy and i believe that there is jo way for peopel to control this events and there will be always a risk to be scammed
it is okay taht peopel want easy money but still they should know taht stealing is bad and that should be punished
i buy new coins as i think taht they can sometimes bring us more amd more than old omes and old ones can bring us down
you will be surprised when you w8ll find out ablut how mzny new anf really brand new coins ypu have but not know about
i think taht there is jo need for cancelling icos as they bring people a lot of money an dnecessary experience for their work
icos are not cancelled as there is no need for this the only thing we have to do is to avoid scamming and to panish scammers
A clusterfuck of them all posting back to back: Yeah sometimes I like to buy some newly listed coins on market. But I only invest on into protensial coins. Cause I don't wanna lose my capital.
Well I have never heard about it, I think it is not really famous or you can say my lack of information about it, now a day at best marketing value coin is only bitcoin, people are investing, trading and using bitcoin from so many different places, they are getting good profit with it, so I think hold your ripple for some time and try bitcoin investment, it will be profitable for sure. coins czn be bad and good and does jot matter what they zre new or old as old cpins can let you down as well you will be surprised when you w8ll find out ablut how mzny new anf really brand new coins ypu have but not know about new coims are amazing they are not so expensive as their fellow old thing and soemtimes they will bring you more income They even use the same typos multiple times: peopel & taht for instnace. There's probably a lot more of these. Hopefully someone can find more of them via bounty addresses. |
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Just saw this user posting in the Cloudbet's Super 6 Soccer Predictor Competition: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18021 JusticeForYou June 04, 2011 He stood out because he's a VIP and I've never seen him before, and then noticed his details had been reset recently: This user's password was reset recently.
This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity.This isn't the first time he's woken from a long period of inactivity either. He disappeared on May 26, 2015 to reappear on August 13, 2017. On the 15th he then asked for a silly loan: Well lets get straight to business.
I want to borrow Bitcoin.
Full Disclosure: I have no intention of paying them back, so I'll skip the sad story and great business plan.
I just figured every other method was used to get people to loan coins, why not just an honest one.
If you're interested deposit coins here vvv
Thank You for your time.
Best Regards,
Then nothing until November 07, 2018 where he posted in the Cloudbet giveaway thread. |
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The posts below stand out like a sore thumb from this user and are almost certainly copied from somewhere, but I can't find the original content. Maybe they're being taken from a foreign language source and translated into English to avoid detection: if I think personally
Merculet gives absolute permission to help entrepreneurs produce UAT (user tokens), which is considered a marked marker for any businessman. UAT will connect the main MVP token with different rates, which ensures synergy and price exchange among business people.
About the project Resets collecting the Web from the values of attention in light of consideration, using public convention meetings to link requests and consideration proposals.
Merculet provides a broad answer that allows businesses to issue their own tokens to pay customers. (Tokens used in the system cannot be exchanged with ads with symbols) These tokens are called UAT (User Attention Token).
Merculet forms the concept of the score of the meaning of the user with the purpose of academic measurement from the value of the user's interest. An entrepreneur can only get recognition to a concept that can freely integrate with the classic gift system with the support of a series of protocols that are disclosed.
In addition, Merculet assumes that the evaluation of user value will experimentally evaluate customer perceptions and interactions with known basic assistance.
In addition, Merculet has created key associations with various applications, for example, Castbox and Zhuishushenqi, which have a large client base both locally and at the universal level. This application covers around four to five million customers.
if I think personally Throughout the history of the cryptocurrency industry, Bitcoin remains the dominant player. Although it no longer enjoys 80% or more of the market share of industrial markets as at the beginning of the year, it remains a digital currency with the largest market share. Other digital currencies are growing compared to Bitcoin, such as Litecoin (LTC), Ethereum, Ripple, and more.
A news reported by Invezz.com shows that Litecoin is a digital currency that also needs to be considered by investors.
Here are some reasons why Litecoin has proven to be a better investment than Bitcoin in the future.
# 1 Like Bitcoin, but continues to be developed
Litecoin is often compared to Bitcoin, and for good reasons: both digital currencies are closely related. This currency has been heavily influenced by Bitcoin when it was developed in 2011.
Both of them have deflationary properties, with supply kept tapering (limited) for the next few years.
However, there are important differences that separate the two. First, Litecoin has a lifetime cap of 84 million coins, which is four times higher than the total number of Bitcoin that can be mined.
This means that along with increasing demand, there will be a larger supply of LTC to achieve it, at least initially.
if I think Litecoin personally
Litecoin was present in October 2011 as the first digital currency with a Scrypt-security system that forms a keyword system based on the Key Derivation Function (KDF). Litecoin tightens the security of user passwords. They believe, similar to banking, security will affect the confidence of potential investors.
Now, Litecoin always enters the top 10 crypto with the highest market capitalization value. Until the beginning of this week, the value reached Rp. 30.5 trillion. But the exchange rate is still relatively low, 1 LTC is equivalent to around Rp.528 thousand.
If they are from a foreign language it will probably be Indonesian if that helps. |
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As per the title I find it highly probable that rezwalker bought merit from Embroiderymate. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1302322 rezwalker Merit summary for rezwalker Merit: 3 Sent in the last 120 days Received in the last 120 days July 21, 2018, 11:09:42 AM: 1 from Embroiderymate for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) July 21, 2018, 11:09:23 AM: 2 from Embroiderymate for Re: where to sell tokens? Shitposts he was merited for: One merit : nobs(nobs crypto) will take care of all scammers in future
so we will identify scammers easier
Two: as suggested goto coinmarketcap
and see the prices of your token
see the markets u can use,and the volumes
then choose one ,and you are ready to go
Embroiderymate has negative trust for trying to sell merit (thread is removed though): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=709833 |
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Noticed this shit post below was given five merit: limmousine (5) everyone wants marriage, only stupid and abnormal people who don't want it, but not everyone who gets a marriage, even until his death the marriage doesn't come. so marriage is the most beautiful gift that God has given us.
this reminds me that when I was single. I am a hypocrite, a bad man, a drug addict and a rebellion to parents, everything I do is useless.
but after my marriage a lot of things changed, especially when I had to meet household needs and also during my wife's pregnancy. all of that makes me have to be a better person and I don't want my child to be a bad person like his father before.
now I live happily and become a much better person before I get married, this is the most beautiful gift from God and if not for marriage maybe my life would not be as beautiful and happy as this.
Then he got another five from a different user: knuckey (5) if this is the end of the crypto, then I'm sure there's a big dump is going on and maybe this time all crypto is not worth it, but its all not happening.
if this is the end of crypto, do you think big investors or often called whales will be willing to lose all their assets? certainly not and they will do anything to restore their assets.
limtjoehua received five merit from both limmousine and knuckey (conveniently enough to become a Member), both who also merited Ghebung Masam for these posts below: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2039821 Ghebung Masam fraud is the main reason the government does not like crypto, see from last year there were a lot of ico scams that cheated many people, made worse by the investment business of hyip or ponzi under the guise of crypto which was very detrimental to many people. honestly there are many governments that have seen the potential of crypto and some countries have supported crypto. it's just that there is a lot of pressure from bankers and other politics that makes a government decide on an unpopular policy.
if we want to give a gift or pocket money to our child, should it be known by the public? this is where the role of privacy must be maintained and for me it is very important. therefore monero deserves to be in my portfolio and hopes to become a valuable asset in the future.
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Yesterday about five accounts were banned for copy and pasting and I noticed that all had received merit from the user foserfox: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=485194 foserfox He already has negative feedback for abusing bounties with alts. These accounts were banned (plus some others I think): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2126122 Ghosteat May 16, 2018, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2179485 Svetlya4ok June 03, 2018 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125586 Extrovert May 16, 2018 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125648 SeriosSam May 16, 2018 Ghosteat just complained about the ban here: If you look at foserfox's sent merit history there's a few other users that haven't been banned as of yet that he has merited with the same sign up dates as some of the above: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125980 Stervyatnik May 16, 2018 This post was merited and is likely a copy and paste that has been text-spun: A bank is a third person, which only complicates the whole process of transferring or receiving money between people. With this, a significant commission is charged for their services. Everyone understands that this is what banks do to themselves a certain profit. But with the advent of crypto currency, such commercial companies lose their value in the financial world. Who needs these inconveniences when transferring funds? Why complicate your life, pay extra money and wait for a long translation time, if you can just solve everything with the help of digital currencies ...
Such a state of affairs is understood by all the banking organizations of the world, which were so much in demand in the past. Now their need is quietly going to second place, as more people are beginning to understand what crypto currency is and what advantages it gives. And this is a big problem for banks, as this will make them incapable of further existence, due to their gradual exclusion from the financial system. In connection with such financial freedom from the banking system, the leaders of various commercial organizations will continue to tell people through various sources of paid media that the crypto currency is a bubble that will soon burst. That all this is a deception and a conspiracy. However, already now there is a lot of evidence that the top guiding echelons of banks continue to unnoticedly buy up the crypto currency and keep it in their caches. This is done, of course, in order to increase investment. And this is worth thinking about ... Therefore, I am quite confident that the banks in the near future will leave the stage!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125688 Sumbur May 16, 2018 Merited post: I have a few nuances that, although they do not say that the market will behave the same way as last year, but surely will prompt what will happen to it after a while:
-The impact of bitcoin grows, which indicates a gradual realization by the market that the leading crypto currency is reliably protected.
-Rally 2015-2017 was historic, but not unique in this ecosystem: from the end of 2011 to April 2013, the price of bitcoin increased 100-fold, and six months later-another ten.
- Approval of bitcoin-ETF, even with a delay, could be a significant event, as it will make the asset extremely affordable for retail investors. After the launch of the first ETF for gold in 2004, the price of precious metal increased by 350%. The 2017 rally also caused a wave of corporate activity around bitcoin, and the promises of well-known banks, brokers, payment services and security service providers attract investors' attention using a value strategy.
What also says that in the near future is unlikely to be a big increase in crypto currency!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2125783 Successv May 16, 2018 Merited post: Perhaps no one will argue with the fact that Bitcoin is just a digital currency. Initially, this coin was created for payments and a limited range of tasks. Proceeding from this, the scope of using crypto currency is limited. Nevertheless, the prospects of development as a currency, a means of payment from this less did not. A highly specialized asset will cope with the original purpose more effectively than a universal tool. Judge for yourself, a professional camera will always make better pictures in comparison with a smartphone. However, this analogy can also be used in the opposite direction, for example, you can not call from the camera, respectively, and Bitcoin is deprived of additional functions.
The Ethereum system is a platform that is based on Block Chain technology, in other words it is not a digital currency in the traditional sense. For example, using this system you can work with Smart contracts, and this platform can be used to further implement certain projects in a decentralized environment. As a result, the Efirium is not interested in simply because it is a reliable means of payment. Of course, this has a positive effect on the investment attractiveness of the asset. However, the principle of "bearish service" can always work. Therefore, no one can answer with a maximum accuracy to the question that Betcoin or Etherium is more profitable. In fact, each of these systems has certain strengths and weaknesses, so there is no unambiguous inference and can not be.
If you look through foserfox's recently merited posts you'll find others that are suspicious and need looking into and probably many more copy and pastes he's merited. I wonder if he's selling merit along with a post he gives them to be merited or is just dishing it out to more of his alts that were left undiscovered? |
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I've completely run out of merit points. How are the rich going to get richer now? I would post ten examples of excellent posts that I think deserve to be merited that didn't receive any, but how about this exemplary one below? I'd say it's probably easily ten posts in one so it should do and not a single merit received as of writing  . C'mon guys. Don't let merit ruin lives. I'm glad you did this and it's going to help a lot but I still don't think it goes far enough. Why can't we remove signatures from Juniors as well and require ten merit to get one when they become a Member? Those who have farmed dozens or hundreds/thousands of accounts will just buy or trade the merit or purchase a Copper Membership because when they're making thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars from farming bounties/campaigns this is just a minor inconvenience. Making them get ten merit per account is significantly more difficult and expensive and abuse would also be easier to spot. A lot of one merit abuses will just fly under the radar. One reason that I was hesitant to do this before is that there are an awful lot of newbie restrictions, and I don't want the forum to be unwelcoming to good newbies. I'll think about tying some of those to activity instead of rank in the future.
I don't think it is unwelcoming and good posters won't have much issue in getting ten merit. A truly great post or two could get you that alone. I understand the reasoning that we shouldn't be putting restrictions from actually posting, but removing their signatures or requiring more merit doesn't effect that at all. The issue here is one merit still isn't difficult to get and I'm not sure how much it will dent the people who are doing the most damage here. I think the huge farmers will just cough up money for the Copper Membership or trade merit between themselves if one is all they need. Is there a place that lists all new Copper Memberships purchased? That would be helpful to keep an eye on as if we see hundreds of users purchasing it abuses will still be easy to spot. Yeah, I understand that it feels a little bit too harsh to implement this new system. However, it helps to contain the current spam problem. One merit is harsh? It's not harsh enough. It effects a person's ability to post here zero and the worst of abusers here will still just find a way around it. I think you should consider the ability to buy merit for yourself. You can already effectively do this by way of purchasing a copper membership. Based upon the fact that well under 1% of active users have received a single merit, there need to be additional ways for people who do not post garbage to rank up.
Further, if people are buying access to additional features such as signatures, they have an added incentive to not post crap, and the cost will serve as a deterrent to those who have ranked up from posting complete garbage.
I would be against buying merit or ranks, but as I have mentioned before buying the benefits of ranks via things like Silver/Gold Memberships should still be considered and would be beneficial in numerous ways. I think you should consider the ability to buy merit for yourself. You can already effectively do this by way of purchasing a copper membership. Based upon the fact that well under 1% of active users have received a single merit, there need to be additional ways for people who do not post garbage to rank up.
Buying merit or normal ranks is like buying yourself a bunch of trophies to put on your shelf. It's stupid, and it's an insult to everyone who achieved it legitimately. I can't see ever doing that. I don't particularly mind letting people pay for some of the privileges of these things, such as with copper membership, but it should be a parallel system. As I just said above, I agree, but why not extend this logic to people buying accounts as well? If that's ok then I think we should add the additional Silver and Gold Memberships as there are numerous benefits to this and it significantly reduces the account selling/scamming market. If people can buy accounts here then let them buy the benefits of them from the forum instead which is win win. It's going to happen anyway so why not make it safer for everyone and drive down the demand for farmed and hacked accounts in the process? Copper membership is good. Now, if you want to participate in signature campaigns, you can either pay the $10-$20 for copper membership or accomplish the herculean task of making one good post. I don't think that it's unreasonable in either case. I think it's too cheap though. I think we should make Copper Membership as just some sort of basic whitelisting function ie you can post images and post a little faster, but not allow a signature. Then if you want a signature buy the more expensive Silver and Gold Memberships. If you're earning tens of thousands here then paying $10-20 isn't much even over your dozens to hundreds/thousands of accounts, especially if you can make that back with a few posts on a signature campaign. If people are making good posts but are still struggling to get merit, then that's a problem with the merit system and should be fixed on my end. Demanding money in order to bypass a broken system would be really bad. But AFAICT the merit system actually is reasonably effective at identifying good posters.
Adding more merit sources to meet demand over time will fix this, but you can still either earn merit and ranks the natural way or cough up money to bypass that. You'd still be a zero-merit/activity whatever member so it's not like they're buying ranks but I think buying a bigger signature should be an option, especially if we allow users to do this by buying accounts anyway which is such a shady black market already where scamming is rife. Buy a Copper Membership or get the merit. It is difficult to receive a Merit from members who have merit. If I say that there are many people selling their merit, do you believe it? .There are people who post hundreds of content but they do not receive any merit.
If you're making hundreds of posts and never get merit then the issue probably lies with you so take a look at your posts and those of others who are getting merit and try work out where you're going wrong. not all jr.member spamming, but why are we generalized to a newbie, even though many of them are late trying to make good posts, but it's hard now we get merit, are they the ones we fear if many get merit they will feel Compared to the bounty program, I feel that those of us above are worried that if many of us get merit, the amount of prizes from the bounty will decrease because the bounty cursed the pool system, therefore many members here are trading merit and accounts, is this fair, many of them 1 person who has more than 1 account, this is not fair
Boo-hoo. Nobody said all Juniors are spamming. If you can't earn a merit then either buy a Copper Membership or go away. not all jr.member spamming, but why are we generalized to a newbie, even though many of them are late trying to make good posts, but it's hard now we get merit, are they the ones we fear if many get merit they will feel Compared to the bounty program, I feel that those of us above are worried that if many of us get merit, the amount of prizes from the bounty will decrease because the bounty cursed the pool system, therefore many members here are trading merit and accounts, is this fair, many of them 1 person who has more than 1 account, this is not fair
I quite agree with you, most merit holders don't want to share because they don't want more people competing with them on signature bounty campaigns Oh do shut up. We don't want people like you who have ruined the forum by copy and pasting content over god knows how many accounts: The EOS and TRON platforms are shaping up to be great platforms in the crypto space, EOS (EOS) and TRON (TRX) are great blockchain projects that could go on to deliver great results both for their community of investors and the public. EOS seeks to transform and decentralize the cryptocurrency trading industry by providing a platform that makes it easy and cheaper to trade and exchange crypto assets, for me EOS looks a better proposition for now
https://stocksgazette.com/2018/05/01/eos-eos-vs-tron-trx-which-one-should-you-add-to-your-portfolio/The reason why altcoins exist is because the original bitcoin software was and is open source, so people made their own varients of bitcoin. Whether or not we need all these altcoins is irrelevent.
https://www.reddit.com/r/altcoin/comments/6gtd10/why_do_we_need_altcoins/Focus on a consistent process and Growing size If you can become consistent in your trading process in terms of executing your edge and your money management, and you have a positive trade expectancy sizing properly is essential for growing your trades. Some traders trade too big too quickly, which causes inconsistency and usually a large setback.
http://www.staceyburketrading.com/5-ways-improve-trading/YOU are the reason for why we need these restrictions and why it should be more than just one merit because I'm sure someone would have given one of your copy and pasted posts merit eventually. I want to add! Cryptocurrency is made for decentralization and the forum should be the same, and with your new rules you make your forum centralized!!!
Oh, it's very decentralized. It uses the VWYF algorithm ( now with added blockchain) to ensure complete decentralization. How it works is very simple: if you don't like it, go make your own forum.  Admins!!! What you have done will lead to the fact that now massively will sell merit and who will not share it! Or you are interested in it themselves( to sell merit)? What you have done I believe is illegal! Think again, while the community has not found another forum!!!
Illegal? LOL. Theymos, please look into all this whiners. I'm sure these will be the idiots with hundreds to thousands of accounts. That means, that i need to buy merit, just to rank up?
I been doing a lot of post, but never had a merit.
What should i do?
Make good posts  profit PMSL. Someone create one to petition theymos to either require more merit or remove signatures altogether. In fact, lets remove signatures completely until you get an insane amount of merit (500+). Then you really will have to sing for your supper. You people are pure cancer. Respected bitcointalk admistratior and moderators how about the member (Jr member) who turns into jr member before 1 September remains Jr member but who create account after 1 September required at least 150 or 200 activity point to promote into Jr member this is just my suggestion please think about it.
How convenient, Mr I Registered Before 1st of September.  I think this is good, bring fairness to the active members, and join in for a long time. I only regret that I joined Bitcointalk too late.  It's never too late to get merit. I totally understand the move because of so many shitposts that people place to make the signature requirements. Only why not just change the option to wear a signature to members+. So with 10 merits or more?
I am a BountyHunter, trying to build up a little portfolio of cryptocurrencies because I truly believe in the blockchain. Since I have no money to invest and missed the 2017 hype, Bountyhunting is the only way for me to do so.
Because of the demotion to Newbie, I cannot enter most bounty campaigns anymore and seriously reduces my ability to earn some crypto in a fair way.
Another thing I noticed in the merit system: almost all merit goes to people who already have merit. It's like in society, where rich people, like to be around rich people and help each other getting richer. If a newbie (or poor guy) comes up with something he/she often does not get the credit for it.
I would have given you a merit until you started with the rich get richer bollocks. Make good posts and you'll get merit. Nobody gives a fuck here how rich you are. All we care about is cleaning up the forum from the shitposting scum that have ruined it for everyone. Make posts with effort and people will give you merit. merit=salvation. |
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This user was reported as a bot with this post: I'm very excited about the amazing potential of this project. The most promising project of the year in my opinion. So great to see more and more mature and professional teams entering the market. It will definitely help not-so-tech-savvy people get involved with the crypto space.
But with no source, so googled that post and found the copy here: I'm very excited about the amazing potential of this project. The most promising project of the year in my opinion. So great to see more and more mature and professional teams entering the market. It will definitely help not-so-tech-savvy people get involved with the crypto space.
Arching_wild has a fair bit of merit, and noticed he's sent one merit on three separate occasions to kalehon: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1762484 kalehon January 27, 2018 Who is registered the same day as him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1762105 Arching_wild January 27, 2018 I'm sure there's more to be found here. |
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